Enjoy the new video, guys! Also, next week, I'll post the first "Lit Mobile" follow-up episode, so be sure to tune in for that! Also, special thanks to Linode for sponsoring this video.

@orlandoarroyo7278

4 жыл бұрын

Still no arrival yet?

@SudosFTW

4 жыл бұрын

DISREGARD my chat comment about needing the intel i915 kext. you need the one for the GeForce Go 7300, Details are in this insanelymac thread: www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/129035-geforce-go-7300/ as far as getting it going, and it looks like you need to use... NVInject?

@TobStonk

4 жыл бұрын

Could it even load linode?

@kevin34ct

4 жыл бұрын

Should have installed an SSD using a SATA to PATA daughterboard. It would be marginally faster.

@osc-omb47896

2 жыл бұрын

Learn to pin your comments

Finally, a high quality video showing the Apple TV 1st Gen running OS X.

@pr9334

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@lachlanscott2250

4 жыл бұрын

Legit been waiting for this

@8834

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine if it was just 144p lol

@andrive

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@JamesnLollify

4 жыл бұрын

@@rodrigochen7927 Find a second gen. I'm pretty sure those on older versions of tvOS (Pre-iOS, Pre-True tvOS) ran on modified Mac OS, so you could possibly get Windows 10 on there. Why? Because to handle Mac OS X better, It most likely would have a Core processor instead of a Pentium or Celeron.

The Apple TV doesn't have a Core M, those weren't a thing until 2014. The Apple TV uses the Pentium M.

@dsmandras

4 жыл бұрын

Jamie Champion yeah it was a Pentium M. Based off the Pentium III

@Nicolas-qc3jf

4 жыл бұрын

wait, so you're telling me pentium cpus are hackintoshable? what?? isn't a core 2 duo the bare minimum?

@AnonymousFreakYT

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nicolas-qc3jf Nope, Pentium M could run the earliest Mac OS X Intel builds. I ran it on a Pentium M HP laptop back in the day. I don't know if Snow Leopard will work, though. The Core Solo in the very first generation Intel Mac Mini was basically a Pentium M - Core Solo was technically a single-core Core Duo, and Core Duo was basically a dual-core Pentium M.

@mspeter97

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nicolas-qc3jf The Apple DTK ran on a Pentium 4 so yeah, they had Mac OS running on stuff earlier than a Core 2. And by earlier I mean the CPU needs to support SSE3

@IchWillNicht0119

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nicolas-qc3jf Ran a hackintoshed Compaq laptop with a Celeron M CPU for 3 years, which is the same generation as a Merom-L Core 2 Solo. Ran Snow Leopard with Quartz even better than the native Vista with Aero. The first-year Macbooks used 32-bit Core Duos and as others have said the dev kits used Pentium 4s.

Yo Ken The reason why Tiger doesn’t run well on the Apple TV 1st Gen is because of the lack of working hardware acceleration (when you deleted those Nvidia Kexts) Leopard doesn’t have problems with the Nvidia Kexts I recently got macOS X Leopard running on the Apple TV 1st Gen that is fully bootable, it also has QE/CI Hw acceleration working already if you want a hard drive image of it

@CGGaT

4 жыл бұрын

I can make a vista profile pic better than that

@BilisNegra

4 жыл бұрын

Cool! Really wish they'll try that (if there's really going to be a follow up episode at all, that is). Otherwise would be happy to see it demoed elsewhere. Really interesting.

@appleinfl

4 жыл бұрын

This and one of those PATA m.2 adapters with an SSD would be interesting to see

@gioelececchinii

4 жыл бұрын

yo windows vista send me an installation disc and s valid ultimate product key

@shane3455

4 жыл бұрын

Id love a copy of that hard drive image too!?

Thats awesome!

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Thanks for watching. I'm surprised it worked on the first try. Well… Brent is way smarter than me, so I guess it wasn't a surprise. x_x

@alisonbolinger8700

3 жыл бұрын

Only one reply, till now!

@FOSSware_360

3 жыл бұрын

@@alisonbolinger8700 Excuse me... Count again

@vinitapitambaran6615

3 жыл бұрын

Hi hugh I'm your fan

@yohantech2899

3 жыл бұрын

Hugh Jeffreys And Computer Clan!!!

Me: Can i get a mac mini! Mom: We have a mac mini Mac at home

@carlosortiz1224

4 жыл бұрын

Mac n cheese

@8834

4 жыл бұрын

Mac "mini"

@naraydaniels7832

4 жыл бұрын

Nvm mom thx

@andrive

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@virtualtools_3021

4 жыл бұрын

mac miniest

With only 256MB of RAM, it's probably swapping to disk whenever you [min/max]imize windows. Run Activity Monitor to see what it's doing exactly. It may also have something to do w/ not having QE/CI.

