Hope you enjoyed this slightly different video! 🧐 Would you like a long weekend in the ghost town of Malaysia? 😉❤️

@carlosbarra6236

2 ай бұрын

Bonjour, je vous pose des questions. Vous n'avez rien répondu, je me suis abonnée pour rien. Je crois, bonne journée.

@sallysampson628

2 ай бұрын

Nope!! Too scary for me!! X

@NigelOrmsvik

2 ай бұрын

Had a feeling almost like "The last of us" game. Spooky😮

@stevechilders2624

2 ай бұрын

The beach certainly looks beautiful, but I’m sure it’s too hot to sunbathe. And I am not too sure about the swimming. I really do enjoy your videos.

@stevechilders2624

2 ай бұрын

Make sure you prod people to subscribe. I checked and somehow I had been unsubscribed, but I’m now subscribed again.

How Ironic ... "Forest City" actually becoming a forest / jungle.

@vincentyeo88

Ай бұрын

Tarzan agrees. 🙃🤣

@aldarimana1743

24 күн бұрын

😅😂

This reminds me of the set of a post-apocalyptic sci-fi movie. It looks creepy, intriguing and oddly beautiful. The foliage is gorgeous. The black mold and the crocodiles though, make the place a hard pass for me.

It’s in Malaysia. The Chinese government instated strict currency controls and the Malaysian government was reluctant to let Chinese buy apartments.

@IA100KPDT

2 ай бұрын

nah, the project failed because DR M wanna restrict Chinese buying. It's well known in Singapore that Malaysian govt like to flip their policies like a pancake (Prata). Thats the reason why although Malaysian properties are 5-10x cheaper than Singapore, not many Singaporeans are rushing to snap them up. I have a friend who bought a terrace house in JB and lost 70-80% of value due to to govt policy changes.

@raymondloke

2 ай бұрын

It was promoted during the Najip Razak era but when Mahathir became PM again he restricted PRC purchases

@daymay1066

2 ай бұрын

Madey is a racist.

@user-gb2sw2no3l

2 ай бұрын

Get your facts right. This whole project was targeted for rich mainland Chinese people and not Malaysians. Malaysians honestly couldn't care less about this place.

@IA100KPDT

2 ай бұрын

@@user-gb2sw2no3l still doesn't change the facts Malaysian govt, esp under dr M, likes to flip their policy like prata. 😆

My dad has an apartment unit here. Its not as bad as the video made it out to be. We are not from Malaysia but from Indonesia, we do use this place as a second home so rarely here but we maintain it well. Currently we are staying here for midterm stay. But most of the units arent purchased by malaysians and act as a second home thus not many people stay here long term. But they do have a functioning school that is attended by child of parents living here. And the residents constitutes of mostly foreigners. In my floor out of the 8 units 5 are resided and renovated but the other 3 is sold out but the owners never did anything to them as they are not from here. In my building there are Koreans, Chinese and Indonesians staying here. Its actually quite lovely and lively. We stay at ataraxia park 1 overlooking a swimming pool and its used daily by the residents almost all the time with minimum occupancy so you can enjoy the pool to your group if you time accordingly. The tennis courts and basketball courts are daily used too. Facilities are complete and whats great is due to the place not being so crowded the air is always great, barely any pollution. So if you like a modern atmosphere but want to do a getaway I think this place is the best of both worlds. The only downside i would say is that you need a car here as public transport to the downtown are of Johor is not frequent and its quite a ways away. But if you commute to singapore itll take you to the heart of singapore in 45 mins driving during non rush hour times.

@Ameng3471

Ай бұрын

Thank you for being a supportive neighbour. We welcome you anytime anyday

@6Haunted-Days

Ай бұрын

Yea whatever…..no one was lying or trying to lie…..what TF…..you’re the one who’s obviously lying….and I’m sure you didn’t even watch the video

@andrewstones2921

Ай бұрын

It’s hard for British people to understand Asia property. Just because few people reside there does not mean it was bad for the developer, most of these users its are sold LONG before they are built. Also, it’s so new that it’s impossible to know what will happen, in Malaysia something that looks unfinished can be completed very very quickly.

