1. Wax your liners thoroughly and they’ll never squeak. 2. Premiums are better suited for tight fitting shells not necessarily for downsizing. 909s are roomy which is why it’s better to use the purpose built themtuition liner for that shell. Premiums are great in Blanks, Shifts, m12s, and sways. 3. A review for intuitions “universal” liner should include trying them in more than one shell.

@shner84

11 ай бұрын

909 are roomy skates your nut you must have a narrow foot. Those were as tight as the cults are

@bladeshred01

11 ай бұрын

💯💯

@matgxx

11 ай бұрын

What do you mean by wax?

@Semiresponsible

11 ай бұрын

@@matgxx take a bar of skate wax, or surf wax, If you have it, (it’s softer and goes on faster,) literally rub that bar of wax all over the outside of the liner where it touches the inside of the shell. squeak eliminated.

Makes me happy I use exclusively the Twister Edge Liners for all my skates. They are extremely good.

The Medium Them's are just a big skate. Once the Smedium comes out I'd be interesting to hear your thoughts putting the intuition in that size (if you plan on getting them). I'm sure it'd be the perfect fit. The thing with Intuitions is that it makes it very clear how unnecessarily large some skates are. I think most plastic shells (apart from a few) are made for puffy/forgiving liners (to make sizing easier) so a lot, in my opinion, just don't work with with those really thin liners without downsizing.

I am on Mooooopi 909's with Intuition Premiums and it is a game-changer for me. I have flat feet, and my whole skating career have had problems with blister in my instep. Salomons and some Remedyz are the only skates that do not blister me on the instep. Intuition premiums fixed this problem for me in the 909's. Shoutout to Long at Oak City for the suggestion, because it was spot on.

@timz85

Жыл бұрын

Exact same story here! Finally no more blistering/wounds.

I know nothing about these liners from personal experience… I appreciate you giving us your personal experience with them non sugar coated.

Great info. Ive been told so many times that these are the best liners ever, so its nice to hear some thought out feedback. I love the MyFit Second Skin, and at 40% the price of intuition they are a real steal

nice review!

No experience with Intuitions myself, but bamboo socks are a game changer for the odour! My skates just don't smell anymore!

@ericbernardi8116

10 ай бұрын

Bamboo socks are the best 🤩💯 They also get kind of sticky when you sweat (and you do a lot in Intuitions 😅)

I'm loving the RL2's. They are quality in my loco m12s. Have similar Adapt woes as you. They kill my feet. Switched to a high arch insole which has really helped. Hoping headmoulding with this stops my toes pressing against the end of the toebox.

The Them x Intuitions fit the 909s and 908s perfectly - they fill out the shell and do not move around. The problem with the smell even though you bought a boot dryer is because the bacteria and fungi have already developed in the liners when you initially got and used them prior to the boot dryer. If you used the boot dryer as soon as you started using the liners every time, it would not smell. I have the Them x Intuitions and put them on top of my dehumidifier after every session and there is minimal to no smell, even after a couple years worth of skating.

I got the same liners and they do squeak like crazy!

I had the v1s since they came out and got the premiums less than a year ago. You can still use the v1. These liners last forever. Def to much room in the thems, added a footbed underneath and it filled it out and helped with the squeak.

I had UFRs with intuitions. I ended up selling the intuitions and swapping out to Roces RL2s. I absolutely love the RL2s. You'd probably hate them though, because the heel lock system they use requires laces, and good luck putting the heel lock back in if you take out the laces.

dope shirt brother

Great review man! Definitely recommend giving them a shot in M12s 🙌 feels like they unlock a lot of hidden potential in the boots :)

@ThatShaunBoy

Жыл бұрын

One of the only plastic boots I think they work in for me. Completely transforms that skate

@swissblader8037

Жыл бұрын

They fit absolutely perfect to the M12. Greets from Switzerland!

I'm sure there are great things about these (some of which you point out) but I always enjoy when someone can point out the flaws of really expensive items that get put on a pedestal. Now if only someone did the same with wizard frames...

