The most abused thumbnail picture of all time🤣 so many compilations have that also censored, glad to learn more about it

@timf3099

Жыл бұрын

I've seen sensationalized KZread videos with titles like: "Driver Sliced in HALF!!!"

@harrycop7944

Жыл бұрын

​@@timf3099 lmao sameeee

@nsx_montana

Жыл бұрын

@@timf3099 yep😅

@TattvaRajput24

Жыл бұрын

For real dude! Never knew about this incident and was curious, and this youtuber made it.

@princesssolace4337

Жыл бұрын

@@timf3099 U might give a magician there a new trick. Slicing 2 cars and drivers from different teams and let them race around the track.

The story is very straight forward. I was working for the Maranello team at that time. There is about 8 months between the start of the design of a car and the first time it hits the road. The chassis folks produced a design but unfortunately, we did not have an autoclave large enough to fit it, and no time to find an alternative. After some head scratching, a 2 pieces arrangement that satisfied no one was chosen. The safety of the driver (only just one we cared about) was a major concern. A specialist at the time told me about the challenges with the bonding, and the way the chassis was split to go through the crash test. The expectation was it would be borderline but ok for the season. I am pretty certain that my recollection is correct when saying that he also expressed concern about how the glue would hold over time, since no long duration data was available. For the following season, 12 months away, the autoclave situation was of course fixed and so no more dodgy tricks had to be used again.

@Dermaa

Жыл бұрын

big if true

@kellymcteer5076

Жыл бұрын

I fully believe this. Failure of a bonded joint, likely a very old bonded joint. The pictures back this up showing a very clean separation of the composite halves and bonding material left on at least the one half we can see. Oxidation and moisture can compromise adhesives with time... The designers didn't predict this use case and where only likely expecting the bond to make it the 8 month season.

@inevespace

Жыл бұрын

The more I read comments here, more I think that they put minimal efforts to do research on this channel. Only driving technique videos worth attention.

@whyyoulidl

Жыл бұрын

@@kellymcteer5076 They should have at least used some duct tape!

@espenjohansen8074

Жыл бұрын

@@inevespace what is happening here is that he gets attention from people who know, more than random internet posts do. Random workers and spectators doesn't just sit down on the internet and write about occurances. But when they come over situations where they can contribute, they do.

Somewhat nostalgic to see the name Kroymans again. I grew up in Hilversum back in the '90, not too far from the Kroymans showroom. One time me and a friend wanted to go checking out those exotic cars on a summer day. But feeling dissatisfied with only looking at them, we gathered our courage and decided to ask the clerk or we could sit in those cars. It was a quiet summer day, there were no customers in the showroom. So the clerk decided to be kind to us kids (we were teens, 15 years old) and allow us to choose 1 car to sit in. This is where I felt in love with the Ferrari 550 Maranello. It was the first Ferrari I sat in. Good memories, better than the memories of having Christijan Albers 🤮as a classmate in that same year. Total jerk. Didn't liked him back then, still don't like him now.

@siccodegroot8710

Жыл бұрын

Heb een soort zelfde ervaring gehad. Woon zelf een half uur rijden van het Munsterhuis. Kwam daar als kind al om te kijken en nu nog steeds regelmatig te vinden, voel me daar als kind in de snoepwinkel!

@plusquare

Жыл бұрын

What's so bad about albers all be does is talk

@NexuJin

Жыл бұрын

@@plusquare He is what we call here in Netherland "kakker".

@Drrolfski

Жыл бұрын

Dude, that's an amazing story and I agree on Christian Albers, by far the most annoying F1 commentator on Viaplay.

@gijsvandeweerd509

Жыл бұрын

Man amazing story I had something very simmilar a while ago. Just amazing to see al those magnificent cars so close to home

I’m the person that wrote the comment you quoted from the Alfabb. The inside wall at turn 6 was closer to the track in 2004. It was moved back via excavation later on, which is what you see in the in car you show.

