Inverting a subwoofer….. is there a benefit? Or a consequence?
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@jimmyjam55882 жыл бұрын
Finally someone goes in depth about inverting a subwoofer in relation with port area
@user-xx7on8kf4l Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great explanation. I'm sitting here answering along to your questions lol. Since I currently have 2 separate boxes, I may invert one to try and increase my range, and my whip is an '02 so it is very fitting with the tines 😂😂
@MadballBaby2 жыл бұрын
Stronger together 🙏🏾 and when you speak I listen because knowledge is power and when MB build them enclosures dem lows is major power💪🏾Maryland showing ❤️if what I said didn’t make sense hay put how you want to make it to make sense🤔.😂😂
@JAM-ur8tj2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of inverting a subwoofer, but it does look cool sometimes. Great info on the subject I was wondering if their was any advantages. Keep up the good content.
@myevilbanana2 жыл бұрын
Tip… if you want to try inverted and don’t want to build a 2nd box or change your current box’s tuning find the total displacement for all drivers used and find something of equal displacement to put in the box (just make sure you don’t block the inner port opening in anyway and is secured it somehow so it doesn’t move around inside the box and make noise). 2x4’s & a couple correct length screws work pretty well.
@kevinvanewijk17482 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch MB! I now finally, because 'box gets bigger/port got smaller' decided NOT to invert. I endlessly doubted because I run an almost 15! year old AudioSystem X-ion 12-800 on a DLS CAD15 wired to 2ohms in a 50 liter aeroported box. Only my box is 10liters smaller than the original AS enclosure which is 60liters. Displacement of the speaker is (only) 24liters... But still that's almost half the box 😭 Because I listen mostly to heavy kicks, techno and rave music I chose this setup with the port of 10cm(5inch) in diameter and being 25cm (10inches) long I managed to tune around 40 Hz. Just because down to say 35 Hz there's only depth and too much thunder going on @ 0dB to get 👌🏻 kicks. To increase box volume I switched a couple times, not getting audible output increase. When I got the phase just right I sounded ok but much 'flappier' when inverted.. now I know why🤫 Hail to the King baby! Greetings, from the Netherlands!
@MrJeast2 жыл бұрын
The chain is rubbing on the mic
@rz9708
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I was like dam who eating chips 🤣
@yootoo567
2 жыл бұрын
Right.... and MBE loved your comment.. just go's to show that he don't be reading ALL the comments, just rubber stamps them with his love, pathetic
@jeffreyparish8393
11 ай бұрын
Yeah sadly, but still a nice video I’ve been curious about this too
@Dubzy__
7 ай бұрын
He lettin the money do the talkin💯🔥
@Random_44002 жыл бұрын
thanks i have a small pre fab box that's ever so slightly too small for my sub i will try to invert the sub and see if it makes a difference.
@JT-ml8uw2 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation! Just asked you about this the other day
@ChadsLoud2 жыл бұрын
Really great video appreciate you sharing the knowledge 👍
@forlornvaalan7630 Жыл бұрын
It looks cool, especially with certain brands or custom designs. Or programmed LEDs.
@orvilleblack3774 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a great video, appreciate the information. Question: if the speaker manufacturer recommends the port tuning frequency to be 40Hz & you tune the port to 35Hz what would be: 1. The positive & negative effect on the subwoofer? 2. Will you be hurting the subwoofer & shortning it's life? Thanks
@Mr.Cutt822 жыл бұрын
I like it inverted helps with keeping 😎
@RyanBassForLife2 жыл бұрын
Nice love the lesson. Wonder what mine would sound like inverted.
@dcole8082 жыл бұрын
Great vid...ALL FACTS ALWAYS 💯 Congrats on 16k subs!!!!!!
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@corycmb111
Жыл бұрын
@@M.B.Enclosures you are very good and I respect how you are teaching everyone. Most companies or individuals that are making money would not want to do what you are doing. Just to corner the market....much respect 🙏
@rexracer537 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, I was just about to shoot you that same question. Good looking out boss man
@redneck8585 Жыл бұрын
I got two 12” skar evl’s in a dual skar armor box in a short body trailblazer could i invert them and gain more movement possibly I don’t want to mess it up?
@guadalupeflores89275 ай бұрын
What kind of subs do you recommend and what size of subs should I get for My 2016 Ford Focus
@SegregatedZebra5 ай бұрын
Ive seen an adjustable tube port that could solve this problem just mark the tube when testing or if the customer wants it to look clean you can make them a ruler or something… you could even build the box to be inverted and the have slide in aeroports of different diameters to adjust tune for regular mount.