I'm glad you mentioned how much more room it has, because I was about to buy one for my SL but I already have a bit of room in the MyFit prime liners, so this would be the same or worse. Crown liner it is 😁

@chilli-iceolive-abode2447

Жыл бұрын

Fatboys are great in the SL as well. I think the SPC might also be really good, but you can't go wrong with the Crowns if you've got space.

@shner84

11 ай бұрын

Do with reign v3 livers in the sl. Best fit I found

You lose all credibility when you say that your foot moved around in the liner given you refused to lace the liners.

First few times I tried Intuitions I hated them. Then I got the Wizard skates and they allowed me to downsize shells and they also felt great with big wheels. I got the THEMtuitions which I also now enjoy for big wheels and finally the FR Intuitions which are markedly worse quality. Obviously that's to be expected for the price, but I'm surprised by how much better quality the THEM ones are. The plus points for the FR version is they're super soft in comparison to the other two I've used so I was able to enjoy them with aggressive skates and not just big wheels. I've only been using them a few months and the internal lining is all saggy and has ripped above the heel exposing the foam, but they still feel good. That's my essay on my experience with Intuitions 🤓

@james-ted-garland

Жыл бұрын

The comparison between the FR and the Them Intuitions is interesting. I just assumed they were the same.

@chilli-iceolive-abode2447

Жыл бұрын

​@@james-ted-garlandI assumed they would be the same as well, but no. For reference I have the Danny Beer THEMtuitions and the white UFR ones. The THEM ones are much stiffer round the cuff and the FR ones are just much softer overall. And like I said the FR ones have sagged and ripped internally and I've only had them a few months. I've had the THEM ones for well over a year.

I had to use an ozone shoe dryer to make the intuitions not smell. They work amazing for me, but they do hold a smell if not ozonated regularly. Especially if you skate in a humid climate.

I had to get a pair so I could fit into the largest aeon boot. Like the thin material. Has to drop the support on the back though

Hi man, great videos! I wanted to ask What is the name of the White helmet you are using? It looks super nice, Thank you

@BrandonDrummond

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching man. It's called the Enui Elite Helmet. The smallest certified helmet on the market. Highly recommend. powerslide.com/collections/ennui-helmets

I skate USD Sways, any liner recommendations for this particular model???

Awesome ❤

you should use cedar show trees when your done skating. it really helps the smell.

Get a Peet boot dryer with the ionizer attachment. I've never had a smell or any odor, it dries out all sweat and eliminates all possible odors, I use it after every skate. I'm not a fan of my premium intuitions, but I will never skate any liner other than my 3m wizard liner, nothing better for me. Love them so much that when they came back up at wizard skating for those that had purchased boots previously, I got a second pair for when the first ones die on me.

I had some FR UFRs and I put the Intuition liner from those in my 909s and I preferred the 909 stock liner 🤷‍♂️ I also had the v2 Intuition in the past and found that uncomfortable too. Maybe it's just my feet 😂

@BrandonDrummond

Жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one 😆 Thanks for watching man

I tried the v2's and couldn't get a good fit with them. Ended up going the Rocces RL1s and they were amazing. Kind of disappointed that these came out after I bought the RL1s as the wider range of sizes would probably sort me out. Guess I'll revisit this when I smash the RL1s

My favourite liners so far since returning to skating are the reign v3 the myfit SPC and 2nd sking.....I had intuitions with my 909 and they are my least favourite liner I've used, too hard

@rollforever_85

Жыл бұрын

Yep I don’t see what’s supposed to be comfortable about intuitions. They’re responsive yeah.. but destroy my feet within a few hours

It's not the rubber that makes the liners squeak, it's the fabric. put a light coating of wax over the fabric and that noise goes away. One thing that can help with odor is using purrel disinfectant spray which gets rid of the odor. I've talked about this some on my channel when reviewing skates with Intuition liners.

