I am 70 years old and live in the UK and this site has to be one of the better for computer information so straight no fuss to the point. what more could anyone ask for. great site Thanks............makes me happy to know these people help everyone.

@hitime.

5 жыл бұрын

Well done

@xhonatanblini

5 жыл бұрын

foookin awesome mate

@Kratos-nb6pe

3 жыл бұрын

You still alive bud?

@slader8543

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kratos-nb6pe bruh

@Kratos-nb6pe

3 жыл бұрын

@@slader8543 hurb

im new to this computer shit. i fuckin love how every time i have a question, you already have a video up that answers it. thank you.

@ezzocorbi

8 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the pc gaming world :-)

@tungstenivoxide2407

8 жыл бұрын

If you have any questions people like me can help, so ask away.

@chrisakaschulbus4903

8 жыл бұрын

am i allowed to ask a question too? :D i have a normal sized tower pc with an microatx board, intel core i5 and the next thing i want to upgrade is the video card... i thought of a gtx 1080, i know, at the moment this card is real overkill for my needs... my tower has two casefans, one at the front where the hdd is and one above the gpu blowing out... so just the typical tower, nothing extrafancy or something... no i am not sure which 1080 i should buy, reference or something else... i think because of the small board and the cpu it would be better to get a reference cooler...

@tungstenivoxide2407

8 жыл бұрын

+Chris aka Schulbus I think you would benefit more if you went for an internal exhaust as you get better GPU cooling, as long as you don't already have heat problems with the i5. This would allow for more over clocking of the GPU giving an possible increase in performance. A blower cooler would be fine too, and those tend to be cheaper, like the MSI Aero, or Asus Turbo.

@tungstenivoxide2407

8 жыл бұрын

+James Gilmore I used a Windforce 760, and then a Strix 970 in a PC with a single 80mm rear exhaust without and significant problems your cooling is more than adequate.

There's a snake in that pc

@GGaievski

4 жыл бұрын

i've been looking for this nylon braid...

@jasonmartin7968

4 жыл бұрын

i said the same thing when i saw that

@sayaaep

2 жыл бұрын

3

@linkfreeman1998

11 ай бұрын

Snakes in a PC, such a nice movie.

@ryanriccioni7977

6 ай бұрын

Don’t worry, red and black friend of jack

gaming rig build and maintenance is an enigma to me.. the more i think i learn, the more i dont know what the hell i learnt.

@Cebbinghaus

7 жыл бұрын

it comes down to what you want. i went around picking out parts and learning on the fly. some parts that iwanted i couldnt get and some endedup bringing me over budhet but after ordering everything i startedhaving my doubts andstarted worrieing if it would work. well while im still waiting i did do a ton of research and found that all the parts that i have are perfect and work very well together (an example of this is the fact that i got ai7 6700k and by coincedence bought a z170 mobo without knowing that you need a z series motherboard to even overclock a 6700K). even after finding all this im still finding new things for example skylake ran and the blower style cooler that i have, that could not be ideal so keep on learning and at some point it will start to make a lot of sense.

@marsaurelius

7 жыл бұрын

DopestDope Everythink is like that xD

@jpesicka999

5 жыл бұрын

Immerse yourself. Research is key. Built it then upgrade it or build another. It will become 2nd nature.

Interesting results (though predictable I guess). I didn't think the ref. would be quieter though!

@alex-w8p2e

5 жыл бұрын

DIY Perks why does this have only 3 likes

@sayaaep

2 жыл бұрын

@@alex-w8p2e now 44

Hehehe, bad CASE scenario....

@amdmasterrace8626

8 жыл бұрын

lol

@sambloom955

8 жыл бұрын

Intel master race

@winstonsmith9494

5 жыл бұрын

....to a certain degree.....

@jordancup5802

4 жыл бұрын

@@sambloom955 your comment didn't aged well

@yesnoyeswait4306

3 жыл бұрын

@@jordancup5802 Lmao. True. 4 years later AMD has the fastest CPU's on the world, and Intel is far from master race. Intel is best at only one thing, heating your house with 11900k's 400W allcore load.

:06 turn on subtitles it says "the stuff you need for gay men"

@edisonsiew5450

8 жыл бұрын

Lol

@pavy415

8 жыл бұрын

hahhahahahaha

@VincentCS34F

8 жыл бұрын

Lolol when I saw this I didn't believe you.

@xounarinarinari2067

8 жыл бұрын

+Quietbut_Deadly "not game gear, gaming gear the stuff you need for gay men" LOOL

@jeffler383

8 жыл бұрын

+Quietbut_Deadly haha

So basically the blower style reference card had a case temp advantage because it doubled as an exhaust fan? Thats definitely a reason to consider reference cards.