@henrikibjensen3869

Ай бұрын

I guess non rush hour is like 00 to 24.😉

@deniseabbott5114

Ай бұрын

@@andrewstones2921 I’m not sure they were British also don’t lump us all together. I have travelled a fair bit and visited several Asian countries, Penang in Malaysia is one of my favourite destinations in the entire world, unfortunately my health is too bad to travel any more , in fact we were considering moving to Malaysia in our retirement !

Imagine you are a streamer who works from home and live here..... it's like a dream

@pokerdealer2003

2 ай бұрын

Thats a straight up Nightmare, wake me up please.

@lookingbehind6335

2 ай бұрын

Not really, you would worry about it falling down because of tofu dreg construction. Those towers will be a rotting, rusty heap within another decade.

@TheJadedSkeptic

Ай бұрын

@@lookingbehind6335 you're sad

@vincentyeo88

Ай бұрын

So you want to live without a community?

@castorchua

Ай бұрын

@@vincentyeo88 I do!

Reminds me a bit of the London Docklands area back in the day, huge hype then financial crash and developers struggling to sell the flats. Today the Docklands is full and buzzing.

@keangwooichoo6138

2 ай бұрын

That scale not seen in Malaysia. Takes time.

@FRIPPE_THE_GREAT

2 ай бұрын

It will take decades before the Chinese propert crisis has been sold. Maybe the Malaysian government could buy it cheap and attract other foreign buyers?

@millie9236

2 ай бұрын

Get rid of the black mold first.

@johndoh5182

Ай бұрын

@@FRIPPE_THE_GREAT Apparently you don't understand WHY these places aren't selling. You can't sell something cheap, when people are going to buy places expecting it to last decades because after all it's housing and cheap is still expensive, but that's not what happens with Tofu Dreg construction. Buildings like this are falling apart in CHINA ALL THE TIME, built by the very company(s) that built this project and don't for a second start to think they built it better outside of China because BRI projects around the world are experiencing problems because of poor construction. There was a housing complex just last week, built in the last 30 years that had to be demolished because it separated, where two segments of the building separated from each other which created of course all kinds of problems including gas leaks, but when a segment of the building that was leaning had part of the top fall away, it was demolished the next day. ALL THE TIME this happens in China and their BRI projects outside of China. These were built with the expectation that Chinese people would buy these places because the units were NEVER priced in a range that Malaysians could afford, and the ones who could enjoy their own places already, in the towns where they're from. There's also at least 2 ghost cities IN China.

@cherylrichard3059

Ай бұрын

@@FRIPPE_THE_GREAT GREAT LEADER MAHATHIR MOHAMAD said he hoped the monkeys would reclaim the island. 🥰

I'm in Forest City right now. It's quite empty but the non-tourist occupancy rate is rising. But for a place which is built for tourists, I find it ironic I kept being approached by security guards and told not to film in the buildings. Its a very irritating experience.

One of the best yet!!! Thank you guys.

@aldarimana1743

24 күн бұрын

Oh yeahh 😂😅😅😅😅

Truly fascinating! Thank you both for sharing.

That is so fascinating, but, yes, surreal! It has such potential and really is a nice idea.

It's built on land owned by the Sultan of Johor also currently the king of Malaysia...there's talk that the proposed high speed rail station will be diverted to Forest City

@Ameng3471

Ай бұрын

It is not land, it is sea. We sold the sea not land. How can you be so ignorant that the city was built on the sea, reclaimed ofcourse. And we sell sea, who else could sell their sea?

This was built so rich Chinese people could buy up Malaysian property. It was never meant for Malaysians , so the government restricted ownership. All work stopped immediately afterwards. That tells you everything you need to know. Also, the properties are not worth anything. Tofu Dreg construction is why it’s falling apart after 5-8 years. There’s hundreds of these places all over China. Millions upon millions of empty, half finished homes and apartments. That feeling of being watched is real. You were being tracked the entire time.