@Nostagefright2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the situation your in like if the box is a tad bit too small the sub will be “tricked” into thinking the box is bigger and if you’ll be running shit loads of power inverting helps in keeping the woofer cool too as far as I know I don’t think it “sounds” any different either mount
@bassjasinski2 жыл бұрын
Nice lesson. Warmer air in the box lowers air density in the box making the box bigger to the sub.
@greenbassboosts8872
2 жыл бұрын
It would do the opposite and make the tuning higher at the same time. There's so much air movement is a ported box, though, that I tend not to worry
@kyobo6228 Жыл бұрын
What sundown model is that?
@crandallexpo06482 жыл бұрын
I want to get a box for my skar Zvx 15s but I don’t want it to have it shipped and I no longer be were in stationed at... the one I have now was a custom box designed for Nemesis Audio Mystic 15s there 1000 something rms spec build
@BramtheMan1 Жыл бұрын
I need a box for 2 12in vxf dual 4ohm subs to the most recommended cubic ft volume and I do wanna try inverting them
@davidtucker4921 Жыл бұрын
i inverted mine they sounded much better the box that i got was bought with the subs, and its a ported box, i did this with my 12's and my 18's both got louder and hit harder.
@denisbasshead77872 жыл бұрын
Yiu are inside my mind Boss yeahhhhh my teacher 🤝✊
@josedecena5 ай бұрын
What's the best enclosure for 1 skar evl65
@antariusb2 жыл бұрын
After I pick up my box, straight to the Audio Shop….
@a8075113 ай бұрын
Wouldn't the loss of cone area cause a slight sound level difference?
@liftedcj7on44s2 жыл бұрын
I run inverted for cooling only, I run 8 DC level 5 12's in a serial 6th order. So inverted for me puts the motor/coil in the "large" chamber and helps cooling.
@GTILOUD
Жыл бұрын
What is a serial 6th order
@liftedcj7on44s
Жыл бұрын
@@GTILOUD a serial 6th order has the rear chamber port firing into the front chamber where as a parallel 6th order the front and rear chamber are separate.
@BlackPanther-oo4zj2 жыл бұрын
Salute!
@reewop15102 жыл бұрын
You were giving so much game but I couldn't focus past that CRUNCH CRUNCH.. diggn in bag CRUNCH. I wonder if that chip bag was inverted
@humbleshootertm26872 жыл бұрын
We're Stronger Together!
@JohnG10002 жыл бұрын
I would say with one sub you'd be alright either way but if you've got multiple huge displacement subs sharing the same port and airspace you might run into problems if you switch it up from what it was designed for .
@mr.v26662 жыл бұрын
I love inverted subs
@quintonnaidoo82812 жыл бұрын
Does inverting subwoofers require more power to play as lound as traditional facing subwoofers
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
No
@Raiderknight420 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like someone is eating potato chips off-camera lol. Great vid though, very well explained and worded...
@matthewguynn36522 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@johnnylongballs8187 Жыл бұрын
You in gwinnett? Im un dorravile. Need a couple boxes built!!!
@BenaresDarkness2 жыл бұрын
The only time I've seen this done in person was because the box was too small so they inverted the sub temporarily to increase the air space.
@tezd22002 жыл бұрын
💯
@kenedie611 Жыл бұрын
i have 2 15 inch kickers, and its definetly louder
@cbronsonda13th372 жыл бұрын
So if I got a small enclosure I can make it sound louder with the subs inverted?
@mighty9100
2 жыл бұрын
He just explained it
@fishrrelaxing9361
2 жыл бұрын
You only gain the displacement of the sub. The box size is very small difference unless you have a massive basket and magnet design.. even then it’s still not a huge difference unless you are working with a very limited space and box that will fit in that space..
@davidtucker4921
Жыл бұрын
well not for sure but i know inverting mine was like night and day from sound, but cabin space might be some reason too i have mine in a mini van
@chamhadcoler50792 жыл бұрын
Gotta question which one is better kicker 2 12s compr’s or kicker 2 12 L7 solo baric ?
@nbdbreezy4352
2 жыл бұрын
I've had both, solo baric is gonna hit harder and lower, but CompRs are no slouch especially for the money. If you're not upgrading your car's electrical go with 2 12 CompRs, but if you upgrade your electrical then 2 12 L7s all day
@chamhadcoler5079
2 жыл бұрын
@@nbdbreezy4352 thxs for the info had the comprs for a while already upgraded my electrical time for a sub change
@kevinlondon83402 жыл бұрын
I have seen some boxes with both inverted and traditional in the same box. how is that done and what do you have to do to make it work properly
@thenotoriousrvh6091
2 жыл бұрын
Wire one of the subs backwards. As long as the cone of both subs are moving in the same direction your fine.