@vanderducken6112

8 жыл бұрын

+shut your face! nope,reference card is usually hotter and slower. reference cards = more features depending on what brand your going to buy

@SoulTouchMusic93

8 жыл бұрын

+Vander Ducken soo reference card with aftermarket cooler should be right?

@vanderducken6112

8 жыл бұрын

The Vibe depends on the brand

@vanderducken6112

8 жыл бұрын

The Vibe some people live in cold place so its ok for them to buy the reference card because of its cool design

@SoulTouchMusic93

8 жыл бұрын

Vander Ducken i know. frankly my room is sensibly warmer when i play computer games. as a side note i am amd fanboy

“As a high end card” I love how he refers to a 780 ti, man have times changed

@jetmate888

3 жыл бұрын

lmao yeah shit evolves so fast

@chills5100

2 жыл бұрын

RTX 4090 around the corner. "ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT"

5 years after KZread: let's recommend this video :

I would definitely like to see this test done again in a build with good airflow.

i would've liked to see a comparison with different cases, like a big tower, a matx case, a mitx cube to see how they perform in all different cooling concepts

@NightSyndicate

9 жыл бұрын

+toby marol me too

@tebibyte2357

4 жыл бұрын

Blowers win regardless because if you max out the fan, there will be no hot air inside of the case as well. The other type of fan just pushes air everywhere at once 😂

I would like to see this in application to a silent build like the Define R4/R5

4:29 I see what you did there.

@chrisakaschulbus4903

8 жыл бұрын

a bad case scenario ;)

The "Cougar SX" PSU... classy

@abbcc5996

8 жыл бұрын

i never heard of those before, what is the referance you are giving here?

@Alexander-cn5sc

8 жыл бұрын

+Hüseyin Zeynel Ilhan a cougar is an older woman looking for young boys Oi Oi

@abbcc5996

8 жыл бұрын

hahahahahah what a funny joke xd

@Alexander-cn5sc

8 жыл бұрын

Hüseyin Zeynel Ilhan bit'o banter m8

@TIPh0enix

8 жыл бұрын

+Alex Ferry Ahaha you cheeky cheeky bugga

i dont understand why noise is a problem anyway. at least for me, Im always wearing noise canceling headphones so any noise my pc makes I can't even hear unless there is no audio playing. Even then I can't hear nearly as much.

@drizzy6302

5 жыл бұрын

My brand new gpu sound like jet engine when i stress my gpu sound cancel dont even matter brotha

@baqcasanke

4 жыл бұрын

ScorchedLM because some people have different preferences and aren’t always tryna be wearing noise cancelling headphones..... this is such a stupid comment jesus

@linkfreeman1998

2 ай бұрын

Thats the problem, not everyone have noise cancelling heaphones / earbuds.

GTX 970 in SLI or a single GTX 980? Which company is the best/has the best card?

@AlDabbas

9 жыл бұрын

i will go with (gtx 970 msi)

@superhacker101

9 жыл бұрын

single 980 as ali rarely works

@laservader1

9 жыл бұрын

ask on the forum

@GuitarwolfZero

9 жыл бұрын

1080p/1440p = single 980 4k/triple monitors = SLI 970

@frankdavila8008

9 жыл бұрын

SLI 970s

Providing that you have good cooling in the case, It will not matter. When you are building a Mini-ITx, then hell yes, get a blower cooler. A two 120 standard setup, one in / one out is all you need to bring the temperatures down for a single 9xx card. It is critical to keep the GPU away from its thermal throttle. LinusTechTips You should also compare the ATI card coolers, Those suckers make more heat than the Nvidia Cards and need more cooling. They also don't have the same benefit of one of the better OEM Cooler designs.

@HShango

9 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@youngurbangod1156

6 жыл бұрын

How about those premium Mini ITX cases? Like the Phanteks Evolve itx?

Yes, I’d like to see this tacked again… in 2023… with a blower style 3080… in a fractal pop silent.

I would like to see a comparison with SLI on internal vs rear exhaust and see whether the internal temperatures have a bigger difference

He used a case with very little airflow... of course the aftermarket GPU will run hotter! But anything that has decently good airflow (aka: add 2 more fans and a case with a few more holes) and the aftermarket GPU will run as cool, if not cooler. It all comes down the the case: Low airflow/silent: get the reference card. High airflow: get the aftermarket one. Follow that rule and you'll be golden! :D

@WWEckenman

9 жыл бұрын

so what should i get for a h440 case?

@therealr0bert

9 жыл бұрын

eckenman That case should have good air flow for a silent oriented case. Imo if you're going to use at least 120x2 front intakes (which is pretty standard) I'd go with an aftermarket one. Get one that fits your builds color scheme. Asus, Msi, EVGA, Sapphire, Galaxy, Gigabyte, etc, etc they all make good stuff.