@Gman979

Ай бұрын

Dllmcfh. Hhmkachan

@johnsmith-ro2tw

Ай бұрын

Chinese construction companies build high rises everywhere in Australia too. And sure enough, the news regularly report about those high rises that have serious construction defects, and are unsafe to live in, leaving the buyer who took a 30 years long loan with the bill.

@cherylrichard3059

Ай бұрын

Malaysia's GREAT LEADER, Mahathir Mohamed, didn't restrict ownership as these properties were already owned by rich Chinese. He limited CITIZENSHIP and RESIDENCY to the rich Chinese owners. He said this Chinese city was so high-tech no one in Malaysia knows how to operate it. He said it would inevitably become a center of Chinese power, wealth, and influence that would eventually control Malaysian politics, economics, everything. It's covert colonization by China. Same thing is happening wherever you have an area with a super rich foreign population embedded in a nation of relatively poor people. The rich foreigners will bribe, threaten, assassinate, their way to ever expanding and entrenched power and privilege. Like the rich Jews in the USA and all the Western nations. They have weaponized the governments against the natives, they've flooded the Western nations with hostile, military aged MEN to further BREAK DOWN THESE NATIONS to expand Jewish power and ownership of assets. China is simply copying the Jewish model, globally. It appears they're acting in cooperation with the Jewish banksters for joint global domination.

@Tideo123

Ай бұрын

If you follow China Ghosts you will soon become Ghosts of China.

@user-mz6iy5ip9o

Ай бұрын

The scale of the housing bubble is truly absurd

Compared to Los Angeles where I use to work and live, this GHOST CITY still a futuristic super clean city compared to 3rd world homeless zombie infested hell-hole American cities.

@buisnessclass9520

Ай бұрын

At least American built infrastructure don't fall apart in 5 years like China tofu dreg buildings

@Jiidwag

Ай бұрын

@@buisnessclass9520 Are u kidding me?🫠🫠🫠US infrastructure been collapsing by the 1000s, all u have is FAKE MEDIA that keeps things together🤣

@kevinrice7635

16 күн бұрын

Yeah agreed 👍

Wow that is mental...so interesting brilliant video

Why do they say fail china ghost city. This is a joint project of China private real estate and Malasian company.

What a weird place. Definitely very odd vibes. As you say more questions than answers. As always thanks for the insight. ❤

@peekaboopeekaboo1165

2 ай бұрын

Funny twist and spin ! Nothing "weird" about apartment building complexes .

@sandrashane677

Ай бұрын

@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 empty cities are extremely weird. get a grip on reality.

@peekaboopeekaboo1165

Ай бұрын

@@sandrashane677 Fake news and disinformation > ghost city/town There are only abandoned high-rise, condo-apartment complexes .

This "ghost city" is in Malaysia not China but was built by a Chinese company.

@palmpalm5131

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, kind of misleading to say Chinese ghost city. Makes people think it’s in China but it’s actually in Malaysia. But there’s so much anti China propaganda that I guess you get more views if you make people believe it’s in China instead of Malaysia.

@karmenmiles-mesch9295

2 ай бұрын

That is what they said.

@user-gb2sw2no3l

2 ай бұрын

But it is run by China and catering to people from China. Malaysians are not even interested in these apartments.

@bidenblows24_7

2 ай бұрын

That's what they said if you would have paid attention.

@patrickjebireden1286

Ай бұрын

​​@@keepcreationprocessJB 10:12 Johor State in Malaysia.

Such a high quality video. Thanks guys.

I really appreciate all the research Matt shares with us!

@karmenmiles-mesch9295

2 ай бұрын

And Julia....

Great vid very strange to see this place thanks for this last weeks vlogg wa good also 👍👍

I don't see a future for this apartment complex.

