Intrigue in Copenhagen: A Tale of High-Stakes Corporate Espionage
When Chinese tech giant Huawei learned it was set to lose a $200 million contract, a run-of-the-mill equipment deal spiraled into a saga of hidden microphones, drone encounters and covert surveillance, according to investigators for a Danish telecoms firm. Bloomberg reporters crisscrossed Copenhagen for the tale of TDC’s 5G showdown, in which technology, business and national security collide.
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@Frivals
11 ай бұрын
You are speaking about the espionage that USA is going 24h/7days?
@robertgittings8662
11 ай бұрын
*Oh USA Bloomberg :)* after you kidnapped their CEO's daughter on false charge that is not enough for you (then "huge scoop" on the same company spy on the US network turn out to be fabricated by you) apparently these are still not enough for you. Fear of losing hegemony is REAL
@oishibeats5476
3 ай бұрын
Bloomberg should do one of CIA, it got proven they used Denmark for several decades to spionage on Europe, It was in closed doors here in denmark and no charges where raised against CIA. But i guess its better to point fingers at the bad guys. CIA had used denmark for 30+ years to spy on Europe VIA Denmark, that is fact even if America tries to cover it up. Also did you mention TDC went bankrupt in Denmark ? Propaganda always prevails over the truth. And at the forefront of it all is Capitalist ready to profit. And i can tell you who scraped the cake here, American capital did sure we can follow the money to China but in reality it ended up in America. Total monopoly of Internet provided by America controlled by America, just like all foreign affairs in the West and just like "Nato"
This need to be a whole series. Peeling back the layers of modern day espionage in business and government.
@watsappenin2865
11 ай бұрын
Facts why do I find these videos so so interesting. Should make more longer videos this is crazy
@business
11 ай бұрын
Many more stories like this coming soon. Stay tuned.
@ethankishi4228
11 ай бұрын
@@watsappenin2865look up American Greed if you haven’t watched those episodes. It’s crazy the length people will go through with scams
@forloop7713
11 ай бұрын
Yes please
@newchannel1220
11 ай бұрын
MOVIE
Huawei engaging in Espionage to secure a contract is hilarious, cause in attempting it, they prove exactly why they aren't wanted in the first place.
@lolnein7216
11 ай бұрын
I know that this stuff even happens within Germany. DTAG and SAP somehow win suspiciously many contracts by a small margin ;)
@carlos7mh
11 ай бұрын
Saying it as if it’s the only company doing this
@andreasottohansen7338
11 ай бұрын
@@carlos7mh i am really not, because that would be wrong. I am calling out Huawei here specifically, because Huawei not only did the spying, but have done so after being not selected for a bid because of their spying
@Funkoh
11 ай бұрын
@@carlos7mh sure other companies may commit espionage but ultimately it was Huawei which took it to another level by a long shot and was caught in the act
@definitelynotblitzcrank5566
11 ай бұрын
They have likely gained a lot of ground through espionage attempts that were successful in the past.
Jason Lan acted in compliance with all applicable laws... which is why he booked a 1 way ticket straight back to China
@Zetunez
11 ай бұрын
Wild, the dude is almost completely scrubbed from the net, besides this story being associated to him from Bloomberg.
@davidmin3583
11 ай бұрын
It's as if a Chinese national deciding to live in China after working abroad is really suspicious
@SoCalFreelance
11 ай бұрын
What about Goldstein? HE was the inside threat actor working for China. Did Goldstein have connections to israeli intelligence? israel is currently in full charm offensive with China and probably willing to do anything to curry favor with them.
@valmarsiglia
11 ай бұрын
He bought his one-way ticket in full compliance with all applicable laws. 😆
@acmelka
11 ай бұрын
Remember the Japanese panic of the 1990's ... This isn't like that.
The weirdest thing to me about this video, as a danish person, is that there are several buildings with over 15 floors relevant to this story.
@jorgerivotti9858
11 ай бұрын
ahaha
@shumstra
11 ай бұрын
I have, by chance, actually been to a meeting in one of Plesner's top floor conference rooms once, and it did indeed feel like a very non-Danish place to be in. (Great view though!)
@peterknutsen3070
11 ай бұрын
Yup.
