Watched this just to see if he got the wild signed cities around Bowling Green OH, didn't disappoint!

Honestly, this was one of the big roads I was waiting for since you covered I-20. If I-75 was this big, I'm gonna be very excited for what I-95 has in store.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Will be cool!

@adammoldover8769

2 жыл бұрын

As am I! 95, 66 and 70 are probably the 2di I drive most often

@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlCityFreak it’s longest interstate highway

@DC.402

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 I-90 is the longest interstate highway

@neoskyline2879

2 жыл бұрын

95 is very interesting northbound as you’ll get all of the Big 3 Miami metro cities while southbound is just straight up Miami from Daytona. I think Todd will like it though

I love seeing the 1100 miles to Tampa sign just outside of toledo. My friends and I drove that in May it was crazy to think about that sign when we were in florida

@dhinton1

2 жыл бұрын

the roadside signs with ATLANTA and TAMPA are awesome 😎😂

@davidneman6527

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite sign of that type: "Sacramento, Ca 3071" following the US 50 bridge west out of Ocean City, MD.

@DTD110865

2 жыл бұрын

Consequently, I'd love to see some long distance mileage signs on I-75 in Florida to places like Atlanta, Cincinatti, and Detroit.

Florida's system for numbering state highways is very simple. For 2 digits, north/south are odd numbers, east/west are even numbers and the number increase the further south you go. The major roads that go coast to coast ends in 0. The first number in the 3 digit highways increase the further south you go.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, gorcha

Appreciate the fix on Valdosta! 😅 That whole area South of Macon to Tampa is a pretty boring stretch though! Enjoyed the video!

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@scpatl4now

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlCityFreak Could be worse...they could be signing Tifton (and they used to do that).

@j.f.e.productions4098

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. My mom heard him say Valdosta wrong. I had to tell her that he corrected it

@thebandit979

2 жыл бұрын

Nah I love the section between Valdosta to Macon I love seeing all the farmland and some of the swamps

@thesharinganknight9859

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a native to the A and I hate that they sign Valdosta, like bro just make it to Macon/Tampa 👎🏾

I'm willing to bet Michigan is so reluctant to sign Detroit for most of it's run because it knows almost no one wants to go there! Also glad to see you mentioned those big mileage signs in Ohio! I've driven past those several times and I knew you'd get a kick out of them!

@DjDillPickle565

2 жыл бұрын

As a Michigander I can attest to that. The roads in Detroit alone are a reason not to stop. Side note, I went to Detroit back in October for a lions game, and yes, it was almost like no one was there.

@dvferyance

2 жыл бұрын

Flint is worse.

@mxderate

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Detroit and Flint suck. It's actually considered the worst region in the US.

@davidneman6527

2 жыл бұрын

Most of the long-distance traffic heading south from the Mackinac Bridge would not be headed to or through Detroit. Most traffic that does not split off on US 127 towards Lansing would be taking US 23 and rejoining I-75 below Toledo.

@davidneman6527

2 жыл бұрын

@@mxderate Saginaw is no great shakes anymore, either.

It feels like he recorded himself saying Valdosta and then used that voice recording for every time he says Valdosta

@andrewdiamond2697

2 жыл бұрын

Well, because he had Val-DOOS-ta in the last video.

@adawg2015

6 ай бұрын

VAL-DAWSTA

@icewingthefox9423

4 ай бұрын

Fuck Valdosta. Go Wolves!

@geraldnagytenneson

Ай бұрын

The way I think it should be Saginaw Flint Detroit Toledo Dayton Cincinnati Lexington Knoxville Chattanooga Atlanta Macon Gainesville Tampa Fort Myers Alligator Alley / Miami Miami Downtown

Atlanta and Tampa from a Ohio Mileage Sign? That’s very Cool. You can really see how Far those cities are from Rural OH.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I like those.

@M4nw1thnoname9

Жыл бұрын

I remember when they put those signs up after widening 75 a few years ago through northwest Ohio. All I could think about is if that was my commute, and having the thought of Tampa poking me on my commute home during the cold winter months, it would drive me to move to Florida!

Thanks for fixing the pronunciation of Valdosta, as a Georgian it was driving me crazy last episode

I think Macon should be a control city because it has 160K+ people

Now for the more dominant fragment of I 75 that I drove on during my 2024 summer road trip. I’m specifically going to give observations for the southbound stretch from I 10 in Lake City to I 4 near Tampa. Right away, there is a lack of symmetry between the northbound (as we’ve seen in more recent videos along or near this route) and southbound directions; all the way up in Lake City, the overhead and mileage control is Tampa, skipping over both Gainesville and Ocala. I’d prefer to see the two intermediate urban areas get some more time in the spotlight, as there’s definitely the real estate to do so, given Florida mileage signs typically only feature a secondary in the form of the State Highway or County Road that the next exit serves. However, there are also some other separate mileage signs that frequently appear on this stretch that I do appreciate, and I suspect you would too. Specifically, they highlight ‘FLTP to Orlando’ and ‘I 275 to St. Petersburg’. I could get on board with this elsewhere across the country. As for once in the immediate Tampa area, the controls are still Naples. I don’t have a problem with Naples in principle (400k metro, last services before a VERY desolate stretch of highway), but not this far north when other urban areas are still to come (950k for North Port/Sarasota, 200k for Punta Gorda, and 840k for Cape Coral/Fort Myers). In short, Naples is signed too early.

