Pascal, China's Belt and Road initiative is an example of an instrument that makes peace profitable.

@nurainiarsad7395

21 күн бұрын

good point. and the clue is how unreasonably hated it is by the MIC, and the refusal of western countries who are taken over by it, to just join the same network and benefit as well from the peace dividend.

The solution, Pascal, is to do like President Putin did for the Russian Federation. He renationalized four sectors of the Russian economy: energy (gas, oil, and electricity), banking, transportation, and weapons manufacturing. The rest of the for-profit economy is still for-profit, but the activities of these four sectors are no longer for-profit. Making war non-profit is easier than making peace-making profitable. It can be done immediately, and it eliminates profit as a motive for going to war.

@dianal3542

21 күн бұрын

It's still for profit but profit goes directly to Putin and his friends

@47nrubreddew

19 күн бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍

There is a peace industrial complex. That is the Belt and Road Initiative.

@ianweniger6620

19 күн бұрын

Sick burn, comrade

Perhaps one way would be to make wars less profitable. How? by every means that would lead to results, which varies from one country to another country even within the western countries. For example lawsuits, creation of legal obstacles, voting for the political opponents, revealing the corruptions involved to the public and in the public sphere and finally something that is most important but to the best of my knowledge have not been tried before; make a public list of the names of the main profiteers or even main suspects of being the main profiteers, in order to limit their activities and movements or at least make it riskier, more expensive and less convenient. It would be like list of criminals along side their many pictures and their brief history as it is being used by the interpol but instead as a public domain. This episode, although only a monolog, was much better than the last two.

Thank you for your important food for thought. Art could become a peace business opposing the arms industry. Making art requires a peaceful world to enjoy it. That is why I am currently working on a project where peacemaker artists can earn more money and become independent from state fundings.

@andreasferenczi7613

22 күн бұрын

A lot of great pieces of art have been made during war-time.

The problem is that the people paying the cost of the military, the taxpayers, don't get to exercise choice about whether the supposed benefits they are receiving are worth the cost they are paying. That is one of the most prominent features of capitalism.

Introduce profit and you introduce conflict. The question is an oxymoron.

@andreasferenczi7613

22 күн бұрын

I disagree vehemently. Profit is surplus production. The absence of that creates conflict. If someone produces enough apples to be able to sell me some (and make a profit), then we are all quite happy, but once he can't sell those apples anymore, that is when I will start thinking about taking it away from him.

@inotmark

22 күн бұрын

@@andreasferenczi7613 A very superficial analysis. How is he going to make a profit if he doesn't a) remove the land for anyone else's usage and b) keep supplies low enough to make a bigger profit? Profit is a virus that eats out the system from the inside out and ultimately destroys any possibility of peace without exploitation and degradation. Given human's biological proclivity to overpopulate, resources will always run low and the rest is quite literally history.

@redcapetimetraveler7688

22 күн бұрын

@@andreasferenczi7613 yeah however companies addicted to profit are not always fairplay : they use spying, corrupting officials or journalists, blackmailing governments, taxes'optimizations,manufacturing consent, ... this is why there is a forever debate between ultraliberals who love to weaken states and nationalists who always put the state first. Profits without fair regulations lead to conflicts. To answer Pascal, can peacefull industrial leadership move/nudge/lobby politicians and bureaucrats to promote peacefull projects more than to sell weapons and wars to their constituants ? Yes, if we can finance and publizise political carreers with those peacefull industries. Industries and politicians enjoy so much a good public relations strategy : so a first idea of business could be a communication agency to make good behaviours famous and bankable, and to promote a label of fair progressive projects.😇🤑🤗 obviously such agency could also make itself though on crimes: it should denonce bad behaviours : so be a mix between wikileaks and charity adds agency ... strange ? Doable ?

@dinnerwithfranklin2451

22 күн бұрын

Seems to me that profit is not the source of conflict. I'd say the concept of scarcity is more likely. edit: of course profit depends on the belief in scarcity so my suggestion is not totally opposed to yours.

@jacobpast5437

22 күн бұрын

The unrestricted pursuit of profit erodes everything. The very profit itself is used to erode everything for the sake of acquisition of more profit. Everything is eroded legally and illegaly: politicians and politics (the lawmakers) and with that the laws, the media (to control public opinion), and with that culture and democracy, and thus society. The pursuit of profit is an addiction, and those addicted to the pursuit of profit - as any hard drug addict - will stop at nothing to obtain what they are addicted to: profit.

Pascal you 're a bright light! Thank you...will share....and, where were you walking today? Cool community.

I think that the military industrial complex should be bought off and retooled for the infrastructure development complex..

Love your channel, Pascal. The root problem is human are evolved to be militant against the others, it is a survival instinct. In a free market economy, money will always go to funding wars. So no hope, or at least, unlikely before we recover from the autoimmune disease, as your recent guest pointed out.