@comanderjuul

9 жыл бұрын

eckenman An NZXT H440? Get the reference card. Although it has 3 fans at the front, they're relatively low speed and meant to be silent, so the air flow is not the worlds greatest.

what about sli/crossfire configuration? i feel like blower is better?

@OKANGUVEN99

8 жыл бұрын

+-T-X-M- + blower coolers are usually slimmer than others

@chivo5000

8 жыл бұрын

+soccerguy2433 Blower is basically made for SLI and Crossfire. For a single powerful card, you might want to get one with a fan.

@soccerguy2433

8 жыл бұрын

Fernando Guzman-Rodriguez Schafer thanks!

Love the international giveaways, guys! Also like the fact there is no "how many people will enter this competition" type question to enter, only random selection from entries.

I've zip tied a 120mm fan on the outside back of the case over the PCI slots since 2011 for my non referance cards. Works a treat for pulling a lot of the exhausted air straight out of the case

when it comes to case airflow, should the amount of air the gpus can move be considered when trying to calculate case pressure?

ahhh back in the day when the 780 Ti was a high end card

Watching 7 years later because I was actually looking into the differences, very interesting seeing the difference in style from today. Still the same energy from Linus though :)

would love a more in depth specific look at gpu coolers youre doing great work, really enjoying it, keep it up

Can "Blower"/Rear exhaust type of cooler's fan/airflow being boosted somehow? I have no clue why they're always "Barely enough" on cooling performance.

@angrodNumenesse

8 жыл бұрын

+RoyalPredator The card BIOS from the manufacturer is built to find a 'happy medium' between noise/temp and performance. If you want to change how the fan(s) operate you need a utility. Overclocking utilities should all (I hope) have the ability to set custom fan curves. I use MSI Afterburner. I activated user fan control and then set up a very aggressive fan curve. At idle you can't hear a thing but as soon as the card is put under load the fans spin up real fast. By the time my gpu temp hits 70C the fans are at 100%. The curve is so aggressive though I haven't seen temps go above 60C. This will work on a blower style card too, you will just have a lot of noise.

@RoyalPredator

8 жыл бұрын

angrodNumenesse I'm used to MSI Afterburner custom fan setup (this is what keeps my current 7870TahitiLE alive), my question was about to increase airflow for blower-type coolers in any physical way. Even if its an aftermarket fan replace or direct airflow towards that single fan these VGA cards come out with. Ty for the reply tho. :)

Test with Maxwell and all the aftermarket cooler which stop in idle or low load. And also test how much case ventilation and good cable management could affect.

When I switched to a non-ref cooler I immediately noticed the fans on my H100i spinning faster and louder to the point that it was very irritating. I don't mind the blower style cooler, even though the GPU runs a little warmer, because it keeps the other components cooler. Thanks for confirming what I had already established.

It was a pretty intersting thing to know because many many times people says that after market cooler are "better" but no one since now as ever explained why or in wich case they are better so...good job on that

Shoulda used an R9 290x reference vs non reference for worst case scenario.

omg i was JUST trying to decide if I wanted the reference gtx 970 or an aftermarket style lol perfect timing linus!! what would you guys do? (I'm not looking to overclock the snot out of it...just a little)

@Wind0wed

9 жыл бұрын

if u dont want to overclock the card then go for a reference card :)

@hollowbonesfilms9739

9 жыл бұрын

Wind0wed I have a ZOTAC GTX 970.

@Carli_Collects

9 жыл бұрын

Wind0wed thanks! yea I'm thinking I want that green "geforce" glowing through my window ;] I'm a sucker for aesthetics lol (yea I know the aftermarket 970s have lights too, I'm partial to the nvidia one) lol

@oreomoon1998

9 жыл бұрын

Don't get a reference... I used to have a reference GTX 770 it would run at 80c under load. Now I have a MSI Gaming 4G GTX 980 and it runs at 66c under load.

@SaiF290

9 жыл бұрын

where do you find the reference 970? Personally, I got the MSI Twin Frozr edition of the 970.

My personal usage model includes a 5820k water cooled with an XSPC RX360 version 3 rad (56mm thick) and push pull SP120s usually running around 30% (as low as I can get them to run). Then for GPUs I run two Strix 970s with stock cooling and everything is in a NZXT Switch 810. In take fans generally running at around 800rpm (I removed the out take now that I have a large rad there.) I'm very pleased with how quiet and cool the Strix 970s are.

Very interesting, would love to see more vids about blower gpus

Proof once again that it only matters how well one thing in your life is blowing for you: your graphics card.

I would like to know if cooler graphic card means better fps in games? My graphic card runs at 70c in load,will there be a difference in fps if my graphic card runs at lower temperature than 70c?Same question goes for other pc componets like CPU. Make a test on that please.

