I love that a real bow maker gives honest reviews on cheap bows.

Dear God, the first segment was BEAUTIFULLY spoken.

I was reading an archery manual from the middle ages, it said that when you are shopping for a bow it is a good idea to pull it back to your drawlength in the shop before you buy it because it was very common for new bows to break. It sounds like inferior products have been around for over 600 years.

I recently became interested in getting back into archery after a many year hiatus. I first saw one of your videos about a month ago and have watched them all. They are both educational and highly entertaining. Congratulations on all you have accomplished in a relatively short time. Keep up the phenomenal work you do.

You helped me find a Christmas gift for my son, upgrading his kid's fiberglass short bow. Enjoy your royalty. Spend it wisely!

I started with a Black Hunter recurve but I bought the bow on its own and a better quality arm guard, tab, bow stringer and so on. I've been very happy with this, I now have more expensive, better quality bows yet I still enjoy my low poundage BH recurve

The 30 lb version of this bow was delivered to my house two days ago. LOL I came to the same conclusion you did sir. I couldn't buy the materials to build a bow for less than I could buy this one for. I still hope to build one some day, but I've wanted to get into archery for a while, and this looks to be a good way. Thanks!

Due to past serious shoulder injuries I have had to sell ALL of my bow equipment. I have been wanting to get back into archery but with no luck finding a decent low poundage bow that I can draw properly. Because of you and your video of this particular bow, it the 30 pound draw, I will be looking into that one. I know that if I were to purchase it, my children would enjoy it as well. Please keep up your AWESOME videos as they are extremely informative and helpful.

@richartist40

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Sounds like you are shooting with a high shoulder ..Try 30 lbs and keep your shoulders well down and scapulas parallell on your full draw ..

About 2 years ago I found your video on how to make a longbow for 15 bucks, and since I was wanting to make a bow, I did it. Of course, that bow broke because I messed it up, but it sent me down a road that caused me to start selling my own bows out of PVC pipe. I've sold around 35 now, and have made probably somewhere around 75. This channel helped get me into archery, which is something that I love. Thanks!

I being a person that only shoots recurves with metal risers & only American made recurves bows with American made limbs , I have seen people take a cheap Chinese bow & tweak it just a bit & shoot it as well as hunt with it just fine , I’ve seen them last 2 minutes & I’ve seen them last for well over 25 years . It’s just about how well of a bow you want , doing your research on the bow as well as the company that makes them , the up keep of the bow & knowing all the secrets on how to make any bow work well & how much you want to spend on any bow .

Thanks to your videos I just started archery this summer after trying it a few times younger, I bought the cheapest 30-35lbs recurve I found. Very second day I took the handle off and made a custom one from birch, been hitting target from 10 meters now pretty much 90% of the time. Im thinking about upgrading and your videos are very educational! Maybe some day Ill be good enough to invest in your bow 😂

I love Shatterproof. You guys are a great inspiration and I love all of your videos. Amazon should be paying you guys more for your reviews haha.

Your videos are funny as well as informative. Thank you

I am a Bowyer myself not much experience with fibreglass bows.. but I own 2 left hand of those recurves #30-50# as a thumb draw shooting experiment. I was impressed with my products recieved.

Great customer service at shatter proof!!! I bought the 50lb xp and brought it into the shop, Kazden made me a new string on the spot. Would love the 30 lb for my son!!

When I got back into archery a couple years ago after a 15 year lay off I saw so many ads about bows like you tested and a lot worse. I think your video will help new archers looking to buy a bow as far as do your homework before you buy

I just started doing archery and would absolutely love to get a bow. I would love if I won the giveaway.

This man really seems to know his stuff. I am glad to stumble across his channel. We should support our USA manufacturers.

Nice Sponsor!... The two minute section, just hilarious!!! 🤣😂😁

I got the black hunter takedown longbow last winter. 35lbs and came out perfect. I love every bit of it.

@vaazig

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I got it during the first lockdown and it's a really nice bow. It shoots really smooth and the arrows come out fast.

I think Cramer has the aptitude to be a great teacher. Love to watch the videos you produce. Would love to buy you a coffee and just chill with ya one day at the shop. Don't stop. Keep shooting. I didn't know you sold bows 🤔.

Manufacturing cost: bigger than labor is the cost of the plant. Overseas doesn't have business capital tax, real-estate tax, lease usage surcharges, add-on fees to the utility bills, worker's comp insurance, liability insurance, employer paid retirement tax, and lots of others. It costs about 1/10th as much to operate a factory there compared to here.

I’ll take a cheap bow just to have fun with, rather than complaining about where and whom it’s from. Great video.