I was there when it happened, sitiing on a hillside with a friend. It was a demonstration race during the Monterey Historics weekend. I'm not certain of the year but it may have been 2004. There were about a dozen Corsa Clienti F1 cars going around the track. I didn't see the crash itself. As you said it was a warmup lap so were weren't playing close attention, but we were shocked when we saw it broken in half because as you said they weren't going too fast, and being that it was one of the newest cars there you would expect it to be the safest. By the way, if there is one weekend and one trasck to go to where you want to see the most amazing and beautiful cars, go to Laguna Seca during the historic race weekend.

@KGI_KlikoNL

Жыл бұрын

Yeah 2004, it is on the Chrysler in the video

@TLGAuto

11 ай бұрын

Yes, 2004 was the Ferrari year for the Historics. I was standing off T5 and the crash happened between 6 and the corkscrew. I didn't hear the crash ... I heard the silence afterward which took a second to register. There's this loud ass F1 Ferrari going around and then ... nothing. Pretty crazy. He wasn't going all that slowly, either. He was moving along at a pretty good clip for cold tires, but that T6 bump probably shook him loose and the front of the car got wiped off by the wall. Lucky he didn't end up like Zanardi.

@filanfyretracker

5 ай бұрын

was that a hot day? just wondering as California in the summer can get really warm and the sun beating down on that car. Makes me wonder if the glue got softened up.

@gtv6chuck

5 ай бұрын

@@filanfyretracker It wasn't all that hot there. When you go to Laguna for the vintage races it's always cloudy in the morning, then the clouds back up to the ocean and it gets to be sunny and 75-80F.

@jajajajajajajajaja867

Ай бұрын

​@@filanfyretrackerIt never really gets that hot in Monterey county. Especially right on the coast where Laguna Seca is located.

My dad has a car company from the Netherlands. Kroymans still owes him 15000 EU. They tried to finance everything by getting loans with multiple banks.

@craigratio

3 ай бұрын

Sadly I feel it’s almost impossible to get to the stage of wealth Kroymans was at back then without being a corrupt bastard.

I was there that day. I was just downhill from Turn 6 where this happened, heading up to take some photos. I heard the crash, and made my way the rest of the way up to the inside of the corner. I got a couple of shots of him sitting in his car, but they were from further away and I think not as good an angle as the ones you show here. It was pretty chilling.

Look at the car's nose, at 4:07... Wheels and suspensions are still attached, and apparently intact, the nose is just scratched, and the only thing broken off seems the front wing. Without any context, i would have guessed the car broke in two without even crashing.

@PompeyMatt17

3 ай бұрын

left wheel is turned inward so I reckon the suspension is snapped...

@eins2001

2 ай бұрын

There was a construction flaw iirc

As a few others have noted, this was not a race. Ferrari was the featured marque at the Monterey Historics in 2004. They had several Corse Clienti cars circulating at lunch. I was working on the Course Marshall crew that day. We had to take a short lunch so that they could reopen the track. All of a sudden, we got a "stand up" order and then were dispatched to help with the cleanup. I was on the track as the SCCA crew were loading the "car" on the rollback. We put one of the rear wheels in the back of our Ford crew cab truck. My sons were in attendance and got some footage of the cleanup. You can see me on the track in a few shots. When we went back to the garage with the rollback, I carried the rear wheel, with tire still mounted, and some suspension bits into the garage for the crew. That was all so light I could carry it out at arm's length! As soon as I saw the opening still in this video, I knew it was that event!

@vasman4034

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this wonderful insight!

@karlInSanDiego

6 ай бұрын

I distinctly remembering them covering the car up with a tarp on the flatbed. If you weren't close to the accident, you never saw that the Ferrari had split in half. We witnessed it later when this photo showed up. Seeing the tarp on a car on the flatbed made you think there was a body or some kind of bloody carnage. It was scary. Turns out instead, I think, that Ferrari or the Scuderia loyalists(?) were highly embarrassed during the celebration of Ferrari that their chassis split like this, and were hoping to limit photos. It was a wise move, but didn't stop the photos from getting out.

Thanks for this, I've seen the picture a bunch of times and always wondered about the origins of it, cause it's so weird that the tub would split like that. Also, I hope you do get to race at Laguna Seca, it's such a beautiful track.

