Into the Spider-Verse vs. No Way Home
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That0therGeorge discusses/compares both 'Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse' and 'Spider-Man: No Way' to arrive at a conclusion on which one is the gold standard when it comes to storytelling.
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Wake up babe ThatOtherGeorge uploaded
Good to see you back.
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Plenty more to come soon.
I think what would've been a cool idea for no way home would be to have scorpion showing up when peter and strange are attempting to cast the spell and he's the one that twarts it instead. It would solve the Dr strange character assassination and actually have the scropion reveal have some relavence, and also have it still be more far from home conquences
@That0therGeorge
7 ай бұрын
I understand your point, but to be honest I'd much prefer a whole film with Scorpion. Marvel have completely wasted the talents of Michael Mando, I hope they do something with him one day.
The return of the king,ThatOtherGeorge
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Franky. Good to be back, I very much underestimated how long this project would be haha.
@thatguyfranky1981
Жыл бұрын
@@That0therGeorge good projects take time and we get busy sometimes. It just makes me happy you finally uploaded since you were a big part of my video essay journey
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
@@thatguyfranky1981 Thanks dude, I appreciate that a lot!
21:05 that so subtle cut to no way home made me laugh 😂
@That0therGeorge
7 ай бұрын
Haha I'm glad you liked it!
@matthewisguy7336
7 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge Yeah I did :)
"There's gotta be a black Spiderman somewhere" Yeah, in a better movie I honestly hoped that they'd go "Sorry, no rights for old Spidermen. You get Miles"
@jessicapinkman-xm2eg
Жыл бұрын
you're not funny
@andreymontag
Жыл бұрын
@@jessicapinkman-xm2eg I am fully serious. Miles is the best Spiderman in a good while
@agbaya5314
Жыл бұрын
@user-pj1cz8mi5e you're not wrong mate. I've hated every marvel spiderman movie. Very bad character and an ever worse spiderman. Across the spiderverse is now my favourite spiderman movie. Then spiderman 2 then into the spiderverse. I'll take all of andrew Garfield's spiderman movies and leave no way home, home coming and far from fucking home in the trash they belong
No Way Home is just pure fanservice, not necessarily anything wrong with that but it's kind of a calculated sacrifice that people who haven't seen the previous movies won't get much out of it
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more! I'm really happy that people enjoyed it and I do think there is value to be found in seeing all 3 characters together. Unfortunately, I just don't think it's as substantive as a lot of people believe it to be. And like you said, people who haven't seen the previous movies are unlikely to get anything out of it - Spider-Verse has to establish all it's characters in a much shorter runtime. Yet, it does it far better in my opinion.
@0deadx21
Жыл бұрын
And I suppose people are gonna get Spider-people who don't have movies of their own for people to connect with before hand? They're just fanservice decor, they're not proper characters.
George WELCOME BACK DUDE!!! So happy for this video as it shares the 2 biggest Spider-Man movies EVER! Honestly, seeing your comparison between Spider Verse and No Way Home is just awesome! Honestly, it is hard to decide between the two films since they are very strong adaptations. Between the two, Spider Verse has less continuity errors compared to No Way Home mostly since Spider Verse has its own cinematic environment. Spider Verse is indeed one of the most perfect Spider-Man films ever which is why it absolutely deserves the praise! 🙌 But, I deeply love love LOVE No Way Home more haha. Despite some of the plot holes and continuity errors the film had, No Way Home had to carry multiple films from the MCU and other alternate franchises from Tobey and Andrew. It even resonated with audiences much more since Tobey, Andrew, and Tom have been Spider-Man for a long time and have inspired many childhoods for 20 years. No Way Home definitely built many bridges among Tobey and Andrew's films in making their stories extremely connected to Tom Holland's environment in the MCU. They also show how each of the Peter Parkers were relatable in different ways which made Tobey, Andrew, and Tom seem more like brothers than they really are 🥲 I love both films very very much but I honestly love No Way Home just because we got to see all 3 live action Spider-Mans in ONE MOVIE!!! Thanks for this analysis George!
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mac! Yeah as I said in the video, I think Spider-Verse definitely benefits from a blank canvas. And I totally understand why you and so many other people love No Way Home more - it is such a fun movie and I can't deny how much enjoyment I get from it despite my criticisms. Thank you again Mac, I always like seeing your input whenever I upload these analysis videos.
Excellent video. I do agree with Into the Spider-Verse ia my preferred pick of the two. I enjoyed its story and that animation! No Way Home is good and I understood your points on it. I still enjoyed it, but do understand those points you made and they do make sense. Overall, I enjoyed the video. Good video to start off my weekend
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Hello there, thank you very much dude - I always like seeing your comments here. I really enjoyed NWH as well, I just feel like the flaws with it are quite glaring. I can totally see why it's such a crowd pleasing film, but as you implied, it's not as well made as Spider-Verse. Thanks again!
@superkid801
Жыл бұрын
@@That0therGeorge no problem!
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
@@superkid801 :) Have you seen any good films/shows lately?
THE MAN THE MYTH THE GEORGE
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Lmao.
I am glad I am not the only one who thought No Way Home was over rated. Honestly, that movie is garbage compared to the Spider-verse.
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
I try and avoid using the word "overrated" myself (not trying to plug, but there is a video on my channel explaining why if you're curious). But I can't disagree that Spider-Verse is a far superior version of that movie. If there other 2 Spider-Men in NWH were random actors, but everything else in the film was exactly the same - I don't believe it would be anywhere near as well received.
