Learn more 👉 How a Cocaine-Smuggling Cartel Infiltrated the World’s Biggest Shipping Company: www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-12-16/how-world-s-top-shipping-company-became-hub-for-drug-trafficking

@torethyen3893

Жыл бұрын

Learn more about how Prohibition is a giant failure that needs to be abolished!

@mackenziedick1903

Жыл бұрын

tar rather then tea other molecules not as easily come by

@mackenziedick1903

Жыл бұрын

chances are they are looking for the alkaloids

@SolitonHedgeFundcom

Жыл бұрын

A

@alanhat5252

Жыл бұрын

The instant you make something illegal there's a whole bunch of people looking for ways to bypass the law & if they have customers for their newly-illegalized goods they *_will_* succeed in bypassing the law. Where law-enforcement officers & politicians are customers it becomes pretty difficult to stop. The alternative is to regulate & tax it. This will initially bring the market price down but taxes can be increased & increased till the market looks for alternatives.

they are opening 1.5% of containers and still finding a decent amount of drugs imagine how much drugs are getting through

@xenuburger7924

Жыл бұрын

Simple math says they intercept less than 1% of drug traffic. If we multiply by the amount of drugs they claim to intercept, we have to assume that people are using lots of drugs. Drug enforcement agencies actually work as indirect profit centers meant to keep drug profits high.

@noammichael5592

Жыл бұрын

@@xenuburger7924 How does the DEA increase profits? I understand if seizing drugs would lower the supply and increase prices but that is an increase in revenue not profits. Fighting these agencies are the #1 expense for cartels thereby decreasing profits.

@greezythumb

Жыл бұрын

@@noammichael5592 1 ton of coke can profit 35-40 million. There are multiple tons in a load on multiple ships seven days a week, around the clock. It's not an expense. Money to fight law enforcement is no more than putting a few bucks in a tip jar. They spend far more on security against rival cartels, crooks and bribes.

@simrdownmon6431

Жыл бұрын

Both the DEA and the Cartels depend on the drug war to survive. End The Drug War NOW!!!!

@jellyrun1

Жыл бұрын

98,5%...?!

Many forget that MSC originates from Naples where the Camorra rules. MSC has been called Maffia Shipping Company by many people inside ports for probably 40 years.

@ecoideazventures6417

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the full form update! It is really an eye opener for some of us

@davidbrown4540

Жыл бұрын

And those dudes dont play. I would not be surprised to learn that "cooperation" was gained by threatening family members.

@flemmingsorensen1603

Жыл бұрын

MSC is a family-owned company, which was founded in Belgium in 1970 and has been headquartered in Switzerland since 1978. The company began operating with a single vessel and a single service and progressively grew through buying more vessels and bringing new services to the market.

@simrdownmon6431

Жыл бұрын

Both the DEA and the drug Cartels depend on the drug war to survive. End The Drug War NOW!!!!

@jayo552

Жыл бұрын

YEAH THIS SHIP WAS TRACED 2 JPMORGAN & CHASE, THE REAL CROOKS

I have been a Chief Engineer in MSC and know exactly what happens. Nothing of such can happen without the involvement of the Master with his substantial cut in the payment.

@rrmackay

Жыл бұрын

Its just the privelege of the captain to be able to have plausaible deniability and claim ignorance.

@Adam-kz4bn

Жыл бұрын

self snitching

@FajarSumirat

10 ай бұрын

Did such a thing happened ocassionally (before covered up), or did it happen regularly?

@user-fx5nz7kz6b

10 ай бұрын

Between Mexican border to San Diego underground we have touched and seen more 🤣 like jay z once said.. 🤫

@bernardtheulsterman

9 ай бұрын

and I guess, as well not without the knowledge of the company management...

This was known to seafarers since a very long time. We used to call MSC the Mafia Shipping Company. Around 2012 there was this guy who alerted the US authorities about the drug that was being trafficked on his ship. The US govt rewarded him and promised him a safe passage to his home country. He went to the airport(U.S) but never reached home.

@WhyDoThat

Жыл бұрын

If true probably witness protection for him.

@cambuurleeuwarden

Жыл бұрын

@@WhyDoThat That's very naive thing to say. Hunderd percent got taken out.

@n0m1c

Жыл бұрын

"There was this guy." Cool story bro. Cute how there are zero details.

@camdt456

Жыл бұрын

@@n0m1c quit crying

@camdt456

3 ай бұрын

@@mathiasvries no i do my own research instead of relying on youtube comments to provide details or evidence lol

BS - I've sailed for 36 plus years, retiring as Chief Engineer and there is NO Way that the Captain did not know; for that matter, everyone on that vessel would have known.

@emillyyelen5169

Жыл бұрын

it depends...

@richardt3607

Жыл бұрын

You are 100% right… the whole company knows.. why else would they recruit expensive from the Balkans and not from the philippines.. how about the difference in lenght for the contracts betweetster crew and officers.. rotating crew between vessels..

@investia

Жыл бұрын

Logically, those crews arrested know the least.

@jasoncreamer5747

Жыл бұрын

Most smuggling happens with just one crew member.

@FFM0594

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they drugged his cocoa.

"The MSC Gayane is one of the biggest ships sailing the ocean today." - *WRONG* It's not even in the top 1000. "MSC are today the world's largest shipping company." - MSC might be the world's largest *container* shipping company, Maersk is however the worlds biggest shipping company. Skyler White there has all her facts straight.

@HE-162

Жыл бұрын

Relax. No one cares that much about ships.

@marko6128

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was surprised to hear that assertion, as well. I checked it to be sure and the MSC Gayene turns out to have less than half of the carrying capacity of the largest container ships out there. Hopefully the journalist will see this and be more careful with the facts in the future.

