Brits: we need to put the 17 pounder in a tank *Sees Sherman* Sherman: W-Wait!! That doesn't go there!?!

@m4albino201

4 жыл бұрын

Churchill: (┛`д´)┛it will fit

@minecraftantian6633

4 жыл бұрын

@@m4albino201 *hentai sounds*

@mitskoala0380

4 жыл бұрын

@@minecraftantian6633 kyaaa.....

@carlosrex9097

3 жыл бұрын

Oh Sheibe

@k-874

3 жыл бұрын

@@m4albino201 Sherman: *starts "leaking" oil everywhere*

FWIW, my Dad's older brother Uncle Cliff[ord] was a commander in one of these, he survived the war, and lived to be 99, and a few weeks short of his 100th - Dad also survived the war [Royal Army Medical Corps] and lived to be 97.

“Being good officers, they did indeed stop working on it. And then they immediately started to work on getting that order changed.” *Bruh 😂*

*British Production Office 1943* Engineer: Sir the 17 pounder won't fit! Winston Churchill: Put it in sideways! Engineer: The radio won't fit! Winston Churchill: Cut a hole in the back of the turret and let it stick out the back! Engineer: The engine's no good! Winston Churchill: Get 5 car engines and put 'em together!

@justinm1319

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Yoyle-jq9ul

5 жыл бұрын

Lol potential history

@PNolandS

5 жыл бұрын

*Get 5 car engines and put ‘em together!*

@flare9757

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right for British Tank design...

@MostlyPennyCat

4 жыл бұрын

I know this isn't the greatest tank in the world and that the 76mm armed Sherman supercedes it. But I don't love weapons because they're the best weapons. I love weapons when they come out with barking shit like this. 5 engines and a turret bodged with gaffer tape. _salutes_ Here's to you, you absolute mad lads.

Ironically, horsepower is essentially a useless measurement for tanks... what really matters, is torque. You need a lot of torque to move a lot of weight, which is what made the Chrysler engine in this tank beneficial. It was a lot heavier, and even had less horsepower than the Ford, but it had far more torque, and because of that, got to speed faster, could move up inclines faster, etc.

@leeham6230

3 жыл бұрын

I always wondered why they didn't put diesel engines in WW2 tanks. One would think that since diesels are torque monsters, they would be the optimal choice for moving a heavy vehicle. Nope! Petrol. There must be a reason.

@norfangl3480

3 жыл бұрын

Diesel also isn't as flammable as petrol

@monobryn64

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeham6230 Basically inertia. If all your machines run on petrol, you only have to supply one type of fuel to all of your divisions. If some of your vehicles run on diesel and some on petrol, you'll have to send different proportions of diesel and petrol to your different units based on what exact combination of vehicles that specific unit is currently using. A supply nightmare. And you run the risk of some yahoo putting diesel in a petrol vehicle (or vice versa).

@khrhee5

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeham6230 1. diesel engines require more technology than petrol engines to make 2. they are usually heavier than petrol engine

@leeham6230

3 жыл бұрын

@@monobryn64 Make all vehicles diesel; problem solved.

The Sherman I really like was the one with the propellers sticking out the back.

German tactical doctrine was to target the Fireflies whenever they were spotted. That says it all.

@samuel10125

5 жыл бұрын

They may have had the 88 but they feared the Firefly so as you said fair to say the Firefly had quite the effect.

@fatmanbatman9374

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah it put a dent in German morale one of these killed wittman

@larshenrik8900

5 жыл бұрын

No source has been found stating that they specifically targeted fireflies first

@samuel10125

5 жыл бұрын

@@larshenrik8900 actually yes there is. the Sherman Firefly was perhaps the most valued tank by British and Commonwealth commanders, as it was the only tank in the British Army able to reliably penetrate the frontal armour of Panthers and Tigers at the standard combat ranges in Normandy. This fact did not go unnoticed by the Germans, who realised that these long-barrel Shermans posed a much greater threat to their heavy tanks than the normal Shermans, and German tank crews and anti-tank gun crews were instructed to eliminate Fireflies first. Similarly, the Firefly crews realised that the distinctive long barrel of their 17-pounder gun made the Firefly stand out from standard Shermans, so crews attempted to disguise their tanks to reduce the likelihood of being targeted. Some crews had the front half of the olive drab gun barrel painted white on the bottom, or white with dark green on top, to give the illusion of a shorter gun barrel. Another suggestion was for a shorter wooden dummy gun to be mounted on the rear of the turret and point forward; however, this tactic does not appear to have been used in combat.

