Inside The Navy's Indoor Ocean
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Thanks to Kelley Stirling and the Naval Surface Warfare Center, Carderock Division for the visit.
Thanks to Miguel Quintero and Capt. Todd E. Hutchison for talking to us about the important work going on in the Maneuvering and Seakeeping Basin.
Thanks to Dr. Georgy Manucharyan at the University of Washington for his help in understanding ocean waves.
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Webb, P. (2017). Introduction to Oceanography. Chapter 10: Waves. Online OER textbook. - ve42.co/Webb2017
Stewart, R. (2008). Introduction to Physical Oceanography. - ve42.co/Stewart2008
van den Bremer, T. S. & Breivik, Ø. (2018). Stokes drift. Phil. Trans. R. Soc. A. - ve42.co/Bremer2017
Monismith, S. (2020). Stokes drift: Theory and experiments. Journal of Fluid Mechanics, 884, F1. - ve42.co/Monismith2020
Young, I. R. (1999). Wind Generated Ocean Waves. Elsevier. p. 83. - ve42.co/Young1999
Wright, P. Island Physics. 4.2 Formation of Waves - ve42.co/IslandPhysics
American Bureau of Shipping. (2016). Guidance Notes on Selecting Design Wave by Long Term Stochastic Method. - ve42.co/ABS2016
James, S. & Stull, R. (2019). Wave Characteristics. UBC ATSC 113 - Weather for Sailing, Flying & Snow Sports. - ve42.co/James2019
Garrison, T. (2009). Oceanography: An Invitation to Marine Science (7th ed). - ve42.co/Garrison2009
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I love how even in the highest echelons of the United States scientific community, a foot ball stadium is the go-to metric to communicate area.
@goldensnitch5492
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@Bittertokken
Жыл бұрын
Most people i believe can visualize the size of a football field.
@gerald6656
Жыл бұрын
'merica
@charlymrivera7236
Жыл бұрын
is very small them
@ab3040
Жыл бұрын
Well they aren't gonna say soccer
The most interesting takeaway for me was, that different oceans require different strategies/ships. Until now, my perception of boat ranged from small to big, but not in the dimension of place of operation.
@Jack-ne8vm
Жыл бұрын
I was on 150' ships in Gulf of Mexico & Pacific Ocean. The first day on different water I'd be queasy from the difference.
@nitehawk86
Жыл бұрын
The most interesting takeaway for me is these people have a way more fun job than I do. :)
@O.D.91
Жыл бұрын
but what about "space-time"?
@warsurplus
Жыл бұрын
@knicklichtjedi and the fact that the CO had a stateroom with a large bed frame mattress while the crew are in racks the size of coffins.
@GriffinZambia
Жыл бұрын
*Dont_Read_My_Names* .😑 ..
This really makes me realize how incredibly intelligent humans are. To know the nature and derive equations and make these equipments for maximum safety it’s just beyond imagination which is made possible by humans if you really think about it, amazingly fearless and brave.
@randomnamemab
11 ай бұрын
@@Money37945lol
@Know3ody
10 ай бұрын
Mad how America can make such things as this but can't help 3rd world counties 😂 maybe this was funded by all the stolen oil money 💀
@justahugenerd1278
10 ай бұрын
I always find it so fascinating against the juxtaposition of the many ways we really are animals. We can make these amazing indoor oceans, all these spectacular feats of engineering, yet we still panic like we're prepared to fight, we still seek dopamine rushes because of programming, we still fear death and crave intimacy... To me, I find that to be the most incredible part. It's not like the way we evolved our intelligence made it replace those more primal instincts -- it was just added alongside them, added on top. I think that's what makes us so exceptionally complex too. If we were just one or the other, we'd be boring and predictable. Instead, we can harness both of them to do amazing things and live happy lives! :)
@jk7713
5 ай бұрын
Humans are idiots and we are slowly destroying this beautiful planet
@zangrygrapes4571
5 ай бұрын
@@Know3ody stay mad.
Maybe I'm just old or it's my love for the ocean, but this video got to my emotions. Also, just made me happy that the person being interviewed, seems to really love his job, and was probably so thrilled to be able to share a bit of the fascinating work he does. Really enjoyed this video.
@Carrymejane
2 ай бұрын
Yes❤
@Chanel31113
2 ай бұрын
Agree!
@theguyfromwalgreens
Ай бұрын
I wish I could have a job I love like this. This would be a blast to cover up with, but Inhave a better chance at learned Mandarin Chinese than understanding all of the math involved in stuff like this.
Damn the US Navy really just saw the ocean and was like "I want one"
@yaboi3839
Жыл бұрын
Space Force: *Heavy Breathing*
@isaacperkins9603
Жыл бұрын
@@yaboi3839 Space Force: *Chokes to death because they got what they wanted*
@wojciechbieniek4029
Жыл бұрын
@@isaacperkins9603 they've got it at Nasa's Plum Brook research centre
@isaacperkins9603
Жыл бұрын
@@wojciechbieniek4029 Yes...But *gravity*
@whannabi
Жыл бұрын
@@isaacperkins9603 heh...send it into space then. Isn't that the whole point of the ISS? Just do the same.
This is actually an amazing feat of engineering
@zubairzahid9259
Жыл бұрын
Nice
@hemantpatel1789
Жыл бұрын
@@zubairzahid9259 nice
@StormtrooperDoge
Жыл бұрын
A verified comment with under 1000 likes? WHAT!
@manueldasilva4395
Жыл бұрын
Yes, excellent site
@ener8035
Жыл бұрын
@@manueldasilva4395 Vietnam 3,000,000 Kills instantly. Throwing napalm on children from airplanes. 3,000,000 Dead after the US left due to chemical weapons pollution left behind. People are still born mutilated or dying by the same chemical weapons. Vietnam has the youngest population in the world. In 1968 there was talk in Washington about the use of nuclear weapons in Vietnam.