@Boeingbmaster

9 жыл бұрын

temperature won't really do much unless your card is thermal throttling. if your gpu runs cool enough, you may try to overclock and see if it helps but it will raise the temprature. my gpu is OC'ed at 950 Mhz and there is not much benefit to lowering the clock as the temperature (70 degrees Celcius) remains the same and increasing the clock to 1000 Mhz not suprisingly increased to 80 celcius

@williamwalker2096

9 жыл бұрын

Get some software which shows your GPU clocks and temps and check for yourself.

@SillentStriker

9 жыл бұрын

If your GPU runs at 70c on load then you're not going to gain any fps by going any lower, as most GPU's limit is around upper 85c. As far as CPU goes, if you have Intel as long as it doesn't go above +/- 85 you're clear, if you have a FX series then make sure to not go above 62-63c. A good cooler like Hyper 212 EVO will make wonders, as it dropped my FX 8350 from 62c to 45-46c

@SullenSecret

9 жыл бұрын

You'll probably get steadier frame rates (less drops that are obvious). One thing I do is put heat sinks on the graphics RAM chips (and other hot components). The first time I did, the improvement was quite noticeable. You'll probably find them labeled as MOSFET heat sinks.

@TooBokoo

9 жыл бұрын

70c under load isn't extreme at all, especially on a newer card, so you won't see any performance gains by getting lower temps at this point. Problems on a newer card likely won't start to show until you get higher than 80c-90c for long, constant gaming sessions.

You guys always come up with the most interesting angles when evaluating a product. I never considered how much a non-references video card could change internal temps inside my PC. You should do the same thing with GTX 970 or 980s, a larger case. watercooled CPU, etc and so forth.

I also noticed slightly better temps for a blower style cooler with just using intake fans. My thought is that positive air pressure might have helped with pushing air though the blower style GPU although there can be tons of venerables. I did notice idle temps and fan speeds where noticeably better and at load although better within margin of error.

What the actual fuck are those cabels?

@AlexsMemeDump

8 жыл бұрын

King snakes fam

This does not work with AMD 290X lol

@-zerocool-

8 жыл бұрын

Mine was always hot and always throttling. Love my 980Ti Hybrid!

@nictheperson6709

8 жыл бұрын

+Squall Leonhart Because AMD's blower cooler sucks.

@DefactoPC

8 жыл бұрын

+zerocool 980ti master race!

@-zerocool-

8 жыл бұрын

I have a 980Ti Classified now, way better than the Hybrid

@DefactoPC

8 жыл бұрын

+-T-X-M- 295x2 = 2x 290s so obviously.. the 980ti dominates every other amd gpu.

I had encounter the same issue (switching from exhaust to internal GPU fans) with internal temperatures rising up to 15c more. So switched side panel on my T600 from a window to ventilated one,L; temps went down but due to having negative air pressure now (after mounting fans on side panel to blow over GPU), I got a lot of dust in unit. So changed fans around to create positive pressure inside case. All this hassle just from going from a exhausted GPU to an internal one!

I use an AZZA Solano case. I run on average 30-32 C and in the summer when it's 40 C and up the case maintains ambient temps 40-42 C. This is also with a 670 GTX Windforce. I so love this case.

I barely get excited at giveaways and competitions. I mean look how many comments there are, the possibilities are near zero.

@andrewhuber2149

5 жыл бұрын

1% is greater than 0

@linkfreeman1998

2 ай бұрын

well same here. better get smth on your own.

I use an office chair. works great.

I have a Windforce cooler on my GTX 770, but my CPU is watercooled running in push/ pull sucking fresh air into the case through the radiator so having this type of cooler doesn't affect my CPU temps. I also have two 120mm fans in the side of my case exhausting the GPU heat. Works well.

I wish you guys would have touched on this concerning SLI. Reference vs. aftermarket coolers make a big difference concerning internal heat when using more than one GPU. In my experience, SLI setups almost always run cooler with reference cards, but I'd like to see this tested.

5 degrees isn't really a big difference haha, also of course airflow matters

@stattraktagged9929

8 жыл бұрын

It does.. Well.. GPU Boost require a low GPU Temp at full load. 5 Degrees are significant.

@TheWolfSaid

8 жыл бұрын

also that can mean being on the limit in summer or staying on a safe zone. in Mexico we have higher temperatures than Canada or some US places. Those 5 degrees are something to take in account.

@LittleTrainZ

8 жыл бұрын

open a window or live in uk

@cy9nvs

8 жыл бұрын

5 degrees is a shit load for a gpu.

@RAiNfORAiNbOW

8 жыл бұрын

Guys, I really want to buy a reference design too now. But I can't decide and I need to choose before monday. The reason is because I really like how reference cards look like and I don't care for 5 - 10 FPS less but I am concerned for the noise? Is it really louder? I have 970 Direct CUII right now and I am really happy with the noise levels, will it be worse if I get the reference 1070? I value silence a lot for the PC so if anyone can give me his direct experience it would be really appreciated :)!