@Kbrooks777

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Jorgensen came here to say exactly that lol.

@maxmara9864

2 жыл бұрын

They even made it onboard RAM maybe they never intended for anyone to boot MacOS on this

@icraftcrafts8685

Жыл бұрын

DosDude1 has added ram in 2022

"It's not going to that fast, because it has a spinning hard drive and a Core M" Me with a hard drive and an i7: *bottleneck intensifies*

@sadmac356

2 жыл бұрын

Ouch. I feel that pain

@rockpie.squashfs

3 ай бұрын

Me with an SSD and a 4th gen i5: *bottleneck intensification intensifies*

Technically since the Apple TV is apple hardware it technically doesn't break the licence agreement. Absolute genius.

@antikommunistischaktion

4 жыл бұрын

**Me running El Capitan in a KVM instance on Arch Linux** What license agreement?

@RBVJnt

3 жыл бұрын

Same on unsupported macOS

@e.6z1

3 жыл бұрын

@@antikommunistischaktion i use Arch btw

@Reichstaubenminister

2 жыл бұрын

@@e.6z1 Sent from my iPhone

@rockpie.squashfs

3 ай бұрын

@@antikommunistischaktion Me running Catalina in a VMware Workstation 16 VM on Windows 10: no one reads the license agreement

So this was how the mac mini was invented.....

@BilisNegra

4 жыл бұрын

Except the mini predates this machine by over two years, with the first iteration coming up in the very late PowerPC era.

@MaddTheSane

4 жыл бұрын

@@BilisNegra That was the boxy version. The squatter version and Apple TV 1 came out around the same time.

@BeesonsCars

4 жыл бұрын

Madd the Sane the squatter version came out in 2009 or so. The Apple TV first generation came out in 2006-2007.

@jellepetje

3 жыл бұрын

The first flat aluminum Mac mini was introduced in mid-2010. Before that it was the older smaller but taller aluminum and white design which came from the G4 Mac mini which was introduced in 2005. In 2006 it went intel up to the last version in this design the late-2009. Meanwhile, the Apple TV was officially introduced in 2007 and previewed as a hobby project in 2006.

What’s the most graphical program you think this’ll run? Ken: M a i l

Fun fact: on Mac, pressing [shift] + [command] + [.] shows hidden files.

@ims2129

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that shortcut was only introduced in Yosemite/El Capitan

@gbfgtki

4 жыл бұрын

It was introduced in Sierra ;)

@MatiEP09

3 жыл бұрын

@GD Marble010 nope

@TylerFurrison

2 жыл бұрын

Took them plenty of time... All the desktop environments I've used has that, but Alt+.

9:59 i like how in the reflection of the screen you can see how genuine their reactions were

Ken as a fellow Mid 07 iMac user it makes me happy to see one on the show

With all of that hair, you would think these guys have a hair dryer around to remove that nasty ass glue.

@tommy-jf4xh

4 жыл бұрын

Yuck

@tommy-jf4xh

4 жыл бұрын

No shower taking ahh lmao 💀

@sadmac356

3 жыл бұрын

Probably just didn't think of it at the time

I think the sound might be inductor whine. The DC-DC inverter's inductors could be carrying higher peak currents or having larger changes in current flowing through, causing the coil to vibrate more due to magnetic forces. Inductors don't have to be so audible - they can have silastic to prevent/absorb vibrations, or would tightly enough against its ferrite core. Thanks for another great episode!

"Do you have your installation media for Tiger?" "No!" Idk why but that got me

Pentium M, NOT Core M.

@andrive

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

I’ve heard of this being done but it’s great to see it been done in HD and well documented. Nice work folks!

Well. now i gotta pull out my TV from the drawer to experiment too, awesome video dudes! always wanted to do that but didn't think it was possible

Hello. is it possible to upload any other system on Apple TV of the 3rd generation? reason? no KZread which was very important to me. please help

So, did the Apple TV 1st gen work as far as have movies installed on it to play? Can it be attached to a Powermac G4 and TV, load it with movies and get it to work?

I have a wired issue with the atv1. if I plug ethernet in the atv1 stutters badly...don't know what it does. If I sync files over and unplug ethernet everything is OK. I bought a second one and it does the same....?!? crazy

That stereo sound, awwww you guys made at 19mins 07seconds that was worth the wait, made me laugh. Well done boys

Does the component video still work properly?

I believe that the slow animations, apart from QE/CI acceleration that doesn't work, is because of the incorrect CPU busratio frequency. You may notice that the clock is also slow. (like in Sys prefs - > date and time).

Just a thought, maybe it was already suggested but would a PATA to SATA converter gizmo thing and a SATA SSD help with the performance?