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly as he said☝🏿
@kevinlondon8340
2 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks
@kevinlondon8340
2 жыл бұрын
What about air space and tuning
@thenotoriousrvh6091
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinlondon8340 He went over that in the video. Generally it's going be a negligible difference. Audible & noticable ? It's going to depend on "your" ears.
@JosePereira-cc1ju2 жыл бұрын
no Heat. Run cool And for Ever. Im Sold!. inverted it is .
@harryhicas7 ай бұрын
Should the positive/ negative terminals be reversed if inverting the sub? Thanks
@DB_on_the_dailey
4 ай бұрын
No if your subs are inverted you do not reverse polarity so no don't reverse negative and positive on your sub if inverting
@harryhicas
4 ай бұрын
@@DB_on_the_dailey thanks i appreciate you responding 👊
@DB_on_the_dailey
4 ай бұрын
Any time I can spread my vast car audio knowledge bo beginners or pros just look me up I will do my best to give logical advicse startinh a new channel in the next couple weeks cheak it out and spread the word my brother
@keatondavis6382 жыл бұрын
When are you gonna post a video of the juggernaut?
@ryancapps12542 жыл бұрын
How Do I go about getting a quote for a 4 15s box
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
Text me at 404 694 4818
@Gravity184bx2 жыл бұрын
You need a overhead microphone boom
@germanywho2 жыл бұрын
👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
@longlivefresh862 жыл бұрын
Do you ship to Charlotte NC
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@craigguynes16132 жыл бұрын
Your mic and your chains are fighting...lol
@greenbassboosts88722 жыл бұрын
Isobaric gives you the best of both worlds XD and the worst too..
@VegasElement Жыл бұрын
My man...chains vs. mic placement.
@doylerogers19402 жыл бұрын
That crackling sound was damn annoying 🤪
@thetruthtings16722 жыл бұрын
Mbe what kind of wood glue you use
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
Titebond Premium
@thetruthtings1672
2 жыл бұрын
@@M.B.Enclosures thanks man you are the sound's GOD
@Jordancade2010 Жыл бұрын
you know you always have to make that sub inverted when you have that big ass motor you gotta show that shit off
@atmosphericpressure35602 жыл бұрын
I flipped my 15" and reversed the wiring and she pounds.
@TimmyDfromtheD2 жыл бұрын
Is your mic inside a bag of potato chips??? Just playing..
@bassbrother101
2 жыл бұрын
Rubbing up against his chain
@TimmyDfromtheD
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i figured saying just playing people would catch i know what the noise was
@Nostagefright
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😂😂😂😂😂
@devisissy12 жыл бұрын
Who ever is wasting chips stop trying to hear.
@robertomascarenas83832 жыл бұрын
You should take the mic off your chain dog, the noise from it moving is pretty loud on my headphones
@allenavery7532 жыл бұрын
Hey my friend, if this robot underground guy doesn't stop talking about you AND your people....I'm fixin to drive to where he is and deal with this fool MYSELF!!!!!
@allenavery753
2 жыл бұрын
But he IS bringing you viewer. I just personally don't like him. He talks about Steve Meade, calls Rockford and Kicker "Junk"...so...go figure. Just know...your people got your back!
@txddyfarquh39164 ай бұрын
2years late and that chain still annoys me lol
@yuhHornerman2 жыл бұрын
Your chain rubbing against ypur mic bro
@mikestanley356Ай бұрын
Take your chain off its moving against your microphone
Пікірлер: 98
Finally someone goes in depth about inverting a subwoofer in relation with port area
Thanks for this great explanation. I'm sitting here answering along to your questions lol. Since I currently have 2 separate boxes, I may invert one to try and increase my range, and my whip is an '02 so it is very fitting with the tines 😂😂
Stronger together 🙏🏾 and when you speak I listen because knowledge is power and when MB build them enclosures dem lows is major power💪🏾Maryland showing ❤️if what I said didn’t make sense hay put how you want to make it to make sense🤔.😂😂
I'm not a fan of inverting a subwoofer, but it does look cool sometimes. Great info on the subject I was wondering if their was any advantages. Keep up the good content.
Tip… if you want to try inverted and don’t want to build a 2nd box or change your current box’s tuning find the total displacement for all drivers used and find something of equal displacement to put in the box (just make sure you don’t block the inner port opening in anyway and is secured it somehow so it doesn’t move around inside the box and make noise). 2x4’s & a couple correct length screws work pretty well.