@Bubajumba
11 ай бұрын
Can look across the whole country from the top
@michaelstone3069
4 ай бұрын
It's an upright longhouse
Australia has banned Huawei from taking contracts for infrastructure, due to similar security concerns
@saxoleeskibye3923
11 ай бұрын
Pretty sure EU has done that too after cases in Poland, Denmark and several other countries like the one in the video.
@raintreerefuge4679
11 ай бұрын
If only Chinese companies weren't corruption inducing parasites.
@sugandesenuds6663
11 ай бұрын
the UK banned huawei hardware in critical infrastructure, like 25% of their 5G network needs to be swapped out.
@Frivals
11 ай бұрын
You are speaking about the espionage that USA is going 24h/7days?
@njiomonansichristianfreder6374
11 ай бұрын
Legitimately❗️
The fact that Europe still deals with the company shows how asleep at the wheel they are about their future, just like what happened with Russian gas.
Something similar involving Huawei also happened in Indonesia. The minister of communication and information was arrested for corruption alongside at least one Huawei senior personnel.
@jojoanggono3229
11 ай бұрын
Over the years Huawei has managed to edge out Nokia and Ericson as telco infra provider in Indonesia. What happened in Denmark surely was not an isolated case.
@Frivals
11 ай бұрын
You are speaking about the espionage that USA is going 24h/7days?
@jepulis6674
11 ай бұрын
@@jojoanggono3229 Nokia was so happy to do business in China. Did not realize their tech was to be stolen and rebranded.
I'm somewhat shocked that Denmark didn't prosecute Lan or Goldstein.
@johnjohnson-ss4vu
11 ай бұрын
that would be anti-semitic
@Laotzu.Goldbug
11 ай бұрын
Oy vey
@Keithjustkeithwastaken
11 ай бұрын
then you are not very bright
@gts2550
11 ай бұрын
Because none of those things is a crime. Private law cases at best.
@krishnar1182
11 ай бұрын
@@gts2550 i can’t speak to Danish law but in the US it would be. A bid amount is a trade secret and the conduct of Lan & Goldstein would have constituted violations of the Economic Espionage Act in the U.S.
If they are doing this to a mobile operator, imagine the amount espionage going on in Huaweis competitors.
Far more interesting than I anticipated. Really revealing. A 200€ million deal... can really motivate malevolent actions.
@grigorioschristodoulou5229
11 ай бұрын
It probably wasn’t even about the money. They want control over telecommunications networks. Huawei would probably even take the contract at a loss, but then it would be too obvious
@tomclancy5147
11 ай бұрын
To me it seems that this was about more than money, they wanted to be part of that network.. they would happily have made a loss on it
@zarathustra498
11 ай бұрын
200 million is not that much money considering that net profit would be only a fraction of that amount. A normal company wouldn't waste massive resources for spy operation like this. It is more about control and indirect benefits
@Gdisawesome1
11 ай бұрын
More about data control then making a profit I believe
@Ryan-Fkrepublicnz
5 ай бұрын
the motivation was being able to snoop on all of the activity taking place over the 5G network...
Seriously, this should be a series.
You trust any large Chinese corporation at your own peril.
@undefined69695
11 ай бұрын
And now they want to sell ev in America LOL
@HKim0072
11 ай бұрын
Large? Any Chinese company. All Chinese companies have cooperate with spying.
@SLO722
11 ай бұрын
You do know you are saying this while the Americans are screwing you from behind, right?
@mikeboate208
11 ай бұрын
don't be scared ,little boy .
@louisd6410
11 ай бұрын
Meanwhile US gov spies unimpededly spying on allies citizens and gov
Wow what an incredibly informative and interesting video. When you can’t even trust your own security team, you know you’re in DEEP!
You could make an entire series about modern corporate espionage: the China Chronicles
@AuxiliaryPanther
11 ай бұрын
I wrote a paper for college about engineering ethics in China, and Chinese companies suffer from IP theft and the likes from other Chinese conpanies more than any other country. It's the thing to do there.
@Nightman-eb8mj
11 ай бұрын
Why just China, you think the CIA has no access to your data? All of the modern chips have a backdoor access to them. And the current world government hates you more than China does.
@Frivals
11 ай бұрын
You are speaking about the espionage that USA is going 24h/7days?