I really fear open water or even like vast deep dark bodies of water in general so this wave pool is terrifying to look at but at the same time I'm annoyingly interested in it so it's like I'm scared but I can't stop looking 😂
@crispymelonztwitch
Жыл бұрын
i feel the exact same way. like it’s so scary but so cool.
@trainsarethecoolest
8 ай бұрын
Yes!!! when he asked to swim in it I was like ...are u sure
@pchapmanus99
7 ай бұрын
Bro same lol
@user-zx8wt6pk7l
2 ай бұрын
why does the machines make it scarier or the fact that maybe there is something deep down there and they just haven’t checked properly or if i drown no one will notice
@lucy-rv1in
2 ай бұрын
@@user-zx8wt6pk7lomg yes I feel that as well! hahah
Shout out to Miguel! You are so nice to hear and learn from you, a reall keen and open personality to explain curiousities of your work!
This is important for those of us who have been out in the ocean and facing 50-70' waves. The US Navy has lost 16 ships due to weather since 1900 and many more prior to that. So as a former sailor I can understand how important this pool and the study of Hull design is.
@idontwantahandlethough
Жыл бұрын
70' waves is kinda hard to wrap my head around tbh lol, that's frickin nuts! Edit: is a wave measured from peak to trough, or is it measured from the middle of the wave (which I assume is sea level but idk) to top/bottom of the peak/trough? I'm a dirty landlubber so I tend to think about [ocean] waves in the wrong way. Despite what my brain wants to think, a wave isn't just a section where the water is higher, it's usually a place with a section of water _lower_ than normal *AND* a section of water that is higher (which is super obvious since that's basically the definition of a wave lol). So I guess my question is if a 70' wave is more of a swell from -35' to 35', or if it means the wave is literally 70' above sea level (which seems to me would mean it probably goes down roughly 70' below sea level too..? Is that the case?) Edit2: ah, p-p amplitude is the term is was looking for. Is a wave height measured by peak-peak amplitude, or half of that value (which is what most people call regular 'amplitude', I think), or some other third way I haven't thought of?
@steventrostle1825
Жыл бұрын
@@idontwantahandlethough In 1968 I was in a force 5 typhoon in the Tiawan Straights which is just incidently some of the roughest water in the world without a 150 MPH wind to drive it. It is a miracle that we survived in the 265' ship we were in.
@briancavanagh7048
Жыл бұрын
Its interesting how many ships have been lost to weather. Today with satellite weather imaging & reporting there should be no reason to run ships into conditions where there is a risk to the vessel & crew. Unless the command ignores the weather information.
@johnsmith1474
Жыл бұрын
They don't lose ships due to hull design, they lose ships do to error in operation. If your commander put you in 70 ft waves he's the problem.
@steventrostle1825
Жыл бұрын
@@briancavanagh7048 Well some ran aground in heavy weather about 5 in that 16 count, many more have found shallow water during that period but have not sunk. There is an old saying about Captains "there are those who have run agound and those who will run agound" Of course those who do are generally no longer comanding a ship.
When I see long distance, low frequency waves carrying energy all the way from a storm to the coastline, that's just swell.
@clockwork8548
Жыл бұрын
absolutely legendary comment here heh
@CzarToonz
Жыл бұрын
You dropped this: 👑
@GoCoyote
Жыл бұрын
Just as-well to coast on your puns!
@contrapasta2454
Жыл бұрын
👈😗👈
@kennarajora6532
Жыл бұрын
indeed it is
You know this guy loves his job when even his shirt is wind and waves. What a cool guy.
So cool, love Miguel 's reaction to that model "much bigger than this would terrify me". His ability to scale the pool to the real world is so second nature, what a unique and amazing job.
@cheezelizzard6707
Жыл бұрын
buddy
@getlazy956
Жыл бұрын
@@cheezelizzard6707m😮.
@cheezelizzard6707
Жыл бұрын
@@getlazy956 dad?
@cheezelizzard6707
Жыл бұрын
@@ot6443 hey buddy i think the website that you were running with that huge bucket dosnt work very well can you add a heavy irrigation Pivot?
I actually have a very very very big fear of indoor oceans like this. I went to a coast guard base in North Carolina in 2013 when I was in the Boy Scouts, and inside they had a wave pool, and a replica helicopter for practicing getting out of a submerged helicopter. Anyways, they turned on the pool and it started moving and I just had a secret panic attack and I was terrified. That was the day my fear was born. Watching this video is so freaking terrifying
@highlanderholyfield855
Жыл бұрын
I’d be terrified to swim in that water
@SDXStudio
Жыл бұрын
Hey- I've got an irrational fear of indoor pools like this too. It's really strange. I swam in pools my whole life- but my freshman year in high school we had a pool in the basement and to get to it you needed to climb down this really weird stair case. I always imaged my self slipping on the stairs, hitting my head, and then falling into the pool. If they are "nice" pools, I'm fine- like in a new fitness center or a gym or something. An example where I went to HS for senior year had a brand new Olympic swimming pool and I had no issues there.
@petalriver
Жыл бұрын
i also have a massive fear of indoor water like this, never knew that other people did too!!
@thejaydenbatts
Жыл бұрын
DBAB
@stephencollins9062
Жыл бұрын
Don't worry you will only remember it when you're going to sleep bro;)
As an engineering student - It's really fascinating to see some of these concepts in actual practice. In all of his content. I remember learning about Fr numbers last year and seeing how these scaling's for video time and vehicle speed represent the full scale models so accurately is so cool. I swear I learn better from his videos than I do from my actual classes 😂
It blew me away when I saw them standing next to the model and it was way larger than it appeared in the pool. In the pool it looks so tiny but that also made me realize how large the waves actually can become in there. Very amazing.
@jaraskur
Жыл бұрын
I am not sure if that really was the same model or just a larger scale model. But please prove me wrong
@Its_Me17
Жыл бұрын
Timestamp?