"Worst 'case' scenario" Surprised you didn't take advantage of that one

Interesting Video but one kinda important factor was left out completely... DUST! The reference cooler design in theory isn't bad, but use one of those suckers 6 to 12 months in your PC and air will just stop to get through because its all blocked up by dust (if you smoke, make that brown dust), therefore the card will run hotter, the fan will spin faster and also louder. Cleaning the reference cooler is a nightmare of its own, i ended up replacing it with an aftermarket cooler, since i had to disassemble and void the warranty of the reference design anyway, just to clean it!? Cleaning an open cooler is much much MUCH easier than this closed up box that the reference design is (maybe they have improved on that since the GTX260 that gave me troubles? idk, doesn't look any different to me?). Anyway, i like to have my warranty intact so i buy the custom designs and hope for the fans to be silent.

this video was exactly what I was looking for, like been looking for days and couldnt find it. But I am finally here now. THANK YOU!

I kept all I could to MSI. My PC is both beast and sexy :)

@theGRSpisak

9 жыл бұрын

4 days ago got my z97 mpower and im very happy with it . Its very qualitetively with a ton of oc features and a nice looking one also 12 phase power design means very stable oc . I just cant get why so many ppl hate on msi mobos , "Dont get msi its crap " , " Msi mobos are so cheap made" , "Get asus , asus is better " .....No.....Just No , For the last 2 yeats of my life i am using msi mobos and i can prove them all wrong . You get what you pay, simply.

@SillentStriker

9 жыл бұрын

MSI is pretty good, they are a bit expensive but they have good cooling aswell as their cards look sexy as f

@giggitygoebbels3612

9 жыл бұрын

Spilios Spisak It is MSI low end boards that sucked before(until Z77).Like 970A G46 and Z77A G43 with those D-PAK MOSFETs and 3-4 phases VRM.Higher end MSI boards are always great.However,Asus also used D-PAK MOSFETs on their non Z boards till 7 series chipset boards as well,so...yeah. PS Meanwhile,Gigabyte came up with some antics and 'updated' those IR3553s on their Z87 boards to SiRA12s on Z97,often cutting VRM phases by half too.They even cut B85M HD3 from 4 phases(3 PowerPAK/phase) to 3 phases(2 PowerPAK/phase) through revision update.Gigabyte was once good with their Z77 "UP" series boards(eg UP5,UP7) rigging 6 to 32 IR3550s,then they decided to be funny and change their Z87 board MOSFETs to 4-8 phases of IR3553s(except those rediculously high price boards which uses 16 IR3550).People are already complaining at this point.They did not learn from their mistake and did it again,finally even resorting to sneakily cut costs on existing motherboards.They also removed one MOSFET per phase and Dual BIOs function on B85M D2V,lied about the brix having GTX760 when it is 870M.These is just too much.Would avoid GB because of that.

@eagames456

9 жыл бұрын

Corsair and Asus here :D

@Dseated

9 жыл бұрын

I was able to find an MSI cd/dvd writer to pair with my mobo, and gfx card!

Intel stock cooler... the windforce yeah, it must be the windforce...

Somehow the conventional wisdom now is that blowers are much louder and shouldn't exist. Please do a comparison with more recent cards. The best recent blower I can find is the RTX 2080 Ti which I just bought used from eBay!

I use a bracketmount on my 780 together with a Corsair H90 CLWC. Idles at roomtemps and never goes above 41 at lengthy loads. I measured the VRMs on the graphicscard too and it was far from danger for those wondering about that. I did a overclock run and managed to get 1300Mhz out of the gpu somewhat stable. But I reduced it to around 1270 and it runs like a charm. This is on a referenceboard btw. Right now the loudest part of the pc is the hdd :/

I'm getting a GTX 1080 reference card. The aftermarket coolers just look so butt-ugly. And I don't want pre-heated air blowing across my CPU's liquid radiator block. I'm fairly certain whatever efficiency you gain with a slightly cooler GPU is lost through heating up air to the CPU.

@rimasvart

8 жыл бұрын

I got the reference cards too. They look so much better (always been a fan of Nvidia cooler designs) and it just so happens that there is pretty much zero advantage in non-ref cards in terms of overclocking because they all seem to hit the same power wall or something (according to various articles), although at the expense of noise. Having an OC'd 5960X I don't want to have the case hotter than it has to be either...

@theholypopechodeii4367

8 жыл бұрын

Personally, I've always hated NVIDIA and AMD's reference coolers. I always try to find a card with a triple fan design.

@rimasvart

8 жыл бұрын

RayzeTheDragon It's a matter of taste and preference. Nothing more, nothing less.

@theholypopechodeii4367

8 жыл бұрын

ExtraPIXELFLUX Yes, I know.