@jorgenfrohlich6954

Жыл бұрын

And MSC is not the biggest MAERSK is by far the biggest shipping Company

@the_area_enduro

Жыл бұрын

@@HE-162 fact are important especially if your a 'journalist' Skyler would hate to be labelled fake news

@marcoaponte5888

Жыл бұрын

@@jorgenfrohlich6954 by what metrics? it was a close race for a long time, but last year MSC surpassed MAERSK in terms of TEU transported

It would be nice if you make a video about the way MSC grew so quickly in the eighties and nineties. Never saw a shipping company expand and grow so quickly in such a little time.

@JOHNTITOR-kg9zj

4 ай бұрын

i give u a hint. its white and its a powder and it rhymes with rogaine

@DasMaddie

2 ай бұрын

probably took care of their employees

I recently worked with MSC who owns MS Security on these vessels. The Security on these vessels isn't what you think it is. It's more a front to let the U.S. know that MSC vessels have security guards on these ships. We don't do anything special but just sit there and be seen, no training, no certificates, security guards are mainly Greek and South Africans.

Amazing story. I’ve sailed as Captain on merchant vessels for decades, I can’t imagine any operation where the ships cranes were repeatedly used at sea that would not have come to my attention. Incidentally the eight crew arrested would be about one third of the total crew.

@edhardy7210

Жыл бұрын

There is no doubt that the Captain was not also aware.

@e-curb

Жыл бұрын

You have to sleep sometime.

@154g

Жыл бұрын

There is the small crane by the gangway on some vessels. Used maybe for liferafts

@gasboydiffa2300

Жыл бұрын

Typical captain thing to say, trust me they dont know everything thats going about on 'their' vessels

@154g

Жыл бұрын

Stern crane capt, can easily be used while the capt sleeps.

I have a hard time believing that it would be possible to pull off a loading at sea operation like that without the knowledge of the captain.

@alexandrebastarache4395

Жыл бұрын

anyone can ship anything in any shipping container on any of these ships

@jjr1728

Жыл бұрын

You need to mind your own business, Greg. Regards, from Canada.

@yeetyeet7070

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandrebastarache4395 lol

@yeetyeet7070

Жыл бұрын

@@purchiks1 lol

@yeetyeet7070

Жыл бұрын

@@jjr1728 are you all paid by the balkan gang? xD

0:50 Little Back Story to this Video. 01.01.2018, Belgrade, Serbia. On the video, a man belonging to an enemy clan is executed. He was driving the car. It is interesting to know that there was a policewoman in the passenger seat and she was not injured. More than a dozen bullets hit the man. He died on the spot.

Every interviewee has said in this video that law enforcement barely makes a dent in their operations on this protracted and futile "war on drugs", so that demonstrates it clearly is a complete waste of time and resources, not to mention the safety of those involved. 🤷‍♀

@simrdownmon6431

Жыл бұрын

Both the DEA and the drug Cartels depend on the drug war to survive. End The Drug War NOW!!!!

@decwow

Жыл бұрын

It's not a war on drugs. It never was. It's a war on small time drug dealers that aren't giving the big players the cut they want. Even busts like this are just a hiccup. You let these go from time to time to give the gullible public the impression that something meaningful is being done.

@andyb619

Жыл бұрын

Your comment is absolute rubbish. Disrupting the drug trade is essential to slowing it down. You clearly do not see the children going hungry because of drugs, the mental health impacts of drugs. It ruins families, lives, and society. We need a World War on drugs. This doesn't mean filling prisons with little guys. It means disrupting, and destroying organisational heirachy, globally.

@AnhNguyen-hn9vj

Жыл бұрын

It is a drug war. It is just not the way you think. Many countries with government sponsor drug dealing on other unfriendly countries. These other countries sponsor drug dealing back on other countries. They are selling drugs back and forth to each other unfriendly countries. lol It is just drug everywhere.

@leivinpavon9648

Жыл бұрын

@@decwow The U.S spends 150 billion on illegal drugs annually this really was just a small dent ..

All of this effort and they admit "the effect is 0".

@alexnewbold8823

Жыл бұрын

i would like to be the first to congratulate drugs on winnning the war on drugs.

@vincentanguoni8938

Жыл бұрын

@@alexnewbold8823 ouch!

@Gamer-nc8qp

Ай бұрын

they should just leagalise and tax it imho

The vast cost of the "war on drugs" simply isnt worth it

@BuckingHorse-Bull

Жыл бұрын

there is no war on drugs. Its just an excuse to militarize local police

@michaelcre8

Жыл бұрын

Nixon was a Crook. The drug war was designed to be evil. Addiction is a psychological problem similar to depression. It would be cheaper to treat it like that again. The drug war was designed to funnel immense cash flows to smugglers especially the intelligence community. That obviously sounds like a baseless conspiracy theory to most people, but anyone who knows even a little history knows that's exactly what the Iran Contra Affair was. Why would they ever stop doing that when it gives them unlimited funding for whatever they want?

@bebobism

Жыл бұрын

But what happens if you leave them alone ? . . . The drug cartels grow out of control and then what ?!

@KrisRoberts114

Жыл бұрын

@@bebobism Portugal is a fair example of what happens when you legalise drugs🤷‍♂️

@dfsilversurfer

Жыл бұрын

How much money they must spend and wasting on their war on drugs . What if they put that money into health, jobs and education..there would be less incarcerated and better off.

this is probably only a small percentage that's known about..

"We can only scan 1.5% of containers. We find tons, but it amounts to 0." Exactly. The drug war is pointless and costs taxpayer money. Legalize, regulate, tax and stop all this violence associated with illegal trade.

@Greenfield-yf1wh

Жыл бұрын

Legalization means that drug dealers would have to pay taxes. Why pay taxes when they could just continue to smuggle drugs until the gov't gvies up on chasing after durg dealers.