@charmaine8512

22 күн бұрын

I see all the indoctrinating in SCHOOLS! In India we went to school and were innocent and never looked down on even the dumbest child in class. Here the radicals are the teachers and no school disciplines or teaches kids anything concrete. And tge sad thing is the kids themselves are from broken families so how can a child grow up enjoying life. They are bitter from young. Peace has to start at the grassroots. Profiteering is why kids are tampered with

MICIMATT Military Industrial Congressional Intelligence Media Academic Think Tank...Ray McGovern coined this.

This is an excellent question.

I thought about this extensively, building basically a non-government associated diplomatic agency that basically facilitates communications and deals between governments. The problem is how to establish trust and not be subverted by intelligence agencies. How to ensure that employees from all corners of the world are not compromised and that information given by governments will not be leaked or sold off. Another question is that you would basically be under the thumb of which ever country you are based out of. Its very difficult to work out

@cautiouscommenter

22 күн бұрын

I like where this is going. I can also imagine that the headquarters could be located in some place that is hard to invade - which may also make it hard to defend. The concern about governments could be mitigated through some of the same mechanisms used by the war profiteers. E.g. Imagine a single entity registered in Antigua owned jointly by trusts registered in Japan, South Africa, Uruguay and Delaware. International offices would all be registered as local corporations all owned by the overseas entity in Antigua. In return for regulatory protection, we pay staff fairly, ensure to pay our taxes, and keep their pensions in the respective local economies. Essentially, like the creation of a food forest, our presence benefits the local economy enough that local legislators fight on our behalf.

A great challenge!

Love you Pascal

One major problem is, that capitalists interested in peace are negatively affected, when there os war where they operate, but the capitalists interested in war are positively affected even when the war happens on the other side of the globe. This is why there is almost no resistance from pro-peace economy against the pro-war economy, as long as they keep that war far enough away.

@marcobsomer5574

22 күн бұрын

Et vous en concluez quoi ? La guerre doit être "portée" chez ceux qui la fabriquent. Un pays rasé met beaucoup de temps pour fabriquer une arme. Donc ....

There's no money in peace, as Smedley Butler said "War is aracket, it always has been" and I add "and always will be."

@Gunni1972

21 күн бұрын

Just the amount of Technology transfer, New Patents and standards that arise from it makes Trillions look like pocket change." A few lives here and there for that? Why not? Won't be mine though". (Financial analyst, or Advisor)

Excellent Pascal, thanks

Weapons are very reasonable and intellectual answers and easily defended by emotions and fear tactics. Peace is emotionally so much more complex, and very difficult to define in this era of mass hysteria. Thank you so much for your work.

@nkosipwl

22 күн бұрын

Si vis pacem, para bellum. That is true with Russia

Very possible!

Haliburton, Monsanto, Blackrock, Vanguard already does it... they get profitable contract to rebuild a country after the wars, ie: when peace is back.

@charmaine8512

22 күн бұрын

They love re building after destruction

@blauetoile

21 күн бұрын

Ah.. divide and rule... hm, do such entities do really work for 'rebuilding' after destruction or is it just their next way to divide, drain and destroy? Sorry, Pascal but you are too young. System at place is too corrupted already to be able to improve it from inside. Outsiders are being silenced everyday. It's not an open system anymore. All is centralized, filtered, stored and modified and rewritten according to the plan of the most powerful. Regardless who they are at a given date. it's a spiral. Of power.

By chance, today I came across Glenn Diesen’s interview with Lena Petrova where he talked about a diversified multipolar world that encourages economic cooperation over a hegemonic desire to hold onto power through conflict creation. It might be a good place to start in answering your question. With such a mind set in place, profitable non-agressive business models might naturally develop.

Really really good point! The marketing of war industries is kind of creating an enemy. Would the marketing of peace be to create areas to value terroir, tourism, wellness, nature preservation, training and education centers, market places, shopping halls with local products, PDO, PGI etc, ... only a quick thought but government protection is key

(Green) Energy Grid, Pascal. Continent wide.