@RAiNfORAiNbOW

8 жыл бұрын

Guys, I really want to buy a reference design too now. But I can't decide and I need to choose before monday. The reason is because I really like how reference cards look like and I don't care for 5 - 10 FPS less but I am concerned for the noise? Is it really louder? I have 970 Direct CUII right now and I am really happy with the noise levels, will it be worse if I get the reference 1070? I value silence a lot for the PC so if anyone can give me his direct experience it would be really appreciated :)!

2019 anyone?

Linus, I'm a big fan, really...But 30% of the video is ads and sponsors. The video's topic is actually done on 05:10 and the rest 2 and a half minutes is an ad to Intel's NUC. Don't let the ads and sponsors get over your video, try not letting your viewers down. If someone comes in and expects the video to be around 7 minutes of main topic but he finds out it's only around 5 minutes, it's not fun. Anyway, keep up the good work! You have a lot of fans here in Israel :-)

i really hope you will start adding price to every part you mentioned in your video, it does help a lot. i know prices varies but at least just mentioned it as much as you know.

Edit: I know he addresses my points in the video, but explaining the scenario does not mean it's a good one, at least not in my opinion. I can still argue about it. I usually like your videos, but I thoroughly disliked this one. Your approach is flawed on SO many levels, it's ridiculous. That case looks incredibly bad for airflow because the front is completely chocked by the front panel. It's a known problem that non-reference cooler dump the heat into the case and that good airflow is necessary to offset that issue. So good airflow is paramount to achieve the lower temps and lower noise output. You have done everything in your power to achieve poor airflow: no cable management, a seemingly bad case for airflow, no extra airflow from the CPU cooler, etc. It's also no secret that the Windforce cooler on the Gigabyte cards is reasonably loud when compared to other coolers e.g. Asus Strix, MSI Gaming cards. A really misinforming video and frankly quite frustrating.

@BugLondon

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah they could have at least tested more coolers than the Windforce.

@PrimeSonic

9 жыл бұрын

Did you even listen to what he said? The poor air-flow in the case was intentional to show what can happen in a worse case scenario. The conclusion is to pay extra attention to the case when building a system using an open-air GPU. This video was only misleading if you had your volume on mute while watching.

@frollard

9 жыл бұрын

Agreed with Sonic -- It's to show a worst case scenario where the reference being noisier can reduce overall system noise compared to needing more fans for an open air design in a really shit case. Agreed: Better gpu temps (11c demonstrated) are almost always worth that extra 5C elsewhere in the case and the decibels can be handled easily with a better case.

@SullenSecret

9 жыл бұрын

PrimeSonicYT Sure, but he could have also shown a best-case scenario to balance the demonstration out. Not explaining it leaves the video rather biased.

@seanyflan

9 жыл бұрын

You obviously didn't watch the video. Everything you're bitching about was explained within the first two minutes.

I would like to see a video on this topic again, however tested in a case with better airflow (like you mentioned), but most importantly with SLI/Crossfire. I'd like to see the obvious two configuration blower/blower and "spinner"/"spinner" (aftermarket), but also blower/"spinner". 3-way SLI/Crossfire doesn't interest me personally since it's not something I'd ever intend to do, but it would be interesting to see as well. 2-way seems like the more useful one for the viewers, since that's quite common.

What i did with my GTX 970 ACX 2.0 was this; I got a corsair tower and installed a fan blowing over the card directly out the back, thereby pushing the hot air from the card out.

Have never seen that kind of beauty in so small chassie. I want that NUC Please !!! Great video as always Linus. Merry Christmas

Awesome video! I myself am currently working on improving airflow in my case (300r) after getting my new 970 G1 Gaming. With the aftermarket GPU cooler, my CPU temps playing BF4 are ~5c higher. The rear exhaust also feels super warm.

I was running two asus dcII 280x cards mining altcoins, in a crappy ncix-special case. My solution to cooling was to remove all of the pci card case slot covers, and using all the case fans to blow inwards. The high pressure inside the case forced air out of the case around the cards. Things were actually pretty quiet and cool doing it this way. Putting my hand behind the case, over the pci slots, I could feel a nice stream of warm air.

One of the best video of the year. Useful for the majority of users (real world test/bench that affect most of us PC gamers). Test in a real case size that the majority of people use (mid-tower). I was actually debating on either buying a reference or manufacturer card thinking the non-reference card are more quiet! I prefer the style of the reference card and will probably go with one instead!

I think the way you're promoting future videos is much more comfortable. Great job listening to your viewers! :)

I have the reference cooler for my gtx 760 inside my silver-stone fotress case. With the blower fan blowing hot air from the gpu out of the case and the two 180mm air penetrator fans that basically create a massive column of cool air, my temps are around 65-70 on load. The style of cooler really depends on the how the movement of air is in your case.