@SlackerU
Жыл бұрын
@@Its_Me17 17:27
@SlackerU
Жыл бұрын
@@jaraskur 8:35 it's the same model. It's a specific size for specific mathematical reasons.
@l1mbo69
Жыл бұрын
@@SlackerU there are ships of many diff sizes.. diff sized models for each size
Super interisting, love the way you simplify the science in your videos. Keep doing this !
I have seen only two videos of this man and i am now found of him because of his creativity and of showing the relevant things that are diversified in the nature like this man woyld touch every aspect of logy in his video in terms of recreation, info, scientific concepts. love you man. Love from kashmir (India)
I studied fluid dynamics, oscillations and waves and this is by far the coolest and most practical application of the theory. MinutePhysics made a video a while back about the pattern of wake trails ships and boats leave behind and the physics behind it. I loved wathcing how the theory I did on paper checks out the real world phenomenon. I believe that if more schools and universities taught this way, the world will have better and more able people in science.
@User-jr7vf
Жыл бұрын
That's why the US probably remains on top when it comes to military dominance in the world. Your country has a lot of money to invest in many things, like this Indoor Ocean, not to mention the expensive war simulations/games that the army carries out every year. I think that no other country can afford to do the same.
@melissa-wilson
Жыл бұрын
Super cool! What an interesting degree 👏.
@Konarcoffee
Жыл бұрын
@@User-jr7vf And don't forget they can shovel piles of money into youtubers with no morals so they can do military propaganda videos like this one
@pyropulseIXXI
Жыл бұрын
But they do teach like this, if you go to a research university. My school had nuclear reactors, simulations on computers, various real world models, etc
@GriffinZambia
Жыл бұрын
*Dont_Read_My_Names* .😑 ..
I have the pleasure of visiting this facility while working for NOAA. We were testing new current meters there. That was many years ago. The capacity for test and research was and continues to impress.
@tomc8157
Жыл бұрын
As did I with yet another prodigious 4 letter acronym. Quite the small wonder of technology.
@nice.diverjeff5883
Жыл бұрын
Is this in oregon??
@CineSoar
Жыл бұрын
One question this video didn't answer, and maybe someone who has been there can... How is the water sealed, on the two motion 'coasts' of the pool? I was surprised to see the backs of the wave paddles, and the faces seemed independent (not visibly connected by a membrane). What keeps the water from getting past them?
@Charles-Darwin
Жыл бұрын
@@CineSoar From what I could tell, they have a continuous membrane that is connected between them. It looks like that membrane also has folds between the actuator 'faces' -to allow flexing.
@jesipohl6717
Жыл бұрын
Research implies a free-flow of ideas for most scientists, militaries do not do research, they strategically release information and lock away information. They look for legit partners like NOAA who are underfunded to scrub their image.
Nice to finally see where my tax dollars are going
@moogle68
8 күн бұрын
You must be blind if you've never seen anything at all in your life until now that was funded with tax dollars. What'd you get, an eye transplant? Ever seen a "road" before?
@must205
4 күн бұрын
Well spent
don't let that indoor pool scare you, there's only a single great white shark swimming in it
@PersonausdemAll
Ай бұрын
I tought about sharks too 😂
@Boomkinguyman
13 күн бұрын
And they made the right decision not to allow waves with humans in it. There is NO NEED to risk it. And probably has many other reasons.
As a long time professional in this field, this is without question one of the best if not the best videos I have ever seen. I know many others in our company are geeking on this right now. Great work!
@duongchuc1834
Жыл бұрын
ok
@bichnguyen-uc4ys
Жыл бұрын
ok
@Yaisam
Жыл бұрын
Best way to show how cool your work is hahah
@dylanelliott866
Жыл бұрын
Surfline?
@mikewatson5662
Жыл бұрын
@@dylanelliott866 Yessir
This is so rad!!! I'm a music producer and all these same principles apply to sound waves except sound waves are invisible to the eye. It's easy to hear standing waves in a room. If you play a constant low bass frequency and move around the room you can hear how certain parts of the room have boosted bass while others have nulls. So cool to actually see these principles visually!
@ellenburns3025
Жыл бұрын
never thought about this how cool
@Lolwutdesu9000
Жыл бұрын
Need some bass traps bro :P
@daelaenor
Жыл бұрын
Every kind of wave behaves that way. That's why it's a wave.
@allenstorm3771
Жыл бұрын
mushrooms help u see sound
@billyblanton
Жыл бұрын
I always heard my friend who produces say the same thing that they are almost identical with a few exceptions. That’s so cool that sound waves and water waves are basically the same thing in different forms
One of the best videos I have ever watched! Thank you for making it, learned so much.
When Derek was talking about different oceans having different spectral content I was hoping that someone had created a 'color map' showing this detail. I think that it would be interesting to see.
@ValReif
Жыл бұрын
NOAA kind of has, but I don’t believe anyone has farmed it for visualization yet. You can go look up the NOAA bout system and see real time wave data and historical spectral data.
@TheKroesar
Жыл бұрын
There are a few approximations out there. However, developing a spectrum accurately representing a certain region is a lot of effort and very expensive. The JONSWAP spectrum, for example, was a joint industry project, funded by multiple organisations. Hence the name: JOint North Sea WAve Project.
@ANunes06
Жыл бұрын
And I hear "spectra" with regards to mechanical phenomena and immediately think "What is the Power Spectral Density of these seas?"
@ValReif
Жыл бұрын
@@ANunes06 that’s a great question! That’s how the offshore industry looks at it because you can determine a transfer function between power spectral density and floating body response!
@DrDeuteron
Жыл бұрын
Nice idea. But too many frequcies. You could multiply it by a human eye response and get a neat result. With some loss of information.
Whatever floats your boat
@leflyathon
11 ай бұрын
first
@HayItsRhy
3 ай бұрын
second
@grace-om3cd
3 ай бұрын
third
@bderrick4944
3 ай бұрын
@@grace-om3cdGrace is that you???