The story I heard is that because of his tall height, the car had to be modified for his height. So the nose was dismantled and when put back on, it had a weak point. When Fritz crashed, that weak point must've just failed and the whole nose came off after the impact. But that's the story I've heard. Edit: ok, it's in the video

@Drrolfski

Жыл бұрын

When you look at the breaking point on the photo then this is probably the most plausible explanation.

@hkr667

Жыл бұрын

I heard that story too. Because that story is literally told in this video. What a coincidence huh?

@TK-ps6mg

Жыл бұрын

@@hkr667 classic case of the comment before video is over.

@guaya999

Жыл бұрын

Thats literally the story in the video...

@UpTheAnte1987

Жыл бұрын

I've not finished reading your comment yet but the story I heard is that because the client was larger than the original drivers he had trouble fitting in the car, so Ferrari made some alterations. That involved removing the the nose section and extending it. When he crashed the point they'd cut broke off along the cut lines. Well that's the version I got told anyway.

Including your research/how you found the car/driver/accident was a great choice. It's rare to see that included. I'm sure it helps others in how they research things as well.

@justlucky8254

Жыл бұрын

"Research" about anything historical generally relies on those same questions and more. I really hope that wasn't as impressive to you or others as you made it out to be.

Stan Fox had a crash at the 1995 Indy 500 that left his legs exposed like that. I was 14 and the memory of the car coming to rest with his legs hanging out is very vivid in my mind. Amazingly his legs were fine but he suffered severe head injuries.

@jamescampbell390

Жыл бұрын

That was my first Indy 500 too and I loved growing up and going to all 4 weeks of may back then with my dad happy memories

@BiggieTrismegistus

Жыл бұрын

@@jamescampbell390 I went to my first Indycar race with my dad that year at Michigan International Speedway and it was something we did yearly until they stopped coming to the track. To this day I go to my parents's house and watch as many F1 and IndyCar races with my old man as I can.

Did you actually contact Frits Kroymans himself? Because it would have been really nice to get his personal account on the accident. Fun fact: Since 2020 Frits Kroymans is back to being a Ferrari dealer again. He is not without controversy though. His company has been accused of fraud when it went into administration in 2009 and last month it came out that he had made tons of money during covid, selling medical supplies to the Dutch government through one of his other companies. Which probably earned him the cash to buy back the shares of his Ferrari dealership, which still went on under the Kroymans name all these years. Edit: I found an interview of him (in Dutch) on that crash, but unfortunately he didn't go into details: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qo17kpqvldWWaZM.html

@schlempfunkle

Жыл бұрын

Lol’d, cause he went so publicly bankrupt….personal accounts

@TrevorDennis100

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if the drivers have to sign an NDA that prevents them giving details about the cars? That would fit with Ferrari keeping possession of the cars between races and what appears to be complete control of the arrangement.

@cbrunnem6102

Жыл бұрын

oh no, someone made money during covid. without knowing what margin he had, people are pissed at nothing

@joevarga5982

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch the video? Do you think that maybe he contacted Frits Kroymans and didn't even mention it?

@Drrolfski

Жыл бұрын

@@joevarga5982 That was exactly my question. I couldn't tell from their video if they did contact Frits. That's why I asked.

I was in the paddock and saw this car come in on the flatbed while a pack of frantic Italians attempted to keep it covered up. As you mentioned it was the first lap so everyone was wondering what happened. I saw this picture the following Monday.

@bitemyshite

6 ай бұрын

yea it's ironic it being the first lap.. if he was a racing driver. Being that he's just some average Joe with a fat wallet, it's almost to be expected that he crashes one of the pointiest F1 cars Ferrari ever made, on the warm up lap. If I was in the paddock I'd be doing a sweepstake for who stacks it first

The story that you can't keep your car simply isn't true. You're allowed to have it at your home, but almost all choose to keep it at the factory for ease of maintenance. This story started with the first FXX cars and it wasn't true then, and still isn't true today... The current V6 cars aren't being sold due to sheer cost of keeping them going. So the 2 year thing doesn't exist anymore, either (this was only valid for new cars).