@Ryan-Fkrepublicnz
5 ай бұрын
starting back when they stole hydrogen bomb and neutron bomb tech from the U.S,
@sharpasacueball
4 ай бұрын
@@AuxiliaryPantherDoesn't surprise me one bit
To see this happening in your own backyard is crazy... Sure I live pretty far away on Bornholm, and even with all the things happening on and around this tiny island is a lot, seeing it in mainland Denmark kinda terrifies me...
@icecube3645
9 ай бұрын
This is a disinformation and smear campaign, don't believe everything on the internet
Wow Espionage is still a serious business.
@lwwells
4 ай бұрын
always has been
It's amazing that Huawei isn't banned in all of the western world.
@bzdtemp
11 ай бұрын
Well, by that standard it is questionable why anyone does business with US companies. Look up ECHELON and the EU for some more background.
@patrik5123
11 ай бұрын
@@bzdtemp I know about Echelon. Plenty. However there is one fundamental difference; The US has a society based on (at least some) democratic principles. China does not.
@bzdtemp
11 ай бұрын
@@patrik5123 Agree. Only for those European companies where US espionage allowed US companies to win contracts and more, it likely didn't make a difference who cheated them. Now the big picture is something else, which should of course not be ignored and it isn't.
@gilgameshur5366
11 ай бұрын
Yeah. Lets drug Them With mcd and cola
@StanleyKubick1
11 ай бұрын
@@patrik5123 so they should be allowed to monitor citizens of sovereign allied countries?
Thanks for getting someone with a Chinese accent to read Huawei’s statement which is in English. It really added to the immersion
What happened to all of the 20+ minute episodes you guys used to release on topics like this? 8 minutes feel so hilariously short now
@eustab.anas-mann9510
11 ай бұрын
This. Also as if Intel and Google are any better than Huawei LOL
@undefined69695
11 ай бұрын
They are better, purely motivated by money which is predictable instead of doing the bidding of an adversarial government.
@davidmin3583
11 ай бұрын
Because they don't have enough material to support this high accusation. It's literally two bloomberg journalists having a chat about allegations from anonymous sources.
@MayorSom
11 ай бұрын
@@undefined69695 surely you’re gullible enough to believe that they won’t succumb to state demand and open 🚪 😂😂
@3s0t3r1c
11 ай бұрын
@@eustab.anas-mann9510 LOL, yes they are better. There is no place for chinese high tech in EU or US.
Wow, this was an incredible video, with even more incredible harrowing findings. I'm shocked
I mean if this isn't a wake up call to stay away from Chinese firms, the idk what is.
@jacekmakes
4 ай бұрын
not really, all companies do that, it just happens that Chinese company got caught red handed...
Yup no punishment, classic reality
@tomo1168
11 ай бұрын
and the chinase gov. openly blackmailed the danish without consequence.
@davidmin3583
11 ай бұрын
It's almost as if there's no enough reliable evidence to support a court case
@martinrotvig
11 ай бұрын
@@davidmin3583no, there are too many Danish and European companies with subsidiaries in China. Any idiot knows that’s the reason, well except you 😂
Great story, many more people should know about..
Watching this on my Huawei phone added yet another layer of paranoia.
@Tehrawrzorz
3 ай бұрын
I couldn't see it on my Huawei phone. I only came across it on my pc.
If this is in Denmark imagine what they are doing in Germany or other larger countries. I'm astonished by the lack of work action
@davidmin3583
11 ай бұрын
Last I recall, it was the Americans who listened in on Merkle's phone
@josefxvi4702
11 ай бұрын
Don’t try and shift the focus David. We’re dealing with one regime at a time.
@Ksoism
11 ай бұрын
Lack of public knowledge isn't lack of action. I'm pretty sure that every hardware supplied by Huawei had been investigated thoroughly, although it is almost impossible to check everything for backdoors. Probably they are being live cycle-exchanged to something else early on their life cycle.
@wallypally
11 ай бұрын
@@davidmin3583the reason why they’re so up about this cause they’re asian
@work204
11 ай бұрын
@@davidmin3583The problem is... U.S. doesn't go usurping other people's land. China is an aggressor. An uncouth bully. If not kept in check China wouldn't stop at any limit to go into rampant expansionism and genocide. If people had to choose between 2 Devils... China still wouldn't be chosen that's how bad it is.
You guys should do the downfall of Norton in canada... when their college was sold, they found the entire building was bugged
@Look_What_You_Did
11 ай бұрын
Citation needed.
@Saltience
4 ай бұрын
Isn’t it called Nortel?