@boredyoutubeuser
3 ай бұрын
Roblox reference??? 🤨
I live right near this place and have always known a little bit of what was done there (rumors and generic descriptions), this is so cool to actually see inside!
This is a very interesting video! I’m obsessed with anything Ocean related , the break down of the waves was quite fascinating, everything else was cool too
I remember visiting here when I was in high school engineering class. We were testing some mini underwater devices with servos for an assignment. I was blown away by how large the pool was. Very cool to see this place featured in your video!
@tanvirbinlokman8576
Жыл бұрын
It must have been cool right?
@mr_tom_1_0
Жыл бұрын
Ah, how High School has changed…
@slimshady6597
Жыл бұрын
@@MrEpicAndroid take your meds, please
@muhammadjalal2335
Жыл бұрын
Yo
@truthdoesnotexist
Жыл бұрын
lucky
I co-op'd there during college and then continued there for anther 25 years. I can tell any young engineers that the DOD research facilities are great places to apply your skills to broad and fascinating issues. As an electrical engineer I worked on underwater acoustics for submarines, structural issues on F14 jets, using radars to understand hydrodynamics, underwater explosives to study structural strength of ship hulls. (yes, they have a blast pond). As someone else pointed out, they sponsor (and host) the human powered submarine competition in their long tow basins (actually curved to follow the curvature of the Earth). This video is a fantastic description of wave physics... really well done (as usual).
@killahbee
Жыл бұрын
Do you know if MASk is filled with saltwater or a controlled variant of, or is it unaltered tap water?
@EngRMP
Жыл бұрын
@@killahbee It's fresh water. I seem to remember that they had a special pipe from the water company since they needed such a large volume if they drained it. There is a rotating arm facility next door and of course the long tow basins that also hold a lot of water. So, there is a holding tank outdoors that can be used to help move water around. But, I wasn't in the Hydro group so I'm not positive of the workings.
@zeloganbrothers
Жыл бұрын
@EngRMP I'm currently studying Electrical Engineering. It's a hard major but I've learned and have really begun to appreciate everyday things we take for granted, like computers and the power grid.
@muhammadjalal2335
Жыл бұрын
Cool
@EngRMP
Жыл бұрын
@@zeloganbrothers I would encourage you to look into coop (maybe it's called work/study these days). You alternate semesters between work and school. It adds to your total time at school but you get tremendous engineering experience which really adds to the engineering study. And, typically the host not only pays you a salary but also pays for education and books (not living expenses). My dad paid my freshman year and then I was able to cover the next four years with the co-op income.And, finally, the work experience helped me decide what I wanted to do after school. Good luck Ryan.
You regularly blow my mind. Thank you & all of the other intelligent creatives that post videos here. Cheers…big time.
I literally live across the street from this place and got a tour in elementary school!! It’s terrifying walking along side it just knowing how deep and how much water there truly is
My dad took me to the David Taylor Model Basin when they had an open house. I was about 10 years old and still remember it. Now, as an engineer approaching 70, I think that I would appreciate it a lot more. Thanks for posting this video!
@GriffinZambia
Жыл бұрын
*Dont_Read_My_Names* .😑 ..
@OhNoNotAgain42
Жыл бұрын
My dad thought it was so cool, that when I was born….
@scottpercival172
Жыл бұрын
The linear tanks at this facility were built during WW2, but this wavemaking basin was built in the early 1960's. It would have been brand new when you visited.
@OhNoNotAgain42
Жыл бұрын
@Karl with a K Absolutely not. There is no software that can adequately model turbulence. Scale models are still the only way to test complex systems. Aerodynamics, earthquake motion, wave action, etc. I’ve been an engineer in these fields for more than 30 years. Software has been developed for all sorts of common needs, but it’s always limited. Also, the only way to develop and tune computer models is with controlled facilities like this.
@KingNoTail
Жыл бұрын
@Karl with a K False
Your videos never feel like they’re 20 minutes long! There’s always so much research into topics that we would’ve never known if not for your videos. Love the content.
@scanskynero3083
Жыл бұрын
This is the 20th time I've seen this copypasta on an infotainment channel.
@shellderp
Жыл бұрын
Makes you realize most youtubers stretch their videos with fluff for more money
@GriffinZambia
Жыл бұрын
*Dont_Read_My_Names* .😑 ..
@in5aneguy597
Жыл бұрын
my wife says similar things about our sex life, unfortunately it's because it isn't
@deepkar7885
Жыл бұрын
Coz this video is 20 minutes long
Man these guys are so knowledgeable, this is great. Truly the worlds best.
its actually pretty funny how accurate the small ship is to the big ship when you slow it down. btw good content i love how you make things most people would ignore into a pretty fun video
Thanks for including the math of how to relate models to full size behavior. At first I was thinking “sure but physics doesn’t necessarily scale like that” but of course it’s been figured out. The model footage slowed down by the correct ratio looks amazingly like the real deal. So cool!
@vibratingstring
Жыл бұрын
Yes. What doesn't scale is the turbulence so the froth is missing in model. That's due to Reynolds number being ridiculously low. Cannot scale both. For drag tests, the solution is literally gluing rocks to the model to induce turbulence. Btw as a kid I watched Ultraman and I thought the flames and smoke looked weird. That's the same Reynolds problem
@vibratingstring
Жыл бұрын
@@ridwanfaysal7935 da fuq?
@brianmiller1077
Жыл бұрын
I judged a middle school science fair and a kid was testing windmill blade designs. He used a fan as a wind source and there was basically zero difference between the designs. He admitted he knew this did not make sense in real life (a courageous thing) but he wasn't sure why. I asked him what his wind speed was and he didn't have a device to measure it. Fair enough I told him that in modeling there's a scale factor has to be factored in (like what Derek mentions for waves) but what it was I wasn't sure because I learned about 30 years ago In fluids class. "So I could be throwing a hurricane at these blades?" he asked "Precisely, and that would give you the results you're seeing" I replied.