I like watching this channel for serious Scott. But F-bomb dropping, competitive, snarky Scott is so much fun to watch on Overdrive. ESPECIALLY when he sticks it to Callum and Will.

If only our friend Alex Zanardi was this lucky

@Rutherford_Inchworm_III

Ай бұрын

My first thought as well. Staggering how close he came to being another Zanardi. Scary as hell to see his legs out on the track like that.

Loving the channel and the research you do to uncover great story's with really well explained content. Many thanks.

@ElementsMMA

20 күн бұрын

It's a great channel, but this video is utter rubbish.

Great video, I used to work for Ferrari West Europe at that time, I had many an interaction with Fritz Kroymans, who was one of our Dutch Ferrari dealers at the time. I remember distinctly Fritz was invited to Maranello following this crash, to choose another F1 car, and he chose an F2001 to replace it. His collection was subsequently sold when he hit financial troubles back in 08, yet he's still one of two Ferrari dealers in the Netherlands. Great guy!

@GuzziHeroV50

Жыл бұрын

Good to hear that Ferrari sorted him and had his back. To be fair I'd expect nothing less, they respect their clients.

@KGI_KlikoNL

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he got/picked one from Rubens Barichello

@DriftJesus

3 ай бұрын

FritS. I don't think there ever have been more than two Ferrari dealers in NL and kroymans certainly was the worst.

@yourproblemthesolution

3 ай бұрын

@@DriftJesus Indeed, it FritS. And exactly, there was and still is Kroymans and Munsterhuis, two dealers.

@DriftJesus

3 ай бұрын

@@yourproblemthesolution kroymans was horrible to deal with, never again.

Reminds me of the Indy 500 crash with Stan Fox, where his legs were literally hanging out of the car while in mid-air.

@BiggieTrismegistus

Жыл бұрын

Heh. I made a comment about his crash at almost the exact same time. The image of his car sliding to a stop with his legs hanging out seared itself into my 14 year old brain. It freaked me out but thankfully didn't scare me off racing completely.

@crazydrummer181

Жыл бұрын

Danny Ongais as well at Indy.

Dude was so fortunate to walk away. I wonder if perhaps the bonding agent weakens over time? Cool topic and video :)

@fix0the0spade

Жыл бұрын

Once a carbon monocoque (or any monocoque really) is built you aren't supposed to cut extra holes in it. Cutting it will have permanently weakened it and created a stress riser along the seams when they put it back together. You can compensate for it by reinforcing along the joint, but in this case it looks like the amount of reinforcement needed was underestimated. It's a good demonstration of why F1 teams design the chassis around the tallest driver and work back from there.

@markmcgoveran6811

Жыл бұрын

@@fix0the0spade yeah that carbon fiber is generally engineered down to the nubs so there's not any extra any break and you need to replace the whole unit.

The thumbnail remind me of alex zanardi's horrible crash, it just horror still can't forget it a literal human flesh flying every where

@18000rpm

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking.

@easternwoods4378

Жыл бұрын

Also Danny Ongais 1981 Indy

imagine spending $10 million in a car, waiting 2 years to drive it, and breaking it in half in the warmup lap :D

Just imagine spending 10s of millions to drive a car and you end up being provided with a death trap. I'm guessing he didn't sue Ferrari but wonder if he had a good case to do so.

@nitelast

Жыл бұрын

But all f1 cars are deathtraps to begin with. Less so with more recent cars, but especially in the early 90s and before it was a lot worse.

The 2 year wait to get the newest car isn't necessarily about secrets being revealed, as you said ferrari holds the car and just let's the buyer drive it essentially. The bigger reason for the wait is likely the FIA test prohibition on cars younger than 2 years.

@bitemyshite

6 ай бұрын

no

Saying “well to do” sounds less judgey than “rich”

@chinmaysardesai623

Жыл бұрын

He was chanelling Bezos

oh god, this comment is before I watched the video, and the first thing that comes to mind, the very first thing is Alex Zinardi's sickening crash when he lost his legs, literally gagging at the thought as I write this, the driver is very very lucky indeed to have both legs intact... just shows how fast it can change in motorsports.

