Came here from Physics Girl's channel ✋✋✋

@AboveTheNoise

6 жыл бұрын

Mayur Valvi Thanks for checking us out!

@electricdipole6619

6 жыл бұрын

me too! and i really like the sources in the description. subscribed. ✋

@mspilot8283

6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, same here! Keep it going, love the channel. Science and being a better more understanding human being are things all of us can be better at. #usetheinternetforgood

@nabilmunla

6 жыл бұрын

ayeeee me too...

@aleksitjvladica.

5 жыл бұрын

Same.

rick rolling was never a negative thing

@toonlive2098

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you gamer, you have done well

@jennywang8984

3 жыл бұрын

you are internet troll.

@daisuke910

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I love him. He is ginger and has a unique voice. Alas his ginger hair fade when he gets older 😐😣

@thesauce0803

11 ай бұрын

the force is strong with this one

I thought that trolls were those little guys that wouldn't let you cross the bridge unless you forked over some cash.

they see me trollin', they hatin', patrollin' & tryin' to catch me ridin' dirty.

I admit, I trolled someone once. I tried to reason with him, I really did. But I've seen him troll other people far too many times to count that I finally got sick of it and decided to give him a taste of his own medicine. Surprise surprise, he blocked me. What a shame. :)

@mylifewithautism3958

11 ай бұрын

That’s fine imo, karma trolling isn’t a bad thing

trolling can be positive too, since when is someone commenting "darude sandstorm" evil?

@JonasSWilson

6 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYWjo8GwmtCrado.html

@99sins

6 жыл бұрын

I'd call that more a cyber-prank than a troll.

@jjc5475

6 жыл бұрын

thanks you jonas, that was amazing. cyber prank.. never heard that word before...

@juliettaylorswift

6 жыл бұрын

But is a prank a subset of a troll or is troll a wrong categorization?

@modd2375

6 жыл бұрын

:L

Substitute "troll" for "sibling" and a lot of the statements in this video still apply...

Trolling is different from bullying and flaming. There are more ways of getting a reaction from someone than being mean. Look at Ken M, for instance.

@animefreak5757

6 жыл бұрын

Yup, just lump everyone you can into that ball of people you hate. You've shown that you hate the word troll very well, anyone and anything that can be linked to the term you will attack. Your not far off from a troll yourself there.

@de0509

6 жыл бұрын

animefreak5757 actually far from it. Trolls dont usually think too highly of themselves. They post self depreciating stuff. Faking stupidity is humiliating enough. But some trolls love exposing harsh people who hide behind the mask of the moral high ground.

@EnaTenkiyoGamer

4 жыл бұрын

@@animefreak5757 normie

@EthanolTailor

3 жыл бұрын

and Michael Malice

@lancecrownsistercomplex

3 жыл бұрын

trolls are trolls they always are annoying and cringe

If you don't feed the trolls, they'll quit trolling

@Ratigan2

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, exactly. Just don't give them attention. But not everyone will.

This guy is so chill! I wish this video discussed the more subtle and witty sort of trolls.

@pwaaoolhtims4344

Жыл бұрын

I feel like there's a point where it's not annoying and simply funny

You forgot one kind of trolling, thoses who troll to make a point (could be about "fanatics" for example, or people totally fixated on one point of view)

@zazadatdude

3 жыл бұрын

They dont believe anyone else has an opinion. Hence, they claim “troll.”

But isn't Dianna's second comment a good thing? If "all blondies are dumb" but "every universal law has an exceptions (sic)" aren't they saying you are an exception to the law that "all blondies are dumb." Sure it's insulting and dumb in general but not to you specifically?

@AboveTheNoise

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, admittedly Diana's 2nd comment was more like a back-handed compliment. Probably not the best way to express your admiration for someone, but not really a troll-like comment, either. But it could be interpreted as trolling other blondies, so grey area there :)

@paulfenton5673

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah the comment is still garbage (I probably shouldn't have said "a good thing") but maybe not a troll. I do see your point about potentially trolling other blonde women. So yeah, digging for a negative reaction? Thanks for the reply!