7 years and I didn't come across this sooner. How do you feel about the RTX 3070 TURBO?

It would deffinetly be nice to have some more system configurations, so a trend can be extracted. for example what will probably be something like good airflow go for open cooler and limited airflow buy blower. The most interesting part would be in mini ITX systems and very small cases to see how a lan pc does react and also how they react with blowers vs open in an SLI/Crossfire setup both right next to each other and with big spacing

The jab at chairs is spot on 😂😂

I wonder if the stock blower would be able to keep up better if the case had beefy side panel and bottom intake to pull more cool air into the blower.

I had an idea what about ducting the card sort of like the reference card but more. Add a cooler and duct work (tube with cool air going trough it) - Like air conditioning for the CPU and GPU. This would cool the component and then exhaust the heat out of the case completely. This would seem to solve all sorts of issues imo.

That's why I always go with reference blower cooler. Running reference 980 2xSLI and my rig runs so cool. :)

I'd like to see this test repeated in a case with better airflow and with a more traditional aftermarket CPU cooler (as almost every enthusiast on the planet uses). Some more ideas for possible configurations, if you have time, would be to try out both air and closed loop liquid coolers on the CPU for both the reference and internal exhaust graphics cards, and possibly test a dual-GPU configuration as well to see how they effect that.

I wonder how much the difference is in SLI. Care to investigate more, Linus? I think it would be really cool for you guys to really dive into this topic because it is a huge part of buying different video cards. Especially for folks like me that need the ENTIRE system to run well for rendering, video editing, playing ArmA 3, etc. Or those of use looking to run very nice cases and multi-GPU configs, as well as maybe even comparing a few of the common, popular options for non-reference cards (Strix, Windforce, Frozer/whatever it's called, etc) to see if any of them are any better. I might actually consider going reference with my upcoming GPU upgrade. I plan on going SLI 980s and I do a fair amount of non-gaming, heavy computation on my PC so having the rest of my system, especially my CPU, run cooler would be huge. Granted though, the 780ti is much hotter than the 980 so I'm still not sure. Doesn't hurt that I can get reference cards at work for pretty much $500 on the dollar and quicker than I'd probably get non-reference cards at this point. Although boy I sure would love a couple of Strix cards...

I remember when my Vega 56 would ramp up. Thing sounded like it wanted to take off lol

I think this was a very interesting video because for Christmas I asked for the NVIDIA reference GTX 970 due to aesthetics. I got the EVGA ACX 2.0 version but not the FTW and now that I have seen how much cooler it runs, I am glad I got the EVGA(plus the blue on the EVGA card matches my system).

I think a nice cpu cooler would have helped the cpu a bit and brought the difference between open air and blower configurations down. The noctua d14/15 takes air directly from the front of the case and shoots it right out the back, it does not swirl the hot air downward onto the board like the stock intel heatsink. In my own case, two 6850 saphire cards did not cause any noticeable cpu temp increase (4790k stock) when I was using my Noctua d15. The cooler simply routes the air properly and negates the side effect of the open air coolers. The tempratures were the same when the cards we removed and I was using my Intel HD graphics. Lastly, the 780ti actually has a decent stock cooler unlike AMD cards. The 290x is a disaster when used with a reference cooler. Had Linus went with a 290x he would have found that ALL open air cooled cards were quieter and faster which is easily worth the few extra degrees added to the entire system. The Mobo and VRMS were not overheating and the cpu would have been holding strong with a nice cooler. Dont use a stock cooler on an i7. The main reason for the louder system (open air) was most likely due to the intel heatsink ramping up to 3500rpm to keep the cpu cool (a cpu that would already be overheating with that junk cooler in the first place.) Linus, I would have liked to have seen you use a budget cooler like the hyper 212 simply because using an i7 with a stock cooler is kind of irresponsible, especially when you know its not acquitted for a heavy game like crysis 3.

Very interesting. I would like the same test on the r9 290. Stock cooler would throttle a lot and aftermarket cooling allowed better cooling, but would heat up your system allot. Currently I'm running 2x r9 290x from sapphire, with a fx-8350 @ 4.8 ghz with a h110 cooler, sabertooth 990fx gen3 motherboard inside nzxt h630. I'm getting max 80degrees on my videocards and under heavy load 60 degrees on my cpu. Got all be quiet silent wing 2 fans (140mm) and 2x NZXT 200mm fan intake in the front. PSU seasonic plat 1kW. Also I'm not so happy about the amount of choice there in on the market for 140mm SP fans, only one I really know is the noctua industrial, but yeah it costs allot of $$. Am maybe going to buy two, to test the cooling together with the h110 Great show! Love all the topics you guys cover. Greets from The Netherlands!