@larshenrik8900

5 жыл бұрын

Samuel An actual document please. Provide that

Love these videos ... THANKFULLY they have decreased the volume of the music

Always good to listen to a bloke who knows what he's talking about rather than read from a sheet. Cheers Nick mate

France 1944: Shoemaker Gunner in Firefly with no combat experience vs 3 Tigers one of which is the Black Ace with 131 confirmed kills... GUESS WHO WINS😂

@guitarded55

4 жыл бұрын

The jew, of course

@JeanLucCaptain

4 жыл бұрын

@@guitarded55 um... no the SHOEMAKER. who mentioned jews??

@JeanLucCaptain

4 жыл бұрын

@John Cornell nope, he got him. Which is amazing because they were a greenhorn crew in a badly designed TD. The firefly had a lot of design problems.

@SvenTviking

4 жыл бұрын

Jean-Luc Martel Wittman was killed by a Sherman of the Canadian Sherbrooke Fusiliers. Recent analysis of the action, the position of Wittmann’s Tiger and damage to the tank from photographs of the wreck proves it was the Canadians that got him. Ekins did kill three Tigers in one action though.

@JeanLucCaptain

4 жыл бұрын

@@SvenTviking huh... CANADIAN GET THEIR CREDIT STOLEN AGAIN. I got my information from Mark Felton.

I do believe the Australians had completed a successful installation of a 17 pounder into a Sherman over a year before the British and their efforts were “reported” to the British, hence the “official” work for the Firefly.

Looking at the road wheels, they took testing very seriously

@Basih

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it faced off against a panther tank acquired from the french after WW2. There are videos on here on YT from those trials.

I have some kind of sickness. I watch these videos over and over again....

The Aussies also contributed to the design of the 17 pounder on the Firefly

i love my firefly and im so glad you did this video on it.

Nick either has a new girlfriend or he's dyed his hair to match the color of the tracks. :D

@TheChieftainsHatch

7 жыл бұрын

She dumped dye on me just before I flew to Sweden. I wasn't thrilled.

@thomasleonard2564

7 жыл бұрын

TheChieftainWoT y are the wheels so messed up and damaged on this Sherman Firefly

@m4_sherman

6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Leonard probably because it went through battle or just got battered over time

@justinm1319

6 жыл бұрын

The_Chieftain Swedish porn saved my life in 'Nam

@aceous99

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinm1319 ba ZING ah

Good presentation Mr Moran - nicely put, and informative.

A little bit of Monty Python always enters the scene when Mr Moran talks about WWII British tank design. Niiiice.

@larshenrik8900

5 жыл бұрын

puskascat where?

I love these vids, looking forward to the interior segment :)

17 pdr was 76mm, while the regular Sherman's gun was 75mm. I always wondered what made the 17pdr so special. The 75mm is about 2000 feet per second, and the 17pdr is a whopping 4000 fps. Its like 32 auto, and 30-06.

@HeirofGojira91

5 жыл бұрын

The gun cannons barrels; the Sherman 75mm wasn't obviously designed to be an AT gun cannon whereas the QF17 gun cannon was developed by the British after lessons learnt in the earlier stages of WWII BUT also when before the war too the British too realized that future tanks and AFV's would have new technology and armor and hence the 2 pdr or the 6 pdr even would not always fit the bill hence the QF 17 pdr gun cannon was developed - some of the QF 17 pdr were put on the 25 pdr carriages (due to production schedules and deadlines they didn't have time to properally install some of the earlier QF 17 pdr gun canons) hence the early QF 17 pdr gun cannons were called the QF 17 PHEASANTS .... and apparently there were used in North Africa .... But don't forget the QF 17 pdr is 76.2 mm x 55 Calibres = just under 4 meters if not 3.6 meters in length. The Sherman 75 was only 75mm x 40 Calibres = only about 3 meters ... so less velocity. ALTHOUGH the 75mm HE punch of the Sherman would have been SUPERIOR to the QF 17 pdr as the QF 17 pdr had a high velocity and needed BIG propellant charge and thick casing to enable the high performance of the gun AND the fact the QF 17 pdr did have a big recoil and night blindness flash from the powder and firing to the crews AND the fact the Sherman 75mm was 0.68 kg in HE filler - the QF 17 pdr gun cannon at best wasn't even 0.6 kg in HE punch - whilst both can get the job done - the fact the 75mm HE punch is obviously more useful and dangerous and does more splash in its damage for sure. Though no doubt the QF 17 pdr wins out in AP punch.