Great Video! Is there a way to install macOS on a USB to then boot off of on the Apple TV? Or put the os installer on the usb and boot that from the Apple TV? And would the process be the same for MacOS leopard?

random thought. could it be possible to install Apple TV's OS onto a Late 2011 MBP (or mid-2012 MBP as I might just do a logic board transplant into my late 2011 15" with knackered AMD graphics), further more, would it be possible to do so via a virtual machine install.

Hi there, mind if you provided the image file of TVos? I want to experiment with it.

What can be done in therms of modding about those newer apple tv?

Is it possible to do anything like this on a second-gen apple TV?

Really enjoyed this :D kinda reminded me of myself trying to install Mac OS Leopard on my G4 eMac ages ago

I am Japanese and watch your videos using automatic translation. I love your videos!

Very nice. Wondering if you could do the Mac key commands or flash the ROM with a different Mac or something so you could fix certain issues.

yeah i got debian installed on my gen1 apple tv, and it can't get into the login screen..... maybe i'll try install mac os x on it sometime

Can someone tell me the EXACT disk they're using?? Ive been bashing my head against the desk trying over and over with the wrong disk every time.

Just out of curiosity, Can I buy a new old stock Apple TV box and use it as a local NON internet, non registered standalone media files player that allows me to load my mp3s and mp4 files from a plugged in USB drive like an ipod?

19:32 “we’re in” Love it :) lol

instead of using dd, cant you create an image using disk utiliy?

This is a really interesting project. I had thought that because the video hardware on the Apple TV had a proprietary driver to support the streaming, this support was not available as part of the MacOS system. If there is a way to get the video driver from the Apple TV OS to run under MacOS, would that improve video playback and performance?

Could you also try the opposite and run the TV OS on the iMac by swapping/bless(ing) the kernel with the one from the Tiger OS X, along with the EFI and the nVidia & ethernet kernel extensions that it needs? (Or even all of them) Maybe it will boot that way and if it does it should definitely be much faster than the AppleTV itself. Also on dd you can press Ctrl-T at anytime to see the status/performance and you can also use ddrescue instead of dd if you install it through Mac ports or through the Homebrew project along with a lot of other Linux utilities.

Hi I always listen that mi phone has more memory and a faster processor than the old pcs. Can you try to install an old MacOs in a new iPhone?

The hair behind the ear pieces of the glasses just made me scream silently for 29 minutes. Really brainiac Brent??? really?

Can't you use status=progress with dd to get info about what it's doing

Blent, Ken's new best friend.

Back in 2010 or so our school have each student a MacBook. Front row was disabled for some reason, but it would spawn a pop-up that would re-appear each time you hit "ok". If you didn't like someone you could hit command-escape on their laptop and they'd have a pop-up that wouldn't go away until they rebooted their computer.

Ok, where did you get a Intel version of 10.4? I've been looking forever and have only been able to find PPC versions

@NobelTech

3 жыл бұрын

Macintosh Garden is the most recommended place. You will need the MacBook version of 10.4.8

Just came from the PS5 Event, Great Video Ken 👍🏻

Hi did you reserve that lit mobile product ??

where can I find those kexts?

Can you thiis backwards and see if you could boot Apple TV software on Mac mini

please explain how you pass the kernel black screen need help

Super awesome! I have two of these first gen ATVs sitting in the closet...perhaps I can try this too

Is it possible to load appleTV onto a mac or on a hackintosh device?

Man it’s like I’ve travelled back to the early 2000’s with that hair!

1:40 Flashbacks to KKTM #50 with the "Well, there goes our effects budget." moment. One of my favorite scenes from the series.

I got excited when the AppleTV boot logo showed up on the Mac. That would be really funny to see.

idk if it’s on that version of dd but you can add status=progress to the command to see progress

So impressed now to break through tge computer thingy 👍

will this work better on a gen 3 ??

Wonder if this is going to be possible now that there is mac os version for m1/a12. That should theoretically work on Apple TV maybe even previous gen.

17:34 Best Brainiac -Blent- Brent moment right there!

does the progressive output still work and is it a mirror of the hdmi?

@badspecgamer128

4 жыл бұрын

also give it an ssd

Brainiac Brent on the otherhand, did not get a haircut.

@vondahe

4 жыл бұрын

Please allow us to sponsor a haircut. It wasn’t cool in 1973 and it’s no better in 2020.

You can use the key combination CTRL+T to see the progress of the `dd` command

This was already done years ago but I'm still going to watch this :P

how can i install mac os on apple tv 4? Apple announced the apple silicon thing so there is a way

“Conveniently, that is the exact version on this disk!” Wow, as someone who does a lot of debugging, you may as well have just won the lottery.