@Robbajor

6 жыл бұрын

Sounds Machiavellian to me : P

@de0509

6 жыл бұрын

You wanna know whats worse? 100 comments saying "You're smart" letter by letter. At least some comments are more originaler than others.

@Ms19754

6 жыл бұрын

I would consider the comment a troll anyway - it is not directly trolling Diana, but it is not intended to just be a compliment on her as well. It is exactly a comment, trying to irritate others

I've never heard the info behind the studies behind trolling. Thanks for bringing that up. I don't remember subbing to this channel, but I like the style of it. I'll make a note of watching more of your vids.

@AboveTheNoise

6 жыл бұрын

Cool! We're glad you liked the vid, sub or not, and hope you do come back for more every other Wednesday.

@Misshayley461

Жыл бұрын

Rudy Hayley

@Misshayley461

Жыл бұрын

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@RussetfurTv

Жыл бұрын

@@Misshayley461 A what?

Those were totally goblins, not trolls, that you used as illustration.

@Ratigan2

5 жыл бұрын

they could be little green dwarfs for all i care

@BreakingArt1

5 жыл бұрын

Stop bullying Troll

@cadewhoelse1471

4 жыл бұрын

CEO of goblin and troll expert

@cheezywheezy526

3 жыл бұрын

Or they could be poopoo surprise unicorns

@khatharrmalkavian3306

3 жыл бұрын

He was trolling you with goblins, lol

Trolling seems to be pretty mild these days.

@Goddessoftime442

3 жыл бұрын

You know why that is it's because you are too darn awesome the bad trolls fear you because of your awesomeness me I am a good troll have a nice day and stay cool bud😎👍🏻

@NashHinton

8 күн бұрын

Its because of new cyberbullying laws. Now the trolls have to be more creative and humorous.

Remember, it's not BS, it's PBS ... -

@Dysphoricsmile

4 жыл бұрын

as in Pure Bull Shit! XD

Hello, I've got a troll bot on my YT chn that follows me and won't leave me alone. When I block him, he just creates a new empty YT account and annoys me again "hi it's me again, hehehe, and I won't leave you alone, hehehe! :D", again, and again! I've blocked already over 100 accounts but he keeps popping up, ridiculing me with his obnoxious comments. I have anxiety disorder and panic, once he writes me again. He stalks me on YT. What can I do?

@shairaptor1865

Жыл бұрын

@Jebbrey Bazzos These days with dynamic IPs ? Yep it suxx!

@EnaTenkiyoGamer

Жыл бұрын

Report his comments?

@shairaptor1865

Жыл бұрын

@@EnaTenkiyoGamer KZread does nothing about it. They only care about the big creators.

@EnaTenkiyoGamer

Жыл бұрын

@@shairaptor1865 oof

@shairaptor1865

Жыл бұрын

@@EnaTenkiyoGamer Well at least you can now check a "strict mode" holding inappropriate comments back, and make a blocked words list, so that helps quite a lot! But how to block "I'm back hehehe" that's not an insult. Just annoying comments. ;)

Dear Above The Noise, My state allows people to write and submit ballot initiatives. I want to write one but dont know how or where to start. Any suggestions?

Based on your graphics I think you have the wrong definition of a troll. The idea was based on the fishing term where you lure a fish into taking the bait. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing)

@EnaTenkiyoGamer

4 жыл бұрын

Well done! Claps*

I'm just here for the beard.

@AboveTheNoise

6 жыл бұрын

The beard is glad you joined us.