@SvenTviking

4 жыл бұрын

Foom-zilla ゴジラ They cured the smaller bursting charge problem by putting less propellant in the HE cases, lowering the velocity, which meant they could use thinner walled shells so the burst charge could be larger. The Yanks never thought of that with their 76mm.

@billytheshoebill5364

2 жыл бұрын

@@SvenTviking well putting fewer powder means different ballistic which means you have to get different "lines" on the sight that leads to slower aiming time due to time taken to adjust aiming which is why the US doesnt want to do it with the 76 atleast from my point of view

@filmandfirearms

2 жыл бұрын

@@HeirofGojira91 The 75mm was meant to engage tanks. It was just built as a multi purpose gun, not a dedicated AT gun or a dedicated anti infantry gun

@kenneth9874

11 ай бұрын

The 76mm was an American upgraded gun that fit properly

I really love these videos because I always wondered what it looks like in each tank. Make more plz

Nice Video, keep on the great work!

I don't care I don't _care_ I _don't_ care It's beautiful and insane and I love it. The fact that it was effective and successful is icing.

One of my favorite WoT tanks currently in the game

@rentakamiya5780

7 жыл бұрын

swaggynerd 21 my bro love firefly

@shieldde6209

4 жыл бұрын

Hold my Cromwell!

Pretty interesting seeing both sets of wheels on it seeing the lighting version buckled! Lol

Definitely an underrated tank

I don't play WOT anymore (not much time where life is going) but I sure do enjoy these videos. Very detailed, understandable with some humor thrown in to keep things interesting. Keep up the great work! :-)

@ColonizerChan

7 жыл бұрын

monkeydude3987 WG has honestly made some of the best and most informative documentaries on war vehicles of the 20th century

@monkeydude3987

7 жыл бұрын

I agree completely! No knock on the games, just no time unfortunately. But I do have time to occasionally check out these videos, which are top notch. :-)

Nice Het- JgdPz. 38 t. in the background

Omg iw been ther and seen that sherman with my own eyes in the Arsenal tank museum in sweden. Hade a great time going around and seing all the tanks manely the sherman and T34 if your ever thinking about going go. I know its not bowington but it defenetly wont dissapoint you many swedish tanks from the 30s-80s and many early tanks from WW1 and a bunsh of german WW2 tanks

Ayy that tank museum is like a 20 minute drive from me. I have seen that exact sherman with my own eyes

Dam captions keep turning back on after I turn them off. Anyone else getting this?

@brendanlang3596

5 жыл бұрын

Yes i do to😀

@Laotzu.Goldbug

5 жыл бұрын

Same. I think it's an option that the video uploader can do, to always have the video display subtitles until you turn it off.

@vicecapo8767

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

Read a book by David Render, who was a commander of Shermans in the war. He hated the multi-bank engine. iirc he thought they had a tendency to flood because not all the engines were the right way up. He had got used to the diesel engined variant, which pulled more strongly.

In WoTB, the 17-Pounder thats used on the Sherman Firefly is the same on the TOG II

Very nicely done!

Informative video, thanks!!!

Love these videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yessss..I love the Shermans!! (Including the Firefly)

I'm not very good at recognizing accents, but you sound a little Irish. Am I right?

@benhardsatrio8222

7 жыл бұрын

Sam Ten Thije Congrats. You nailed it.

@xmanhoe

6 жыл бұрын

Benhard Satrio he lives in US but his Irish accent gets stronger when he spends time in Ireland ,ps he is also an officer in national guard

@steveboy7302

5 жыл бұрын

@a what the heck is samoan never heard of that before

@vicecapo8767

4 жыл бұрын

Irish but tank commander for US I believe

@coaxill4059

4 жыл бұрын

@@steveboy7302 American Samoa is a territory of the United States. They are part of the US but are not allowed to vote.

The British got a tank destroyer out of an American medium tank to meet Tiger I and Panther tanks in equal firing conditions on the battlefield.