Thanks a bunch MB! I now finally, because 'box gets bigger/port got smaller' decided NOT to invert. I endlessly doubted because I run an almost 15! year old AudioSystem X-ion 12-800 on a DLS CAD15 wired to 2ohms in a 50 liter aeroported box. Only my box is 10liters smaller than the original AS enclosure which is 60liters. Displacement of the speaker is (only) 24liters... But still that's almost half the box 😭 Because I listen mostly to heavy kicks, techno and rave music I chose this setup with the port of 10cm(5inch) in diameter and being 25cm (10inches) long I managed to tune around 40 Hz. Just because down to say 35 Hz there's only depth and too much thunder going on @ 0dB to get 👌🏻 kicks. To increase box volume I switched a couple times, not getting audible output increase. When I got the phase just right I sounded ok but much 'flappier' when inverted.. now I know why🤫 Hail to the King baby! Greetings, from the Netherlands!
The chain is rubbing on the mic
@rz9708
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I was like dam who eating chips 🤣
@yootoo567
2 жыл бұрын
Right.... and MBE loved your comment.. just go's to show that he don't be reading ALL the comments, just rubber stamps them with his love, pathetic
@jeffreyparish8393
11 ай бұрын
Yeah sadly, but still a nice video I’ve been curious about this too
@Dubzy__
7 ай бұрын
He lettin the money do the talkin💯🔥
thanks i have a small pre fab box that's ever so slightly too small for my sub i will try to invert the sub and see if it makes a difference.
Nice explanation! Just asked you about this the other day
Really great video appreciate you sharing the knowledge 👍
It looks cool, especially with certain brands or custom designs. Or programmed LEDs.
Thanks for such a great video, appreciate the information. Question: if the speaker manufacturer recommends the port tuning frequency to be 40Hz & you tune the port to 35Hz what would be: 1. The positive & negative effect on the subwoofer? 2. Will you be hurting the subwoofer & shortning it's life? Thanks
I like it inverted helps with keeping 😎
Nice love the lesson. Wonder what mine would sound like inverted.
Great vid...ALL FACTS ALWAYS 💯 Congrats on 16k subs!!!!!!
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@corycmb111
Жыл бұрын
@@M.B.Enclosures you are very good and I respect how you are teaching everyone. Most companies or individuals that are making money would not want to do what you are doing. Just to corner the market....much respect 🙏
Thank you so much for this video, I was just about to shoot you that same question. Good looking out boss man
I got two 12” skar evl’s in a dual skar armor box in a short body trailblazer could i invert them and gain more movement possibly I don’t want to mess it up?
What kind of subs do you recommend and what size of subs should I get for My 2016 Ford Focus
Ive seen an adjustable tube port that could solve this problem just mark the tube when testing or if the customer wants it to look clean you can make them a ruler or something… you could even build the box to be inverted and the have slide in aeroports of different diameters to adjust tune for regular mount.
It depends on the situation your in like if the box is a tad bit too small the sub will be “tricked” into thinking the box is bigger and if you’ll be running shit loads of power inverting helps in keeping the woofer cool too as far as I know I don’t think it “sounds” any different either mount
Nice lesson. Warmer air in the box lowers air density in the box making the box bigger to the sub.
@greenbassboosts8872
2 жыл бұрын
It would do the opposite and make the tuning higher at the same time. There's so much air movement is a ported box, though, that I tend not to worry
What sundown model is that?
I want to get a box for my skar Zvx 15s but I don’t want it to have it shipped and I no longer be were in stationed at... the one I have now was a custom box designed for Nemesis Audio Mystic 15s there 1000 something rms spec build
I need a box for 2 12in vxf dual 4ohm subs to the most recommended cubic ft volume and I do wanna try inverting them
i inverted mine they sounded much better the box that i got was bought with the subs, and its a ported box, i did this with my 12's and my 18's both got louder and hit harder.
Yiu are inside my mind Boss yeahhhhh my teacher 🤝✊
What's the best enclosure for 1 skar evl65
After I pick up my box, straight to the Audio Shop….
Wouldn't the loss of cone area cause a slight sound level difference?
I run inverted for cooling only, I run 8 DC level 5 12's in a serial 6th order. So inverted for me puts the motor/coil in the "large" chamber and helps cooling.
@GTILOUD
Жыл бұрын
What is a serial 6th order
@liftedcj7on44s
Жыл бұрын
@@GTILOUD a serial 6th order has the rear chamber port firing into the front chamber where as a parallel 6th order the front and rear chamber are separate.
Salute!