Hi guys! I have been "infected" my wife with archery. We both use my 50# bow. She would like to get into archery but 50# is too much for her. At the moment I don't even have 59$ to get her this one. But the 30# one would be great for her. Thank you for the great video. Keep up the good work!

Free bow, don’t mind if I do

I'm an amateur bowyer myself, of @ 30 years. I watch all the DIY bowyer videos. Yours is in my top 10. Presently I'm experimenting with asiatic thumb draw style. Hint

Been hunting with a amazon bow for 2 years! still holds up great

I like your honesty, and being a US Army Vet that is a thumbs up

I would pass the bow on to my brother in law if I receive it Y’all are special guys Thank your hearts

my wife and son started 3 years ago with a 45 p Samick Sage $100, and two Core Argery bows 30 p each. $69 each..'All take down bows' . We shoot almost every day and they held up fantastically. With the same string, still. I change them in a month or so. We are happy. We gradually went from cheap arrows to real carbon arrows and we shoot well. (Not the Lars Andersen stuff though)😁

I'm late finding y'all. But. I'm loving your material, your content, your attitude, and your presentation. Y'all are brilliant. Keep it up. Watch for me, lurking around. Thank you again.

this is a great video for those of that cant afford more expensive bows or want to get the kids a bow on the cheap

I have this bow and I think it's the best bow there is for the price bracket.!!❤

Cheers mate. Glad you take the time to be as clear and concise for us laymen.

I bought some of Shatterproof's string wax and a fast flight string, and they are nice.

All your bow reviews are fun and interesting. The vids showing your processes always draw my interest. Me, I have a 30lb fiberglass bow that I don't shoot much, too many other interests. Well, at least I'm in the drawing!

Thanks for breaking down the economics of mass production!

I appreciate that you weren't downing on or dissing the bow itself, even thought its being mass produced it serves the purpose... its not a bow you would take deer hunting... it's a beginners target practice bow. The marketing is very misleading and kind of gross though, that is what sucks.

Have a compound currently, nothing special, just enjoy the challenge. I’m a bit of a “tinkerer”, figuring out how things work and making slight modifications to improve performance. A traditional longbow or recurve has had my attention for a bit.

Love the video. I’m going through your tillering course now, which is by far the best instruction I’ve seen yet. Can’t wait to get started.

Just from watching your videos I’ve been wanting to start bow hunting

A great and honest review and you achieved all of your goals once again! In always leave your videos With a smile so that's once again!

Thank you for another review. These help me understand what I want out of a bow I can afford

I just built my first bow out of Juniper and it shoots well thanks for getting me interested in building bows

I love watching your vids, you are a refreshing grounded take in the world of KZread

I'm always curious about these cheap bows on Amazon. I appreciate your analysis.

Like seeing the growth of you business. A long way from your garage. Presentation skills are better as well.

I love this format of content! Such a huge fan of yours man and am very excited to see what lies in store for you and your business!! All the love and support, a fan from Canada

Hey guys, another great video. I ended up with the Blackhunter longbow, have since gotten recurve limbs for it up through 45#. That is a fine shooting platform for beginners like me. After that I got one of your bows, another great shooting bow which I love, it’s at 35#. Another bow I bought, before watching your negative review, was the $86 TopArchery 56” TD recurve at 40#, just received 45# limbs for it yesterday. I know you reviewed this bow as it came, but this is a great bow with minimal input. First I replace the continuous loop string with one of yours, my flipper rest did not fit but I had already ordered a plunger and flipper set up from Lancaster, it was cheap. I then installed some beaver fur string silencers and after some shooting have come to the determination that it’s my favorite shooting bow, but hey, I just started down this archery rabbit hole. Thanks again for great videos!

Love the humor, always informative just all round greatness. I hope one day sooner than later I'll be shooting one of yours. Keep it up I'm a fan.

Your reviews are always spot on. You should do more.

That literally made me laugh a little when the Black Hunter longbow suddenly burst into flames and he dropped it.

Excellent description as to how the system works. Great review.

60lb version is $100 now on Amazon for the Black Hunter.

Hi Kramer, Your videos are so fun, and I have found good information. Thank you!

Thanks for driving the price up right before Christmas!!! Hahaha!

I'm over in the UK, love your videos, fun and educational. Convinced me to try making my own bow for the first time. Got my fingers crossed it pans out how I want.😁...if not, I'll try till it does! Keep up the amazing work dude.