@dre2407

Жыл бұрын

@@Greenfield-yf1wh People would prefer to buy it legally rather than risking a huge fine or not having the quality guarantied.

@Greenfield-yf1wh

Жыл бұрын

@@dre2407 No people prefer to buy drugs cheaper. There will always be a market for that.

@juliuswolf288

Жыл бұрын

@@Greenfield-yf1wh why would u buy drugs off a drug dealer instead of buying a cleaner product for the same price off a govermantely regulated or owned business?

@Greenfield-yf1wh

Жыл бұрын

@@juliuswolf288 You are missing the point. It won't be the same prices since drug dealers will continue to smuggle drugs that won't be regulated and taxed. They will undercut the stores that would sell regulated & taxed narcoticss. There always be a market for cheaper drugs.

In 1980 cartels declared they do this. Woman in 2022: we discovered......

@augustasmateliunas9333

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@augustasmateliunas9333

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@augustasmateliunas9333

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@boobasile5935

Жыл бұрын

Right.. video games in the 80s were all about this stuff. 🤣 🤣

Only the little guys get sent to jail. Brendo (one of the biggest) got sentenced to a lifetime in Italy, then extradited to Bulgaria and went missing .. having enough money can pay off. Those salary based people can always be bought .

@vitovitovito

2 ай бұрын

Don't forget that Credit Suisse frontman got arrested for laundrying Evelin's money haha pozdravi

The most common drug smuggling is done on super yachts. Customs officials rarely check them due to worries of being sued by rich owners. The majority of these arrive in Gibraltar to fuel/unload and money is exchanged and laundered there.

@mujtabaalam5907

2 ай бұрын

How is money laundered there? What's the claimed legitimate source?

I have US MMC for Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E. I can say integrity of a ship begins with the integrity of the crew and paying them a fair wage. Hiring crew from a region in economic collapse, rife with criminal activity and corruption all the way to the top because you can pay them ¢ on the $ is a recipe for trouble. Hire crew to have a career that give them incentive NOT to risk loosing it all over engaging in these activities even if they are not caught doing it by law enforcement ie intergrity. That would be cheaper than throwing money at Gestapo security. Mark Fay MMC Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E

@filipvlahek3515

Жыл бұрын

Tru dat

@srambrero

Жыл бұрын

thinking that organized crime and corruption is somehow linked just to countries and sailors on boats from economically weaker regions is naive....there is no money ship crew can get paid that aint gonna seem like peanuts compared to drug money, plus these sailors get forced and blackmailed into doing this, its not like the mafia just asks them nicely and stops their operations and leaves if they say no...dont be naive

@karenfay4545

Жыл бұрын

@@srambrero having been a professional Merchant Marine mariner far and away this happened where the crew permitted this to go on aboard. I even had it happen on a US Navy Frigate I was on in the 70s until an honest E3 sailor became aware of a peer’s Tai Stick smuggling scheme with the Collusion of the E6 Master at Arms and told the Captain. If I had become aware of it I would have done the same thing. I have seen merchant crews from mostly smaller lines with crews using MSC crewing policies and foreign jails are full of them. BTW MSC also stands for the US Navy Military Sealift Command, the 2 should not be confused.

@AdamFreeman-ix6ez

Жыл бұрын

Can you answer in more detail?

@karenfay4545

Жыл бұрын

@@AdamFreeman-ix6ez what details are you looking for? Mark Fay MMC Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E

All the money it costs to police drug trafficking, plus the related crime costs, and health costs, and welfare costs... It'd be cheaper for govts to buy all the drugs straight from the traffickers.

@4Everlast

Жыл бұрын

😂👏 Well CIA was selling it in the 70-80's, you think other governments aren't doing that? We're being F in every way.

@usmans9274

Жыл бұрын

so whats your solution for drugs?

@alethiosoratos5455

Жыл бұрын

You are missing the real benefits to the elites. The additional crime justifies having a large militarized police force and it justifies unconstitutional laws like RICO, search, and seizure laws. This creates a standing army that can be turned on the people on a moments notice. IT IS ABOUT CONTROL.

@MrOlgrumpy

Жыл бұрын

@@usmans9274 Like some sensible countries,maximum penalty,capital punishment !! no repeat offenders.

@mustangracer5124

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure most get a big cut of the action

First she said the fine was $1000 per once and then she said the fine is $1000 per kilo. Get your story straight!

@somethingsomething404

Жыл бұрын

Right is it 18M or 600 million lol

@sondrejohansen48

Жыл бұрын

@@somethingsomething404 20 tonne is not 20 kilo…

@somethingsomething404

Жыл бұрын

@@sondrejohansen48 true, I realized that shortly after then couldn’t find the comment to fix it. 18M roughly then

@jeremiasrobinson

Жыл бұрын

@@somethingsomething404 The excessive exaggeration goes well with the theme of this thread though, so, 600 million is perfect!

@JJRossi

Жыл бұрын

I came on to make the same comment about the ounce-kilo lol. Kinda a big difference :p

No one talks about how much of the confiscated drugs go back into the market via the anti-narcotics authority themselves

“Of course, I’m not even Greek”

@dinow1990

Жыл бұрын

Years after the wire taps the Greek is still in business

@philippetrounev611

Жыл бұрын

Nothing changed 😂

@gramozgashi

Жыл бұрын

Albanian

@BatkoNashBandera774

3 ай бұрын

Slovene@@gramozgashi

@funksioni1689

3 ай бұрын

They were albanians oo amigo

In the shipping community MSC has always been known as the Mafia Shipping company

@randyhome1544

Жыл бұрын

Just look at it as natural selection. Not everyone uses drugs.

@jewslikefunk

Жыл бұрын

Really? And why hasn’t there been unanimous consent among nations / regulators to take action on them?