@mohamedaljassmy
Жыл бұрын
first of all learn how to spell overrated lol
@bossmine3997
Жыл бұрын
Its garbage compared to a whole lot of movies. Its overrated and overhyped to the extreme. People would get mad if you point out the obvious
Great video as usual. No way is home is fan service at its core and gets it right i think. Great time watching it in theatres but probably wouldnt wanna watch it again. Spider verse is definitely superior. Anyway, will we be getting another BCS video? 👀
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And yes I obviously completely agree - NWH is so much fun, but doesn't really hold up on re-watches, Spider-Verse has only gotten better each time for me. You're in luck! Next video is already scripted and it is an analysis on 'Rock and Hard Place' (the 2nd best episode of S6 in my opinion). I don't want to promise a specific date, but it will be out sometime this month. Appreciate the interest, thank you.
TOG uploads, world peace restored
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Lmao I'm happy my videos have that impact
@Krejii05
Жыл бұрын
@@That0therGeorge yeah lol, they are pretty entertaining, i rewatch lots of them like atleast 2 times minimal and notice new things
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
@@Krejii05 Thank you so much for that! I appreciate you watching even just once, but you finding re-watch value in them is really amazing to hear
Another banger
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ben, I'm glad you enjoyed.
Spider Verse tells a New story, has Incredible animation style and editing and is a superior film. NWH is good, but it's an old story watmed over....like leftovers in a microwave.
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Spider-Verse certainly has a lot more heart to it and works with our knownledge of Spider-Man. NWH is defiantly more of novelty thing, despite still be enjoyed by most (myself included)
Spider-Verse is definitely superior, there’s no ifs ands or buts about it. However, No Way Home does feel underrated by comparison and deserves a little more credit. Yes, the movie’s plot is badly written and feels like a nostalgia-fueled fan fiction, but I feel like the fanservice used was pretty effectively and helped further Tom Holland’s interpretation of the character. I didn’t feel like the references from the villains or the other Peters were that constant throughout the film and was mainly secondary to the actual plot. What I got from NWH was a flawed yet touching ride where Tobey and Andrew successfully passed the torch to Tom. Could Tom’s Spider-Man have reached the same conclusion with a different and better-written story? Oh absolutely, but I don’t think the use of fanservice didn’t derail what it was trying to achieve. Regardless of how you feel about ITSV and NWH, we can both agree that both are MASSIVE love letters to Spider-Man
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah both films treat the character with a lot of respect, we can agree on that for sure.
I personally even with all your points do disagree with some then I thought the plot was as good as into the spiderverse and that the characters were done justice and that the fanservice was used to tell a well crafted story (peter character arc from nwh was the best storytelling thought it was better than miles but not as good as peter b parker character arc
There's no comparison to be made ITSV is just a better movie!
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Definitely the better film, but there's still a case to be made for it haha
Why are comments disabled on Ralph the movie maker response video
Into the spider verse actually tried with its story, no way home didn’t.
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
I think 'No Way Home' definitely tried, I don't feel like that movie is completely devoid of talent, but I can't disagree that it's relying too heavily on the content that came before, rather than being coherent on it's terms. Spider-Verse is completely it's own thing and makes an extremely great story out of it.
@0deadx21
Жыл бұрын
Spider-verse has a story? Good one. It's just an excuse for Spider-people crossovers who are barely more than decor. They don't have their own movies, so we don't know them and we're not allowed to know them properly because they're nothing but supporting decorations for Miles. We only know him, nobody else is important.
What I think gives No Way Home a bigger inherit edge over Spider Verse for me is the fact that these are characters we've known for years so it just hits harder emotionally speaking.
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, thank you for watching and yeah I can totally see that. Have you seen 'Across the Spider-Verse' yet?
WTF is this a debate? Spiderverse is better no questions asked
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm I feel like if you look at the aggregate scores on imdb, Letterboxd etc. Some people believe they're on par. The scores don't mean anything to me really, but it's obvious that NWH is a very highly regarded film, even though I would personally agree with you that Spider-Verse is leagues better.
@NanashiSaru
Жыл бұрын
@@That0therGeorge I think people are blinded by nostalgia and the MCU brand, NWH is not very good, It literally cannot stand on its own, it needs the previous movies and the other MCU stories to make sense, kind of pisses me their scores are similar
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
@@NanashiSaru Oh yeah I don't think we disagree much at all. It's just there is definitely a debate to be had given the positions of a lot of people.
No Way Home is a hollow nostalgia trip just like the Force Awakens. A fun theater experience, nothing more really. At least No way home wraps up on a good note with hope for the future though
@That0therGeorge
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd put NWH above TFA. Mainly because of what TFA's ending leads to. But you're right that both are more banking on nostalgia than anything else. Unfortunately, financially speaking, it worked for both cases.
@adrian_veidt
Жыл бұрын
I don't think highly of NWH but it's not a disrespectful wasted garbage that is TFA
why are making this a competion spider-verse is obviously the clear winner right from the very get go no way home us still great but nothing can top spider-verse
I myself seen some holes in the story when I saw it, but bro you are nitpicking way too much. Like the issues I have seen in no way home I can do the same with other great films. I think the writing is tighter in spider-verse but I find the story in no way home is more compelling and more interesting.
This video just proves to me that you don't deserve a movie like NWH when the MCU is giving us garbage movies like Thor Love and Thunder, Doctor Strange Mom, and Eternals. It wasn't made for you, it was for true Spider-Man fans who love the character. The fact that you need to compare Spider-verse to NWH just proves to me how great NWH is because I don't see anyone trying to make a video of how NWH is great and Spdier-verse is shit. NWH > ITSV sorry not sorry
@daltonstockwell7054
Жыл бұрын
That seems a little harsh. Honestly, I don’t know which one to pick out the two.
@mangakdramagamer1153
Жыл бұрын
He doesn't know anything about spider man ignore him 😂