Yeah Intuitions weren't for me either. But man I wish Reign would produce more consistently/frequently. Every V3 at size US10/EU43 disappears within a month

Have you tried putting them in the freezer to kill the smell?

the intuition liners never worked for me even after skating after a couple of sessions. I tried the yellow ones and premiums and it just hurts my feet.

With the Premium you need a Mondo size one size lower than by number. I have a 250mm Mondo and Premiums size 37 fit me perfeclty...

I have made a similar experience with them on the Razors Cult. I love the Cults because they fit perfect to my feet and I ride them usually with the Seba CJ Foryos Liner which fits absolutely perfect to this boot. But after all what I heared about the Intuition Liners I gave them a try. But honestly, the Foryos Liner is for me the much better choice because with these Intuitions the Cults feel a little bit like a skiboot. The support is great but for aggressive skating they are for me not the best choice because they have for my taste too less flex and they rubbed also too much on my calfs. The tongue is for my taste too big and stiff and the ears oft this second layer on the back are going to far down almost to the sole of the liner in the heel-area. And this, together with the fact that the liner is pretty much padded in the heel- and middle-foot-area, creates a lot of pressure in the heel-area which leads to hard foot-pain if you use them in tighter boots as the Roces M12, USD-Sway, Razors Cult etc. And I have pretty narrow feet. I do not want to imagine how they feel for people with wider feet.... And they have made the Cults also slightly slower than the Foryos Liner. Besides I do not like these backleashs which are aligned vertical and not horizontal like on other Liners. They disturbed me because they touched also always my calfs while skating and they also disturbed me while steping into the boots (they slipped always together with my feet into the boot what annoyed me). So, I will go back to the Foryos liner which has the same support but ways better flex and better feel on slim feet like mine. The intuitions I will use probably for Wizard and Urban skating. I do not know how they feel in wider skate-models. But I can imagine that they are a better choice if somebody rides skates with a wider shell like the Them 909s, Razors SL etc. But for tighter skate-models they are in my eyes the completetely wrong choice.

@rollforever_85

Жыл бұрын

I’ve had a similar experience with the Intuition premium. They’re too stiff for my preferences with aggressive.. they’re good for big wheels but only for short periods. They destroy my feet after a fews hours.

I would have never tried them unless I got them with the 909’s.

See I'm not crazy. Interesting you came to a similar conclusion about these that I did. Great job with the review.

I wish they had color ways

A siren call to non idiots to start making product reviews, good god.

I have a love hate relationship w/ premiums. I love how responsive they are, I love how good the quality is but they do move in your shell no matter what I do. That gives me a weird feeling sometimes, almost makes me trip over myself. I think I like Reign liners the best. They never lift and are insanely comfy. But quality isnt even close.

@bladeshred01

Жыл бұрын

sounds like your shell is too big for that liner. Try removing the plastic footbed that's under your liner if you have one and cut out another one made out of yoga mat foam and place it for grip.. or find another smaller shell 🤷‍♂️

@rampageriseden

Жыл бұрын

@@bladeshred01 I downsize my skates. Not that at all just the liners. I have plenty of friends who experience the same thing.

Still haven't found anything better than juggernaut liners

Nice review bro! I suspect that they just don't gel well with those particular skates. In my USD Sways they have been a game changer. Much more comfortable (once broken in - didn't have to heat mold)) than my second skins (which I rate), and I like the extra ankle support (without the rigid velcro on bit they are floppy as hell though). Haven't noticed any smell whatsoever and no squeak on the bottom. Did squeak around the cuff for a while but that went away as they wore in. Having said all that, still a pretty expensive liner!

The them liners fill out the shell much more compared to the premium liners cam confirm.