@ControlCityFreak

11 күн бұрын

Yeah I’d sign Fort Myers in Tampa. Sarasota is too close. That’s also one of my least favorite stretches to drive. Tons of traffic and zero scenery. I’d take 70 in Western Kansas over 75 in Florida any day.

honestly it makes sense why KYTC would sign Frankfort, Winchester, Richmond, and Georgetown as they all have some significant thing that would draw people to it, Frankfort is the capital, as you mentioned, but Winchester is where the Mountain Parkway begins and is the highway that connects much of far eastern Kentucky to the interstate system, Richmond has Eastern Kentucky University, and Georgetown has a Toyota plant

In case anyone is wondering for Lake City, Lake City is where I-75 intersects with US 90.

@norfolksouthernrailfan2006

Жыл бұрын

It also intersects with I 10.

@calebharper1590

Жыл бұрын

@@norfolksouthernrailfan2006 I-75 intercsects I-10 8 miles north of Lake City. Where all the eateries, lodging, etc along with getting to the center of Lake City is where I-75 intersects US 90. I-10 doesn't have much with its Lake City interchanges of US 41 and US 441.

@norfolksouthernrailfan2006

Жыл бұрын

@@calebharper1590 That's true, the I 10 exits only have a couple of gas stations and a Burger King, Huddle House and a Days Inn.

Solution for 75 coming out of Canada. Sign both Saginaw and Detroit from the start instead of St. Ignance. Problem solved.

The history of the Zilwaukee Bridge in Saginaw is a great note about 1-75

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds interesting!

My favorite part of 75 that I have been on is i75 South down in South Georgia I love seeing all the farmland and swamps

Georgia is also pretty provincial when they sign Lake Park which is the last city in Georgia after Valdosta

Valdosta! Pretty much the last chance before having to dodge Florida man.

@ControlCityFreak

Жыл бұрын

Lol

I have made the 75 drive through Florida 20+ times.. you're right it is BORING.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

It is! 10 is pretty rough too

Florida's route numbers are usually 2 digits if they go through multiple counties (FL 20, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80 for main east-west roads, and it starts at 20 from the north and goes down further south. Some of the less significant branches particularly in the rural areas (FL 46, 62, 64, 66, 72, 78 for example) go alongside the main FL 20, 40, 50 etc. roads. You'll mostly find the north-south odd-number ones along the panhandle and the east-west even-number ones along the peninsula. Now for more populated areas like near most of the coastlines, you have much more roads and they are numbered 3 digits that correspond to the nearby 2-digit main roads. Example: FL 70 starts at Fort Pierce, so north of there, most of the county and state roads are numbered in the 600s, and 700s south of there until FL 80 in West Palm Beach, where the roads are designated in the 800s. There is no FL 90, so basically the county line into Miami-Dade County is where the 900s start. Of course, throughout the state, there is some overlaps, which is why there are some 800s in Miami, a lone 700 in Fort Lauderdale (Davie Blvd is FL 736), and plenty more. With that said, I have really good memory with numbers so it's easy for me to navigate throughout FL, but for others, they have to rely on the highway names and memory. Some highway names in the video: FL 826 is Palmetto Expressway (though that's not seen from I-75), FL 836 is Dolphin Expressway, FL 924 is Gratigny Parkway, and so on.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, great info!

@jimgorycki4013

Жыл бұрын

Then there is that oddball FL 112 that goes to Miami International airport. The 100s should be in North Florida. US 41 AKA Tamiami Trail is hidden FL 90. Many of the US and Interstates in FL have hidden state road numbers. That's what the State Troopers will annotate if you ever get a ticket or get a breakdown on one of the interstate eg disable vehicle on SR 9 (which is I-95) just south of SR 810.

@Birdman5504

Жыл бұрын

@@jimgorycki4013 thats true, FL 112 definitely comes to mind with the oddball/outlier route numbers. Plus the hidden ones like US 1 is FL 5, main Turnpike is FL 91, Turnpike Homestead extension is FL 821, etc.

Drove around Atlanta last week on 20 under the runway. I flown thru ATL and never knew about the runway or taxiway over the interstate.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s pretty cool! There’s one at Ohare too

@BabyBang17datruth

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they opened it up back in 2006. But it goes over 285. I love Atlanta’s airport!

@ARUSApacecarHAMPTON

2 жыл бұрын

@@BabyBang17datruth thanks for the correction I was heading to I-20. Atlanta can be confusing.

Plus, one more thing to add: I think there should be two control cities between Valdosta and the Florida Turnpike: They should be Tampa and Orlando. I think this is because Orlando gets a lot of traffic going South on I-75 mainly because it's a popular tourist destination and is as big as Tampa. The Turnpike does connect I-75 to Orlando, so it would make sense for Orlando to be another control city in that segment.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Good point.

@scpatl4now

2 жыл бұрын

As I recall, there used to be mileage signs on 75 as you got close to the turnpike that signed Orlando. That might or might not still be the case.

@DMAN_2314

2 жыл бұрын

I agree in fact I would sign Orlando/Tampa on 75 as early as Macon if not maybe even Atlanta which it can be done unlike 95 because there's Savannah and Jacksonville before you get to I-4 and those 2 are bigger cities and there's a number of different ways you could go about it with 95 I'll talk about once we get to the 95 video.