@MrJdsenior
Жыл бұрын
@@vibratingstring Stupidity meets science, that is WTF. It seems like you can't find a video with a reasonably large comment section that doesn't get infiltrated by one of these, frankly, morons.
As a college student studying naval architecture I want to thank you for shining some light on how cool our field is.
@abraxas365
Жыл бұрын
What school? I got the degree, but didn't end up designing ships after I graduated, but I do alright. You're gonna get a broad education about a lot of things, and learn the valuable lessons presented by designing a system of systems. Never feel like you're getting a narrow education or have narrow prospects after you graduate. Good luck.
@HumanFellaPerson
Жыл бұрын
Don't support imperialism!
@TerryTerius
Жыл бұрын
@@HumanFellaPerson We shouldn't support imperialism, but just being in possession of a military/navy and investing in technology is not in and of itself imperialism. That's a matter of how you actually use your military.
@DrDeuteron
Жыл бұрын
Naval engineering was the rocket science of yore. Many famous ppl worked on. Many nonlinear differential equations were discovered
@joegibes
Жыл бұрын
For those interested, Neil Degrasse Tyson's book "Accessory to War" is a must-read about the pervasive connection between military and scientific research. His focus is astrophysics, and his point is that military and science have ALWAYS been interconnected... The nations want more power and intel, so they fund the science. The connection is deeper than you think.
Miguel just strikes me as that dude who could be both the chill best friend and the total brains of the bunch. He could totally be that laid back college professor who you learn the most from and consistently gets top ranks from the students.
Freaking epic video packed full of information! Side note: I appreciate the engineer's choice of shirt for the interview. He wore a wave shirt!
I’ve seen computer simulations of waves and how they interact, but it’s SO awesome and WAY more impressive and intriguing to see it in the real physical world.
Lovely program. Stirred up some great memories. When I was in the 8th grade (1960) my science project was a wave making machine. It was a tad smaller than the pool you visited, just 30” x 60” or so. (Some memories just don’t keep all the details). But it did make real waves and their interaction with the sand beach at one end was clearly visible. It was a fun project and even earned an honorable mention in the school science fair that year. Keep the aspidistra flying!
@maneater901
Жыл бұрын
that is so cool
@longnamedude3947
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear your story, I hope you have built other things since then in your adult life, if not, theirs no day like the present, get building!
@icytiger34
Жыл бұрын
nice
@muhammadjalal2335
Жыл бұрын
Nice
@murph_mustela
Жыл бұрын
People keep writing numbers with those apostrophes next to them to describe waves. What does it mean? What unit is it?
Wow... What an amazing facility and explanation of the physics in operation. Thank you!
I used to handle transportation operations for areas around Carderock (well in a sense I still kinda do) and they offered me a tour many years ago. Loved absolutely every minute of it. Of all things it's the smell of that room that's always stuck with me.
@illumabody
Ай бұрын
Transportation operations eh ❤
A lot of this knowledge surrounding wave propagation we were taught to understand as AGs (Aerographer’s Mate - basically meteorologists for the aircraft and shipboard operations) in the Navy. What I found fascinating is that while the ocean is often depicted as a turbulent environment (and it is), there are areas of it that have zero turbulence. Working on an aircraft carrier, we would sometimes come across an area with calm winds. When that happens, the surface of the water becomes glasslike. Couple that with a marine layer of a fog bank, and you’re in for a surreal time!
@Wormwoodification
Жыл бұрын
Never been on an ocean but you see that all the time in the movies. That glass surface. Like "at the edge of the world".
@jackhand4073
Жыл бұрын
My dad taught me some of this in relation to surfing and reading a wave/break/line up. Great video.
@EvaOwnsAll
Жыл бұрын
That glasslike phenomenon is actually quite deceptive to aviators as well. I work in flight test and when there are no waves, common pratice is to raise the "floor" of our test envelope. We've many a system to warn about one's altitude but that glass like feature has gotten many experienced aviators, it lures one right in.
@hovikmkrtchyan4598
Жыл бұрын
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@charleediaven6278
Жыл бұрын
0 seconds ago I was in those bad seas off of Hainan Island in a Liberty ship. 324 feet and we watched in awe these waves cresting over the bow. The freeboard on that tub was about 30'. We were battened down, I stood watch on the port side. 1967.
Anyone who has surfed for any significant time probably has an understanding of this without, perhaps, realizing the science behind it. Thanks Derek!
@DrDeuteron
Жыл бұрын
Surfers have binary classification. Inside or outside. Too big. Too small. Mine. Yours.
@Skibbidyboobop
Жыл бұрын
@@DrDeuteron Eh, many of them have a deeper understanding of wave propagation than you may think...
@iabervon
Жыл бұрын
I would guess that surfers have a better understanding of when the wave base interacts with the bottom, and less understanding of the dynamics where this isn't going on. I was wondering at the beginning if they'd be able to control the depth, but they probably just plan to avoid areas where it matters when the weather is bad.
@d-entrecasteaux
Жыл бұрын
@@DrDeuteron this would make an awesome wave pool for surfing😊
@surfingbilly9654
Жыл бұрын
I know i definitely have a very detailed understanding of waves when they start hitting the bottom, lots of very specific knowledge that is not usually covered in science classes. Especially with how small environmental changes can drastically change the final outcome of the wave.
Thank you for teaching us about Waves & Wave length, it's about PHYSICS! yeah✨
I am mainly impressed that all of the wave makers are so snug together that there is zero leaking behind them, despite all that water pressure, and yet they can still move.
@sechura3698
Жыл бұрын
I think they hook over the walls of the pool so that the mount and actuator are outside of the pool walls while the paddle is the only portion submerged.