This was like one of the most obscure F1 crash picture I have ever seen and I was wondering for a long time (like maybe 10years) who was that person and how did he get in that situation. Thanks for this explaination

Great video. I was actually at that race as part of the Concours d'Elegance that year in which Ferrari was the featured marque. The race happened on the other side of the track out of view so this is interesting info even some twenty years later.

Love your videos, always! Non-racing related but I was hoping you could start uploading in 4k resolution if possible. It would tremendously improve the picture quality of your videos.

Really cool video Scott, & very interesting, & cool to see that you have used some clips of my old YT vids 😎😎

yooo i always had questions about this and thought it was photoshopped, thank for sharing man

T6 is so rewarding when you get it right. I've seen a few who have lost it at T6 and a few close calls myself. laguna's getting a bit of a facelift right now, see how it changes (or not).

Yes, it really happened. I was there that weekend. No, the photos aren’t “photoshopped”. A former employer of mine was the guy who purchased Kroymans collection. (Tom Price)

At the time, there was speculation that that was the chassis in which Michael had his crash in. It was then restored and sold as part of the Corsa Clienti program.

@davidgavin7280

Жыл бұрын

Not a chance, I saw the tub after the crash- the suspension arm was punched through the tub on the right hand side, there was quite a big rip in the tub, it would have been cheaper to build a new tub than fix that one.

@bartomiejczerwinski5897

11 ай бұрын

​@@davidgavin7280do You have any photos or extra info about the damage to monocoque? The photos of car on flatbed truck shows what looks like a split tub, with the front separated, but more to the front that in Kroymans case.

Scott, I grew up in the Monterey area, and have attended numerous events at Laguna Seca. Even been lucky enough to drive several cars there: Honda Civic, Dodge Neon and Viper, Porsche 911, and even a Harley Davidson. You will have a BLAST!!!

Ah hey, I grew up within earshot of Laguna Seca. I've spent nights in the campsite surrounding the track and I've done photography for events in the past too. The Kink and The Corkscrew is both just one of those turns where you post up and you know you'll see something insane. And the scale of the elevation change in The Corkscrew is absolutely not possible to grasp from videos. In real life, the change is something like 3 stories of height, it's absolutely massive. You feel small standing downhill and looking up at this drop. And if you've never seen the 1996 Alex Zanardi clip, literally nicknamed "The Pass", you absolutely NEED to seek it out. Weird crashes aside, this is the single coolest move in motorsport. I love Laguna Seca so much, it's my hometown pride and I'm glad that motorsports fans the world over can love it too.

Congrats on 1M Subscribers! 🥳

man, good job on researching all of that!

there is lot of creativity to illustrate video with such relevant and rare footage. huge amount of work there.

I remember a crash from the Indy 500 in the early 90’s where there was a similar result. As I recall it was the start lap and the front of the car was ripped off and the slow-mo it looks like the driver is running on the wall, but was not seriously injured.

This scene reminds me of the accident Alex Zanardi had at the Eurospeedway Lausitz in Germany. 😳🤦‍♂️

Having participated in the Skip Barber Racing School at Laguna Seca (only minutes from my home), I can say that the corkscrew is unlike anything else I have experienced. You have got to come out to California when one of the car clubs of the area have the track for the day. I'm pretty sure they will give you a spot. Then you can make an episode about it and write-off most of the expenses. *wink*

@geometerfpv2804

Жыл бұрын

He is an ex-F1 driver...I'm pretty sure he already knows what the corkscrew is like 😉

@kerc

8 ай бұрын

@@geometerfpv2804 He literally mentions in the video that he has not raced at Laguna Seca...

thanks for the video.. i was always wondering what was the history on this

Scott, I'm lucky enough that Laguna Seca is my home track. About 1 hr away. I've tracked my cars many times there and it's literally a rollercoaster ride every lap! It's not a very technical track, but there are little nuances that will make or break your lap. Turn 6 is very tricky with that slight dip at the apex. You can gain a tenth or two by getting back on the throttle fractions sooner, but if you get it wrong, you're in the gravel. You need to come out here for Monterey Car Week in August!