@Garrettb214

Жыл бұрын

@@scpatl4now I was just on it a few days ago heading South and Orlando is mentioned via the Turnpike near Gainesville but that is about it. FDOT has an obsession with signing I-275 for St. Pete on the mileage signs near the GA line. I'm not sure why that is so important to them over Orlando.

@Garrettb214

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I'd argue even from Atlanta that Orlando/Tampa be signed. I'd let Macon slide but definitely Orlando/Tampa after Macon. There is arguably more traffic headed for Orlando than Tampa and like you said, they are a similar size.

A couple of those Tampa signs in Atlanta used to just say Florida.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Oh cool!

@andrewdiamond2697

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure they said Tampa, even in the 1970s, mostly. I do remember one that said Florida near the Atlanta airport though.

Timestamps: Michigan: 0:52 Ohio: 5:37 Kentucky: 8:04 Tennessee: 9:17 Georgia: 10:48 Florida: 13:56

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@mxderate

2 жыл бұрын

For a big road, I'm surprised it only goes through 6 states.

@DC.402

2 жыл бұрын

@@mxderate yea 6 large states. I live in George and from Atlanta it's 2 hrs to Chattanooga and 4 hrs to lake city

@scpatl4now

2 жыл бұрын

@@DC.402 I drive to Chattanooga (where I am from) from ATL all the time, and it rarely takes me more than an hour and a half. It is 100 miles from my house in ATL to my parents house in CHA

@mxderate

2 жыл бұрын

@@DC.402 Yeah and 95 goes through 15 states plus DC.

Florida has an interesting state highway system. It's similar to the U.S. Highway system. 1 is the same as A1A (renamed not to get confused with U.S.1), 3 is a N-S route in Cape Canaveral. 5 is U.S. 1, 7 is U.S. 441 between WPB and Miami. 9 is I-95 and they progress west. 2 runs E-W near the Georgia border, 8 is I-10, 10 is U.S. 90 (why they didn't make 10 to be I-10 is beyond me) and they progress south. 90 is U.S. 41 from Miami to Naples. 95 is U.S. 29 from Pensacola to Alabama line. Many are unsigned when conjoined with U.S. or Interstate Highways. Most 3 digit highways are short local highways with exceptions.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Seems like a lot of the freeways are 3 digit. I know a lot of states have secret routes on other highways, but it’s a shame Florida burns so many of the best numbers on hidden concurrencies

@aaronholcomb237

2 жыл бұрын

Florida 30 is concurrent with US 98 in most of the Panhandle and you do occasionally see a sign for what they call SR 30 in that area. I know that Front Beach Road in Panama City Beach was signed as a state highway but it used to be US 98A.

Atlanta at rush hour isn't as bad as just after rush hour when the traffic is going 80 mph and no one will let you change lanes.

I have to deal with the Valdosta shit every time I drive down to Florida 😂😂

10:58 right after this sign is another with control cities for 285. 285 west includes tampa as one of its control cities on that sign.

“75 meets 23” also 23: on the highway before the exit

Valdosta.

For me, southbound I-75 would've been signed as follows.: •Mackinac Bridge to Detroit -Bay City, MI | •Detroit -Saginaw, MI | •Detroit -Flint, MI | •Detroit •Detroit •Toledo, OH •Dayton, OH •Cincinnati •Lexington, KY •Knoxville, TN •Chattanooga, TN •Atlanta •Macon, GA •Valdosta, GA •Gainsville, FL •Tampa, FL •Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL •Miami

@danieljackett4193

Жыл бұрын

The final Bay City exit and the first Saginaw exit are 5 miles apart and sequential

I'm a Georgian. I think why Valdosta is assigned on I-75 mainly because it's a huge stopping ground, Valdosta State University, but also just south of Valdosta is the Wild Adventures theme park. I know a lot of people including myself from Georgia and Florida or regular I-75 travelers from the north visit that theme park a lot. I think Lake City is just there for I-10 being the big junction of people going south from I-10. I prefer I-75 and I-10 to Jacksonville so I think that's why Lake City is there.

I 85 going southbound it has a amazing control city it starts of with Atlanta

It's the Valdosta and Ocala fixes for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Cool video! 75 is a great road. Can't wait for I 85, my home interstate in South Carolina.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

85 will be cool!

The 1st city they should sign southbound is ... St Ignace, then Saginaw, then Flint

Kentucky has been working to get I-75 up to at least three lanes each way through the entire state for years, and they're just about finished (only a couple of areas near the southern end remain to be done). The difference when you are in TN and most of it being just two lanes, even when you're pretty close to Knoxville, is pretty striking, especially when you're going up Jellico Mountain and the slow trucks are taking up one of the two available lanes (or both, if one decides to pass).

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t be too surprised to see 75 3+ lanes in each direction from Saginaw to Naples eventually

I think a top 10 worst pull through/control cities of all time would be fun. Some of my dishonorable mentions.. Lake City, Florida on I 75 Limon, Colorado on I 70 Joliet Illinois on I 80 Santa Rosa, New Mexico on I 40 Breezewood,, Pennsylvania on I 70

@ControlCityFreak

Жыл бұрын

That would be fun! Not sure if Joliet would qualify, I don’t think it’s on any mainline pull throughs, just interchanges

@mxderate

Жыл бұрын

Lyman, Wyoming on I-80

75 is our main hwy in Cincinnati always construction lol we got 71 aka the Cincinnati 500 by the way drivers speed on it lol

considering how long ago 75 was shifted from going through downtown Knoxville ... I'm surprised that the 75 ramps at the 640/275 interchange haven't been rebuilt to accommodate that.