For big wheel skating there is simply no other liner that matches the responsiveness and edge control of Intuitions... Smell is never a problem with bamboo socks (magic, gotta try 😘) And yes the downside is you can't just put them in a roomy shell you had with a thick soft liner... Intuition works best if it wraps tight around your feet and is connected with the boots laces... No liner movement no foot movement 😉

Only liner I can skate for 24h without any sort of pain or issue is intuition premium.. Any other premium liners I've tried always fail this simple task🙃. That says it all for me.. I buy shoes that are more expensive that aren't designed to take the beating my liners do and they last less than a year.. I want the best I can get for my feet. P. S: I'm a size 47EU in a size xl them shell or 46 blank.. So believe me they get put through their paces.. Maybe I'm on the extreme end of the size spectrum and other liners just work fine for normal feet and not mine. Mine don't smell though🙃.. They air out very quick.. Aggred the wrinkle is fugly. Only downside about intuitions is that they take like two months of daily skating to actually break in and become the best liner you can buy.. Before that they are a pain.. Even frustrating... Don't give up on them is my advice 🙏

Thank god you didn’t drink the kool aid. Maybe do a follow up after downsizing?

they delaminate around the heel on the inside

Most overhyped product in the game., dead on about the smell part too. I won't pick up a home if he skates them..simply because they make my trunk smell for a week 😂

I’ve owned the Premiums over a year and I still don’t believe the hype. Not at all comfortable for me

thats why austin paz is doing tutorials on putting his intuition liners in his dishwasher lolol too stinky. i went with the myfit prime liners. i love em buuut i do kinda agree about the lacing.its just annoying

To anyone watching this review, do yallselves a favor a check out The Mushroom Blading reviews. They are more honest and more precise with their descriptions of the products they are reviewing when it comes to Skates or liners. Complaining about a liner that smells is like complaining about my boxing equipment that i sweat in. This liner is the best investment you will ever make, jst make sure you get the right size for you and your skate. DONT WASH THEM. JST PUT THEM BY A HEATER OR DRYER, & LET THE AIR BLOW INSIDE FOR LIKE 10min. EVERYTIME AFTER YOU RIDE IF YOU CAN, & IT WILL KEEP THE SMELL TO A MINIMUM.

@xdepredatex

Жыл бұрын

You can wash them tho, I’ve washed my grey them intuitions multiple times w no negative effects.

@dumdidelidum

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not the first review I have seen mentioning that these are particularly smelly

@danatello8489

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the stink might not affect them functionally, but if you don't get that much functional benefit from them (based on your foot shape, skate used, etc) it could be one of the deciding factors 🤷

@tobyschnabelhuber

Жыл бұрын

Mine do not smell after more than a year of use. I put them on the boot dryer after every session though.

Bartender tip: put women's clinical Secret deodorant on your feet to prevent stink. Works for staking as well.

I'm way too poor but I'll make a funny video of a giant on blades if someone donates LOL.

The most comfortable, supportive, and durable liner in existence. Works with a lot of skates, i use them on my THEMS & 5th Elements. The intuition premium liner💯🙌🏽 ive had mine for a year, ride every day, and they still feel and look amazing. Most definitely worth the price. And by the way i use my laces but ise them to keep the liner together or tight at the top for when i do wizard skating on my THEMS. This guys complaints for this liner is only on him.

@rampageriseden

Жыл бұрын

Maybe get a profile pic and post some skate content. Until then your opinion is meaningless.

@Reloaded44

Жыл бұрын

Not everyone buys the hype. I think they are a ripoff but if you enjoy it all the power to you.

@thewise_1one856

Жыл бұрын

@@Reloaded44 theirs nothing hype about skating gear ,specially a brand like intuition whom make product specifically for skiii boots. I trust their judgment on thwir liner designs. Yall jst a bunch of cheap skaters.

@Reloaded44

Жыл бұрын

@@thewise_1one856 "theirs nothing hype about skating gear" really should think more before typing what do you call ads and stuff propaganda / marketing? But like they say there is a sucker born every minute enjoy giving them your money! 🤑

I have two pairs, a v2 and a them model that I use in my FR 90s. I swear by them. It’s hilarious that one of your complaints are creases.