There’s a vid of a Dutch guy who owns and runs a firefly. He reckons the Multibank gives the best acceleration of all the Shermans.

I wish you posted more often

We just bought a 2018 RAM 2500 Cummins. The engine is 385 HP! Boy has technology come a long ways.

Why dident you make an episode on the museum's panzer 1? Or marder 2? They both have a good interior!!!!!

Swedes tested after the war Firefly comparing it to Panther and found Firefly poor in hilly, forest landscape, passing ditches/trenches etc.... and one of the reason was its extra weight compared to American Sherman mainstream versions.

I love the firefly for the fact it's the tank you command on call of Duty 3 when you kill the tiger, love the videos since I have always been a big tank enthusiasts even though I'm only 16 I love tanks and you have taught me so much about them and to that I say thank you, i have one request, can you please do the jagdtiger that big german tank destroyer, I love it cause it showed the true power of the German army even though it didn't change much the mechanically aspects of it and the sher size is awesome.

@kevin121649

7 жыл бұрын

that is one of favorite games. back when call of duty was great. Not like the trash they turn out now.

@usswestvirginia1

7 жыл бұрын

kevin121649 I know right I would love a call of Duty 3 remastered, I think the multiplayer and campaign was fun and entertain with cod haveing vehical and the story being one of the best it woukd probley make alot of people happy.

My favorite tank of WW2

Its so sad that in the game for some players its bad but in real life its a monster and truly feared too maybe thats why they painted the end of the gun

Some of the wheels on the tank's double bougies looks like my dog's chew toy.

this tank is where engine design was put to the test

OMG!! I have bin ther in arsenaden!!!!!

The Chrysler A57 multibank. Few engines have consumed so much to produce so little.

@Dalroi1

4 жыл бұрын

.. though as he pointed out in the video, it ended up being the most reliable of all the Sherman engine types after the Brits and Chrysler got together to iron out the problems. Losing some speed is tolerable if you gain a lot of reliability.

So what your saying it’s a basic Sherman but with a better gun? You know and easy eight turret with the easy eight hull might have been a better pick but that wasn’t ready yet

Any chance of a inside the hatch for the T29?

my grandads brother ,sgt Leslie Jackson was in the sherwood rangers yeomanry 5 troop sergent ,David Renders troop (david in his book referd to laslie jackson as arthur harris for whatever reasons) Leslies tank was a m4 sherman later a firefly called ARCHER , he joined in 1928 and was a profesional soldier , brish expeditionary force,palestine,north africa,el alemein ,d day dry landing day 1 , took leave as having spent only 6 months in england in 5 years abroad fighting , any info would be great , he was awarded a MM military medal in doulouns for nocking 5 at guns out

wheres the part 2? i cant seem to find it :S

What happened to the 2nd part of this reveiw - cannot find it anywhere

wonder how the multi bank compared to the twin 6-71 gm diesel power unit

I'm building a model of the 1c composite just now about the tool positions the hammer and the track tension tool whare were they stowed? I see the hammers mount is on the rear of this VC imbue noticed on 1Cs there not and some say not to put the stowage bin on the back of the 1C but I've seen plenty real old ww2 photos of it with it on both front and rear

Jesus Christ, havent they ever heard of WD40, spray that track and get the rust off.

@wimb78

5 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of Fireflies here in Belgium especialy near Bastogne, all very good maintained (the outside 'cause all hatches are welded)

So basically the firefly is holding its gun gangsta style

Do the M-51 Super Sherman!

i liked the music... the first 300 times i heard it

Comet tank next? :D

I really want a Firefly.

Looks like he is wearing a sombrero at 16:30. 😂

Could the Firefly be improved if it utilized the T23 turret?

When i saw the tank in the video i went like, Okay thats Arsenalen, since ive been there.