@julaingallimore7152

Жыл бұрын

. KC Lawyer Roberson has Written a Book about the Vatican Banking industry ,, The Vatican Bank has a history of Corouption and it's male staff are protected by Diplomatic immunity ,, has seen on TV . Don't ask me Google the TRUE FACT Yousef ,, in my opinion and belief.

@bootcizme1124

Жыл бұрын

You beat me to it 🤣

@raimondsstokmanis1892

Жыл бұрын

@@jewslikefunk Because they are in on it.

Plot twist: Biggest shareholder of MSC is JP Morgan and probably world of finance is financed by drug money.

@BuckingHorse-Bull

Жыл бұрын

the 2008 market crash. The only way we survived it was because of drug money

@scottheaton8469

Жыл бұрын

Further plot twist: shipping is very vulnerable to bureaucracy, as the lockdowns taught us. Someone can profit from slowing it down. This is likely being played both ways.

@vanpallandt5799

Жыл бұрын

Finance involves trillions daily moving..drugs trafficking is big but not bigger than the global licit economy

@birarakisarap

Жыл бұрын

@@vanpallandt5799 yet it can provide you a lot of money if you are in margin call.

@vanpallandt5799

Жыл бұрын

@@birarakisarap there was a world of finance before drugs came along for most of globe in 70s. The problem for a lot of LE ppl is they have no idea of the size of the ocean that financial movements take place in..hence anyone with a big house or a sports car must be involved in crime etc *btw i have neither

Best video I’ve watched on YT for a looooong time! This was so interesting.

"We take narco trafficking seriously" "We seriously make millions from it each year" MSC

It’s almost as if a legalized, regulated drug market would be the only safe way to successfully fight this problem.

@richardponsford5147

Жыл бұрын

If only.

@russell6075

Жыл бұрын

That would make to much sense

@Turdfergusen382

Жыл бұрын

Then how will we fund our wars. Not like to public gonna support them

@chrisr4220

Жыл бұрын

The argument against this says if these players are already acting illegally now, they won’t act legally if made legal. I’m sure they said the same thing about the legalization of alcohol - try telling that to the $1.5 trillion dollar industry now.

@RyTrapp0

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisr4220 re: alcohol prohibition - we've already been there, done that, we know how it goes

What is quite telling about today’s drug issue is that, while the US Government is going the quick and easy way of seizing a large asset from a company, nobody is tackling the real problem of drug producing and usage. Which means nothing will change. MSC will book a $100 M loss, and smugglers will carry on with their business.

@SPACECOWBOY_Hej

Жыл бұрын

Its a geopolitical question, the US government doesn't have jurisdiction in other countries, and if other countries have weak, incompetent or corrupt cops then what are they gonna do? Invade? pay another country for their policing? like come on

@jeanlefranc3817

Жыл бұрын

@@SPACECOWBOY_Hej send the CIA and get the job done.

@ryurazu

Жыл бұрын

700 million fine as well

@ivanhere6292

Жыл бұрын

war on drug is a lucative business for the US they are not in thier best interests too solve the root of the evil ..really when there is no demand there is no supply ..

@Thegerceklershow

Жыл бұрын

How do you think your government officials with a salary of 1 milion a year, go to having 400 milion a year wealth while in office. Organised crime just does the dirty work of your government my friend. Where your government cant be seeing doing things.

Belize central america I'm from and 1 thing i know is that the WAR on DRUGS is a lost battle because too much drug consumers worldwide and too much hard core distributions

4:35 He's saying it no filter nor mince words, respect to the honesty

I used to work at the Port of Houston as a cargo puller/checker, primarily loading cargo vessels. It wasn't too uncommon to have a vessel's loading process "frozen" until the DEA or Port Authority performed a random search bc of anomalies in an x-ray or a tip from an informant.

@154g

Жыл бұрын

Does every incomming container get xrayed? If so, why would they try if so?

@samplastik13

Жыл бұрын

@@154g as stated in video, most of containers aren't

@dmd2030

Жыл бұрын

@@154g 1%

@vanpallandt5799

Жыл бұрын

@@154g most ports have one x-ray machine..used for both in and outbound..a singke vessel can be discharging 100s or more containers esp at final port on its voyage

@luismontes4142

Жыл бұрын

Gta online sell MC product.

16:08 - 20 tons * $1,000/oz (and not "per kilo" as mistakenly said) is $640 million.

@whatta7793

Жыл бұрын

Not getting sold by the ounce though. Probably more like $15k per kilo wholesale, then sold down again for $30k per kilo, and then that's when it gets cut, and sold by the ounces to the smaller street dealers. Cartel Distributors Street Dealers Low Level Street Dealers, if you buy from this source, chances are you're getting product around 50% pure if you're lucky, and paying the biggest premium around $100 a gram, and/or around $250 an eight ball, when you can probably get PURE product in the country of origin for $2-10 a gram depending on your connection in the country of origin.

@Chrissmills

Жыл бұрын

@@whatta7793 in Australia it’s $350/gram and lucky to get it at 40%

@desmond-hawkins

Жыл бұрын

@@whatta7793 This is about the fine, not the sale of drugs. A kilo where I live goes for $27k-$30k, or so I heard. If you buy a single gram it'll be more like $80.

@EvolveFiRE

Жыл бұрын

Usually, some journalists May round the number out, to make it easier on the ears and to remember, rounding up or down.

@j4sho748

Жыл бұрын

@@Chrissmills holeeeey

Amazing how this Belgian customs officer is the spiting image of the actor Martin Ferrero, who played the role of Izzy Moreno in Miami Vice. Even his voice sounds alike.

These massive companies have massive infrastructure and systems in place to manage cargo, staffing and logistics. If they all risked a $600m US fine per ship, the solutions would be found pretty quickly.