@oldfrend

7 ай бұрын

i always liked hitting the turn 6 dip in racing games cuz if you hit it at the right angle and speed it acts as banking that you can use to rocket out of the corner. it always made sense to me but i saw plenty of dudes that couldn't figure it out and flew off into the outside wall.

It's mind blowing to see an F1 car split in half. The fact that it was not racing at the time is testimony of just how lucky the driver was. Thanks for sharing.

I’ve been to Laguna many times as a driver and spectator. The photos look like they are from T6, and that is a notorious place for over steer that puts you into the inside wall. The pavement is covered in skid marks.

I've had a number of track days at Laguna Seca and I can confirm that turn 6 can bite you. We used to call that inside wall on the left "The United Nations Wall" because it bore the paint from cars of every type of car from around the world.

@michaelallison2085

9 ай бұрын

Worked as a mechanic/instructor at Skippy for years there...most single-car crash damage was from turn 6...people lifting/braking after turn-in. When track maintenance moved the wall back (I forget which year that was)...it eased our work load a bit 😉

I was there at Laguna Seca when this happened. Fritz didn't crash, when he turned into the apex at turn 6, the car literally broke in 1/2. This was not a RACE, it was during lunch time demonstration laps so there were limited marshals out on the turns. He was lucky that about 3-4 cars that were behind him, didn't contact him. My wife and I were having our lunch at the start/finish area, and I just happened to be on the land line for the corners. The F&C worker at turn 6 called the "alert" and that dispatched the emergency vehicles. I remember the communicator say that the car broke in "2" but he was at turn 6. I couldn't figure out, how a broken car could get from turn 2 to turn 6. He had to clarify his response a couple of times, and once he said that the broke in 1/2, that we all realized what had happened. Needless to say, this was a car, that was Schumacher's car what was "glued" back together after a crash, and was supposed to have a tag on it saying "static display only" or something to that effect. Well, somehow that tag was removed, and we know the rest. The funny thing, was that the car was put on a roll back type tow truck, a tarp was placed over it, and it was whisked out of the track in a heartbeat.

@GianniBuroni

Жыл бұрын

He spun into the inside wall, which was closer to the track. It was at low speed as it was some demo laps with a few Ferrari F1 cars. When the car hit, the nose snapped off. Turn 6 was my favorite place to watch the Historics. I was there with my friend at turn 6 and saw it.

@davidgavin7280

Жыл бұрын

🐂💩, it wasn't the Silverstone car, that was a right off.

@TLGAuto

11 ай бұрын

@@GianniBuroni Crazy. I was in T5 and didn't see what happened. I only heard the silence afterward...

Amazing analysis

Laguna Seca is one of my local tracks and I can tell you the corkscrew is like a two storie drop! Very hair raising! Great video and hope you get to drive it one day but bring a barf bag. 😆

Mate! You have 1 mil subscribers! congratulations!

There were a few members from the Corvetteforum at turn 5 that day and may have more information or photos for you. I just took a look at the track and I think it came back by us uncovered on a flatbed. There is access off the track at turn 5 and would have been the fastest way off the track.

*_This is remarkable... feet and legs are most prone to injury in racing wrecks._*

Driver69 back with another great f1 video

I have researched this a few years ago and never got any mentions of a glued car, although seems realistic now. But few forums from diferent users and periods of time mentioned a specific chassis that was crashed in testing and never got to race and it was supposed to be this car. It even gave a chassis number but I guess it will take me some time because I then wasted around a week reading many and many pages of forums, opinions and in person stories. This picture was used as a thumbnail for many "f1 car crashes" and I didn't even belive it was true at that time. But it kinda makes sense rn that it was a glued car because the braking point is way too clean to be a fractured carbon fiber that has the lines oriented from the front to back and would definitely look like a mess if ruptured. Thanks for the video

Ferrari in a nutshell: If you own a Ferrari, you don't own a Ferrari.

Great research

Great to hear the story, I remember that picture.