Whilst Yad La-Shiryon (officially: The Armoured Corps Memorial Site and Museum at Latrun, central Israel ) has PLENTY of Sherman variants on show , it lacks the Firefly , which is somewhat disappointing

There are historical sources that confirmed that the Pershing's T26 turret could feasibly be fitted onto the Sherman's turret ring. Unconfirmed sources also said that Brigadier General McLeod Ross once suggested mounting the 17-pounder gun into the T26 turret. Neither proposals ever became a reality. Could the larger T26 turret armed with the 17-pounder gun be a better fit for the Sherman Firefly?

have you done a video on the valentine

Sherman firefly: im very powerful Maus: HA! Hold my beer

"SIR! THE 17 POUNDER WON'T FIT!" "PUT IT IN SIDEWAYS" "THE RADIO WON'T FIT!" "CUT A HOLE AND HAVE IT STICK OUT THE BACK" "THE ENGINE'S NO GOOD!" "GET FIVE CAR ENGINES AND PUT THEM TOGETHER"

@thebasicmelon3373

3 жыл бұрын

this comment is copied

@Momo_Kawashima

3 жыл бұрын

@@thebasicmelon3373 most of these are

@thebasicmelon3373

3 жыл бұрын

@@Momo_Kawashima so you did copy the comment

@YurkoYuriev

3 жыл бұрын

lmao

Anyone else notice Sir David Fletcher photo (video?) Bombing in the last few minutes of this video lmfao

I have question that's been bugging me, the Sherman III had a 6 pounder gun, the Firefly had a 17 pounder gun. So the 17 pounder shell is roughly 3 times as heavy right? Shouldn't it cause about 3 times the damage then? In-game, the 17 pounder gun only does about double the damage of the 6 pounder,. In the Napoleonic era, a 18 pounder cannon was far more accurate and damaging then a 6 pounder, but I don't know if that translates into modern tank shells.

@pixelbucket8884

7 жыл бұрын

Damage in the game is based on caliber, not weight. The 6 pounder is a 57mm. The 17 pounder is 76.3mm.

@Edax_Royeaux

7 жыл бұрын

But isn't it housing almost 3 times the explosive?

@valtrmasteroftheleague2281

7 жыл бұрын

ltflak there's also the point of balance. If it were to deal that much more damage, they'd have to kill the rate of fire to balance it out. either way works, but it seems to me that they want the more realistic RoF for the 17 pounder

@SutzStaffe89

7 жыл бұрын

I believe the Brits only used solid shot ammo, no explosive filler... If that was your question...

@Edax_Royeaux

7 жыл бұрын

@Valtr, Yeah, it's just when I hear the tank has a awkward giant gun that fires something almost 3 times as heavy as the previous gun that can slay Tigers, I was expecting something that fired slower and dealt a lot more damage.

Any idea on what and when the US started using "Christie type" torsion bar suspension in their tanks? The ":record" states that the military liked the Christie type suspension but found the man (Christie) too hard to deal with. He went on to sell his ideas around the world.

@calvingreene90

4 жыл бұрын

Christie suspension uses coil springs not torsion bars.

Didn't the U.S have a Sherman that was similar to the Firefly called the easy 8 or was that something completely different?

@onur97able

4 жыл бұрын

No E8 was a different variant than firefly E8 has larger t66 tracks with Horizontal Volume Spring Suspension (HVSS) and was fittied with a improved version of the Hellcat's m1a1 76 Firefly was pratically sherman mounting a 17 pounder and nothing more

@onur97able

4 жыл бұрын

@John Cornell 17 pounder's combat performance is often overexagrated M1A1/2 l/55 and QF 17 pounder l/50 was comparible to kwk 42 7.5cm gun

Oddball (Kelly’s Heroes) put a section of pipe on the end of his cannon so the Germans would think he had a Firefly 17 pounder.

Why was the A.30 inadequate?

@garethfairclough8715

7 жыл бұрын

Massive turret, with a lot less armour that was also a lot flatter.

@TheChieftainsHatch

7 жыл бұрын

Huger, less reliable, poorly laid out.

@ChapBloke

7 жыл бұрын

I see, I suppose my next question would be why were they unable to fix the problems with the A.30? Was it a case of the original Cromwell chassis being too difficult to work with, or they just knew better once they tried it with the Sherman, I suppose on that note, why didn't the Sherman get a completely new turret like the A. 30?

@ChapBloke

7 жыл бұрын

True, but then couldn't you argue that starting on a new design on a different tank from scratch, as opposed to simply continuing to work with something you're familiar with, would lead to more wasted time? I'm going to assume that Brighty and Witherage had drawn up plans for using the Sherman for a 17 pdr. mount before or during A.30 development.

@ohslowpoke4720

7 жыл бұрын

If you want to be really pedantic the A.30 was actually shorter than the Firefly (and regular Sherman) by about half a foot! And a good portion of it's height was turret rather than hull which in theory should have made it easier to conceal.