As many comments point out, project finance in "emerging markets" seems like the most natural industrial ally. However, there are some big questions regarding human rights, environmental rights, and rule of law in the developing nations that would need to be answered. These problems should be addressed in tandem (ie at the same time) as green finance and developing world project finance is mainstreamed. Many on the left despise the World Bank and IMF, but they are the leaders in this field, followed by the regional multilateral development banks. They need to align their programmes closer to UN development programmes, and be pulled away from US foreign policy interests. Unfortunately the US is the biggest funder of everyone, followed by the EU--in the development sphere, however, there is some difference in what the EU will fund; namely, its funding is more aligned with UN goals than US development funding. With UN development and development bank agendas more closely aligned, they can more effectively engage the for-profit, private sector world of finance. Other comments mention Belt and Road, but this is a State-run strategy of development finance, much like USAID. The only real difference is that Belt and Road focuses on economic rights, not on civil and political rights (USAID involved in promoting American-style democracy and anticorruption, essentially assisting in DoS/intelligence political ops and anti-narcotics programming; Belt and Road focused on promoting Chinese market penetration in favour of State-owned, -controlled or -influenced industry and supply chain in all other industrial sectors). What we need is truly private finance, and of course Western capital is much larger and more free. Changing certain laws or legal traditions could recruit other industries. If national laws could somehow restrict force majeure clauses in insurance and financial contracts with regard to private property interests that would be the first victims of war (eg dams and powerplants in conflict-prone regions), it might recruit those industries. Unfortunately, that particular legal tradition is very well-established, going back centuries in the civil and common law traditions, so it is unlikely to change. The commercial airline, tourism, and international education industries are too small to nearly stand up to the defense industrial complex, though they are also obvious allies. Really one of the biggest problems is that there are few industries whose market cap is as large as the defense industry. The cost of a handful of F-16s (what Ukraine is supposed to receive this summer...) might be equivalent to the annual market cap of an entire, lesser industry in certain countries or regions. So perhaps we should start digging from the other side of the tunnel, that is, establish legal limits on defense contracting prices (perhaps through competition law?). This of course, is also very difficult at the national level. But perhaps certain anti-interventionist members of the new-right or fiscal conservatives could be recruited on an ideological level--the Marjorie Taylor Greenes of the world. The other option is constant lawfare from both private and sub-national plaintiffs and prosecutors, like what happened with the US tobacco industry in the 90s and which led to a permanent decline in the industry despite a strong lobby. However, this leads back to the NGO problem; it would take serious legal muscle and expenditure on the part of only a few, under-funded specialized NGOs--who incidentally would need to avoid the sort of legal pitfalls the environmental movement in the US landed itself in in the early 2000s with the Rehnquist and Roberts Courts.

Making it expensive for the warmongers, financially and criminally. The UN and other global organisations should not only be funded by the government but also by the private sector. I want to invest in the UN to do what I want it to do and give the UN teeth.

@marcobsomer5574

22 күн бұрын

Et avoir comme pour l'OMS, un bil débile qui fausse toute les décisions du peuple ? Non, merci.

The majority of a normal economy is embedded in peaceful development and construction. Even in a war economy, only about half of the economy can contribute to the MIC.

Even if an idea is found that is profitable, the few would lose from it and that now control the narrative, will do everything to prevent it from getting known or gaining traction. So an idea must always come with an additional layer of smartness to remove control of the narrative first. But for it, I am.

The fact that you talk about Mother Teresa as an angel shows that you have not read Christopher Hitchens' utter destruction of her myth, including the poverty part.

@soniavadnjal7553

22 күн бұрын

Don't be silly. No-one with money would end up looking as she did. Did you ever see her face? A picture of it? As for "Christopher Hitchens", what are his credentials? Or better still, what is HIS myth?

@marcobsomer5574

22 күн бұрын

oui, mais ce n'est pas la dernière histoire qui est la meilleure. Les écrivains, historiens, youtuber.... sont aussi des commerçants soucieux de leurs comptes.

Armaments are even more profitable than war, but eventually profit requires the conquest of market share by extrapolitical means. Capitalists don't just accept their losses cheerfully like good sports.

This already exists, it's called "Economy" Thing is that the MIC is a combination of profitability, power-seeking, psychopathy and narcissism etc. So the only way to prioritize "Civil-Economy" over arms-economy would be a UN-ruled and enforced ban of private weapons manufacturing or at least holding shares, making profit at all and forbidding any moneyflow back to the civil economy in any form, so to take away the incentives. This would be possible without issues once the general assembly would make such decisions with around 70% of the votes.

What the Vatican is Saying from 1300 years... What we are saying from Always... without even the need of being Primary Recipient of the Earnings... ...Still we Expected a Return... ...Still Waiting... Still.

Hi Pascal, Great point, suggest to look into tax system and how peace NGO or organization to setup a legitimate tax right off, means if you help and pay these NGO or organization then you can use it as tax right off . Cheers

Peace is the continuation of war by other means

indeed...!

Thank you for this talk and walk! Perhaps you are not aware how effective your words come across, interwoven in the live backdrop you broadcast this talk; sirens and crosswalks and traffic and all...

Dear Elon it is a good question thanks for your service to the world.

Well. Apparently we need it because of the Great Depression.

Capitalism IS war liberally and economically.. Socialism is peaceful coexistence.

@johnsmith1474

22 күн бұрын

Ideological oversimplification.

Yes, but it will always lose out to military.