I-75 South *Valdosta*

Florida typically puts its three digit State Highways into zones, with the lower digits in the Panhandle and in the Jacksonville area, and the higher digit numbers further South, with the highest digits in the Miami area. Most toll roads in Florida are three digit state highways as well

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s probably the toll roads that throw me off. They just keep adding new ones

@nathananderson3922

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, FL-826 was derived from it's starting point being between State Route 80 and hidden State Route 90 (US 41, Tamiami Trail) on the grid. The final digit determines N-S and E-W like usual. 826 was probably considered an E-W road originally, stretching from US 441 to US 27 before being extended south along the Palmetto.

What is up with valdosta ocala being fixed? Dude you made a meme. Lol

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Awesome content man. I’m in high school and I can’t wait to get my own car so I can road trip around the U.S. Love watching your videos to see the wide variety of scenery and routes in our vast interstate system.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I hope I-99 is not your last one. Your channel deserves better. lol

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll do some 3 digit roads, international roads, and US highways

@mxderate

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlCityFreak Hawaii's Interstates?

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

@@mxderate yep

Also of note (and you can see it in the video). 75's condition in Detroit is AWFUL! It seems like the motor city would do better taking care of their interstates.

@alexjones3511

2 жыл бұрын

MDOT’s gonna MDOT. But I-75 in Metro Detroit is being redone. Oakland County is almost done with rebuilding their part of I-75, and it seems they’re planning to redo some of I-75 in Wayne County as well, saw construction barrels as far down as Hamtramck.

This used to be my home interstate until I moved out of Florida in 09, so going southbound on 75 until you get just a few miles south of Tampa always felt like coming home even to this day, and going northbound always felt like the beginning of an adventure. So yeah, I wouldn’t agree with I-75 being boring in Florida, but that’s just me. Still, it was to see this road again. Now I await eastern I-84 with great interest as since I have moved out of Florida, 84 is now my home interstate.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Will be cool!

I have no Problem of MDOT Signing the Mackinac Bridge as a Control city for either both Nᴏʀᴛʜ and Sᴏᴜᴛʜ bound.

@derekcabanaw1789

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest, there really isn't much of a choice going from Sault Ste. Marie until you get to the Saginaw/Bay City/Midland area. Actually surprised that St. Ignace was signed as a control city.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

I was too

@garybrewer1810

2 жыл бұрын

Well, St. Ignace is a big tourist destination, as well as the eastern terminus of U.S.Highway 2. So it makes sense as a southbound control point on I-75.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

@@garybrewer1810 Yeah but 2 is a diagonal at that point going the wrong way, nobody is going to drive down to St. Ignace to get it.

@garybrewer1810

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlCityFreak but the most direct access to US-2 from I-75 is at St. Ignace (unless you want to drive along several back roads that may or not be paved).

How Florida numbers its highway numbers. The one and two digit numbers follow the same pattern as US highways (in fact, all US and Interstate highways in Florida have a state highway number in this pattern, but it's only used on state documents such as work orders and construction contracts). As for three digit state highway numbers, the first digit increases from north to south with the second and third digits grouped together. The exceptions are for three digit highway numbers ending in "00", which are diagonals, and Highway A1A, which was given that number so as not to confuse it with US 1. Florida also used to color their US highway number signs so that you would follow the same color signs as you went through the state (e.g. the shields on US 1 and US 29 signs were colored red while US 98 shields were colored black, IIRC). No two routes with the same color ever intersected. USDOT wasn't thrilled with this, so they threatened to pull all highway funds from the state if FDOT didn't change to the same colors as outlined in the MUTCD. FDOT cried uncle and removed the colored shields by 2000 or so.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Great info, thanks!

@aaronholcomb237

2 жыл бұрын

I know that Florida discontinued this as of 1999 when I went there with my brother, but a part of me misses the colorful US highway signs.

I’m excited for Todd’s freakout about limon either next week or in 2 weeks

Maybe instead of Saginaw they could sign the tri city area. The Saginaw, Midland, Bay City CSA has a population of nearly 400k, making it the 5th largest CSA in Michigan behind Detroit, Grand Rapids, Lansing (not technically a CSA), and Kalamazoo. Flint is included in Detroit's CSA but Flint is also the 4th largest MSA in the state with a population also around 400k, so I think it's fine as a control city.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

I’m fine with Saginaw. I’ve never heard of tri-cities personally (at least not the ones in Michigan) so that’s probably a more regional designation. Feel like Saginaw has way more name recognition, maybe from the Simon and Garfunkel song.

@DMAN_2314

2 жыл бұрын

I'd be good with it going north. It does make for a good secondary going south although going south it should absolutely be Detroit.

I am hoping that little stub that will lead to the 401 becomes an extension of I-96. Then it would be duplexed with 75 and you could have Toledo and Toronto on the same sign pretty cool.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

That would be cool!