@aperson1377

6 жыл бұрын

Wow

@calisahardy4845

6 жыл бұрын

Above The Noise So ...we act _surprised_ at my comment? Lol

After years of studying trolls, I finally decided to try it to learn more. It was the only time I've done it and I failed massively. I waited until I was super stressed, created a new character on a mmorpg, got into a channel full of trolls, and gave it a try... got responded to... and cried. I guess not everyone can be turned into a troll. ...Then again, it was a single data point. Perhaps some people need more than others? I don't know. My stress levels were DEFINITELY higher than some difficult math, though.

@emicontained6870

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps you just share a lot more empathy with others and don't earn pleasure from being rude/trying to irritate others? That's not a bad thing. I would say if you're super stressed instead of trying to become a troll why don't you take a break and do things you enjoy. Treat yo self!

@RupaniJuvell

4 жыл бұрын

@@emicontained6870 Thank you for your kind words, that's what I normally do =) the story above was an experiment. I was studying troll behavior at the time. Empathy and the lack thereof fascinates me, but I now keep my studies at a more comfortable distance. ;-)

I've frequently thought that the Internet has more psychopathy & sadism than irl

Can't see where the tolls are. Do you actively remove them?

Wow! I love how research-based these infos are! Love it

@warpanda4907

2 жыл бұрын

Do you love me?

Trolling is definitely an interesting topic to learn about. Most people in forums react wrong to troll attacks and get “trolled”. Thanks for this interesting stuff.

I love the videos, very interesting and informative... Keep up the great work!

You constantly mix up your definition of trolling. You say they are just saying things to get reactions, have fun, get laughs, etc. But then you use examples like "you suck", etc. While I'm sure some of those people who say "you suck" might be trying to get a reaction, a large percent of them are legitimately angry, and not pretending or trying to get reactions. Those people aren't trolls, they are legitimately angry people. They aren't trolls, they are just aholes.

@ankka7615

6 жыл бұрын

True, but they're not just angry - the fact that they went on a public forum to vent their anger in a crude and hurtful manner that in way that isn't constructive, helpful or conveys what the actual problem is shows that they are not trying to just add their voice to make their opinions heard - they just want to hurt the person that annoyed them. People should be better than this.

"If you don't eat ass you will never be able to clean your room" - Jordan Peterson

The way i've always experienced trolls, the defninition is close to just getting a rise out of people. For instance taking a unpopular stance that you don't believe in the slightest, then loudly proclaiming such where you are almost certain to get many responses is a form of trolling. Sometimes a person making only one, or two comments set's off a huge argument even long after they've stopped commenting. Generally speaking i feel like people way overthink the whole trolling thing. It used to be common sense on the internet to NOT feed the trolls. Attention is what they want, if they don't get it they will go elsewhere. I suppose i've always had a issue with online bullying, outside of very specific cases (like creating new accounts to harass someone after they've blocked you) it's easily preventable. It's one of the aspects of the net I like best. If i don't want to talk to someone, i don't have to, and they can't even make me hear them if i wish otherwise. When you decouple people from consequences it's always going to bring out the bad in some, but the anonymity of the net has benifet's as well, and imo they outweigh the bad.

@beaulieuonnp593

3 жыл бұрын

You say a good point about one simple post, and how trolls and bullies gang up even though the original poster has not answered. It is funny in a way as they just look ridiculous. I remember contacting a local community group discussing local stuff and when I asked about say a group that the community group had no interest in, they would make fun of me. Say for example you wanted to know about the local Mormon group or road safety group, you would be virtually written off for asking about where that local group is and called names etc, but if you asked about where the local restaurant is then they would not gang up at all. You are kind of bullied into only talking about restaurants in a local community group, rather than other things that happen locally. I remember my post got deleted as my post about asking where something is that is not a restaurant.

@KvltKommando

Жыл бұрын

Calling people who dissent to something 'trolls' when they aren't actually just being contrarians to annoy people is a form of 'bullying' and its worse because it happens from the top down so there is no burden of proof for them to show that the censorship was necessary.

Nice video on a really hot topic on the net. Makes it a bit easier to understand, why some people troll - although I absolutely don't like this kind of destructivity. Cheers Bro! :-)

@AboveTheNoise

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing your feedback!