@invertedv12powerhouse77
4 ай бұрын
@@Saltience maybe. It's quite far back in my memory
@udirt
2 ай бұрын
would make more sense if it was around telco industry. nortel were snobs though, which also cost them a lot. and i'm afraid they had Carly Fiorana syndrome even before any china syndrome. @@invertedv12powerhouse77
I am so glad Indian government blacklisted Tiktok and Huawei. This is scary !
@papagen00
11 ай бұрын
well india and china never got along anyway.
@its1374
11 ай бұрын
Well, india just robbed xiaomi. So no one's want to invest in India.
Bravo. Fantastic journalism.
They should make a movie or tv series on it
I wonder why the Chinese feel safe doing these crimes everywhere they go? Maybe because there aren’t repercussions?
@adisproject
11 ай бұрын
Everyone does espionage. Americans destroyed Renault Contracts thanks to their spying.
@dr6377
11 ай бұрын
Why would they fear repercussions? They are backed and encouraged by the CCP. There werent any actual repercussions in this case aswell, except Huawei losing the deal (which they wouldve lost anyway)
@Itssmial_Ova
4 ай бұрын
Because the world is now addicted to cheap Chinese goods. All apart of the plan.
@BOSNAMAGDURLARI
3 ай бұрын
@@Itssmial_Ovawhy china was allowed to be chosen not somwhere else india or indonesia but not near Türkiye 🇹🇷 ? Why china
@Itssmial_Ova
3 ай бұрын
@@BOSNAMAGDURLARI It's happening today lol
wow the drone spying is the opening from William Gibson's "The Peripheral." crazy
A movie should be made about this.
Goldstein.... every single time.
@dr6377
11 ай бұрын
Don't you dare to see a pattern here
@dr6377
11 ай бұрын
@@Adi-bo5do Goldstein is not a typical German name. Its a surname of Yiddish origin (which happens to contain germanic words because of historic reasons, you can look it up). Turning a blind eye to behavioural patterns of certain cultural and social groups, just to keep your perceived moral superiority is decadent and dense.
Turns out my 70yo librarian was a corporate espionage in her prime 😂
Fascinating stuff
insane so well made
Why am I not surprised.
Very interesting
It has happened the same in italy...and i bealive also elsewhere
This should be a 4 series Netflix show
And now the Temu app is doing the same
@LouisBackover
11 ай бұрын
This!!! 👆
@HKim0072
11 ай бұрын
And Tiktok.
Wtf are these Chinese companies doing. I saw one similar case in the US.
@Zero11_ss
11 ай бұрын
Many people have been warning for years but nobody wants to listen until its too late.
@vonFisch
11 ай бұрын
China is a communist dictatorship and all chinese companies are required by law to colaborate with chinese goverment. Even if they (chinese companies, CEOs) don't want to, they have to. That's why no one should ever trust a chinese company
@watsappenin2865
11 ай бұрын
Elon musk worlds richest man and still builds as state of the art tesla giga factory in china. Soon china will be cranking out tesla models with a slightly different badge
Random question: where have I heard that song that starts at around the 2:00 min mark? Is it a video game?
@sblbb929
11 ай бұрын
I don't know the specific song. But the instrument is a 'Handpan' or 'steel drum' Most melodies on this instrument sound extremly similair to me
great
How is Huawei not banned from bidding on anything after this?
@jacekmakes
4 ай бұрын
the same reason Google or Samsung are not banned...
Is it just me, or does this loop the beat to "The Eyeball Kid" by Tom Waits at points?
I would have never expected someone with the name "goldstein" to sell out for money
Hauwai is not a company close to state, every company is a state company if the supreme leader wants it in a second. 😂
@Frivals
11 ай бұрын
You are speaking about the espionage that USA is going 24h/7days?
2:02 Off topic, but the background music here reminds me of Factorio's soundtrack
AWESOME 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Chinese corporations engaging in espionage is little league stuff. They should learn from American corporations and topple entire governments for profit
2:17 is this the factorio musik??
2:58 that some kind of Amiga home computer?!
Sounds like a plot from the Borgen TV show!
Crazy 😮 movie time i think
Did anyone notice the factrio music at 2:18?
