Thanks bro! I just installed my new Suzuki 25 and your video made it easy! Saved me 700 bucks having the dealer do it!

@tomspontoons

2 ай бұрын

Great! That's why we started the channel. If DIY folks are willing to tackle these projects then they should have a detailed guide to help along the way. I'm never ashamed to ask for you to pass along some of the money you saved if the video helped you out in order to support the channel: www.buymeacoffee.com/tomstoons

Still helping people... thank you for the video

@tomspontoons

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

Thank you so much, you saved me, just bought the same motor from a warehouse and they had nothing about the install.

@tomspontoons

3 ай бұрын

It’s a great outboard and one that can be purchased from dealers and online retailers for home installation. I figured it would be a great video for DIY folks out there!! Thanks for watching, glad it helped!!

Thanks for posting. A great, intuitive step by step video. I'm looking at the new 30hp zuke for an inflatable I'm gonna be building. Thanks to this video I'm confident I can rig it myself. Thanks!

@tomspontoons

3 ай бұрын

Excellent! Thanks for watching! This 25 is the same as the 30...you'll love it on your inflatable. They're so quiet and smooth, but have great power too!

Installing my 25 hp this weekend on a Jon boat w/side console and this video is grand, no surprises expected with your video giving some much insight to install the new motor.

@tomspontoons

Ай бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for watching and for the comment.

Something therapeutic and educational about watching these come together into a working boat again , as a new used pontoon owner , thanks for the videos !

@tomspontoons

2 жыл бұрын

We’re glad you’re enjoying our content!!! Thanks for watching, we will keep trying to put as much educational stuff out there as possible!

Thank you, thank you, thank you! this video is perfect for those of us who ignore Suzuki's warning not to do the install as a DYI. My closest boat service/dealer is a 4 hour drive. A couple of items that I would love to see you cover, lower unit oil and final adjustments of the shift and throttle cables at the engine. I am new to boat engines and the info Suzuki sends is useless for service work and install. I just don't want to mess anything up.I wish I had seen this before I ordered whole new deck furniture from Pontoon Stuff, that 5% would have been nice, Cheers!

@tomspontoons

2 ай бұрын

I can't imagine Suzuki would sell them by the thousands to OnlineOutboards . com if they were worried about DIY folks installing them. Hopefully a video like this will prevent any silly goof-ups from folks at home too. At the motor I like to have a little wiggle room of the shift arm on the engine both directions as opposed to being pinned to the back or forward of neutral. And for throttle I like it relaxed, but without a doubt put in lowest idle possible. Maybe shoot an email or call over to Pontoon Stuff to see if they'll help you out (assuming it wasn't too too long ago). Worst case, it'll let them know that my channel is helping their customers out with their projects and I would certainly appreciate that BIG TIME! I always love to strengthen my relationship with the companies I work with.

@jeffreygilmer4185

2 ай бұрын

@@tomspontoons Thank you for your response, those hints helped. I just bought the motor and restoration pieces a month ago. The folks at Pontoon Stuff and Outboard Direct were great. Thanks to your help I'll be firing up the engine for the first time in a just a bit. The Suzuki manual actually has in their "warning statements" at every step, "Do not attempt DYI!" and the instruction manual has no initial set up info only basic service. I guess it's the only complaint I have, but the motor is fantastic. I am just grateful you spent the time to video the setup. Cheers!

@tomspontoons

2 ай бұрын

@@jeffreygilmer4185 I get it for warranty sake, but another angle for them would be to provide better information for the DIY folks who are going to install it themselves anyway!!

Thank You! Having followed another video I had mine all hooked up but wasn't sure what the extra wire plugs were for. You answered that question, guages. Of course! Thank You

@tomspontoons

23 күн бұрын

Glad I could be helpful! Thanks for watching!

Just bought a 20 horse Suzuki remote. This was extremely helpful. Thank you very . I refer to it multiple times.

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

GREAT CHOICE! You'll love that little fuel injected motor! Thanks for watching, I'm glad this video helped you out along the installation.