Seen lots of anecdotal evidence of this playing League. Once one person starts flaming in chat, there's a pretty high chance at least one other person retorts back or starts a war.

@AboveTheNoise

6 жыл бұрын

The research we looked at definitely backs that up.

Lol those examples were relatively extremely tame. Physics girl has some horrible and upsetting trolls which is sad because her videos are AMAZING.

ABOVE THE NOISE MORE LIKE ABOVE THE NOSE

@crawlermutantnvzr2076

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

I've never got a kick out of annoying people, that just seems like a bizzare thing to do to me. I guess people can seek out negative comments and get caught up in the drama of it all though or for some kind of self destruction.

@ReinersBlauerHoden

7 ай бұрын

You didnt habe the right mindset. I can coach you

I went through a phase where I tried trolling out... didn't last long because honest to goodness full-time trolls are a pretty messed up bunch. 4chan and gamingforce forums back in the day. Now I've got better things to do anyway. Had way too much time on my hands as a teenager.

I'm a certified troll and I love it.

Remember THE STREISAND EFFECT: The more you tell them not to troll, THE MORE THEY WILL.

Neat episode. Content and writing have definitely improved.

@AboveTheNoise

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the positive feedback! We've been working hard to improve the show, especially the graphics and animation.

Nice Public Enemy shirt. : )

@AboveTheNoise

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for noticing.

first you put me in a good mood and now I want to write a positive comment. I feel manipulated ;). Love the channel though :)

@AboveTheNoise

4 жыл бұрын

Hehe! Thanks!!

I wonder what the "naturally trolly" used as an outlet before internet comments were available. Letters to the editor? Are they just what we used to call "a crank"? Very enjoyable video, by the way. Now a subscriber. :)

@AboveTheNoise

6 жыл бұрын

Troy Jennings thanks for watching and becoming a sub! Hope you like the channel and come back for new vids (every other Wednesday)!

@merebrillante

6 жыл бұрын

Before the internet, they used harassing phone calls and - wait for it - poison pen letters. Yes, with a stamp and everything. Crazy.

I love this channel. That's not just for the Lololols. Great piece.

@AboveTheNoise

6 жыл бұрын

We're glad you like it. Let us know topics you might want to see us cover in the future!

This looks like a good general science series. Although aimed at teens, very few adults will know this stuff. I'm adding it to our Santa Monica Bay Audubon Society blogsite on a regular basis as suitable for all ages.

@AboveTheNoise

5 жыл бұрын

Rocky Cliff thank you for watching and sharing!! Yes, we are primarily trying to engage a high school audience (via their teachers) but we also hope that we are informative for a wide, general audience. Ultimately, we just want to help more people out there think critically about the information they are seeing about controversial topics!

What are the differences between tolling, ghosting and flaming?

He likes Space Jam... bet he likes "Thor love and thunder" too.

I gave you a thumbs up for taking the time to differentiate between trolls and assholes. It's a low bar, but this is the first time I've seen someone from outside the trolling community pass it. "Maybe there's a little troll in all of us." Well, yes. Once you understand what trolling actually is then that becomes exceedingly obvious. The mainstream media interpretation of trolling has confused almost everyone... Which we're totally fine with. :D Anyway, have a good one. P.S.: Your fly was down during that whole video.

@AboveTheNoise

3 жыл бұрын

Haha! You got me! But yeah, I think it's possible to accept the inner troll that lives inside all of us AND still try hard not to be a**holes. It's all about balance, man.

This makes sense. As far as trolling, I've tried to limit my trolling comments to what I know is true. However, I have found out that there are people who are actually paid to comment in a trolling fashion. And there are times I trolled a perceived troll with this comment: "How much were you paid to troll?" I haven't had one protest, yet, and maybe I alerted a person or 2 to this practice and maybe encouraged them to take trolling with a grain of salt. And maybe I caused a troll or 2 to stop.