I can’t wait unit he do I-85, I-80, I-90 & I-95. I got a feeling Todd is gonna dogged out I-77 & I-81 through the mountain part though. 😂😂

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

The mountain parts look pretty awesome

Mod's the way it should be: Detroit, Toledo, Dayton, Cincinnati, Lexington, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Atlanta, Macon, Tampa, Miami (though I am okay with Fort Myers)

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Solid

@Joeljdwatts

2 жыл бұрын

Ft Myers had Southwest Florida’s only major intl airport, it should get signed.

@DMAN_2314

2 жыл бұрын

I'd be okay with 75 being duo controlled between Macon and the Turnpike exit since a lot of the 75 southbound traffic is going to Orlando (and probably Disneyland) so I think Orlando/Tampa is fine with me until the Turnpike exit. Otherwise looks pretty good.

@mxderate

2 жыл бұрын

@@Joeljdwatts Like I said, I'm okay w/ it.

@mxderate

2 жыл бұрын

@@DMAN_2314 Seems sensible. Though Ocala is fairly sizeable. I wouldn't skip it as a secondary for Orlando.

I'm ready for I-95 soon!

@kewejuankenobie

2 жыл бұрын

It will definitely be a long video due to 15 states to travel through and a bunch of cities.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Will be awesome! But not exactly soon

@newflyer2198

2 жыл бұрын

I-95 def going to be the unprecedented 45 minute vid just on the NB side alone

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

@@newflyer2198 Probably gonna be at least 3 parts. I don't think my computer can handle 45 minutes lol

@newflyer2198

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlCityFreak totally agree but you got to admit, I-95 is HUGE.

My favorite part of I-75 south isn't there anymore. Just beyond Lexington, there used to be an overhead sign saying 'Left Lanes Ends 10 miles". (I might have the distance wrong, but it was a ridiculous length.)

Flint would've been beter than St. Ignace, but the reason they put St. ignace on the sign is because of US 2.

@kneemeister

2 жыл бұрын

Plus about half the traffic is going to Lansing, So I still thing Grayling shoud be the control city, or Lansing\Detroit.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but US 2 is diagonal the wrong way at that point.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Is it really that big of a split? Detroit is a way bigger traffic driver than Lansing

@kneemeister

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlCityFreak alot of traffic takes 127 to US 10 in Claire to go southeast instead of 75

@kneemeister

2 жыл бұрын

127 is also the route to I-69 and Indiana, it is the original route of US-27 which goes to Ft.Wayne the second largest city in Indiana.

Being a Michigander, MDOT signs St Ignace, because the Yoopers are particular about anything south of the bridge, so far as calling anyone from the mitten a troll

The way i think it should be: Saginaw Flint Detroit Toledo Dayton Cincinnati Lexington Knoxville Chattanooga Marietta / Atlanta Atlanta Macon Gainesville Tampa Fort Myers Alligator Alley / Miami Miami

Re the U.S.-Canadian border, weed is legal in Michigan, but the border is under federal control, and of course weed is prohibited under federal law, so no bringee weedee from Canada. The weird thing is it's also illegal to bring weed into Canada, despite it being completely legal at the federal and provincial levels there.

Your series gives a case for double signing control cities. Now I look forward to 80 and 95.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

I do too!

@tysonstransitcam2190

2 жыл бұрын

80 in Pennsylvania though…

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

@@tysonstransitcam2190 It’s brutal

Thank you for promoting Fort Myers. Naples has always bugged me too. As for the stretch between Atlanta and Tampa…it’s long and boring. You need every control city you can get to at least feel like you’re making progress to get to the beach! I’d do Atlanta, Macon, Valdosta, Lake City, Gainesville, Ocala, Tampa, Sarasota, Fort Myers, Naples, Miami. Florida is massive and flat. It deserves the control cities. 🤣

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like Florida never gets enough credit for being as boring to drive through as it is. I’d take western Kansas over 75 or 10 in Florida any day.

Weed is legal in Michigan we legalized it not too long after canada but if the feds catch you you’re going down My hometown is Saginaw Michigan 😂 thanks for showing my little downtown.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I’ve been waiting for this video! A lot of the Miami toll roads are operated by a private company MDX and not FDOT and they really don’t sign any control cities. Just “to X Highway” or the airport.

@EdwardRingwald

2 жыл бұрын

MDX actually is the Miami-Dade Expressway Authority which is a state government independent agency. The Florida DOT operates its own toll roads as Florida’s Turnpike Enterprise.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Great info!

@neoskyline2879

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdwardRingwald Didn't know MDX was part of the state government. Thought it was just part of the county government. Good to know though.

You're right, the U.P. and L.P. of Michigan are like 2 different states. U.P. is a lot more rocky and pine forest than the L.P. Definitely feels more like Canada than Michigan once you're in the U.P.

@alexjones3511

2 жыл бұрын

I really feel the U.P needs another freeway. I was thinking you could extend I-43 into the UP to connect to Marquette and meet I-75 in Sault St. Marie.

@FameyFamous

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexjones3511 really? Is there enough traffic on current roads to justify it?

@ericalbright4943

2 жыл бұрын

Always thought of it as Michigan occupied Wisconsin

@dvferyance

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexjones3511 It would most likely be an extension of I-41. I would like to see I-41 go to Marinette or even Escanaba.

@davidneman6527

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericalbright4943 The Federal government awarded the U.P. to Michigan as a consolation for Michigan's losing the Toledo War to Ohio.