Another cracking video guys.

great honest vid. Thanks

Looks great, I'd live there. If someone was willing to spend the money, I bet they could make it work. Drop prices, turn half of it into hotels, make it a tourist destination instead of a residential area.

What a waste of resources :( And in many other parts of the world people cannot find a home. Let alone millions of refugees who have nowhere to go. What a world ....

@keangwooichoo6138

2 ай бұрын

Malaysia can place 100k rohinyas here to make it "vibrant" but they will mess it up like our towns.

@canalesjuan356

2 ай бұрын

It's a commercial project. And you can't force people to like it. That's it.

@NicolasValentinScotland

2 ай бұрын

If you work you can find a home to buy . Refugees can stay where they are .

Actually properties there got 85% ownership rate/sold, just 2% occupancy rate because it's mostly second/vacation home for the owners. That's why they're maintained beautifully without much problem

@newgabe09

26 күн бұрын

Mould and dirt doesn't sound like 'beautifully maintained'

@Raven_Ray1

4 күн бұрын

​@@newgabe09the theme it self "forest" city. You think it would get paint with green color?

Great job on the video!

I wonder when developers will realize that most people don't want to live in bleak modernism, they want human-scaled walkable environments.

Your vlog from Forest City has the impression that it sheds a lot of knowledge about certain matters related to China, especially the explanation of the reasons for its failure. From what I read after your vlog, the project itself was also scandalous in many cases when it comes to nature-related destruction. This also sparked protests in Singapore. And the very sight of this abandoned city, before it really started to come alive, resembles a sci-fi disaster movie. As if a significant part of humanity had been exterminated and its few remnants remained in the buildings left by our civilization. Quite a telling sight for us humans. Regards.

What a beautiful place actually, and the peace and quiet may be a bit eerie but after a couple of days or nights in most Asian cities, it could be quite nice too, I guess. I hope they succeed in the future though!

@keangwooichoo6138

2 ай бұрын

If I hv the money, I do not mind living in a tax free zone like this. No annoying neighbours at the villas

excellent and unusual episode thanks guys muuuuuuha x

I live in Southern California. In 2019, I had someone come and give me an estimate for some construction work to do at my house. The price was two and a half times more expensive than what I expected. I asked him why. He told me that construction materials had gone Sky High. The reason was China was buying up all the local construction materials because they were booming in China! Now, I read and hear about ghost cities in China and can't help get angry about all the waste. It's hard to believe a country can allow such a thing to happen.

@johnsmith-ro2tw

Ай бұрын

it may have to do with the mindset in China, which is : get rich quick, by any mean. With that mindset, you don't build to last. The irony is, once those Chinese folks become wealthy, well, they want to spend it, and they spend it on quality stuff, which Europeans/Japanese built to last. Think a mercedes car, or a winery whose land is not polluted in Europe, or a manor in Europe. As soon as they become wealthy, they move their money (and themselves) to a country where things have historically been built to last (=the West, and more specifically, English speaking countries). Why we have higher standards in general, may have to do with the influence of Christianity in the West, which teaches us that being obsessed with money is bad and wrong.

@cherylrichard3059

Ай бұрын

No, it's not because of China. It's because Wall Street brokers, since 2008, have the right to OWN COMMODITIES. They HOARD COMMODITIES they own to HIKE PRICES for HUGE PROFITS. People have made videos showing hoards of lumber and other construction materials around the US, on ships loaded with shipping containers.... The news will say, "Supply chain problems lead to scarcity of materials in stores, that's why prices are up.' Bollocks. It's Wall Street brokers HOARDING for SUPER PROFITS. Congress let them start OWNING COMMODITIES. That's something NEW, and it's why prices of everything keep HIKING.

@cherylrichard3059

Ай бұрын

FOOD IS A COMMODITY. THEY (WALL STREET) HOARD FOOD, THEY WIPE OUT AGRICULTURE VIA WEATHER WARFARE, SANCTIONS ON FERTILIZERS, AND OTHER MEANS. THEY ENGINEER SCARCITY. THEY MAKE HUGE PROFITS.