This was a very big help in installing my new 25hp Suzuki :) I saw that there are two diagrams for the swing arm steering installation. You went with the DF20/25 diagram. The diagram for the DF25A/30A which is mounted on top of the motor steering plate was problem free to install. Also I used a 31/64" drill bit for snug holes through the transom, with marine silicone to make them water tight. You really saved me lots of problems with my install! Many thanks for a great video!

@tomspontoons

2 жыл бұрын

So glad our video helped! And thank you for commenting those things you did. Hopefully it’ll help more folks watching the video and reading through the comments!!!

@WilliamDobbins

5 ай бұрын

noticed this too. that is why it was so hard to get the linkage to connect in the video as the difference is to install the linkage above the engine bracket vs below it.

I'm waiting for my delivery from online outboards of my white Suzuki 25 hp. with remote controls. This video is so helpful. It will step by step me through the installation. Thank you very much.😃

@tomspontoons

5 ай бұрын

Then this is the perfect video for you!! Hope it’s helpful and you can just follow right along pausing and playing when you need to.

I removed a 1989 mercury 90hp. Replaced with a 1998 yamaha 25hp 4 stroke. Amazing the bolt pattern was the same. All new controls. On a 24' pontoon used on No wake rivers

@tomspontoons

22 күн бұрын

Yep! It's about the only universal thing that exists in the marine industry!!! As long as the motor had power trim/tilt or gas assist tilt it should have the same bolt pattern as any other motor with the same features.

Thanks for the detail here. Watched another vid {which was helpful too, love KZread} but they didnt show close up the cable install which for me is the main thing i had questions on. Also just read another commenter saying the DF25/30A's have a different diagram so will be looking for that.

@tomspontoons

5 ай бұрын

Glad this was helpful. I try to focus on those things that I know confuse or make people hesitant to tackle these projects.

I researched all of the small outboards 9.9 to 50 hp for my pontoon project. I settled on the same motor your customer chose for this video. I was able to take the onlineoutboards and outboarddirect website prices to my local dealer and he was able to match their price 👍

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

That's fantastic! When I worked in the marine industry selling outboards for repowers sometimes I couldn't match those online prices without losing money. They get such great discounts and sell so many that they can afford to reduce margins to near nothing...glad you got the deal from a local place!

@J.W.W.

Жыл бұрын

I’m back to this video again, looking for an answer whether or not a key switch comes with the Suzuki control box in the package (mine will show up Monday). Also, my dealer called his Suzuki rep and talked to the rep about the two websites I showed the dealer, and that conversation is probably how my dealer buddy was able to get me the ‘Tennessee’ deal. 😊

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

@@J.W.W. It'll be the same control box I installed here. Side mount on the rail or console including the key switch and shift/throttle in one.

@J.W.W.

Жыл бұрын

Great! Thanks! What a nice way to get smaller outboards. Shipping is taking a bit longer than I hoped. It didn’t ship out until today. Oh well, I’m working on new wiring anyway.

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

@@J.W.W. It'll be worth it when it arrives!

Great video, took away my fear of doing my own installation!

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

Great!! That’s what we’re hoping all our videos help do!!

cool. installing mine on a center console soon. excited to see how this 30 does over my old 1979 envinrude 35 🎉

@tomspontoons

6 ай бұрын

That old of an Evinrude was probably only putting out about 20-25 hp at the prop versus the new 30 hp giving you all 30 horses. Should be a great upgrade, I’m sure you’ll love it!

@DailyDahaka

6 ай бұрын

that’s what i’m thinking, plus fuel injected 😊😊

@tomspontoons

6 ай бұрын

It’s just like starting a car, turn the key and it fires right up the same every time!

Super helpful video. I just followed along step by step.

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

Perfect!! That’s what we had hoped for with this video!!

I'm buying the exact engine. I've never installed one before so I'm going to watch your clip a bunch of times

@tomspontoons

2 жыл бұрын

You’ll love that motor!! Thanks for watching, hopefully we help make it smooth and easy for you!!

Great video, very helpful. Thanks

@tomspontoons

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. Glad it was helpful!

Thank you! Very helpful.

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help!!