Just a slight issue, in Michigan state highways are referred as M-10, M-99 etc. never Michigan 10 or State Route 10 or Highway 10. Heck the sign has an M just like a US highway has US. Take it from the people that make all businesses possessive, as in Kroger's not Kroger to also say our highways designation with the number. 😉 I happen to live exactly half way between US-127 and M-99 both of which from Lansing, end up in Bryan Ohio; where I work, via State Route 15 (M-99 becomes SR15 and US-127 run concurrent with it on Main Street)

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Richmond does have a D1 college campus. Maybe that is why it is signed south of Lexington.

FDOT should put either Fort Myers or Cape Coral on the sign.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@EdwardRingwald

2 жыл бұрын

Fort Myers and Cape Coral can be on the second line of a three destination sign. Both cities do not qualify as control cities as they do not meet the AASHTO criteria.

@mxderate

Жыл бұрын

@@EdwardRingwald AASHTO sucks at control cities.

On those signs near the start, perhaps instead of "St. Ignace", they could have put "Everywhere". Or maybe "Everywhere Important".

@ControlCityFreak

Жыл бұрын

lol

475 west is lead to sylvania and also connect to 23 witch go's north Another thing is the I 75 exit 195 A and B. Exit 195 A is lead to Ohio 795. Exit 195 B lead to the Ohio Turnpike

I think Lexington/Louisville is a good pick for the 71/75 concurrency in Northern Kentucky headed southbound since 71 goes straight for Louisville (Plus thats the southern terminus of I-71)

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

I-375 in Detroit is planned to be decommissioned and turned into a boulevard and surface street. It was officially confirmed in November last year. For many years I-375 was the shortest interstate in the US. It’s basically just the southern end of the Chrysler Freeway, part of the Detroit freeway system (the others are the Southfield Freeway - M-39, the Davison Freeway - M-8, the Jeffries Freeway - I-96, the Ford Freeway - I-94, the Fisher Freeway - also I-75, and the Lodge Freeway - M-10). Once it’s decommissioned, if I were in charge of MDOT, I would designate the entirety of the M-59 freeway between Pontiac and Utica as the new I-375 instead, as it is up to Interstate standards and is 13-14 miles long. Just having the I-375 designation applied to that one tiny segment of the Chrysler Freeway made no sense to me.

@dvferyance

2 жыл бұрын

It was the shortest signed interstate. Now that title goes to I-110 in El Paso TX.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good re-number, but could be a little confusing to Detroiters used to seeing 375 downtown

@dhinton1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlCityFreak that definitely would be the reason it likely will not happen.

@dvferyance

2 жыл бұрын

@@ControlCityFreak It should be I-175. There is currently only one I-175 and it's like 3 blocks long.

@mxderate

2 жыл бұрын

@@dvferyance Its been 110. 375 is 1.01 miles. 110 is 0.9 miles.

VALDOSTA. LOL. I've rode the whole I-75 through FL to Miami

Lake City is because that's the common city for the Junction of I-10 and I-75 All the Tampa signing in Atlanta goes back to when that was the terminus of I-75 in the 1970s All the Naples signing in North and Central Florida goes back to when that was the terminus of I-75 from the early 1980s through the early 1990s.

@EdwardRingwald

2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind that AASHTO sets the guidelines for interstate highway control cities. Criteria for control city signing include: Termini of an interstate highway Junction of an interstate highway State Capital Lake City still qualifies as it is the junction of Interstates 75 and 10. However, Naples no longer qualifies as a control city as Interstate 75 is continuous to Miami (south) and Tampa (north).

@andrewdiamond2697

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdwardRingwald Right, but let's imagine for a second that the Florida DOT said, "screw it, we're leaving up the Naples signs"....because If I were to make a bet......

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I get why they sign it, but I’m still not a fan. Every state violates AASHTO guidelines all over the place, FL could also to skip Lake City, but they don’t want to

Great video by the way! Here is how the control cities on southbound Interstate 75 should be arranged from Michigan to Florida using the AASHTO guidelines for control cities: Flint (Interstate 69) Detroit (Interstates 94 and 96) Toledo (Interstates 80/90) Dayton (Interstate 70) Cincinnati (Interstates 71 and 74) Lexington (Interstate 64) Knoxville (Interstate 40) Chattanooga (Interstate 24) Atlanta (Interstates 20 and 85; also the Georgia state capital) Macon (Interstate 16) Lake City (Interstate 10) Tampa (Interstate 4) Miami (southern terminus) Regarding the mileages to Atlanta and Tampa from south of Toledo, I think the Ohio DOT erected this supplemental guide signage as a benefit for those coming from Canada for the winter. It is an assurance that one is on the right highway for Tampa and for Florida. Likewise, in Florida there is mileage for Interstate 275 south (Exit 274), the throughpass route through Tampa and St. Petersburg, listed on supplemental guide signage on the second line of a three line guide sign. As for places such as Valdosta and Naples, these cities were listed as at one point these cities served as temporary ends of Interstate 75 during construction. Now that Interstate 75 is a continuous highway between Miami and Sault Ste. Marie (FL 826 and Easterday Avenue West to be exact) these non-conforming control cities should be revised. Regarding Florida’s three digit state routes especially in South Florida, there is no parent route these state routes connect to. Instead, the first digit corresponds with a state route band; for example, FL 826 being an east-west route even though it goes north-south as part of the Palmetto Expressway belongs in an east-west band south of FL 80. Same thing with FL 687, which is 4th Street North in St. Petersburg: It is in an east-west band south of FL 60 even though FL 687 is a north-south highway. I look forward to seeing your Interstate 275 control city video for the Tampa/St. Petersburg area as soon as it comes out. If you would like to know more about Interstate 275 in the Tampa Bay region check out my site of all things Interstate 275 in the Tampa Bay region at Interstate275Florida.com!