@cindywoods9800

15 күн бұрын

That is why we MUST VOTE with care. The current ‘administration’ has NO locality to American or Americans. Vote Republican …. And NOT Rhino Republican!

@Dalmenco

14 күн бұрын

They should have a limit to buying building materials.

Interesting video but a couple of minor quibbles: Forest City is not a Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) project. They tend to be state-backed public infrastructure projects, this is a private real estate venture between County Garden and the Sultan of Johor businesses. Secondly it’s not a $100 billion city, the actual cost is $4 bn.

@SSxxx18

2 ай бұрын

No minor, actually. Vloggers mostly copy each other for volume. Dun really care about all facts. It can also a convenient arena to smear BRI and China.

@Sealight007

2 ай бұрын

Looks like the Sultan keeps pouring money into the place to keep it up. Come back in 5 years. It will probably be booming.

@firerock9320

Ай бұрын

@@Sealight007 With Chinese construction? Tofu buildings will collapse in 5 years.

@CaptainKremmen

Ай бұрын

The estimate of $100 billion as the budget for the project appears in many reputable sources, including Bloomberg.

@Houthiandtheblowfish

Ай бұрын

this is a money laundering scheme and form of capital flight in the name of so called investing

great video

Thank you for this video. Im malaysian and staying in Malaysia but didnt know or heard the existence of this place. Such an eye opening.

@fainitesbarley2245

2 ай бұрын

It’s so strange that people in the country don’t know about it. Like they didn’t actually want people to move in?

@hermanmoncerate6112

Ай бұрын

Maybe there is not much publicity in Malaysia because this project was intended mainly for middle income mainland Chinese. I have read, very few Malaysians can afford to live here, anyway.

@capricorn839

Ай бұрын

The whole city was built on reclaimed land. Reclaimed land requires many years to settle down otherwise.....good luck to those who bought the property there

@klloo5689

24 күн бұрын

I'm Malaysian Lol and I've definitely known about Forest City, like in any country there are those who only read tabloid news 😄

I wonder why the Malaysian authorities don't just compulsorily purchase the whole area and take control of the development. It must have massive potential being so close to Singapore.

@mountainwest3444

2 ай бұрын

I agree.

@keangwooichoo6138

2 ай бұрын

Any land of the Johor sultanate is johor's business. It is the most powerful state in Malaysia with their own army. No kidding. So the gov of Malaysia can assist in policies eg easing criteria for mm2h, easing visa, tax free status. It cannot afford paying 100b USD. That is madness. We have many world class projects to complete like the ECRL train from Thai border, the Pan Borneo (1600 km) highway. The KL to Singapore HSR. It is a mega private initiative. Nothing to do with Malaysian gov.

@user-hp5bl8qu2q

2 ай бұрын

You guys knocked it out of the park with this video.Icould actually feel the desolate feeling that you spoke about.Did you get a good Chinese meal out of It cause I know know you like to eat!!!!!!😊Kathy here subscriber from USA.

@SSxxx18

2 ай бұрын

The place is already quite well sold. And new islands are not reclaimed yet.😂

@keangwooichoo6138

2 ай бұрын

@SSxxx18 maybe speculative buying. Not staying there. So after 5 years can sell.

Great video Kids!!

Now, this is great content! ;ooo :O

I've never heard of this place, but it's fascinating. I bet the Al Maktoum family could turn that place around and make it into a new Dubai in no time at all. It's all about the marketing now, because the infrastructure seems to be there.