"brent is gonna bless the hard drive" brent: bless you hard drive

Call out to Adiblasi? Wow you know you're an old school KZread user when this happens! Well done Ken! Golden era!

@desther7975

4 жыл бұрын

Surely it's still too soon to be talking about "old school KZread" anything.

He really do be looking like jar jar binks had a love child with Sinjin from victorious

@devnol

2 жыл бұрын

Why is this comment so not incorrect

Oh man, back in the day this was THE go-to machine for car-PC integration. Throw 10.4 on it, maybe swap the HDD with a nice CF card for stability and it was perfect. Thanks for the cool way-back here!

i love this song at 4:27 minute! what title does it have?

The inside of it is honestly pretty cool

4:39 That is a shock pad, they use an adhesive tape to keep it in place. They get gummy after a few years.

Entertaining af. Awesome work guys

“What do you think the most intensive app this thing will be able to run is?” “MAIL.”

Can you load iPad os on a modern  TV so it would be like a virtual iPad with mouse and keyboard support

I have an idea. iirc, the Apple TV OS is just modded Mac OS X 10.4.7. And that 2007 iMac is probably too new to boot that (didn't it ship with like 10.4.11?). Would it boot on an older Mac tho? (I didn't read the kernel panic, I just thought of this and wanted to share)

Just an FYI if you hit command + escape through remote desktop it will activate front row...... on the currently logged in user which in my case happened to be a computer at a church hooked to a projector running slides.......

Does the remote do anything?

Hi guys, great video I am trying to run a Minecraft server on my old Mac mini 10.6.8 could you guys help make a video on how to set up a Minecraft server on a Mac mini as you seem to know what your doing when it comes to Mac computers. I have no clue thanks

Hmmm does this mean the new Apple TV (with apple 'sililcon') could run the new MacOS for apple sillicon announced?

You guys should see if you can get the apple tv software running on the iMac and how well. Maybe move all the kernel and kexts and stuff but from MacOS instead? Great vid anyhoo.

If OS X runs Intel and can be installed on the older Apple TV devices, then macOS for Apple Silicon ought to be able to be installed on the newer Apple TV devices, right?

On the BSD version of dd you can press Ctrl-t while it's running to print out a status. On a GNU version you can start it with the flag status=progress

Can you try batocera On the Apple TV 1gen?

What's the song used in the outro?

@KrazyKen, can you please upload the backup file of the Apple TV please!

Since you backed up the Apple TV software, can you hack it to run on "newer" hardware?? Like a Hackintosh?

@graphicsgod

4 жыл бұрын

Love to see this image put online for Apple hackers..

When it was stuck on the blue screen when you were shutting it down it was trying to say “ *it is now safe to turn off your computer* “

when i opened my APTC 4th gen somehow i didn’t break the back rubber case, lol. it looks simmalar to the one on the apple tv!

I want more of this, this is amazing! Please make a followup episode! :D

@ComputerClan

4 жыл бұрын

I might! I gotta do some research first, but if I discover worth-while stuff, I will do a follow-up!

@Castawot.

3 жыл бұрын

@@ComputerClan windows 10 on Apple TV?

@Castawot.

3 жыл бұрын

@@ComputerClan or linux

@TOMI-ro7yr

3 жыл бұрын

@@ComputerClan gaming on it. Try it

Why would you do a Move command instead of a Copy?

I know on the GNU port of `dd`, you can specify `status=progress`. Not sure if that's a thing on the Darwin port.

hi, i think this video need an update. big sur can install on arm. i think big sur can install on apple tv 4th & 5th gen. am i wrong? : )

Ken and Brent, You Guys Are the Best! Keep It Up!

also, you could speed it up a bit by using an SSD (using an IDE to SATA converter) but I'm not entirely sure how the older Mac OS X would react to the newer solid-state storage, my guess it would be that it detects it as a USB although I don't think that would happen because you're using the SATA interface, it will be interesting nonetheless to see what happens

@sugarbooty

4 жыл бұрын

PATA*

@IAmMan-

4 жыл бұрын

Using a pata to msata adapter, I get about 82MB/s with instant seeking times, but I've never tried OSX with this. This is probably the best way to go, as you wont have any problems closing the case, can remove the fan and make it totally silent (the case will be cooler using a msata with the fan disabled, than with the fan active + a spinning disk) and it's also seems to be the fastest, almost saturating the 100MB/s PATA interface). I also have a pata to sata adapter that i got ages ago and with this I got about 60-66MB/s. I remember that using this, OSX Leopard 10.5.8 "wasnt too bad". Using the msata adapter should be even better. The fast SSD is almost like getting extra ram.

Can someone tell me what music is on 24:47? Awesome beat.