Suzuki is a popular repower engine. It must be a good one. I was thinking of putting that engine on a rib boat. You explained it well.

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

Suzuki makes great outboards! They didn't grow in popularity in the US until about 10 years ago, and now you're seeing them as one of the top choices across most of the country. I've run several on my own boats in my years of boating, including the 200hp that's on our tritoon...can't say enough good things about my experience with Suzuki! Thanks for watching!

@1manshtshowandautobodystuf891

Жыл бұрын

I have a new 25hp from suzuki ready to repower my classic 72 glastron. Saving the original 68 mercury 2 stroke for originality reasons.

Very helpful video i have a tohatsu mfs 30 on a 20ft. if your planning to take alot of people with u make sure u have the correct prop pitch

@tomspontoons

2 ай бұрын

Tohatsu makes a great outboard too! I think that in general the best bet is to use a 25 or 30 hp outboard on a pontoon for slow cruising primarily. If you're always running it wide open throttle it's not going to move you any faster than 3/4 throttle, but the wear and tear on the engine is much higher. Use wide open if you need to escape a rain storm, but otherwise take it easy on the throttle as it can only push a non-planing hull like a pontoon so fast!!

Great video!

@tomspontoons

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Hope lots of folks can refer to it when installing their motors at home!

Very helpful nice job

@tomspontoons

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Happy to help!!

Can you unlock up to 30 KM? I see that they have the same capacity and different parameters. the difference is that 25 km reaches 6,000 rpm and 30 km reaches 6,300 rpm

@tomspontoons

7 ай бұрын

On a pontoon the extra 5 hp at the top end won’t change anything for you. The engine block being the same means the low end torque and mid range power will be identical. You only get the extra few Hp at absolute wide open. Save the money and buy the 25 hp….and don’t try to upgrade it with aftermarket kits because it’ll void warranty.

Got a brand new '21, 30hp! This confirmed a few things for me. (Was really wishing you showed how to hook a tach!) But nonetheless, great video. Thank you!

@chadfelmet6934

2 жыл бұрын

I DID however check another video of yours and seems like I'm set on the tach. Thanks again brother!

@tomspontoons

2 жыл бұрын

They’re great motors, you’ll love it!! Glad you found the tach video. Hopefully some day we will have a video of just about everything possible on every kind of boat and every kind of motor!

just bought the same motor...curious what all those extra plugs are for and how to install analog gauges (tachometer) to the engine harness

@tomspontoons

3 ай бұрын

You'd want to reach out to a local Suzuki dealer for a gauge harness. One of the plugs should have your power, ground, and tach sending wire. According to my chart, for Suzuki wiring: Gray is key on power, tach sending wire is yellow, and ground should be black. Find the plug with those colored wires and you should be good. Otherwise look into a gauge harness that would plug into a lead on the ignition harness and that should give you the wires you need for wiring in a tach.

Nice video

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Amazing video. My 30hp will be delivered tomorrow and I cant wait to install after watching your video. Did you need to add lower unit oil or do they ship it ready? Thanks again.

@tomspontoons

5 ай бұрын

Great!! Glad this was helpful for you. It will have gear lube in the lower unit ready to go for you. You’ll just need to add engine oil.

@spykeeable

5 ай бұрын

@@tomspontoons thank you so much. Big help for us.

@tomspontoons

5 ай бұрын

@@spykeeablehappy to help! Enjoy that new Suzuki!!!

I installed a 30hp a few years back. Seems like I should be getting a little more top end speed while I plane it out. Is there a way to adjust or check to see if I am missing any power on the top end?

@tomspontoons

5 күн бұрын

What kind of boat is it on? You could get a small engine tachometer than hooks to a spark plug wire and gives you your RPMs at wide open. I believe that motor should be turning close to 6,000 if it's one of the newer four strokes. If you're overloaded or under propped then it might not be able to run out to the optimal RPM range which would lose that top end HP for you.

Thanks for the detailed video, big help. How do I get a 6 pack to you?