I love getting a troll going. Does that make me a troll too lol

@nikm2089

2 жыл бұрын

Just means you found a shitty troll

Bad moods and angry behavior is catching, but so is being kind. Even in a bad mood if you force yourself to be kind or smile you will notice that you receive more smiles and kindness. It will change your mood, and your mood may help someone else as well.

I'll be fair. I only troll Sigmund FRAUD in SciShow Psych videos.

@user-iu1xg6jv6e

6 жыл бұрын

But psychology is not a science.

@MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs

6 жыл бұрын

ɐɯɹɐʞ ɐıuɐɯ Why? Because it doesn't confirm you personal beliefs?

The big aspect I didn't see mentioned is if the person being trolled is somehow bad or did something wrong in the eyes of the person doing the trolling

Awesome video! Very informative! Thanks!

@AboveTheNoise

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Does criticizing and disagreeing with a post or a tweet or a video on social media make somebody a troll or a Critic?

I prefer to do my 'trolling' face to face!!! There's more than enough idiocy in the "real world," in need of challenge!!! :-)

Hey awesome job guys, keep it up!

@AboveTheNoise

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

In the past, I trolled people in retaliation for trolling me. Now, I just block or ignore them.

I have a cyber bully, and I've had trolls in general. I just feel sorry for them.

@zachsutherland8158

Ай бұрын

sigma

Us trolls were never born that way, we just had a rlly boring irl life

I am a 30 year old woman who continually gets attacked by 15 year olds. Here is the TOS for KZread. This is what you can be banned for. " Content that is deliberately posted in order to humiliate someone Content that makes hurtful and negative personal comments/videos about another person"

@patriciairwin9491

5 жыл бұрын

@Eric M , Okay, what are you making us?

Ok, I get all that. However, I do see such mean spirited comments on some un-deserving story lines, that it makes me wonder if people who partake in trolling behavior aren't making themselves worse with each downvote. Like slowly sealing their own fate. Each time they downvote or attempt to hurt others their commitment to being ugly becomes slightly more ensconced within themselves. Like trolling is actually who they become. So is it something they are unable to control? Is this how they lead their lives away from the computer? Do these people have the power to recover themselves? Is this analogous to the lead pipe syndrome of Roman times? I mean it is pretty pervasive.

I'd be very interested to see what role provocation plays as both a trolling behavior and as a causal factor.

The definition @1:45 bothers me. Just like how you should "follow the rules of society without question"...that is stagnation.

What if you just completely disagree or find flaws in the video you are commenting on? What if the video is intentionally misleading? Genuine criticism can sometimes be interpreted as trolling. This is where the line gets fuzzy.

@AboveTheNoise

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. If you look more deeply into what we say in the video, the research around trolling is specifically around certain kinds of online behavior: flaming, gaslighting, insulting people about their physical or cultural characteristics, threatening their safety, etc. It is NOT about respectful criticism of their ideas or disagreement. We agree that it's important to be really specific and accurate about what you call trolling!

1:13 "...to the point that some news websites have removed their comments sections altogether." Let's be real, news sites removed comment sections because people call them on their bullshit. Think about what Robert Crichton's anecdote on this.

@RobertLofrano

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

i personally love trolls as long as they dont cross the line, trolling is the best way to destroy seriousness. c'mon now, plz dont generalize all of them

Trolls have done to online comments to what scammers & ROBO calls have done to the home phone.

During puberty I was corner trapping in COD...🤦‍♂️ I do believe upholding comment sections in news articles is just against freedom of speech. There should already be cleverly made filters that disrupt hate speech but also allow for a diverse group of comments to be brought up in opposition, support, and moderators for live feeds. Especially today with media outlets knowing more about manipulating humans than we know of ourselves.