So the captain wasn't involved as he was mostly on his tea breaks while docking the ship in the middle of the sea at night. Hmmm that sounds credible

@rightbehindu571

Жыл бұрын

Next time drink black coffee throughout the day instead of a lousy tea and cookie break lol

@greezythumb

Жыл бұрын

Tea breaks in the middle of the night? I sleep in the middle of the night. I'm willing to say the captain probably does also. Sure he could have been in on it, he may not have been on it. It's not needed for him to be in on it for it to get done.

@AB_Deck

Жыл бұрын

@@greezythumb he was being facetious duh

@jfbeam

Жыл бұрын

There was no "docking". A smaller boat came along side and the crew hoisted drugs onboard. The ship did not slow down or change course. Unless you were on the bridge, or near where this was happening, you'd never know about it. (The captain has to sleep, too.)

@itsmewill8725

Жыл бұрын

@@jfbeam or have the plausible denied ability to denie you was evolved, I.e. I am the captain I have to sleep some time 😇

Every Balkan person, watching this video to see if their country gets mentioned

@dennynikaj

Жыл бұрын

Montenegro is doing this, wow.

@naopak6750

Жыл бұрын

Actually its Albanians from Albania and Kosovo doing all that. Montenegro just provides some logistics.

@dennynikaj

Жыл бұрын

@@naopak6750 it is Montenegro, and Montenegrins as the video said, also the Montenegrin boxer, do not make things up!

@artimkalash3347

Жыл бұрын

@@naopak6750 it’s Albanian, it’s Serbs, it’s Romanians, they don’t really care about Nationality anyways

@jerrydrake4652

Жыл бұрын

strange that only one person is mentioned ... wonder what is the nationality of other 7?? Anyone wanna guess ...

Great job reporting this story.

Amazing reporting! Absolutely riveting

I learned a lot about the shipping industry through The Wire (Best show ever) thank you wre!!!

This gets hilarious. They were fined less than 10%. Authorities seem to think there were only 8 people directly involved, and the company knew nothing. Gold!

@riskinhos

Жыл бұрын

they didn't. it's no benefit to them.

@vanpallandt5799

Жыл бұрын

Authorities think..more like what they could evidentially seek to prove

@murrayterry834

Жыл бұрын

laws do not apply to large central bankers did the product end up on the streets of Philadelphia after the federal marshals turned over custody to offset the financiers losses

@aquelpibe

Жыл бұрын

It´s not what they think, it´s what they can prove. That´s how it works. And the amount of the fine is determined by law.

@infoloopgraaf7937

Жыл бұрын

MSC was probably created for the sole purpose of smuggling.

More evidence that this sort of sophistication requires involvement of massive corporations, banks and governments to go unnoticed.

Shocking I would have never thought the shipping industry.

That was a well thought out and presented video. Thanks

What a massive waste of taxpayers money fighting drugs! Tragic

What about the U.S. Postal Service? They are used by criminals to ship drugs all the time. Aren't they culpable like the U.S. government says MSC is, in this case?

@An_Attempt

Жыл бұрын

The US post is highly protected legally. It has a long history of not opening letters or packages in transit to maintain the trust of the citizenry.

@alcoyne3333333333333

Жыл бұрын

Agree I've always said the US mail is shipped drugs daily

@bujfvjg7222

Жыл бұрын

@@An_Attempt moot point...

@BuckingHorse-Bull

Жыл бұрын

drug money is not going anywhere. to much money to be made to dissolve

MSC forgot to pay the CIA their cut :(

18:26 ... pretty fair point

This was very interesting, great piece of content here.

"The definition of insanity is: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." ~ Albert Einstein The war on drugs has failed! Prohibition doesn't work! Legalize it!

When I was in Iquique, Chile, 4 years ago there were groups of guys getting ready round small boats as the sun set to go out and do a "bit of fishing" but they rarely seemed to catch much, though they did have some cash to spend in the bars but they lived in shacks. Pretty sad when that is all life can offer, and dangerous too.

@predragnicic7138

Жыл бұрын

Those Montenegro guys provide Cash in 90s smugling cigarets to ltalia. In city of Bar, biggest mn harbor l wach from balcony crazy fast boats coming in and out...

@AB_Deck

Жыл бұрын

@@predragnicic7138 Bari ?

@predragnicic7138

Жыл бұрын

@@AB_Deck Bar-Bari yeah, one mourning august 99 on a way to Coffee we meet group of 150-200 gipsies also from Kosovo. They told us paying to go to ltaly. Next day 75 of them lost life on open sea. Few years ago case closed. Kids, woman... There was all kind of crimes

@valideno9592

Жыл бұрын

@@AB_Deck BARI - City in Italy. BAR - City in Crna Gora/Montenegro. Both cities are coastal.

@silverianjannvs5315

Жыл бұрын

​@@predragnicic7138 do you have this kind of problems before the breakup of the Yugoslavia?

Excellent reporting!

High quality documentary. Well worth watching.

*DON'T THINK FOR A SECOND THE HIGHER UPS IN THE SHIPPING COMPANY WERE UNAWARE... LOOK INTO THEIR BACKGROUNDS AND EARLY LIVES*

@Pizzafan622

Жыл бұрын

lol no

@stargazer3364

Жыл бұрын

Wayyy higher ups. The little smuglers end up dead or in prison for life for trying to get a piece of the pie. Big brother is in control.

@nategalt5613

Жыл бұрын

Early lives? What do their lives as kids have to do with this?

@Nickfromcali

Жыл бұрын

@@nategalt5613 We're just looking for patterns

@nategalt5613

Жыл бұрын

@@Nickfromcali such as? What do their childhoods have anything to do with anything?