Take out a warrant for both Goldstein and jason, what they did guarrantees yrs in prison
@martinrotvig
11 ай бұрын
Sure, we could do that, if we want to tank our own economy completely. It’s like when the US violates our airspace, or refuses to pay rent for their military bases as promised, or clean up their nuclear waste, we can complain a little, but if we try to get justice, we’ll be beaten to the ground economically. You have to pick your battles, at least if you want to win overall.
@sblbb929
11 ай бұрын
Goldstein has dual citizenship so he can just retire to the beaches of Tel-aviv
Even more crazy that he now is working in Telenor (another danish telecom)
@Pants69
11 ай бұрын
Telenor is Norwegian
what is TDC? They never actually say what TDC is in the video.
Possible movie?
why does old mate in the thumbnail look like he is standing at the GE
why it look like she standing at the GE in the thumbnail?
Feeling nervous with a bunch of Chinese phones in my hand
intersting
Piracy og right to work
Care the bad acts of anyone but specially care the bad acts of an authoritarian regime.
Wow ! A Zionist was involved here as well...
Gotta respect the hustle tho
@anandvenkatraman8983
11 ай бұрын
Facts
@akamal92
11 ай бұрын
No
@vuufke4327
11 ай бұрын
@@akamal92 you don't get the grindset homes
😮
Nice
Omg
It wasn’t clever to leave the paperwork open on the desks overnight was it?
This will be a great Netflix movie
You shouldn't do anything with Chinese...period.
ok fed, as if am*rican corporations don't regularly do espionage
@Look_What_You_Did
11 ай бұрын
They don't.
@jacekmakes
4 ай бұрын
@@Look_What_You_Did how naive of you...
It was Amir, he had an in with Copenhagen!
I’m just trying my
They way the voice when you read the Huawei letter at last. You changed the voice to a Chinese lady reading English 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Too short. Hardly any details explanations.
Are there any large Chinese companies not closely connected to the central government?
@jacekmakes
4 ай бұрын
could ask the same about USA...
And people don't think Tencent or Alibaba spies on the outside world LOL
Remember kids, switch off your Alexas and leave your boardrooms tidy, work desks without notes... If you can't, close the window blinds and switch off the light.
Dov Goldstein now works for Telenor.....
Big Tech companies in the US are not collaborating with NSA, CIA, ?
@jacekmakes
4 ай бұрын
they absolutely do, people who say otherwise are hopelessly naive...
Worth asking if it’s a bug or a feature for Huawei to spy and figure out Ericsson’s bid before the decision.
@mikeboate208
11 ай бұрын
Ericsson’s spies were doing what ?
this thumbnail looks like the grand exchange
It’s all about “Unrestricted Warfare”
And ? It's an common practice. Same like US spying on the German GOV, or it's the same practice in Car industry.
@sblbb929
11 ай бұрын
"... so stop talking about it bloomberg!!!" Is that your message here? Stop talking about espionage because other cases exist. But you only know of them because people talked about it, right?
Wes Anderson vibes
Dov Goldstein: say no more! ! !🤣🤣🤣
If a Chinese company said they did nothing wrong, you can absolutely believe them. /sarcasm
@jacekmakes
4 ай бұрын
if it was American company instead, would you say the same thing?
@scarffracker1918
4 ай бұрын
@@jacekmakes Any for-profit company cannot be trusted to put ethical behavior ahead of profits. There are plenty of examples of American companies that are similarly morally bankrupt. I'm not familiar with the intricacies of American and Chinese law but my gut tells me the Americans probably have more robust protections against bad behavior than the Chinese do.
This is the comment about the RuneScape ge thumbnail
ah, yes.... watching this on a Huawei smartphone 🙈😂😂
The real power players in the world today are the Mega Corps, and its only going to get worse. Benito Mussolini said “fascism should more correctly be called corporatism, because it is the perfect merger of state and corporate power” well that fairly accurately describes our current environment in the west, where corps have carte blanche and effective immunity to employ these tactics.
Holy cow.... And I wanted to buy huawei phone!
@jacekmakes
4 ай бұрын
holy cow, do you actually believe that only huawei spies on people? lol...
'highest standard' coming from Huawei is rich
Thank you, my next phone will be hauwei
@kensaiix
11 ай бұрын
asking out of sheer curiosity, did the above vid influence your decision? and if yes, how?
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
for some reason this video cannot be shared to Facebook.. i have tried numerous times and it always comes up with 'cant be shared'
@JKold
11 ай бұрын
can someone else confirm that?