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, great info! Will check it out when I do 275

@mxderate

Жыл бұрын

NO LAKE CITYYYY

@truckercowboyed2638

Жыл бұрын

You forgot Key cities like Ocala, Florida and I'd even put Gainesville/Tampa..... Gainesville is a major College town

@truckercowboyed2638

Жыл бұрын

Also Fort Myers/Miami

@mxderate

Жыл бұрын

@Trucker Cowboy Ed Gainesville is fine alone going NB, but SB I do agree with signing it with Tampa because Tampa is a huge metro area.

Detroit Toledo Dayton Cincinnati Lexington Knoxville Chattanooga/Atlanta Atlanta Tampa ( could be talking into Macon or Valdosta) Tampa Ft Myers Miami

@mxderate

Жыл бұрын

Macon is fine. (100,000+ people, Interstate junction, 3-digit Interstate)

@jimcoddington4100

Жыл бұрын

@@mxderate True. Just Tampa is larger but it’s still a few hundred miles away so Macon I think makes sense also

What do you think of The Wapakoneta OH exit on I75 at exit 111?

You mention the 3-digit highway numbers in FL. Take a look at a map of KY sometime; they have more 4-digit highway numbers than anywhere I've ever seen. And there doesn't seem to be any kind of order to the system.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

I hadn’t really noticed. Probably because I’ve driven I. Florida way way more than I have in Kentucky

@dvferyance

2 жыл бұрын

Virgina has 4 digit ones too.

@aaronholcomb237

2 жыл бұрын

Same with Texas FM and RM roads.

3:07 This highway and I-496 west of it should be part of I-69, rather than 73. 69 east of it should be an even number. I’m not sure which one but I have ideas below

@benjaminchandler7919

2 ай бұрын

Possible numbers for 69 east of Lansing: 98, which I would want I-196 to be part of. 96, with 96 east of it being part of 696, except in Detroit, which should be I-875 I-194 I-396

Speedboy14’s the way it should be for I-75 southbound Detroit Toledo Dayton Cincinnati Lexington Knoxville Chattanooga Atlanta Macon Valdosta Tampa/Orlando (until Florida’s Turnpike) Tampa Fort Myers Miami

Honestly, I think I-75 through GA is even more boring than FL. At least you get the occasional surf shop billboards, although FL doesn't get decent waves less a tropical system nearby. Signing Tampa from over 1000 miles away is a cruel joke in the winter.

@ControlCityFreak

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but driving through Atlanta and Macon spices things up quite a bit and north of Atlanta it’s pretty scenic.

@JasonTaylor-po5xc

Жыл бұрын

@@ControlCityFreak I agree with Atlanta. Macon is still a sleepy mid-sized town. BTW, I nearly always go straight through Atlanta unless there is a traffic jam or rush hour. It is faster most of the time. 285 is only 4 lanes each way most of the loop, especially on the top end - so it becomes an ineffective bypass. Everything south of Macon (most of the state) is super boring with the occasional small/medium town like Tifton and Valdosta - beyond that, it's all farmland. But, hey, at least it's green - unlike most of western plains.

When you do I-76. There are two of them. The one on the eastern end has it end at Lodi near the pilot and TA Truckstops

Nooooope. They mean no weed in the US. Here in Michigan weed has been legal since 2016. Heck, we just passed California to become the country’s biggest weed market. Suck it california!

Wonder what 76 will come first next week. The more well-known part in the eastern US which includes the Pennsylvania Turnpike or the lesser known part that goes from western Nebraska to Denver.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Equally well known to me!

@davidneman6527

2 жыл бұрын

For a real challenge, try navigating 76 westbound through the construction in Akron.

We finally get to my state next week, New Jersey, and then a few more weeks after that too. I76, 78, 80, 95

@shsav2012

2 жыл бұрын

I always forget about the part of 76 that goes into New Jersey.

@futurepilotsebyt1635

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, it will be so good to see New Jersey, I wish NJ was on I-87 but it barely misses it by less than a mile

@futurepilotsebyt1635

2 жыл бұрын

We have 287 but not as good as 87 lol

@chrisgeorge74

2 жыл бұрын

@@shsav2012 tbh, I didn't even know it went into jersey, I live in north jersey and never go down that way, just noticed after looking at maps

@chrisgeorge74

2 жыл бұрын

@@futurepilotsebyt1635 84 also misses NJ by like a few feet up near port jervis

Here’s my opinion of the way it should be for I-75 southbound Saginaw Flint Detroit Toledo Dayton Cincinnati Lexington Knoxville Chattanooga Atlanta Macon Gainesville Tampa/Orlando Tampa Fort Myers Miami

@mxderate

Жыл бұрын

No Saginaw or Flint. I'd go straight to Detroit. Also, no Gainesville.