I have a major question for anyone and everyone. How do I remove the turret on the Sherman firefly ? And can I put a black powder charge like naval guns do to fire a round ? I need step by step instructions on turret removal.

Were there any 90mm Sherman's?

Which is the most popular variant of the Sherman tank? The Easy Eight, The Jumbo, or the Firefly?

@beersmurff

5 жыл бұрын

Any burning Sherman is a good Sherman :-P

@billytheshoebill5364

2 жыл бұрын

@@beersmurff lmao

Ah the FireFly, can never have too many Sherman variants. Since ya know Shermans are best tanks.

@GlebVysok

6 жыл бұрын

clothar23 shermans werent the best tanks. Forward the shermans were the panzer 4 and the t-34s

@raiben4437

6 жыл бұрын

There we're no best tanks of the war

@bradjohnson4787

6 жыл бұрын

What would you use as a measure to determine the best tank?

@KevinShihKevinFresh

5 жыл бұрын

Well it did do many of the things that would qualify it for the best tank. It was easy to get out of, had pretty decent armor, was easy to mass produce, was reliable, and didn't break down that much. Depending on the variant, it had a decent or capable gun that was able to knock out tigers and panthers.

@beersmurff

5 жыл бұрын

Best tank, depends on Country, doctrine and role. There is no single answer. It also depends on the situation you most often will get into, how the infantry is equipment and what you are fighting. The M4/PzIV/t-34 were a jack of all trades. Not excellent at any, but good in all. As a medium battle tank needs to be. You have tank destroyers, mobile artillery, heavy tanks, light tanks and so on for the rest. M4 fared poorly against the Panthers and in general the German tanks, but that's when you call in tank destroyers or move your force of attack to a less equipped part of the front or take your time and start pounding them with artillery and air support. US was in no hurry. So they didnt need a break through tank like the Germans used. Different doctrines. German infantry in 44 had a higher firepower per unit, than the US, so Germany focused their medium tank, the Panther more on tank vs tank fights, with infantry and assault guns providing enough fire power for the job, with out the Panther. Its all apples and oranges.

Go Maith

It was about the AMMO. APDS ammo made the difference.

What happened yo the road wheels yo get them so distorted?

You really have to wonder about WW II Brit Tankers. Did they wear berets because they could not get decent helmets? I read where half the British tank casualties were head injuries.

@maxharter5716

5 жыл бұрын

It wasn't because they couldn't get ahold of them, it's because they refused to wear them.

@beersmurff

5 жыл бұрын

A lot of tanks were so cramped, that a helmet would get stuck in any lever or handle. So it was a trade off. More safety or get stuck and annoyed all the time. Most tank crews of both allied and axis forces didnt use helmets. A padded cover was often enough to prevent bruises. And you dont poke out when being shot at. Besides. If a 75mm AP hits your tank, a helmet wont save you 9/10 times. What saves you, is not getting torn apart and being able to quickly leave the burning tank before the next shot hits.

@aseriesguy

5 жыл бұрын

If nobody wore head protection then according to official casualty stats Brits were just plain clumsy.

@beersmurff

5 жыл бұрын

I am sure some wore. I bet some US rule required helmet use. They had a lot of strict rules. But I doubt many followed them. And yes, if your statistic is correct, it might seems so, because not many wore helmets inside the tanks. but do those head wounds list by what? I imagine a lot might be caused in the early years by fragments. British riveted armor was famous for spalling rivets when being hit by even small caliber tank guns. Could also be the design of british tanks. If they had a bad view and was prone to drive with their heads up. Also, do the list include Bren Carrier personel. Those make sense, seeing driver and passengers had their heads over the armor.

so in the movie "fury" the sherman tank actually didnt have the machinegun seat?

@TheChieftainsHatch

6 жыл бұрын

Fury was a 76mm tank, not a 17pr tank

@mercedes1254

4 жыл бұрын

The tank in "Fury" wasn't a "Firefly".

Nearly missed the noise!

is the firefly more famous than the easy 8? Personally, I heard of the easy 8 multiple times before I heard about the firefly, but of course, as an american, my WWII reading is obviously biased towards my own county's contributions.

@peterson7082

6 жыл бұрын

Which "E8"?