You were giving so much game but I couldn't focus past that CRUNCH CRUNCH.. diggn in bag CRUNCH. I wonder if that chip bag was inverted
We're Stronger Together!
I would say with one sub you'd be alright either way but if you've got multiple huge displacement subs sharing the same port and airspace you might run into problems if you switch it up from what it was designed for .
I love inverted subs
Does inverting subwoofers require more power to play as lound as traditional facing subwoofers
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
No
Sounds like someone is eating potato chips off-camera lol. Great vid though, very well explained and worded...
Nice video
You in gwinnett? Im un dorravile. Need a couple boxes built!!!
The only time I've seen this done in person was because the box was too small so they inverted the sub temporarily to increase the air space.
💯
i have 2 15 inch kickers, and its definetly louder
So if I got a small enclosure I can make it sound louder with the subs inverted?
@mighty9100
2 жыл бұрын
He just explained it
@fishrrelaxing9361
2 жыл бұрын
You only gain the displacement of the sub. The box size is very small difference unless you have a massive basket and magnet design.. even then it’s still not a huge difference unless you are working with a very limited space and box that will fit in that space..
@davidtucker4921
Жыл бұрын
well not for sure but i know inverting mine was like night and day from sound, but cabin space might be some reason too i have mine in a mini van
Gotta question which one is better kicker 2 12s compr’s or kicker 2 12 L7 solo baric ?
@nbdbreezy4352
2 жыл бұрын
I've had both, solo baric is gonna hit harder and lower, but CompRs are no slouch especially for the money. If you're not upgrading your car's electrical go with 2 12 CompRs, but if you upgrade your electrical then 2 12 L7s all day
@chamhadcoler5079
2 жыл бұрын
@@nbdbreezy4352 thxs for the info had the comprs for a while already upgraded my electrical time for a sub change
I have seen some boxes with both inverted and traditional in the same box. how is that done and what do you have to do to make it work properly
@thenotoriousrvh6091
2 жыл бұрын
Wire one of the subs backwards. As long as the cone of both subs are moving in the same direction your fine.
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly as he said☝🏿
@kevinlondon8340
2 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks
@kevinlondon8340
2 жыл бұрын
What about air space and tuning
@thenotoriousrvh6091
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinlondon8340 He went over that in the video. Generally it's going be a negligible difference. Audible & noticable ? It's going to depend on "your" ears.
no Heat. Run cool And for Ever. Im Sold!. inverted it is .
Should the positive/ negative terminals be reversed if inverting the sub? Thanks
@DB_on_the_dailey
4 ай бұрын
No if your subs are inverted you do not reverse polarity so no don't reverse negative and positive on your sub if inverting
@harryhicas
4 ай бұрын
@@DB_on_the_dailey thanks i appreciate you responding 👊
@DB_on_the_dailey
4 ай бұрын
Any time I can spread my vast car audio knowledge bo beginners or pros just look me up I will do my best to give logical advicse startinh a new channel in the next couple weeks cheak it out and spread the word my brother
When are you gonna post a video of the juggernaut?
How Do I go about getting a quote for a 4 15s box
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
Text me at 404 694 4818
You need a overhead microphone boom
👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Do you ship to Charlotte NC
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
Your mic and your chains are fighting...lol
Isobaric gives you the best of both worlds XD and the worst too..
My man...chains vs. mic placement.
That crackling sound was damn annoying 🤪
Mbe what kind of wood glue you use
@M.B.Enclosures
2 жыл бұрын
Titebond Premium
@thetruthtings1672
2 жыл бұрын
@@M.B.Enclosures thanks man you are the sound's GOD
you know you always have to make that sub inverted when you have that big ass motor you gotta show that shit off
I flipped my 15" and reversed the wiring and she pounds.
Is your mic inside a bag of potato chips??? Just playing..
@bassbrother101
2 жыл бұрын
Rubbing up against his chain
@TimmyDfromtheD
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i figured saying just playing people would catch i know what the noise was
@Nostagefright
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😂😂😂😂😂
Who ever is wasting chips stop trying to hear.
You should take the mic off your chain dog, the noise from it moving is pretty loud on my headphones
Hey my friend, if this robot underground guy doesn't stop talking about you AND your people....I'm fixin to drive to where he is and deal with this fool MYSELF!!!!!
@allenavery753
2 жыл бұрын
But he IS bringing you viewer. I just personally don't like him. He talks about Steve Meade, calls Rockford and Kicker "Junk"...so...go figure. Just know...your people got your back!
2years late and that chain still annoys me lol
Your chain rubbing against ypur mic bro
Take your chain off its moving against your microphone