*WHEN I WAS A KID* in the 80's the garage next to me an a JPS Lotus F1 car and an Elf F1 car sat in the back compound with weeds growing through them... The son of the owner had bought them and hill climbed them a bit and lost interest - this is how the world has changed - this was "Woodkirk Garage" in West Yorkshire, not a Ferrari dealership LOL

@ryanp6138

Жыл бұрын

Mental. There is a Senna JPS Lotus among many other rare F1 and LMP cars stored at Normanton, West Yorkshire at the United Autosport factory. Zak Brown owns them I believe

@piccalillipit9211

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanp6138 I never knew that - I dong live in the UK now... In those days olf F1 cars were almost an inconvenience, they cut up one of the Brabham fan cars cos they didnt have space for it. I dont think these met a sticky end, Im sure they are in a collection somewhere. We used to climb over the concrete wall and play with them, but they didn't have seats in them. I was always fascinated for the tyre surface had very clearly been totally liquid, I never understood this as a little kid.

Laguna seca is a fun track, I cant wait to do another track day there. Mate you would love it. Hell I will let you drive my GT86 if you head this way for a track day

I was there looking down from fence on outside of Turn 6 when this happened (fenced area looks down from loop at end of campground). There was no race as others noted, it was lunchtime parade laps not pre-race warmup. Turn 6 comes after a good straight and speed is carried through turn to get you up hill to top of Corkscrew. As I recall, he oversteered at apex, spun and besides clipping barrier he appeared to bounce as well on the transition from track, rumble strip, and pavement edge before sand trap/runoff. It was quite jarring to see driver sitting there with legs sticking out from severed cowl. I heard subsequently the story about lengthened cockpit…driver and Ferrari would know.

That was a bizzare & intense crash even doe i don't remember anything about this is still a interesting & detailed video.

The video of the car had different adverts, so not the video on the day of the crash. Great story, lucky to walk away.

Between "a pinch of salt" and the thumbnail, idk what the best part of this video is 😂

I’ve always thought it was a fake image. I was still not convinced it was true until photos of marshals and mechanics around the wreck.

Makes my gut pucker, remembering Alex Zanardi's accident.

I've seen this before, thank you for providing the background story,

My dad knows him were also from the area. He also has crashed several Ferraris on the public roads. Even once let his grandson drive it and also crashed it. It was even in the local news. They like speed and crashing for some reasons.

@dannyfar7989

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It's fun, many people enjoy that in their Sims: when they don't care about the Bills. The Kroymans don't seem to care for these Bills IRL. Maybe they need reasons to change cars more often.

Honourable mention for Mika Salo is in order.😀

I had always thought that failure was due to the car being a show car, not an actual FIA-approved race-used machine. Interesting to learn it was actually a major modification failure. Cant believe Ferrari screwed that up that bad.

Johnny Herbert had a similar crash in F3000 in 1988, Brands Hatch. And not forget Martin Donnelly's crash in 1990, Jerez. Although carbon fiber was the standard, safe tubs were still learning in progress at that time.

@jamesford3549

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Not very similar

@davidgavin7280

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The 88 F3000 tubs were renowned for being shite. There were a lot of big crashes that year with tubs getting ripped apart. I actually saw Johnny's crash with my own eyes and to be fair the car too the first hit quite well, unfortunately for Johnny there were other hits afterwards. The 89 & 90 Lotus cars looked like death traps (in my opinion) and unfortunately Martin Donelly found out the hard way

Leguna Seca is awesome, did it on a motorbike, loved it 😄

I was at the track with a group of Corvette owners parked on the outside of turn 5 when this happened and remember it well.

I’ve been lucky enough to drive Laguna Seca in my 914-6 on a Monday with the local Porsche club after the historic’s in Monterey. It will be a lot of fun if you ever get to do it.

i did my first track day at laguna seca in 2004 i think and they mentioned to watch out for the turn 6 dip and mentioned this crash. The dip was abrupt enough to unsettle my mazda protege on my first lap. They repaved the track soon after for moto gp and took most of the dip out and that was noticeable when i went back a couple years later

Thank you for this video! I saw this photo many years ago on an F1 forum, and at that time nobody could identify who this was or when/where this happened. So naturally we assumed that it was fake especially because of how clean the break looked we thought someone cut the nose off to stage this photo. I I’m sure with some hours of sleuthing we could’ve figured it out but what can I say at the time I was like 16/17 and it was the mid 2000s lol Thank you for figuring this out and making a brilliant informative video like always!