I just bought a "Genuine" Left Handed Samik Sage 62in 60lb & apart from a very little finish (tiny bubbles) on about 1/4 inch on the riser it is perfect, it draws 61.6lb & it has a lovely release & I paid £60 for this delivered with a spare string & that Stringer you showed, why so cheap? the guy had a load of LeftHanded risers & offered all the limbs at the same money hoping that people would only buy the lighter ones, it's a really nice bow for the money, I also recently purchased a 70lb(67lb in reality) Compound Bow for £90, this came with almost everything including 12 arrows of pretty fair quality, it's only real drawback is its relatively heavy at around 5lbs but for the money, it is pretty good, I dropped it out of a tree about 9ft+ on to hard ground & it was fine. ?There are some bargains out there, but there is also a huge amount of Shite, even some at BigMoney, the price doesn't always reflect the quality. An excellent post, thank you.

I gotta say, effectively getting a Black Hunter bow for roughly half-price doesn't sound like the worst deal I've heard of. By the time I went to the link in your description, no 30-lb bows were shown as an option. The 50-lb bow was the only one at the low low price, but it was already up to $67.50. Still a deal, but a heavier weight than I'd really like. The price on the Deerseeker 30-lb (least expensive option) is up to $97.90. For that price, the Obert Black Hunter is actually only about $4 more and I'd probably just get the Black Hunter. We'll see what post-Christmas prices do.

@caseysmith544

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There is a low price one piece bow that is at 30, 2 models one that is for right eye dominant only that is the SinoArt Sparrow and no name, then the other is a bow that is the lowest priced bow that also comes in hunting weights on Amazon, the oldest review that Kramer did for a bow. Both are one piece bows.

I enjoyed your video review, I plan on checking Amazon online today to buy one!

At 10 minute note on the doubling of price. The seller must have pulled the bow or sold out. Your 'The bow' link above goes to a list of various bows on Amazon UK.

I bought a bow and arrows for $46 and its not bad in fact its pretty good but its not that strong but accurate Kramer can you try to make a micmac bow its an extremely strong bow and has a very uniq design it has been used for long distances cuz of its strength its gonna be an interesting experience

Greatly appreciate the in depth review of these products, as well as love the content. Keep up the great work and happy holidays!

So amazon has this great vendor option where you can choose a product find a vendor set a price and label as you want where amazom online dose all the work and ship direct from maufacturer so you done ever have to even handle tour product making it even cheeper.

Another issue with these is they are very seldom available in left hand. Ive purchased a couple over the years when a lefty came up just to have a throw around bow. After dumping around 20 arrows thru one of them, the handle delammed just in front of the shelf above where your thumb rests and completely split on the following shot. I didnt know they used bamboo for the handles so I guess you learn something new everyday... great vid...😉

Great info!

Huge fan of your videos Kramer. You got me into bow making a couple years ago. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.

i think the price on amazon being all over the place is because different models are being sold by different sellers, some with more markup than others

Love the 3 sections, and 2 folds. Awesome!

Re strings coming with a bow as opposed to picking which string you want to buy with the bow. The string on two bows I've purchased the serving was centred. I.E. there was no top or bottom to the string and no matter how I strung the bow the server ended exactly where I would install the top nocking point. In other words, using the Mediterranean release, my top finger is on the bow string the server doesn't go that far. I can't find the GLASSHARRIER Creative XP for sale online at this time, 24Nov22 (about a day after Kramer posted this review). Eventually found it sold out, though more expensive. It sounds like a perfect beginners or guest bow. Loved your review. I knew the Black Hunter is a bow whose makers supply the same bow build for others to rebrand as their own bow, Black Hunter • Glass Harrier • Deer Seeker. Delighted, you share some of the other brands of the same bow. GUANGE • Sharrow Lol! To name but a few more.

@2DGraphicDesign

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Honestly, I have yet to find an archer who isn't pleased with their Black Hunter or Deer Seeker version. The inconsistent poundage may get a mention, almost a running good-humoured joke. Did you get the poundage you requested? Three sections, Twofold, lol!

Love your videos used to shoot a recurve yrs ago and watching you has made me want to get back into it.

Awesome channel. Found on my recommended and can't stop watching.

Checked out the link and the bow is going for $211 CAD. Will stick with what I have right now and work on making my own. :)

Great video, and was definitely thinking they were on the cheap end because those poundages weren't moving. Would love to try one of them!

I realize it's a year after this video originally posted but I was curious what this bow was selling for or if it was even still available. The link provided now takes you to an Amazon listing for an arrow rest. The bow isn't even offered as an out of stock option.

Junxing is the main company making this model as well as a reflex deflex model and there is an all metal riser with same name and limbs fit both versions. There is also a flat top connection point model that the limbs fit the original design but cut out some of the sight window.

I like the black hunter I got 55# limbs and at my draw length under 28" my scale is 52#. I am not crazy about the endless loop string either. Neutral tiller is ok for me I shoot 3 under . It fits my target of a decent hunting bow. Mainly whitetail and hogs. Also pretty accurate shooting blunts for squriles.