@tomspontoons

2 жыл бұрын

While I love good beer, I haven’t figured that one out yet! We do have an account where subscribers can contribute a few bucks if we saved them from spending a fortune by doing it themselves at home: www.buymeacoffee.com/tomstoons Always appreciated so much!

this vid saved the day for me on my install of the same motor. I am wondering if anyone else if having problems getting the cowling to fit back on properly? I am having a bitch of a time. Any ideas are appreciated.

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped! Are you talking about the side cowl or the top cowl?

I just bought a 2023 25 Suzuki and it looks exactly the same as this install but my wiring harness has a lot more wirers to plunk in to I don't know what you know anything about the 2023 harness hook up and it is a df25a can you help my dealer does not even seem to know what they all go to and my controller don't seem to have the same connection for the trim and tilt

@tomspontoons

10 ай бұрын

What style control box are you using? I think they ship the harness with a bunch of yellow/orange wrapped plugs now, is that what you're working with? I've installed one with those this summer. I ended up bundling up a whole bunch of the extra wires on top of the pontoon under the deck and not using them. If I remember right, the trim and tilt is tied into the main plug. You'd have to send me an email with some pictures of your control box plugs and the harness plugs to get a better idea. TomsPontoons@gmail.com

What torque spec do you need to tighten the transom mounting bolts to? Can't seem to find a specification for my DF30?

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great question. In all my years working in the marina I never saw a mechanic use a torque wrench when mounting a motor. They’d always run them tight with an impact and then finish by hand tightening.

Great instruction vid told me everything I needed to know.Thanks bro from CT.

@tomspontoons

11 ай бұрын

Great!! Happy to help you out with your project!

GREAT PRESENTATION LEARNED A LOT THANK YOU

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

Great! Thanks for watching!

Got a suzuki 30hp. Question do I have to have my shifter in neutral when installing the cable in the control

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily, but you’ll definitely want to return it to neutral to install the motor side cable so that the neutral position is accurate.

I'm currently building a boat that I want to have two helm stations. This means two motor controls or an effective link from the primary to the second. Do you know of a simple way to accomplish this? There are some very expensive controls made that will do it but like I said... very expensive. Thanks.

@tomspontoons

5 ай бұрын

That sounds like a cool project. Unfortunately I've never tackled a dual helm situation, and I haven't really looked deeply into how they're set up. They're extremely rare up here in Michigan so I just haven't been exposed to them. I'm not sure what's possible with smaller HP motors. I think with hydraulic steering and fly by wire controls it's much simpler. I'm not surprised that there's a way to do it that's very expensive as it's such a unique setup with smaller hp outboards. Sorry I can't be of more help. I would reach out to the outboard brand you're working with to see if their engineers can help guide you. Best of luck with the project!

@jeff98110

5 ай бұрын

@@tomspontoons Thank you. I'll keep my thinking cap on!

Where do you guys buy your motors from? I want to rig my boat myself. Most local places want to include rigging in the price.

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

I purchase motors through a local marina (I used to work there) so they know that I am capable of installing. A lot of dealers want to protect themselves by installing it professionally for warranty sake...but they could sell you the motor, let you install it, and then you could pay them (usually $100-$150) to do a pre-delivery inspection to make sure you installed it correctly. Plus I'm sure they like the labor rate for installation when they do the work!! This 25 hp Suzuki can actually be purchased at Online Outboards and they'll ship it to your house. They do most brands up to 30 hp.

is the remote control lever switchable from one side to the other?

@tomspontoons

6 ай бұрын

Yes, I’m 99.9% sure it is. There’s a bolt that can be removed and the trim/tilt wires rerouted.

My husband just purchased a 2022 60 hp motor (new motor). He has installed the motor hooked everything up. Cant seem to get power to starter. Has power other places. Where he purchased the motor from the service dept keeps mentioning to him there should be a white wire from the EMC to the battery. He doesn't see a white wire. Can you advise on any ideas that may help him locate this wire. Or any suggestions to what else could cause this issue. Thanks

@tomspontoons

11 күн бұрын

I believe on that motor the white cable comes in the rigging box coiled up in a bag. It should plug into a single bullet style quick connect under the motor hood near where he plugged the ignition harness in. The wire under the hood will have the appropriate connector to meet the white wire he needs to run into the motor from the battery positive, that’s how my 140 Suzuki was anyway!!