F laces all together

i'm 20sec into the video and I can already tell you that those liners are too big for you

I've had really bad experiences with Intuition liners. I really don't see the hype. I've tried them in Thems, Cults, Genesys, FR, M12 and Elements. They feel so sloppy and stiff in every single boot. And honestly, these aren't THAT good for downsizing since they're so stiff and boxy. Obviously worse in a roomier boot like a Genesis. I've found that Myfit and the new Blank liners are a way better fit and bargain being under $100. And yes I definitely agree on the height of them haha, it's pretty dramatic how tall they are. And the smell!! 😂 It's so bad lol. Spot on review 👊🏻🔥

@Reloaded44

Жыл бұрын

You both agree on Blanks I will have to try them out sometime they are reasonably priced compared to all aftermarket options...

@ULTIMATEZEROINLINE

Жыл бұрын

@@stuco agree 👍🏻

@ULTIMATEZEROINLINE

Жыл бұрын

@@Reloaded44 It's def worth the price!

skinny or fatboys are pretty much the same but fit well! way cheaper too!

Short version: no these are total ripoffs. Made in China with no tags stating this so they are trying to be sneaky IMHO. OEM I would totally get them in an existing skate but aftermarket upgrade no f'ing way.

@tobyschnabelhuber

Жыл бұрын

The Premiums as well as the V2s have a label „made in China“ on the inside of the tongue, just below the size.

@Reloaded44

Жыл бұрын

@@tobyschnabelhuber the Premiums I tried didn't I checked all around...

@ericbernardi8116

10 ай бұрын

How is a liner that lasts 5 times longer for just twice the money a ripoff? 😅

@Reloaded44

10 ай бұрын

@@ericbernardi8116 it's your money... no one says they last long then any other brand it all depends on usage and time used.

I had the Them Beer liners. I was getting a lot of heel lift. I don't get this with the Them V4 liners.

Come on you know 100% they are not worth that. If they're worth the cost then Jordan's are worth the price and not to re-sell them. To actually wear them. Intuitions are trash and it's funny because the reason you hear how great they're is because either A. Sponsored. Or B. After paying $200+ plus for any type of product that goes on your feet to wear. You find yourself spending more time trying to convince yourself that you made a good investment after sitting every one trick, and by the time you decide you've made a bad one, it's yours and you can't turn back by then so you force yourself to like them and trick yourself into agreements with falsehoods. I bet you end up "liking them," more and more, because constant self reflection and convincing yourself about the comfort levels will seem like it's getting better but in reality it's because your stuck with them and after spending a 1/4 of your paycheck, you go to extreme lengths, just to enjoy them, and patting yourself on the back based on false realizations. You also don't even notice the fact they're actually uncomfortable , and think the opposite because really it's just that you can't feel your feet. Might as well take guessing they're great is better than knowing theyre arent lol. My buddy gave me some aeons with some intuition liners and said, "try them but give them back." Of course unless I would pay him a small portion back. At the moment it seemed like a great deal. Really did. Until I wore them. I could feel everything in the boot especially every edge pieces of plastic, especially in the cuffs when i did boot tricks. I know his foot is like 3 sizes smaller then mine so they weren't stretched and also were close to new as well as too big for him but he made them work with his baby footed aeons. Just talking shit not all serious here except on the liners. Anyway. Being that we were friends since high-school he was willing to sacrifice them at the expense of me getting back into skating. I was like these are fn terrible. F these. They would have to pay me to wear them and that's per minute. Especially with the whole customize features that have no science behind it other than, it doesn't move, which is backed up by old science since rubber grips things, and laces tighten things if pulled, as well as cushions under feet helps with impact. Your paying all this extra for literally science proven before the creators 3rd generation were existent as if they made these up and are just hype like Jordan's without the resale value. That's why js are sold or worn and put away like womens high heels. So anyway. After hearing you say that and the lil smile while saying worth it I can truly say, and I understand, if I'm correct, but afterwards there is no way you mean that and I agree with you on those liners and thanks God I wasn't easily convinced otherwise I'd not have feeling in my feet and I'd be arguing about what you said just to continue convincing myself I made a good investment while limping back to work to make money for another bad investment since after buying those I may have just shit luck with money.

V2 and any them x intuition are way much better for aggressive than the premium one...