@jordanjones5751

Жыл бұрын

@@mxderate would you add Valdosta on southbound?

@mxderate

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanjones5751 I'm a little iffy on it, but I'd be okay.

@jordanjones5751

Жыл бұрын

@@mxderate here’s a perfect way to sign I-75 southbound Detroit Toledo Dayton Cincinnati Lexington Knoxville Chattanooga Atlanta Macon Valdosta Jacksonville Tampa/Orlando Tampa Miami

I can see your argument not having Saginaw and Flint, Michigan, as control cities on signs, since both cities are shells of what they once were; both cities have less than half their population today as they did in 1960. So I can see putting Detroit as a primary city on mileage signs, and, maybe someday, at entrance ramps from the Mackinac Bridge southbound instead of those two.

How can you do a travel log of I75 and not reference Big Beaver Road in Troy MI. Exit 69. Edit time

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

I hang my head in shame

I feel like us23 should be changed to an interstate,maybe a spur since It splits from i75 then leads directly into a major city like Ann Arbor, maybe it could be i375 or something.....

2 digit Florida state highways are usually longer such as SR 80, SR 60. Odd are generally north to south, even east to west. North/south roads get smaller numbers as you go east, east/west numbers get bigger as you go south. Interstates have hidden state numbers, such as I-95 is secret SR 9. Naples is used as the control city over Ft. Myers because I-75 originally ended there and Alligator Alley was a 2 lane road for decades. I-75 comes to a sad ending in Miami-Date county because it was originally supposed to follow U.S. 41 / SR 836 from Naples into downtown Miami. The route was changed to follow Alligator Alley and then south, through western Broward county which was very sparsely populated at the time. Local opposition in NW Miami-Dade county (already populated) caused it to end at SR 826.

@ControlCityFreak

Жыл бұрын

Solid info, thanks!

If you take I-75 till the end , the sign is telling you to take 826 south to Miami, as North to Turnpike or I-95 is out of the way at this point. So I don't understand your comment at this point video saying, " it's not telling us which way to get to Miami.."

@ControlCityFreak

Жыл бұрын

There's signs to Miami International Airport, but I scoured it pretty carefully and didn't see any overhead signs pointing to Miami proper. It's possible I missed one.

Dave's the Way it Should Be: Flint/Detroit Detroit Toledo Dayton/Cincinnati Cincinnati Lexington/Louisville (until 71 and 75 split) Lexington Knoxville Chattanooga Atlanta Macon Orlando/Tampa (until the junction for Florida's Turnpike) Tampa Fort Myers Miami I'm being consistent with signing 2 control cities between Toledo and Dayton, St. Ignace could be something that Northbound I-75 it would make sense as there's really not much else between Flint/Saginaw and Sault Ste Marie but southbound should absolutely be preferably just Detroit. The reason why I say Orlando should be signed along with Tampa until the Turnpike exit is that Orlando is the more important city, especially for folks who is visiting Disney World from out of state, and an out-of-state driver is not going to be concerned about Ocala they're going to be more concerned about Orlando. Macon I'm good with going southbound on 75, going Northbound though it should absolutely be Atlanta, Valdosta is just not control city worthy at all imho.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Solid

@mxderate

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't do Dayton/Cincinnati as they have a very similar sized metro. 900,000 vs. 1.2 million isn't that much of a difference. And I wouldn't do Flint/Detroit. I'd do Saginaw/Detroit.

@DMAN_2314

2 жыл бұрын

@@mxderate if both Dayton and Toledo were further apart. I would absolutely be fine with both being signed by themselves. But because both are less than 75 miles from Detroit and Cincinnati respectively I consider them both to be exurbs of those 2 aforementioned cities.

@mxderate

2 жыл бұрын

@@DMAN_2314 Cincinnati only has a slightly bigger population. I wouldn't skip them.

Did someone comment on the Valdosta pronunciation on the NB video? I'm assuming so... Made me laugh every time throughout this video. I think it's uh-latch-ew-a, at least as far as I know, but I'm not from that part of FL. Tis a super small place and the name of the county Gainesville is in. Looking forward to 95

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah lots of people lol

Love the Ocala and Valdosta edits. 🤣

11:00 You missed the part where I-285 has Tampa as a control city.

@mxderate

2 жыл бұрын

He did that.

Florida toll road 417 is the Orlando bypass

Gator graduate here, a Gainesville sign would be nice along with the proper WILDWOOD for the FL Turnpike. You TOTALLY missed out on the I-75 EAST signs in Alligator Alley; though if you hit those in the North video I'll let it pass. :)

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Oh I did miss those!

the reason no pull through at 6:08 they WANT you to take the turnpike and make them money.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

I guess a lot of states do that

@mxderate

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah there should be a pull through for I-75 SB for Dayton and 80/90 Cleveland/Chicago.

I'm willing to bet that St. Ignace is the first overhead control city for 75 South because UP Michigan folk feel some kinda way about 'their territory' .... so MDOT did this for them. the Mackinaw Bridge (which basically is on the opposite side of St. Ignace, and probably is why St. Ignace is there to begin with) would have been less terrible. lol

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Fair bet

No Big Bone Lick. I know you mentioned it on I 71. Have a good one Todd.

@ControlCityFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah more time for tangents on the shorter roads.