@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju
Жыл бұрын
actually that's not how they work. yes they are fitted tightly however even between the tiny gaps there is a sheet that contains the water, you can see that at 1:39 they aren't fitted together so tightly that no water can escape, making the paddles fit together so snugly that without anything in between is impossible
@ahriman935
Жыл бұрын
@@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju It's probably possible, but the wear would be insane and would quickly make the fit not-so-snug-anymore.
@blatherskitenoir
Жыл бұрын
@@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju as super cool as they are, I still think walking in that corridor behind them would be as stressful as a horror film scene, as you wait for the water to burst through and drown you before you could get out.
@mattpassos5689
Жыл бұрын
@@blatherskitenoirdon’t fly in planes then, gravity is just waiting for you to slip up there
i have never seen such well choreographed and perfect waves 🌊
@patrickshell2813
Жыл бұрын
🤨
@coda56
Жыл бұрын
whad tf
@iscoute8353
Жыл бұрын
Only 3 comments? I'll fix that
@taz7914
Жыл бұрын
Hi
@realdeal2454
Жыл бұрын
Fuk you KZread
I like how you put the ad at the end of the video, because it makes you appreciate watching the ad after such a great video. This channel is perhaps the single best channel on KZread.
Came across this channel unexpectedly. I'm gonna have to re watch this. I am a Sound Engineering student and we use Wave as the formulation of Sound. This was very interesting to watch. But, Imma have to come back to this cause I suck at math,🥴😂😂 and I need a note book to observe all these information in cause this was very informative and very educational. Super helpful for me. Thank you for this❤
This is such a fascinating video. I am a mariner in the Gulf of Mexico and it's true; you can really feel the difference in the waves between a smaller area like the gulf and the wide open Atlantic Ocean.
@vincentmisan
Жыл бұрын
Great
@circleinforthecube5170
3 ай бұрын
similar to the great lakes, the small ones feel small but superior feels like a sea
I retired from Carderock in 2020, after a 3+ decade career. If you are a naval architect, this is the place to be. I got to work on some cool stuff.
@david84ss
Жыл бұрын
What code were you in?
@rm-61366
Жыл бұрын
@@david84ss structures
@jesipohl6717
Жыл бұрын
what was it like working in a segment where scientific results are held back from the public to benefit making murder machines more effective against enemies?
@rm-61366
Жыл бұрын
@@jesipohl6717 it was great!
@vibratingstring
Жыл бұрын
Did you know John Hoyt at Carderock? He designed the fabulous miniature towing tank at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia. It even had a wave maker, wave eater, and both powered and instrumented gravity powered carriage. Sadly, no matter how I tried to convince them, the management there tore it out about 25 years ago. Very very sad.
Veritasium is the best science based videos out there..I really enjoyed this video and the one about the balls on the reservoir
seeing this 16:25 really makes me want to work here. This looks like a really fun environment
When I was a Cub Scout over 50 years ago, we took a field trip to that facility. It was quite impressive. I drove by there recently and notice a missile battery next to the building. I think it’s the longest building in the world.
@bertrandmalas6389
Жыл бұрын
The russian tank is even longer
@Autumn_Leaves_Falling
Жыл бұрын
@@bertrandmalas6389 cool.
@sebastianpeheim8851
Жыл бұрын
how long is it?
@scewston420
Жыл бұрын
half mile
@bertrandmalas6389
Жыл бұрын
@@sebastianpeheim8851 russian towing tank is 1300 m
As someone who's interested in music and sound design, it's just fascinating to see how the same math and physics principles can apply across all kinds of different fields. This universe is beautifully designed
@aaqilian5.085
Жыл бұрын
Nobody cares. Beat off
@KougaJ7
Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@krasus7858
Жыл бұрын
Designed? Don't think so. It is all coincidience.
@raxxtv1998
Жыл бұрын
@@krasus7858Lol what does that make you feel better, or something? Smarter, maybe? The truth is that nobody actually knows either way. However, the universe is beautifully structured, and it is absolutely not a coincidence. It functions according to natural laws built into existence. It’s not a coincidence that everything appears the way it does, no matter how you slice it. Fun fact, science has nothing to say about the deep philosophical questions that we as humans are burdened with. Using science to dismiss these questions is simply an abuse of science, and is actually anti-scientific.
@sheevdesai9490
Жыл бұрын
like your geogebra profile pic
Super friendly place to work, something is always waving at you in the morning.
This is one of the most fascinating videos Ive seen in a long time.
Back in the 1990's I actually did go swimming in the longer towing tank there at the David Taylor Model Basin. In college I took part in the human powered submarine races held there, and we broke a World Record for the fastest human powered submarine in Tennessee Tech's "Torpedo III". We went there several times and ran the timed races in the large tow tank. Lot's of us in the subs and lots of safety divers. It is a pretty amazing place.
@vibratingstring
Жыл бұрын
It is long enough that you can see the arc due to the earth's curvature.
@_Coffee4Closers
Жыл бұрын
@@vibratingstring Yes, the side rails for the overhead instrument carriage are shaped to perfectly follow the Earth's curvature along the towing tank. We were allowed to go down and visit the scale model building shop, where the master model makers make the towed hulls. They had a very detailed model for almost every ship, sub, and torpedo in US inventory down there.
@vibratingstring
Жыл бұрын
@@_Coffee4Closers That's a great experience. I used to run a small (tiny) tow tank in Philadelphia. I made some models less than 30" long for it, using mahogany lifts that I cut to match the waterlines and then planed--the time honored method.
@_Coffee4Closers
Жыл бұрын
@@vibratingstring wow, cool stuff. I was in Engineering school at the time. and fluid dynamics was my specialty. Spent my later career in Aerodynamics for 2 major jet engine makers.
@vibratingstring
Жыл бұрын
@@_Coffee4Closers Cool! I live not far from one of them (engine manufact).
Very educational and informative! Also the calculations that they have to perform is amazing. I could imagine it has to be accurate in order to determine the waves. Engineers are geniuses.