@Ameng3471

Ай бұрын

I remember those day when they predicted that the palm jumeirah will failed due to delays but look what happened to palm jumeirah now. Hope we could be as successful as palm jumeirah does

Well your questions can be easily answered. In fact the stage one is almost sold out. That is no joke. But the company lacks of delivery of delivery. Either they are not finised inside, or the buyers are not allowed to acquire. Because most buyers are Chinese. The cash has already flown for long time, but they cannot become owners because of governmental restrictions. In addition the buyers were promised to get mm2h status, but that will not be the case as they will not fullfil the revised much harder conditions. Whitout mm2h, they cannot move in and so they are hoping to get back the money they spent. Unfortunately, Country Garden has defaulted in their interest payment on their bonds and so the company will soon be delisted from Hongkong Stock Exchange. That means that the company itself will be put under liquidation and therefore they cannot continue operations for the moment. You must consider that Country Garden is only one typical project of the company, there are many others of similar size all around China, which are also sold out but not delivered yet. If there is no solution to this company, it might become the biggest desaster that ever happened in Chinese housing. So there are speculations that the government will step in soon and provid the company with fresh funds, as China cannot afford to liquidate this company. But it is really the last chance. However, it is unliely that this lead into stage 2-4. More likely they will finish stage 1 and find an exeption agreement with the Malay Government, so that the chinese buyers can acquire ownership and MM2H-residency. But this will come to a huge cost as it is hard to deal with Malay Government.

@SafeAndSounds

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for clarifying.

@es9382

Ай бұрын

So Essentially the Malays fk them...

@Milarz

Ай бұрын

What info source are you using to determine that "stage one is almost sold out"?

@Aliphatic

Ай бұрын

Get lost chicoms you all bring disasters everywhere you all go

@byteme9718

Ай бұрын

It's not sold out, stop repeating empty claims. Dealing with the Malay government is easy, you just have to bribe the right people.

This is really a strange place you found. As you mentioned completely opposite to Singapore in all ways. Thanks for posting this video. Regards from Denmark

The video is about a Ghost City in Malaysia and the buildings are in Malaysia, not China.

There are so many properties in central Johor with an equally short trip to Singapore including Forest Cities long completed little sister called Country Garden. The project is supposed to be on 4 islands and was supposed to take 25 years when announced. As for the beach and the water nice to look at but to harsh to play on and definatley dont go in the water. Its not very clean and there are Crocs!

Love your videos, interesting, informative, a great sense of humour, and very well filmed. Keep safe guys 🤗🤗❤️❤️

It must be a little sinister to be in a deserted city. Happy travels to you both 😊

Very interesting!!!

It's safe to say the developer made a bad investment.

@cosmoray9750

Ай бұрын

Yep. It's explained @ 7:05 a combination of bad policies. It's still a nice place. However the developer needs to sell it at a discount at this stage. It is better to take a hit now then to lost the entire investment.

@unconventionalideas5683

Ай бұрын

The developer was Country Garden, which is now bankrupt owing to China's real estate woes.

Great video, Matt & Julia!

What an amazing and strange place. Thank you for the tour

....looks so nice.....now I want to move there. Great video.

This video is fantastic! Thank you for making it

I worked in Bahrain in 1995 - 98 . Property development was ahead of population numbers. I was part of a building team , building a shopping centre. When completed only the cinema let in the first year. A year year later a super market and three or four shops. It is a good sign if the toilets flush, grass is cut, streets are clean.

Good video very interesting...Amazing...🤔

No annoying neighbours. Just the birds and beauty. Maybe not a bad investment or place to live.

Amazing video!

I still think I'd prefer China's model. Have too many homes and not enough people, with very little in the way of homeless people. Compare that to US, Canada, Australia UK... Where there are NOT enough homes, skyrocketing prices, and empty homes washing dirty money.

@dyrectory_com

2 ай бұрын

This project had nothing to do with the Chinese gov't. Giving it a title with "China" it in give the connotations that it was a state sponsored and funded project - this was not the case. Read up on it here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_City,_Johor 🔍

@millie9236

2 ай бұрын

However, not working.

@joewong438

2 ай бұрын

No enough people. Built for Singaporeans。have friends live there……

@_bbie

2 ай бұрын

maybe you should move here😂

@SimonCU

2 ай бұрын

yes US need to learn from China and other Asian countries to fight their homeless inflation issues. The only way to do it is to build more homes like this.