Thank you for the tease of your upcoming computer chair review. I have been comparing chairs for about 4 months and I would be interested to hear your opinion. One aspect of chair reviews I have noticed is the lack of comparison between a target audience gamer chair and a true ergonomic chair. I hope you do not forget this important part. Thanks for all your great videos over the year. Keep up the great work.

I use an h440 with all 6 fans on the front and top set for intake with my blower 980ti and 4790k+krakenx41 blowing out the back. Works really well!

Aside from performance, reference heat spreader is better-suited for SFF builds. Keep the heat out, yo ! I own a reference gtx670, it's 5yo now, and it was running at 40C at idle ! I took it for a spin, removed the cooler, cleaned the base of thermal paste, washed it with hot water (inlet it cool after :D), applied some Arctic MX-4, and boom, idle at 27~30C, under load at 70C with the fan having headroom for acceleration (about 35% out of max speed was used !)

how about a simple rig test comparison for internal cooler cards ,but arranging the case fans different from sucking to blowing /pos/neg pressure amounts etc and see how much difference it makes on case temps and GPU temps

)) that's what I run for 3 years - Windforce in a small non cable-managed case and single intake in the front and PSU on the top blowing hot air out the case. My HDD runs at 35*C idle and up to 40*C when on load for a long period of time - I'd say those are close to case internal temps Some of MoBo temps report as high as 50~55*C oh and the CPU idles at 40~45*C while GPU at 56~59*C while on load GPU doesn't go higher than 75*C on heavy GPU load and CPU doesn't go above 82*C when under heavy CPU and GPU load

Very interested in this topics! I have a silverstone FT03-mini and for me a Rear Exhaust GPU Cooleris a must

I'm getting really good at spotting his ads coming....I killed the video at "...And s-"

This was a great video. I have a Corsair 550D silence optimized case, which means I take everything into consideration for airflow, like PSU cabling etc. But when I built this rig I didn't even think of the differences between Rear/open air GPU cooler. Come the end of Summer I'll be hunting for a new GPU and at the top of my list will be a rear blower one. I don't really overclock my GPU much, but I do my CPU, on air, as such keeping in case temps down is important.

I wanted a new AMD graphics card in my computer which uses a internal exhaust card.. I had to completely change my fan layout to keep my mATX computer as cool as it was with my older rear exhaust card. I think open air cooler cards prefer slightly less air being pushed in the system than is drawn out so the fans can take air from other places and the case doesn't fill with excess hot air that way. Anyway, buying faster fans helped me a ton and made my CPU run cooler than before. (72c on a stock intel cooler during CPU intensive games) It is louder but an overal better performing system with loads of overclocking headroom on the graphics card was very welcome..

I think they had the blower design for tight cases. I have a ASus m5a97 le r2.0 and if I want to run two gpu an a audio card I need the first card to be a blower from the rear, a x1 pcie audio card , then another blower or open air cooled gpu. That way the audio card is not nut hugging the first gpu and covering the fan.

Please do the same test in a high end full size tower with 4 fans. This was a great video and always a concern of mine

I rely on my case fan configuration to keep my internals cooler while using an aftermarket fan cooler on my gpu. This is a good comparison for how to tackle the internal temp !

That NUC could be excellent for robotics applications. I was on an autonomous underwater vehicle team for my senior design course, and we used a miniature PC like that one for the non-microcontroller code. Ours was a bit smaller though, and it wasn't as powerful, but it did have a built-in power regulator, which was great for our battery-operated system.

so LinusTechTips, i saw mention of other configuration situations if we had ideas. - what about Cases that have a fresh air intake right where the GPU normally sits(like a fresh air intake on the side panel)? - what about if you have another Exhaust fan (probably a top exhaust)? - what about if you have more intakes in general for your Case? - what about if you use a Closed Circuit Liquid Cooler on your CPU? it's always a great idea to test these things out in the real world, as theorycrafting only does us so much good :p

I have the WindForce Radeon model. It's actually quite good, but on really demanding games it can be a bit loud, I agree. But it's not a huge deal for me right now, since it stays relatively cool regardless of how much it's working.

Would love to see VALUE comparison for GPU cooling on a moderately priced good case cooling scenerio! Looking at doing a build later this year with the best value build I can put together for Premiere and advanced After Effects work.

Very interesting, it comes at a great time because I have to educate my friend on what GPU to buy for Star Citizen. He has a case with bad airflow so I thought blower cooler and this video just confirmed it. Thanks :)

I have two EVGA GTX 760s in SLI. I also have a ranger DIY case, and I keep good temperatures (maybe because I have an extra 120mm fan on the side that releases air.). I can hear the fans running, but it isn't an unbearable noise level.

Love this video! Not very technical, but at the same time, it adresses a very common scenario, and does in a very ell explained way! This is more in the direction LTT was headed before, and I don't mind going back there.