This is amazing. Never would have thought of something like this.
Good stuff. Scale model testing takes a lot of special adjustments because you can’t scale things like the water characteristics to make it more realistic. While working at a large mfg of over the road transportation vehicles, using scale model testing was used in research. The engineers putting metal on the road were not an easy sell vs full size testing of experimental (prototype) vehicles, which cost lots of money.
As a surfer, I’m semi-obsessed with learning about waves. This may be the best video I’ve ever seen. Well done!
wow. i used to live right across the street from the whole area growing up. now i know what makes all of that noise 😭. i never needed to set an alarm clock over the weekend, the national anthem woke me up in the morning.
Did you see the waves in California last week? They've never been that high and that constant to where it flooded parts of the inner city . They were insanely high. Some up to 40 feet high. I'm happy to say my son just enlisted in the Navy ❤❤❤
Just finished my Msc in Mec. Engineering with a wave energy converter model. Interesting to see a full scale wave flume in action. The basic wave theory was very well explained. Great video.
We had a very big wave pool at SERE but it was not quite this big. It was just really interesting how rough they could make the water in such a small space without it feeling cramped in any way. We had to get dumped in with our gear and be able to get up and onto a life raft, and then be able to call over radios. Needless to say trying to sit under a tarp on rough waters in a fake storm and also hear anything is difficult
@jacobr8790
Жыл бұрын
SERE? Are you allowed to all about that lol isn’t there a nondisclosure agreement
@bthsr7113
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobr8790 I would have assumed so.
@Sn0w_Official
Жыл бұрын
You can get into the general details about SERE without giving too many actual details of specifics. Like I can tell you about some stuff about the M1 Abrams tank but I can't give you the exact schematics and the nuances to it that isn't public knowledge
I'm kinda depressed and stressed out, but seeing this makes me better, i have better feeling ❤
I pass by this facility everyday when I go to swim practice. Never knew it was this complex.
as a child i always loved playing in the sea with the waves and i did it so much i learnt how waves work in the practical way (i had even given names to some type of waves). watching this video helped understand the theory behind them as well and thats just trully amazing. what a great video.
I was there, to do testing, many years ago. (c.1978) As impressive as the wave makers, there are also the 'beaches', and then that 'bridge' over the ocean. It's as long as a football field, and each end is on a rail car. And it can pivot 45 degrees to the tank. We were using that to tow underwater equipment. Definitely a neat place. Great to see it again!
This is actually really cool, like I had no idea wave physics functioned in such a uniform fashion.
Wow, I never thought an indoor ocean would be that interesting and complex like that.
Brings back memories, used to work offshore in the North Sea and had to do the survival refresher course every 4 years, used to dread it when I had to do the course in Aberdeen, wave machines, darkness with explosive technics and flashing lights and even staff using a fire hose on you whilst trying to get on top of the liferaft to turn it over this was then followed by the helicopter ditching and the fire fighting, luckily they toned the firefighting down a bit because of injuries etc.
I always love hearing science stuff from Jason Chaffetz
the wave formation from the wind animation was trippy af, felt like a fractal zoom.
Story time! I joined the US Navy in 1975, recruited into the nuclear power program. My education was intense, something at which I did well, but when I got to the hands-on operation of a nuclear reactor (a safely land-locked fully-functional reactor prototype) the increased stress caused me to burn out, and I went to the fleet as a "regular" sailor. My first ship sent me to gyrocompass school, where the primary goal of the gyrocompass was always to point to True North. But to do that, the system had to account for many other effects, some of which were measured and provided as outputs to other systems, including not just navigation and ship stability systems, but also missile and gunfire control systems. The Navy had loaded me up with a ton of education, then assigned me to a completely new field for the controls for the shipboard gas turbine propulsions systems used on destroyers and cruisers. I did well in those schools (the Navy had made me VERY good at being a student), and was assigned to the awesome job of being part of the "nucleus crew" responsible for "buying" a newly-built destroyer for the Navy, taking it from the shipbuilder to active commissioned duty. My ship was the USS Harry W. Hill, DD-986, a Spruance-class destroyer. As we were nearing the end of our pre-commissioning inspections, Hurricane Frederick approached the shipyard at Pascagoula, Mississippi. All ships present and under construction were lashed to their pier moorings with triple line sets. Then it became clear that the storm would strike us especially hard, so at the last moment the decision was made to send all ships to sea that were capable of it. Which included our ship, which was still owned by the shipyard, and was operated by a civilian captain and crew, with us sailors helping out in every way possible. It was one hell of a ride. The waves were breaking OVER THE TOP OF THE SHIP, and our captain was concerned that any wave could cause us to drive ourselves into the water and to the bottom. We survived (obviously), but when we returned to port, the front of the superstructure had been "waffled", something the USS Hill proudly displayed for her entire 20-year career. Another thing also happened: All the ships sensors, many of which I knew "personally", had recorded troves of data during the storm. The data was copied and whisked away by NAVSEA (the folks responsible for ship designs) for analysis. But I got to take a look at it as well. Using a very simple model of the ship, and the recordings of its motions in all directions, I was able to reconstruct a very simple analysis of the sea state (simple, in that I hadn't yet learned differential equations, and so had to use approximations). Frederick wasn't huge as hurricanes go, but it approached and struck in a way that the shallow Gulf coast served to amplify its waves. Despite my being ON THE SHIP through the storm, looking at that data made me realize just how fortunate we had been to suffer only trivial damage. It's a testament to the extreme talent and skill of our civilian captain, "Captain Pat", to know where to point the bow and how hard to drive the engines. That's the point I want to make. Yes, models and tanks can help evolve ship designs. But it takes talented leadership and crew to make such ships do amazing things under the worst conditions, and do so without losing or damaging the ship. How does the Navy train "ship drivers" to take a vessel beyond its "book" limits? I don't know the answer, but I'm glad they've figured out how to get it done! The data indicated a high risk of destruction. Yet we "managed just fine". Go figure.