@CindyBrazell-e6w

11 күн бұрын

​@@tomspontoons Thank you so much! We believe that cable was left out of the rigging box. He knows exactly where it should hook up.

@tomspontoons

8 күн бұрын

@@CindyBrazell-e6w Great! Hopefully you can order one from the dealer or have them get you a replacement.

@cindybrazell1482

8 күн бұрын

Found out yesterday the 60hp does not have the “white wire” The problem all along was in the shifter “neutral” was broken.

@tomspontoons

7 күн бұрын

@@cindybrazell1482 Great to know. I haven't installed one of those new 60 hp Suzuki's yet, so now I know! That neutral safety gets everybody at one point or another.

Replacing a 70hp Yamaha 1987 with a 40hp Suzuki on a 24 foot 1997 pontoon. Wondering if 40hp is enough…😅 Not pulling any tubers, but maybe 8-10 people from time to time…

@tomspontoons

20 күн бұрын

I've installed a 9.9 hp on a 24' pontoon in the past and they love it. It's on a small lake and they just use it to do laps or putts out to the middle to swim. A 40 hp will give you enough torque and power to maneuver at the dock and trailer, but certainly won't light up the speed records. Probably 10-12 mph with a full load.

You say that the engine "is ready for fuel and running" but you didn't show where the power lines out of the control box go. There's a bunch of cables there and at least one of them needs to go to power for the ignition, right?

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

The battery cables at the motor are what will power the starter and start the engine. The ignition harness plugs into the control box to give signal to the starter solenoid to fire the starter to start the engine. There are several other leads including the trim/tilt wires and wires for a potential gauge harness. The alarms are built into the ignition harness and horn is at the key switch which is helpful because most folks running a 25 hp on their pontoon aren’t so much concerned with gauges. It’s nice to be able to wire them in if need be though!

@RobertPWills

Жыл бұрын

@@tomspontoons Ahhh! Thanks! I'll just bundle them up and tuck them under the console then.

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

@@RobertPWills happy to help!!

Did the motor come with the cable ends?

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they should be with the motor and with the control box.

Would you say that a 25 or 30 horse is sufficient for an 18 foot pontoon? Would there be additional wear and tear due on the motor to it’s smaller size?

@tomspontoons

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely 100% sufficient! We have installed 9.9 and 20 hp motors on 18' boats...and even a 9.9 hp high thrust on a 24 pontoon. You're typically going to want that size motor because you know you're going to just be puttsing around the lake just above idle. It'll never go very fast so there's no need to push the engine hard all the time. Just puttsing around the lake with a 25 hp will add no more wear and tear than puttsing around with a 60hp. Most 25 hp and 30 hp outboards are identical (literally just tuned slightly different at the computer) to where there would be no benefit to going to a 30 hp over a 25 hp on a pontoon. The 25 hp is a sweet spot because it's usually a 3 cylinder, much smoother, and much quieter than the twin cylinder 20 hp and under options. Hope this helps!

@josephmeade9595

9 ай бұрын

Very Helpful information! Thank you. @@tomspontoons

@tomspontoons

9 ай бұрын

@@josephmeade9595happy to help!

Why not HDPE instead of plywood?

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

I don’t see why a high density plastic wouldn’t work on a transom. We just replicate what we’ve seen and know works when working on customers’ boats.

@J.W.W.

Жыл бұрын

I've done both HDPE and Marine grade plywood. Advantages to both, but if you want the least amount of vibration and noise transferring to the boat, wood is best.

@tomspontoons

Жыл бұрын

@@J.W.W. Good to know! The outboard manufacturers have moved to softer and softer mounts (especially in the smaller outboards) to reduce vibration in the twin and three cylinder motors. Helps a lot!

@J.W.W.

Жыл бұрын

The three cylinder Suzuki versus the less expensive Tohatsu 20 hp two cylinder is why I spent the money on the Suzuki, hoping it’s smoother and quieter by getting more engine.