Legalize, regulate, tax, improve working and paying conditions for workers, improve quality for consumers, treat consumption as a public health issue. This will continue to be a futile war otherwise.

Great work!

So basically shipping companies should do the job of law enforcement agencies and bear all the expenses of it while governments collect money in fines & forfeitures from these companies when they fail to prevent drug smuggling. Yup seems fair.

@josegonzalez6004

Жыл бұрын

No but it’s there responsibility to now was getting loaded and unloaded of there ships.

@Alexander-cg1ey

Жыл бұрын

No it's not, there should be more international cooperation and shared responsibilities at every step of the way.

@tsak912

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely fair. Their ship, their containers, their contraband, their responsibility.

@RAT7163

Жыл бұрын

Haha you thought you had something there. Yea, companies should be held responsible for allowing their enterprise to be used as drug mules.

@Juggermerk

Жыл бұрын

Well you missed the part that multiple government agencies enforced the law and arrested charged and successfully locked away the criminals responsible. I don't remember the part where MSc locked anyone up for shipping drugs....must've missed that /s

Something like this will never be stopped

There is no way on earth MSC was unaware of what was going on on their vessels. These companies have always been the willful enablers for the right amount of money. On the flip side though, I think it is fair to say that to an extend, they are not responsible to confront traffickers. I do understand that once you get involved in this sort of business, they will make an offer you won’t be able to refuse.

MSC has headquarter in Switzerland So the largest shipping company in the world sits in a country with no coast. Very unsuspicious, lol.

@gnek9494

Жыл бұрын

They're based in Geneva. One of the biggest/oldest commodities trading hub in the world.

These governments are quick to charge MSC but I doubt they would hold their own port authorities to the same level of accountability.

@adblocker276

Жыл бұрын

Lots of collaborators working for the port in Antwerp were arrested in a bust.

@trevortalbot4325

Жыл бұрын

@@adblocker276 Yeah for sure, but those are just individual people. I'm talking more about cooperate entities/regulatory bodies. They charge MSC 600 million for being complicit in something they weren't even involved in because they failed to recognize it. But that US port is ultimately the one that sent those thousands of tons of drugs to Antwerp with a big bow and ribbon on it. They were the last green light and like MSC, failed to recognize the hidden cargo; by their own standards they are also complicit by failing to recognize their own American ports just sent drugs to Europe, but I don't think they are going to charge themselves 600 million dollars for their own oversights. (Even though they had many.) I'm just living in a fantasy world :)

@TheLukasDirector

Жыл бұрын

@@trevortalbot4325 Spot on. That's the US federal government for you.

@BlackHoleOfTime

Жыл бұрын

Well you see it is so much easier to act like your doing something going after the company, like they have time to go after the cartels.

i work in ports and it’s crazy i work with msc containers / see msc ships on a daily, pretty crazy knowing this shipping company is known as the “ mafia shipping company “ 😂

@jayo552

Жыл бұрын

OWNED BY JPMORGAN BUT THEY WONT SAY

@suckmeaballZ

2 ай бұрын

You'll never see your job the same again 😂

Some of these smugglers get creative.....unbelievable....It is a game of cat versus mouse. Does not seem to be possible to control it. Just amazing.

The standard should become that the shipping companies become responsible for the illegal goods. They should get crippling fines with every seizure. I am sure these companies will start solving the problems real fast.

This is like charging an airline for having a customer with drugs in his luggage. It doesn't sound fair

@verysmallcats1374

Жыл бұрын

Problem is that they've had so much time to fix it and did absolutely nothing about it

@dahasolomon7314

Жыл бұрын

@@verysmallcats1374 yeah but 7 containers out 4000. It's not the companies fault that most countries lack the infrastructure to scan all those containers. This fine wouldn't have happened to them of they where an American company.

I like how he said , it was only 7 out of 4000 containers 😅🤣😂

@okairo

Жыл бұрын

Apparently he doesn't know just how much those containers can hold, nor to smuggle decently that yes, only a fraction of the containers (7 in this case) is only going to take up a tiny fraction so it passes customs with as little issues.

@skys6655

Жыл бұрын

Like in accounting, to beat the irs, you gotta give a lil something

@simrdownmon6431

Жыл бұрын

Both the DEA and the Cartels depend on the drug war to survive. End The Drug War NOW!!!!

@BigLO-rn7rj

Жыл бұрын

@@skys6655you said it best you gotta give them a lil something that way you could do your thing however you want to

@thelmacummings425

Жыл бұрын

Sad.

I read about this. MSC said they knew nothing about the drug smuggling. How did MSC suddenly get all the money to expand their fleet so quickly? Thats what I’d be asking. Cartel investment?

What brilliant journalism

If the cops, customs agents, and even the military weren't in on it it wouldn't work. This goes all the way up to the chiefs, CEO, generals and even the president.

@bodybuilderslave7125

Жыл бұрын

What's the big guy's cut?

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

that's not true at all. but conspiracy nuts love to prattle on in the comments. the truth is the government is incompetent. always will be.

as long as supply and demand exist, there will always be drug trafficking, this will never stop.

@osbjmg

Жыл бұрын

We could just end prohibition.

It shouldn't take a genius to figure out, a company based out of Switzerland, took a short time to get to #1. Can you find the owners, not,!

Technology should be updated so the scanning can happen while the containers are in transit on the ships.

@lo2740

20 күн бұрын

it is not possible nor practical to scan containers, there is just too many and it is a continuous flow, otherwise it would have been done since a long time.

Love the storytelling, production and everything in the documentary, please make more of it

So basically shipping companies are shipping drugs 😂 who would of thought

@yourlifestyleelevated2015

Жыл бұрын

Same thing here. If they knew about this one, the bigger ones were NOT caught.