@Wanderer628

6 жыл бұрын

More people are going to have heard of the Firefly than the E8. The Firefly was built in time for the Normandy Landings because the British foresaw the need for a heavier calibre gun to pen the new Tigers. As such it fought through every western front campaign and got such a fearsome reputation amongst the Germans that tank crews were ordered to make destroying it their top priority in any tank battle. (True fact, look it up.) In comparison the easy 8 came late in the war (Dec 1944) once the Americans realized their mistake in not having a heavier gun on their tanks. As you said, you only hear about it more because America doesn't really cover the contributions of other nations war efforts.

@peterson7082

6 жыл бұрын

+Wanderer628 Which "E8"? "E8" doesn't refer to a singular type of vehicle nor describes armament. The Tigers (assuming you mean the I) weren't new by that point ok time. The 17 pounder was introduced on the M4 as the Firefly primarily to encounter the anticipated amount of Panthers. There was never any official advisory to prioritize "Fireflies" or 76mm M4s over the rest either.

@Wanderer628

6 жыл бұрын

So you don't really counter anything I say. First you get overly pedantic when I obviously mean the easy 8. The 17 pounder was introduced as the only gun to reliably penetrate the front of a Tiger 1/2 and Panter. Again, nothing contradicted there. Then you say 'There was never any official advisory to prioritize "Fireflies" or 76mm M4s over the rest either. ' Really? Then look at this. 'This fact did not go unnoticed by the Germans, who realised that these long-barrel Sherman's posed a much greater threat to their heavy tanks than the normal Shermans, and German tank crews and anti-tank gun crews were instructed to eliminate Fireflies first. Similarly, the Firefly crews realised that the distinctive long barrel of their 17-pounder gun made the Firefly stand out from standard Shermans, so crews attempted to disguise their tanks to reduce the likelihood of being targeted. Some crews had the front half of the gun barrel painted white on the bottom and dark green or the original olive drab on the top to give the illusion of a shorter gun barrel.' Source is on the wiki page and is quoted on every educational article about the firefly. Doesn't change the fact that outside the general US population most people are going to have heard of the Firefly over the easy 8 late comer.

@KevinShihKevinFresh

5 жыл бұрын

The E8 is the last 2 characters of the M4A3E8 tank. Anyone with knowlege of Sherman variants would automatically know what he's talking about.

TOG II turret?

do a TIGER 2.....

Is it just a 100%British made replica or a US sherman with a bit of a few British upgrades/changes/modifications

@larshenrik8900

5 жыл бұрын

Mamzar Faisal All Shermans were american built

@larshenrik8900

5 жыл бұрын

Or Canadian if its a Grizzly

Is this a good tank at tier 6? Console player here. big fan of the M4 and Sherman Jumbo. Considering getting this baby

@DJxSAM23

7 жыл бұрын

I love it, better than it american counterpart for my eyes ! No aromor but a great gun ;) By the way, go get your chieftain, since you got it on console, lucky console peasant! :)

@HealthySkepticism1775

7 жыл бұрын

DJxSAM23 Lol i almost always play tier 5 to 7, to me those games are the most dynamic and fun. At tier 9 and 10 I feel like we are all just dumb lumpering juggernauts bouncing rounds like tennis balls and bleeding silver.

@HealthySkepticism1775

7 жыл бұрын

DJxSAM23 Funny thing is I've been a member of the P.C. Master race since the first Half Life mods that made CounterStrike but oddly enough I feel like WoT is just better on console.

@DJxSAM23

7 жыл бұрын

I can see your point of view and you're right, dynamic is there at this tier. Have fun on the battlefield!

@DJxSAM23

7 жыл бұрын

With the graphics on Console vs PC I can see why! I would go on Console, only if you keep your stat to be transfered, but it not going to happened. I'm just to far away to start a new account, got 4 to 5 years played on PC! :(

my father seems to be in this video -if this were filmed in december ,he died 31 dec.

They could have tried the T23 Turret for the 17 pounder :(

What the is the small flap on the side of the turret for?

@peterson7082

7 жыл бұрын

Pistol port, ammunition port, etc.

@SvenTviking

4 жыл бұрын

Nathan Peterson Or is it for ejecting shell cases?

If only the Brits had the Chieftain to inform them that The Firefly was both not feasible and unnecessary. ^^

where is this museum?

@TheChieftainsHatch

7 жыл бұрын

Just outside of Stockholm.

I would trust the firefly

Tiger tanks required more time in production then allied tanks.