@coooclmmaann12
Жыл бұрын
Awesome story, loved reading it
@teachmehowtostewie
Жыл бұрын
This is the only comment I actually believe happened.
@averageamericangirl6819
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow. Thanks for sharing.
@jakobion9216
Жыл бұрын
Could you explain what you mean by the superstructure was "waffled"?
@Danvenrit
Жыл бұрын
very cool story
This takes me back to fluid mechanics class, especially when you talked about the unintuitive scaling of experiments. One of the hardest classes I've taken that's for sure!
I would NEVER get in there but I can't deny that it's awesome! Imagine having mock ship battles in there (I wouldn't do that either but it's fun to imagine)
I love this guy's content, it's just so interesting!
I really loved this video! I'm an oceanography graduate, and watching this excited me at another level. Thanks for all this wonderful content, Derek 🙌🤝💙
As an Amature Radio Operator this really help me visualize different radio frequencies.. I really liked the part from 5:10 to 6:15 as it really helped me visualize the importance of SWR calibration an how it can affect radio equipment and amplitude across frequencies. Maybe I had to much to drink but I'm sure other operators would understand what I'm saying. Thought this was awesome because on paper you can understand the principle but in water you can see the "Magic".
It was today i saw visual representation of standing waves. Thanks veritasium
This was absolutely fascinating. I know he said nobody is allowed to swing in that pool but how many have swam in that pool and how much fun was it?
@guitarplayer1495
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what it tastes like
@kinggooktheautistickingewg788
Жыл бұрын
Money can buy anything. I'm sure if someone rolled up with a 5 million dollar payment, the government would just say "sup thanks welcome", get some basic safety lines in place so people can always pull themselves up, and get the party started,
@Douglas.kong33
Жыл бұрын
Bro that pool looks like a nightmare
@crazycat7678
Жыл бұрын
@@Douglas.kong33 fr you can't pay me 1m to swim there what if someone didn't know you were there
@RickC_
Жыл бұрын
I have scuba dived in that "pool" when working on a Titanic project for the Discovery Channel back in the 90s (Titanic: Answers From The Abyss)
Thank you for this one! It's a fascinating facility to be sure. But you've broken down the mechanics so well its simple to understand, yet not so full of technical jargon to make it boring. Very well done!
I actually respect so much how he saved the sponsor for the end. Why don’t everyone do that. Mfs add they sponsors in the middle of videos like 7 minutes into the vid. Save it for the end. They’re still you’re sponsor doing it at the end of vids isn’t gonna make them not sponsor that video anymore. Respect to this guy
Long ago I had the pleasure of working in Ann around the Davidson laboratory at Stevens Institute of technology in Hoboken. Pretty much it was the same thing you are seeing here very interesting tanks and wave interactions. Underwater jets slow motion, photography. Before cloud computing, these kind of physical analogues were the best Toole possible for ship, design, and wave structure interactions. Sadly, most of this is now done in simulation but it’s cool to see they still have a place for scale model testing.!
We had a very big wave pool at SERE but it was not quite this big. It was just really interesting how rough they could make the water in such a small space without it feeling cramped in any way. We had to get dumped in with our gear and be able to get up and onto a life raft, and then be able to call over radios.
I dreaded my time studying Fluid Mechanics back then but these are the kinds of videos that show their actual application reinvigorated my interest in the subject Excellent video overall
Nice to finally see what’s inside as I grew up near this facility in Maryland and it was always a mystery what was going on in there - from road can just see several large hangar structures
@jonathanshapiro6593
2 ай бұрын
This the one off MacArthur and along Clara Barton?
@StreetComp
2 ай бұрын
@@jonathanshapiro6593 exactly. Seems like an odd place for this sort of thing, the area is quiet wealthy residential
Currently studying Fluid Mechanics in my Mechanical Engineering undergrad program-- absolutely loving this video!
I'm an engineering student at Centrale Nantes (France) and we have a huge wave generating pool like this one in the school (although it is small compared to this one) and learning fluid dynamics with the researchers who work on these facilities is great.
Great video on similitude! I never thought I'd see a video on a topic I learned in fluid dynamics before. I learned similitude for different reasons (designing dams, spillways, etc.), but this was a very cool application of it. And I love ships :D
This was FASCINATING 👏
This is so GENIUS
Fascinating video. Thank You for working with Miguel to explain 'rogue waves' so clearly. Others could learn from that. The sound analogy is also very interesting. Great work and beautifully presented.👍
I swam in the ocean a lot as a kid and seeing this just makes me wanna jump in and get hit by waves over and over again just like when i was a kid. Damn i love this
Satisfaction at its finest 1:24
This is fascinating stuff to a guy who spent 20 years sailing in the Navy from the North Atlantic to the Arabian Gulf. I actually had a shore tour with the David Taylor Research Center working with surface effect ships at their Patuxent River facility. Amongst the cool stuff we did there we did get to tour the Carderock facility and see the tow basin where they can pull model hulls over a one mile long pool that, IIRC, follows the curvature of the earth. Neat place doing useful research for us squids. Thanks for that.
@Vivianislistening
Жыл бұрын
Persian Gulf
@Schervin
Жыл бұрын
Where is the Arabian gulf? I can't find it on the map
@mychaelleesly
Жыл бұрын
@@Schervin The Persian Gulf, sometimes called the Arabian Gulf, is a mediterranean sea in Western Asia. The body of water is an extension of the Indian Ocean located between Iran and the Arabian Peninsula. It is connected to the Gulf of Oman in the east by the Strait of Hormuz. Wikipedia
@Ranter06
Жыл бұрын
@@Vivianislistening Spent 3 years running minesweepers out of Bahrain. Locals called it the Arabian Gulf. So did the folks in Qatar.
@Vivianislistening
Жыл бұрын
@@Ranter06 Just because some use the name doesn't make it right. Any ancient map will tell you what's right