@bryanlr

Жыл бұрын

@@yourlifestyleelevated2015 facts

@Lucasxd331

Жыл бұрын

@@yourlifestyleelevated2015 but they can't risk using this shipping method for a while now, that's how it works. Drugs will find their way through other means for a couple of years until this case cools down enough and they can use MSC's ships again.

@dostijem5118

Жыл бұрын

all big companies doing something illegal behind the scenes and the success its always there u can't be successful if u don't cheat to ur best friends or family even if u sell drugs

@BuckingHorse-Bull

Жыл бұрын

@@Lucasxd331 its the same thing for legit companies after thier suppliers reaise prices.

This just basically shows that no matter what you do to forbid something, the black market will go to unimaginable lengths to provide it, and that there is nothing that can be done against it, but one thing: Legalizing the forbidden substance. Just like alcohol prohibition... The solution is in plain sight, although the implementation can be quite difficult since its with many substances and the potential dangers for the population by making this decision. But even arguing that, someone that wants to consume, will go lengths to consume.

Great piece, happy to see my friends at Bloomberg killin' it! Love the quick aspect. As intrigued as I was, I don't want to hang around for an hour (for anything) 😂

So next time an US shiping company would be found out to transport tons of cocoain it will be ok for EU law enforcement to fine them with millions. Got it.

@MrSupergibs

Жыл бұрын

Yeah right... somehow there's only one country whose law has an uneven reach around the world.... yep, you know!

@mig7290

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. The world's sheriff. They're even entrapping African and Caribbean officials in far fetched trafficking schemes that would never have happened. Always the same modus operandi. Colombian DEA CIs who can walk the walk who entice them. Like they got Vitkor Bout.

@mikegaskin5542

Жыл бұрын

US doesn’t have any shipping companies

@kuebby

Жыл бұрын

You're posting like European nations are upset about this...

@kinngrimm

Жыл бұрын

@@kuebby My thought was rather coming from thinking of times when european nations tried to actually go against US companies criminal actions and were shut down. So with this now, should make that more acceptable in the future, right?

Brilliant. Fabulous production, coverage and analysis. A riveting story; this is just the preface I think, to perhaps a whole new era in shipping in general and large TEU carriers in particular. Drug lords - versus high tech crime fighters... to be continued.

@raylopez99

Жыл бұрын

Check out the book "Dead in the Water" on a true story involving the Greek mob and insurance fraud.

The biggest problem is that drugs are still illegal. So much money goes into those operations but it will never stop the use of drugs. Drugs are so spread throughout all layers of society. Also it shouldnt be the task of any government to decide what im allowed to put into my body or not.

@evancrosley2857

8 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more.

Could they not mount some form of x ray device that scans the container- to the lift of the cranes when moved from the exiting port to ship, and ship to arrival port? Taking x-rays images to overlay Maybe include some A.I that can detect differences between the images and flag them for human inspection?

Likewise, If a crew from a commercial airline company was caught importing drugs, would their plane be seized? I don't think there's a carrier who hasn't encountered this problem in the past. Taking an aircraft under forfeiture laws seems pretty extreme to me.

@cyrilio

Жыл бұрын

It is and should be illegal. Forfeiture laws are inhumane.

@alcoyne3333333333333

Жыл бұрын

If that happened half the police cars in the US would be Seized for transportation of drugs 👍

@honkhonk8009

Жыл бұрын

@@alcoyne3333333333333 bro confused the US for mexico

@vanpallandt5799

Жыл бұрын

@@cyrilio it is legal and should be done more. Companies should be made more responsible. Given the way that drugs groups work, forefeiture etc is often the only effective tool as obtaining direct evidence to have a criminal trial can be nigh on impossible

@vanpallandt5799

Жыл бұрын

@@alcoyne3333333333333 thats transportation in course of LE activity..just as a police or customs officer can be in posession of drugs or paedophile material lawfully in the execution of their duties

Put a tracker on the container and see where it leads to. I wonder why they open the container immediately. Strange story

@pedclarkemobile

Жыл бұрын

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush... Once the container leaves the jurisdiction, law enforcement from other countries need to be involved and at short notice, it's hard to organise an operation.

@OmmerSyssel

Жыл бұрын

The strange issue is you.. Containers are very well tracked and handled. It's the sheer amount of containers daily handled, making it impossible controlling the load of every single box. Next to that, every single container in the world has its own identity number, and is tracked wherever it's transported.

@philippetrounev611

Жыл бұрын

Police had to show results so they gave it up. Otherwise it would be business as usual

@freddiejones4598

Жыл бұрын

Too much paper work for the police

@illyrian9976

Жыл бұрын

They usualy switch the load pretty quickly, often times the container doesn't even leave the port.

Fascinating!

Fines have no effect as long as container lines can name their price and pass any loss on to the shipper (and thus the consumer). I would argue it actually has the opposite effect because the increased container shipping rate or surcharge will have some element of profit built in.

Can’t wait for the Mob Reporter to do his version of this case! That fella knows what he is doing!

@xxalmightyxx2304

Жыл бұрын

Let me tell you about it. It all started with.....🤣

"It's a really really hard problem to solve" Only if we ignore what's causing the problem in the first place: drug laws. Legalize it. Legalize all of it.

@Changing-Times

Ай бұрын

big pharma wouldnt allow it, what layoff half of enforcement think about it, its an industry

Imagine all the time effort and money that could be saved if the govt legalized drugs.

@mikevarga6742

Жыл бұрын

In USA we had legal drugs just a few years ago. Basically anyone could go to a pain clinic and get scripts of opioids. This didn’t end well. Given the choice people will throw their lives away fir a blue pill. And everyone in the society pays the price as well. So I’m not sure if legalization is the answer. I’d say make possession a misdemeanor. It’d help more

@seadkolasinac7220

Жыл бұрын

@@mikevarga6742 depends on the drug

@RyTrapp0

Жыл бұрын

@@mikevarga6742 lol, no, prescription drugs are not "legal drugs" in this context. Stop it. Christ.