@JC-ic8uh

4 жыл бұрын

The problem with this is that the filters that have been created are often compromised in the name of political and/or financial agendas as well as bias beliefs. The owners always hold the key. Sadly the result of all this will ultimately be an internet without privacy...wait....we're already there. How long until everyone has enough, decides the internet is nothing more than complete shit pretty much and start going back to older ways? The speed at which useful technologies grow is much slower than the rate of which our stressfully complicated lives get more stressful and more taxing. In the end the greed of the tech companies milking the F*** out of their R&D will be what does them in. They ensure the slowest release of good tech by releasing all the shit in between that many consumers can't afford to buy new every year or two. To give you an example I built a gaming PC about a year ago and put about $4-5k into it. I had been out of gaming for awhile and wanted to get back into it. I research everything extensively. It's so much harder to find useful info anymore though but that's besides the point. I built this over a year ago and have one of the best graphics cards IMO (Radeon VII) and this whole time I've had yet to find a good monitor that can match the rest of my hardware. WTF?!?! I just finally ended up going with an LG OLED as the TVs tech is progressing more quickly than the gaming monitors are. How messed up is that? By the time I get a decent monitor my whole setup is obsolete already. Consumer protection needs to step up their game and ban them from releasing shit that doesn't have the other matching tech ready to go. At least maybe it would force them to release matching products instead of consumers playing catch-up 24/7. Think about the pollution too and how long until they run out of natural resources to even make electronics. Long lasting electronics need to become top priority or eventually we'll literally get tossed back into the stone age.

@kylelehman8464

4 жыл бұрын

@@JC-ic8uh I couldn't agree more. The political spectrum is pushed for one agenda or another and media outlets show it. Corporations keep useful guides from easily accessible web pages and usually hidden. There's seems to be a monopoly on most products like phones or consoles. And you can't even replace your phone battery's lol. The presidential choices are limited AF and both in senile age while I know better candidates within my neighborhood. How f***** is it that all our congressmen are previously millionaires? Nowadays it seems there's allot more agendas than just the party's, or maybe it's all related?

Hmmm... What about about a form of positive trolling? In this scenario, there's the instigator/troll/cyberbully and the responder. The instigator starts with the usual tactics such as denouncing, demeaning, vulgar language, and trying to apply shame on the person in any way or form. The responder does not react negatively, but points out the instigator's behavior, offers the instigator to persoanlly message them, asks why the instigator only chooses to talk to/at the responder, and asks why the instigator does not talk with others, but only to the responder? Is positive trolling such a thing that could even exist?

If I'm in a bad mood, I'm not going to want to watch what I usually watch. I watch cute animal videos and funny videos to boost my mood. Lashing out at others would just make me feel worse.

Space Jam's the best movie ever... My inter weeb is crying 😢

This was a great video i like it thanks for the advice.

Trolling is trying to get a reaction. People are so trigger by everything.

@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitch

4 жыл бұрын

Like you getting triggered to this video? Riiiight

here from physics girl, just subscribed!

@AboveTheNoise

6 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for coming over to check us out ,and so glad you liked the channel enough to subscribe!

I highly recommend John Scalzi’s essay "your hate mail will be graded “ you can find it in his book of the same name or on his blog “whatever” ( yes he has been blogging long enough to Score that name;) He humorously points out he doesn’t care about troll opinions. He only reads hate mail for entertainment value. And here is my favorite quote that happens to be from a brilliant translation into English from the Danish play Peer Gynt: The difference between trolls and humans is that the humans say to thy self be true. Trolls say be true to thy self............................ish. P.S. physics Girl is awesome:)

i think some of the humor here doesn't exactly work (but some is great, SCIENCE!) otherwise pretty good job. i like that you don't just end up in using the usual jargon/lingo and explain those too. also big kudos for providing the references as links!

@Christina_Tydaughter

9 ай бұрын

Smurfs 2 was the BEST movie of all time... did u know tat?!