"Valhalla is a warehouse" K. Kraus

Contact the Schiller institute

I think preventing profiteering from death and destruction is a more promising path to prosperity. I recently saw where a massive scheming billionaire in Asia (don't think it was China) was convicted and sentenced to death. Wouldn't happen in a capitalist society.

@whensonzhou4174

21 күн бұрын

Vietnam, the billionaire commit a fraud that account for 6% of the GDP, well deserved. Prosperity for all and profit motive doesn't work well together, as profit motive alone drive irrational selfish and shortsight behavior as we all see capitalism quickly fall into. Just like good road that enable commerce in the first place wilk never show up in the balance sheet, peace dividen and externality are rarely be quantified as profit. You need organized social entity to evaluate and deal with externality as a whole, aka government in our case. Funny enough, US oil company dont often profit well from all the war that MIC instigate due to the huge instability and negative resentment. MIC's destructive spree of profiteering is actually harmful to world wide economy and even to their oil barren friend, yet both continue to push war.

One of the more fundamental fallacies at the heart of the capitalist system is that technological progress equals social progress. This has been hugely ideologically damaging. This is the idea that the military industrial complex has harnessed. think of how many times we came across someone saying 'so many civilian inventions and devices originated with military research.' This is largely because the military is the biggest funder, directly and indirectly, of techincal institutions, to whom it outsources its research requirments and society (student fees and government tax payer money) pays for it; a nice trick. This is the vicious economic circle, one that is highly wasteful, environmentally damaging, and progressively ideologically corrosive, that animates our increasingly disonant world, a world where 'the present' has disappeared and has been co-opted to serve an imagined future that is in essence an unliveable one. So far, its real negative effects have been masked by continuous growth, but this at an end. Jo Biden said that 'if there was no Israel, then we would have had to invent it.' This is the give away statement that exposes the warped ideological core of the western psyche. In truth and in western religious eschatological mythology, the idea of Israel is at least a thousand years older than the state of Israel. These two elements, the myth of military/war driven social progress through technological progress, and the myth of Israel; Israel as a fulfilment of some insane apocalyptic prophetic timeline, are interlinked and feed off of each other. Both at core have over the last two hundred years morphed into a deeply racist, warped world view. Before we begin to define a solution, we need to define the problem correctly.

The "For peace" Industry is not possible, as Industry needs some sort of Exploitation, to thrive. By itself, that is not possible, as the law of competition favours diminishing returns. What you are talking about is a working Social system, where nobody has to be envious about the others "returns or gains". But hey, that is a question of one's personal greed and preferences. And GREED has ALL the advertisement, because it pays well for promises. "Peace" is a Personal experience too. There is no STANDARD to it. Therefore it can't be proclaimed unless a situation gets better.Which it never does. Because the "good Times" are usually those when one had no Responsibilities, (the thing, we usually see Politicians flee from). That collapses as soon as we have to pay Taxes, and Inequality becomes a factor in Greed and Envy. MY Opinion: Peace can only be achieved by unobstructed honesty. You don't have to love eachother, but at least have the guts to tell eachother what you want or don't want. The whole "secrecy program" only splits people. Keeps them busy with "Hide and seek games", instead of enjoying and using the achievements.

I do not understand. Any industry that makes more money in peace time than war time can just move to the next poorest country for cheap labour. So you need to "bribe" them to stay in the first place, which is done via state subsidies and the like. And after the war, the company will make more money rebuilding the bombed country. The problem seems to be the mind set in Europe. How many years have been China and Japan in a war over their history and how many years have been England and France at war? Maybe the solution is not to hyperfocus on one ideology (capitalism in this case) but to diversify and acknowledge that many ideologies have a time and a place to be usefull.

....where's this filmed ??? where are you, I was wondering.

@honorhonor3352

22 күн бұрын

Looks like Thailand

@anndroid33

21 күн бұрын

Japan

Hmm 🤔 What is the opposite of “weapon” that is tangible?

Peace insurance?)

I wonder if Israel just wanted the natural gas, knew what the attack was coming, and just wrote off the people attacked by Hamas? Human hearts need to be changed in order for peace to come, we need to value love more than money, a long time ago a Judean carpenter and later a group of his close friends spoke about love and transformation human spirit, the tradition continued throughout the centuries and when people truly followed “the way” people often flourished, I hear the teaching is still alive but is in need revival.

You just described how socialists are destined to fail in a capitalists built system.

Peace industry isn't profitable and shouldn't be for-profit. Profit is the problem, not a solution.

they would like to make CHAOS, so why? it make feed them. who are they? they are not humans. LOL

Don't work too hard Pascal, China already build-it! its called the BRI. Study it closely then start educating the wold about it ! Please :)

Are you in China? Why it feels as if someone is following you?

Food fo thought for brain storming to create a common alternative world system.