@TomTom-xp2jb

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!! We need to copy the Portugal model. Take the profit out of illicit drugs and drug barons will disappear.

@logosfocus

Жыл бұрын

its decriminalization that we need, it takes away the violence that comes with any illegal trade 🚷

As long as something is ILLEGAL and 20 percent of the population uses them, they will never be able to stop it. There is just too much money involved for an average person to not risk it. People are going to do what they want if it's illegal or not. When has that ever stopped making money?

17:22 They are not at fault. Is what you're saying is they need to do the police work. That they should spend boat loads of money on keeping drugs out (making all shipping more expensive or get under cut). That they should say no to mafia and risk their families. It's quite interesting that some people think the war on drugs is winnable.

@ReaperKing705

Жыл бұрын

yeah, they admitted that the government cant process and check all the loads but somehow MSC must be able to do so? ridiculous...

@small3687

Жыл бұрын

@@ReaperKing705 it's a reasonable expectation. They are one shipping company and they need to be responsible for what's on their ships. They are also only responsible for their ships. The government is responsible for spot checking ALL ships. MSC is probably in bed with cartels and making death and destruction possible. I mean how hard is it to lock the crane out from operation at night? You mean to tell me their systems don't log anything like hours of operation? I think a lot of drugs can be decriminalized and regulated and people should be better educated on them. MSC needs to pay for their part in violated the country's laws.

@hmalik5232

Жыл бұрын

@@small3687 How are they responsible for ‘death and destruction’? It’s just coke, not nuclear warheads😂.

@ReaperKing705

Жыл бұрын

@@small3687 yeah you right, MSC should impose reasonable measures to reduce risk but you cant scan every single container that will restrict supply lines and certain items such as food etc as they cant be stagnant for a long period of time. end of the day for drug smugglers there will always be another way, another ship another port. This is just a symptom of the issue, if USA wanted to resolve this issue they would be taking an approach such as how Portugal has handled its drug problem, That is a construction solution as you mentioned. Seizing ships, no no... soon you going to have shortages because no1 will be willing to import stuff to you in fear of losing ships. That's my prediction.

@RyTrapp0

Жыл бұрын

@@small3687 "it's a reasonable expectation" LOL, sure, if you don't know anything about shipping I guess maybe it is...

The US and Western countries should focus more on the Chinese shipping industry and Fentanyl

@gorangajo8543

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but there is an issue, that is not PC 😄

@Robert-yl8rq

Жыл бұрын

They will just claim you're racist. We will in a clown world.

@alanfoix9911

Жыл бұрын

Joe's crime family is making to much money from China to stop

@cinder7183

Жыл бұрын

Don't think for a minute Biden and his crew is leaving the border wide open for just illegal votes. Cartels are rewarding him handsomely for looking the other way. That's how he got so rich.

@georgewilder7423

Жыл бұрын

You sound so concerned, your kids must using the stuff!

There are countless ports in Europe where the goods come in. And people in the ports are in on it. What would you do if you get a visit one day and basically have to decide between a bullet or getting rich. So they knwo which containers they have to pass through, completely avoiding any security system. They need to get rid of human intervention in the ports

If you can only scan ~1% of containers, then illicit shippers only need to send less than 1% of their cargo per container per batch to avoid a 1% loss on their cargo.

That woman needs to get her history rights. The spice trade happened several centuries ago, not a century ago. And the breakup of Yugoslavia happened about 80 years after the Balkan wars.

Thanks for posting. It certainly makes you think about the sheer quantity of cartel product being shipped around the globe 24/7 and how the authorities cannot possibly check everything because they're simply overwhelmed by containers and without snitches we probably wouldn't know the half of it. Also, under US drug laws they can keep the assets like cars, guns, shipping containers and whole ships if it's part of a drug bust, so MSC will probably lose the vessel.

@modtwentyeight

Жыл бұрын

Price of doing business - make it up in a month.

@greezythumb

Жыл бұрын

@@modtwentyeight if not a week

@simrdownmon6431

Жыл бұрын

Both the DEA and the drug Cartels depend on the drug war to survive. End The Drug War NOW!!!!

@jayo552

Жыл бұрын

ITS OWNED BY JPMORGAN, THEY DOIN A GREAT JOB OF NOT MENTIONING IT

@petergambier

Жыл бұрын

@@jayo552 it's amazing how much those tossers got away with, especially Mr Richard Fuld, aka, the Gorilla. This former investment bank CEO hated people so much he even had his own lift to take him to his top floor office.

There is no way to stop smuggling of illegal goods. The lure of big money screws with any security you can have. You can curtail it, but never stop it.

The real question is why more and more people are using drugs. Supply and demand. But why is the demand rising...

@Changing-Times

Ай бұрын

why, you live in a vacuum

@Michael.Virtus

Ай бұрын

@@Changing-Times apparently it's time for you to learn what is the meaning of a "rhetorical question", which is noted by the lack of a question mark.

I'm sure when they find drugs it's not by the organization that's controlling the drug trade but by anyone else that is trying to get in on the market

"We do not have the infrastructure to scan all the containers". That sounds like whoever decides which containers get scanned is taking home an extra paycheck.

@clownworld5474

Жыл бұрын

You don't say

@charlessmith3940

Жыл бұрын

Lol they don’t. No port can scan everything. They don’t have the time, man power, or technology to scan every shipping container. They ended up catching the ship in this story from a tip. Expecting them to scan every container, every time would be like saying a train needs to scan every inch after each stop along it’s route. It’s impossible.

@pvdppvdp6638

Жыл бұрын

There is not a single port in the world that has the means to scan EVERY container going through.