@Christina_Tydaughter

9 ай бұрын

"was" now it's Morbius! It's morbin time! 👨‍🚒

“Listen to some chill music“ *plays Bleed - Meshuggah*

Keep up the good work !!

@warpanda4907

2 жыл бұрын

And pay the tax

internet trolls have feelings too

That was excellent. I'm a scientific individual that has delt with more than my fair share of these outstanding individuals. I handled the last two so well they shut up. Kill'em with kindness and respect. They have trouble dealing or coming back at you, most of the time. Or ask them to do a equation with a differintial or integral calculus.

@tenossos

6 жыл бұрын

Kindness, or just don't feed them, which is even easier

When I encounter a troll, most of the time, all I have to do is to talk to the troll and tell him something like: "OK little troll, o you poor little troll. Go home little troll, since in here, you will no longer be fed." And most of the time, I think they do just that.

@dcabral00

5 жыл бұрын

@n Bernal Are you a troll?

It hasn't gotten any better.

"Troll" is used a lot when trying to have a civil debate, HOWEVER, There is a time and a place. For example. If you have a discourse set up where people are weighing in on opinions and controversial subjects. Then expressing the wrong opinion could be seen as "Trolling" (see pro-life v pro-choice). A pro-lifer can accuse the pro-choicer of trolling and visa versa because they are "upsetting" opinions. They are based in your identity most of the time. But, if there is someone expressing a "Testimony" that has happened in their life and someone tries to say "that didn't happen". That could be seen as trolling. There was no request for you to chime in, you are just being combative. The exact same comment can be "Trollish" depending on the content it is posted on even if it has good intentions.

LOL,thanks 4 warning me!

I don't believe in trolling. I would rather comment positively or not all. I realize that the creators are there to educate.

@jaimie00

6 жыл бұрын

As long as you include constructive criticism in the positive category, I concur. And even when videos are just there to entertain, you don't have to watch it. Perhaps we should start teaching kids how to improve their own mood, since many don't seem to have that skill (or understand that it's an option). Then we just have the bots, psychopaths, and sadists to deal with.

@andrewgeorge2666

6 жыл бұрын

Jaimes maybe we shouldn't label all trolls as psychopaths and sadists... Some of them believe it's the only way to be cool, or sometimes it might be for self reassurance, maybe they're doing something similar and they are afraid you're better then they are in which case trolling is actually a sign of respect. (People are strange things) I try to take trolls as a complement, cause I'm actually worth their time.

@jaimie00

6 жыл бұрын

That kind of thinking shows a lack of empathy towards others. So, while I understand your point of view, I disagree with you. You're describing someone who only cares about themselves, and doesn't care if they hurt someone else's feelings. In short, lacking empathy.

@andrewgeorge2666

6 жыл бұрын

Jaimes, you're saying that acknowledging the fact that not all trolls are psychopaths, and are sometimes confused people trying to be noticed, is lack of empathy? I respectfully disagree.

@jaimie00

6 жыл бұрын

No. I didn't say that *you* lack empathy. I said the behavior you were describing was indicative of lacking empathy.

I think anything that gives you an edge in survival will give you some kind of dopamine boost or some enjoyable sensation. The conflict comes when survivalistic behavior turns out to be anti-social (breaks bonds of trust between others) and an "error 404" occurs. The feeling of superiority is a drug in other words. An illusion that you can manufacture and feed off of through anonymity. In tribal times you could imagine trolling to provoke weakness in your enemies. In modern times with the mass connectivity of the world, the only enemy is yourself

@omerr_qadirr

3 жыл бұрын

bruh what?

here's the thing the only time I troll is when someone dares me to do it on discord bc sometimes I play truth or dare!

This is like saying that a few people make it worse for the rest of us...

Good stuff cuzo

you look like the typa guy to be like "oh man my grandma bitmoji game is dope"

Problem?

Well, it's important to note that people are not trolls, people engage in the act or lifestyle of trolling. There's also tremendous potential for confirmation bias when looking at trolling - not every comment that looks like a troll is a troll, and since we don't see people's posting history we don't know if this is their typical behavior or if it's a one-off, context specific or otherwise explained.