@TheBMW2000

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Well, his name was on the car :-) Silly thing from me to say though, but for Dutch people in automotive industry, it's easy as Kroymans is a household name.

6:27 that's interesting seeing a cut out of them sitting in the car.

My friend who works as a ferrari f1 engineer since 1980 and does the cliante people. He has said that these cars are late examples of cars which do this with this type of accident, he says take a look at all other accidents like this in the 70s 80s and 90s f1 cars with drivers having broken legs/feet etc.

Apparently it was a 1993 car, according to what I just read on ferrari chat website. Accident was turn 6, hit the inside tyre barrier, and it was at the 2004 monterey historic on Saturday

Love how everyone was there yet all have different stories 😂

"Not everyone is F1 driver small." **Shows clip of George Russell**

maybe worth a hint for you - on similar cars: F92A from Jean Alesi -> Freddy Plangger, Germany, a former early days speed skiing record setter.

The good thing about this was he was travelling at a fairly slow speed. Mind boggles to think what would have happened at 150mph and the joint failed.

@Driver61 what has never been explained to me is: what the hell does aero grip feel like? most of us would like to know how you can just trust it. and where the mechanical grip dominates the tyre behaviour and changes to aero.

Could also be a rejected part by QC or an R&D part not used for racing but good enough for weekend racers.

Thanks man your are the legend of story

My guess is that it may have been the sama chasis MSC had the crash on. The monocoque was not restored to FIA standards, plus what has been pointed out about the customization to fit the VIP in such narrow space… probably getting rid of the front structure of the safety cage. Luckily for him, it was in the warm up lap and barely kissed the wall, otherwise it would have been much worse than just the few millions in repairs Kroyman’s creditors granted him unintentionally

@benn8793

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It is not the Silverstone chassis. Ross Brawn has denied that. The man was simply too big for an f1 car, so it had to be modified.

Scott- Laguna Seca is my home track and it is great, but the corkscrew is vastly overrated. Looks great in pics/vids though for sure.

So that Kroymans!! I work in front of this garage! It still exists in Hilversum (NL) and it’s filled with Aston Martin and Ferrari

More like we all know the drivers were Schumacher, Irvine, and Salo.

I have vague memories of another open-wheeler racing car crash where you saw the driver's legs sticking out. This was in the 1970s or 1980s, I don't think it was F1, I think it was Indycar, possibly at The Brickyard itself (and no, I'm not thinking of Alex Zanardi - that was 2001, this was much earlier). There was a camera shot after the crash of a single seater where the driver's legs can clearly be seen sticking out of the front of an inverted spinning car where the absent nose-cone and front wheels would have been.

6:00 the fact Shuey lost breaks at the end of that straight is horrifying. Given I survive, I'd be eyeballing a few engineers after!

Reminds me of those crashes in Indycar where the nose ripped off. Stan Fox in 1995. And Alex Zanardi in 2001

I was at the Monterey Historics when it happened and standing next to the car before it left the garages. There were quite a few retired Ferrari F1 cars there. After the crash the car was covered and stored at the end garage with no access to it. I heard later on there was litigation pending. It was known at the time that car had been heavily crashed during it's racing service and spliced back together by Ferrari. I was a guest at the Ferrari hospitality tent at turn 5 and they already knew the history of the car then

I always knew about The Rich Fat Too Much Money Club and Ferrari's hilarious ability to relieve them of their cash and essentially keep and control the cars but I always wondered about that photo, thanks 👏

Marshaled for a Ferrari event at Daytona where they had the corse clienti cars there. Was a great event, serious money

I was like 999% sure this is a clickbait. My man, very good job with this video!

Was thinking from the thumbnail something similar to the indie car crash happened but he got super lucky to still have his legs