$59 bow looks like you can learn a lot with it. Would love to shoot. :)

One of these would be ideal for my grandson, great video again guys 🏹

absolutely like these videos, kinda like podcast in my ears while i work

I really like the Black Hunter bow. It isn't a trad bow. The manufacturer is like most others, making something for a living. It's not a scam and it's not junk but it certainly isn't the quality of your equipment. A raw beginner isn't going to buy your expensive quality equipment. So these bows are actually a positive for you. It's the red-tape salespersons in this world who piss me off, not people who add value to society.

I tach archery to middle school and high school students. Either one of these bows would be great for them to use!

Or option 4, they bought 1000 bows at a 30% discount bringing their price down to $35 and sell it for $60, then ding the buyer for an inflated shipping cost and walk away with about $37.24 per bow.

i have an extensive collection of handmade (some i built some I bought from other bowyers) and not hand made like bear etc.. recurve , long bows and ELB my first bow was a samick 50lb it is still my main hunting bow , it is inexpensive , accurate , smooth and yes durable and don't mind dragging in the woods and abusing it and this bow in the review sounds perfect for a beginner they seem very well built and bamboo is a very durable and snappy material i might end up getting one lol

Hay brother ( I’m in on the bow win - give away ) I do have to say they are really great bows, you truly do have to say they are hard to beat. God Bless brother.

I LOVED the booklet section ..... i do a lot of buying parts on ebay and "Some" of the claims of the manufacturer OMG lol great way of doing this was really funny well done guys

Kramer, First off, I am an avid viewer of your videos. For a while, u was leaning into another youtuberer who has appeared on a certain TV show that rhymes with "a bone" and has a book available about bow making. His stuff is knowledgeable but honestly not nearly as down to earth and realatable as yourself. So, you qin my award for best bow making vidwo maker. I just wanted to tell you (and your staff) that, secondly, when ever I am in your area we have to meet at your shop. I have to get to know you because there are so many subtle differences between your experience and my own that not only do I know I can learn a lot from you but I think we will get on well and have a good time talking shoo. Probably sounds weird but I don't mean it to be. I just have a gut feeling that you and I have something worth sharing. Hopefully in the future... Keep the content flowing .

I can’t wait to make a bow with my kiddo!

Really interessting video on how this (could) works ... Thanks :)

I've been watching for a few years and I keep fighting with myself with each bow to get as a beginner. Black hunter recurve is where I'm at but this video will help me figure out if something cheaper is better . Or maybe you could do a cheap bow review but with small upgrades etc.

Great video. A cheap bow like this (when on sale) would definitely be a nice starter

Oh yer and $49.00 US or $216 AU. full kit arrows, arm band, carrying case ect. 8-12-22

I lived in China for 9 years 9 months and 6 days. No one really works 996 in a factory. The younger office workers will sometimes do it though.

So here's my experience.. I received one of these branded BH bow but the tiller is quite off. It's a negative tiller with 7.8" lower and 7.2" upper. It's supposed to be a 50lb bow but I think my upper limb is actually for a 55lb version.. I've loved shooting but I've noticed my arrows nosediving at launch and it doesn't seem to matter where the nock point is.. I'll see if maybe they could send me the correct upper limb, shim the upper limb, or swap around the upper and lower..

The cheap stringers that come with some bows (I have a PSE that came with an identical stringer) can also be more dangerous when used on another bow. So, the PSE I bought was a 25# model (bad shoulder, it's easy & comfortable to draw. Don't judge, haha), and a friend of mine gifted me a 50# PSE. I was able to sting it a few times with the cheap, stock stringer, until one day . . .The loop came off the smaller rubber cap, and the bow snapped up as it relaxed very, very suddenly. The only saving grace was that I had only just started stringing when it happened, so no harm, but I did promptly interwebz searched for another stringer that is much better, and less than $10 (w/ shipping, it was about $15 or so). So, yea. Cheap stringers are just that: cheap. And could possibly cause injury if you're not careful & attentive.

Great review, I bought the same two bows over the last few weeks.

Me and my daughter are making 2 bows now bc of your vids

i can get the same bow hear in australia $150aud for just the bow and $250aud for the kit, thanks for the revue kramer

As a maker of custom knives, I can understand the sales pitch they use. A lot of the knives I see on Amazon talk about all of the superior quality of their product. Pretty laughable. Great bow for a beginner kid I would guess, especially the 30lb.

Hey Kramer, thank you for the information! I am interested in (hopefully winning) one of these. I am STILL working on the home-built bow you gave me advice on a while back as well.