The 4chan background 😂😂

No one seems to accept the fact that there are people who really disagree, or kids, or just that an opinion puts light through one perspective, so anyone can switch depending on a chaotic chain of factors called life, or catharsis. It's like predicting meteorologic changes, you can't. However, I guess we can find patterns.

It makes sense that it's mainly sadists, I'm not a sadist in person but when I'm playing games like spelunky or COD or something I like trolling people but that's mainly just when I'm games

Its not like some people just dont know how to handle critics and stupid comments and are upset because not everyone agree with them. NO, its because TROLLS.

Thank you for your video. It taught us not to be internet trolls!

About the manipulation thing, is it truly wrong to manipulate? I use manipulation to when presenting an idea causing people to think the idea was also theirs, is that wrong? I see it as good presentation.

@MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs

6 жыл бұрын

Andrew George You seem to be deceiving them.

@andrewgeorge2666

6 жыл бұрын

L Galicki Band, am I deceiving them? If I am purposing a plan to them they had influence on what the plan was. I am simply highlighting the fact that they had influence on it, easing it into that favoured spot people have for their ideas.

@MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs

6 жыл бұрын

Andrew George I caught people trying to make up my mind and make me believe I was the one choosing what they were trying to push me, and I lost any trust in these people. It happened at work.

@andrewgeorge2666

6 жыл бұрын

L Galicki Band when I manipulate I try to do it without deceiving, I just try to change their perspectives. I'm just throwing a bit of sand on my side of the already unbalanced scale of human decision.

Usually if I want to comment, I try to find something good to say. But sometimes people misread my meaning and think I'm being rude. So, sometimes a comment that looks like a troll, is just a person who isn't getting their meaning across the right way.

Well I guess we can treat it like COVID-19, contagious if you don't social distance from Trolls, not contagious when you do, 6 feet, can't touch me💯🔥

The character traits given were... iffy on if they were actually about trolling, and the examples given- including the summary of "trolls just want to have fun"/"anyone can become a troll" lean more toward flaming rather than trolling. I'm going to guess the researchers are looking at behavior in the umbrella-term "trolling," rather than the explicit act. Everything I say after this sentence is talking about the specifics, and there's a LOT more to cover than just what I say. Flaming is direct, its motives are obvious and unrelated to having a laugh, and can often be summed up as an untargeted/"general direction" form of cyberbullying- even when it seems targeted at individuals. There's rarely ever a goal behind a flame that the act of posting a flame doesn't accomplish. In other words, it's akin to venting for the sake of venting. Trolling is... not these things. It is not direct- though it may seem so. The motive is to make people laugh- and if someone falls for it then there's more laughter to be had and someone to teach to not take people or the internet too seriously. It IS (usually) untargeted, though with no hostile or ill intentions, as a troll's initial post is often- if not always- absurd to a laughable degree in some manner to those who don't instantly react. In other words, trolling is an interactive comedy routine with multiple layers of humor- the posts/jokes themselves, the invitation to heckle, and the heckling/counter-heckling that usually follows. There is definitely overlap, using a few comments in this comments section as an example, where trolling can look like flaming and the joke is context-dependent or where the intent is to hook someone and rile them up. These in-betweens fall under the terms "bait"- which is the same term used for the initial trolling post, and is called such when obvious- and "poe"- which even people used to trolls and trolling can't tell is serious or not. A skillful trolling can look like anything as serious as, or more serious than, it actually is. The more face-value-jokey variants of flaming (mean-spirited jokes) are still regarded as "being a jerk" and other such things, as they are in real life The umbrella-term "trolling" exists because of that difficulty distinguishing what is serious and what is not- and unfortunately it is used to dismiss the acts of comradery (the not-serious) as some form of hostility- including those that fall under a different umbrella term, memeing.