Great video of a ghost city 😊

This kind of place is so amazing, peaceful and modern in one

how bizarre, how bizarre....

Interesting story. ❤

@MattandJulia

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! ❤️

I've been hearing about this place for many years and I'm absolutely astounded that they are still building! The place is beautiful but I heard that no one wants to live there because it's too far away from the city. Are the buildings being maintained or are they left to decay? That pool or fountain at 21:46 is beautiful as well as all the vegetation in the complex. It's highly doubtful that anyone there will answer questions honestly. It's like you went to sleep and woke up to find that everyone had disappeared. Those nighttime views tell a big tale. 😄

Brilliant. Video. Job well done ❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

How dare anyone ask questions about a property they may want to buy! Just sign here and hand over the cash.

@GM-cq6ez

2 ай бұрын

There is obviously more there than meets the eye.

@sleo3720

2 ай бұрын

They are not stupid they know that these vloggers are not there to buy

@Parawingdelta2

2 ай бұрын

@@sleo3720 Fair point. They can probably 'sniff out' who's genuine and who's not.

@lookingbehind6335

2 ай бұрын

Garbage like this is why Chinas economy is crashing. There’s hundreds of these towns all over China proper.

@henrikibjensen3869

Ай бұрын

@@Parawingdelta2 And sniffers are bad because ... eh why?

Awesome video w/ great content. I saw your channel when you guys had 2,000 subscribers. Now, you have over 200K subscribers. Great work and good luck to more ahead!

I don't know why people keep calling this place "shocking" when it would be a dream for most introverts to live there. There is nothing structurally wrong with the apartments. There is water, electricity and rubbish collection. As long as you have a car I see no problem in living here

Matt oversold the spooky element of the city. Maybe do a Ghost hunting channel.

Chinese Developers make their money by churning out properties like these to sell to Chinese buyers. Chinese buyers do not buy these properties to live, but as investments. They buy apartments (usually their second by now), to hold until the value appreciates, and then sell to get a return on their investment. Forest City failed because a) the pandemic - buyers or potential buyers could not travel to Johor to view the development and put a deposit on their new apartment. b) Then Malaysia had a change of govt and the new govt was not so inviting to Chinese investors, particularly in property. c) Then the Chinese govt also cracked down on property investments, and on outflow of capital, so buyers could not service their mortgage for an apartment or home in Malaysia. And I am sure there were other issues. But overall, the plan and intended customers for Forest City was not based on reality. The plan was to build 700,000 units. On reclaimed islands. And priced for Chinese buyers but not Malaysian (local) buyers. The locals could not afford the units. And where would the 700,000 new home owners work? Are there offices, or businesses for 700,000 employees? The reality is that developers do not worry about the bigger picture. There is no bigger picture for them. Build the units, sell them, then move onto the next development.They have left a trail of ghost cities and uncompleted homes in the wake of the property development crash in China. This just happens to be in Malaysia. There are no industry in Johor that will need 700,000 workers who can afford homes in Forest City.

@Ameng3471

Ай бұрын

No worries. We sold the sea, we kept the money to taxpayer coffers and leave to the buyer to do whatever they want with that sea. Malaysia didnt lose a dime. And malaysia didnt bother to buy the property as we have plenty of landed hose already. Who need house on the sea?

@henrikibjensen3869

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the analysis.

@capricorn839

Ай бұрын

@@Ameng3471 Probably the local fishermen

Question: did you do the drone shots? I'm surprised you'd have "permission" to do that... so so strange. Creepy beyond belief.

interesting. Thanks!

This place is gonna be poppin in 10-20 yrs.

Hi you two, this is the first time I've heard of Forest City, what a bizarre experience...it was really interesting to watch but I have so many questions which I'm sure you both do as well....very odd..... thanks for all you do! xox

@MattandJulia

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! Really glad you enjoyed it 🥰❤️

A place that big and it leaves me with out a thing to say or ask ...... well done

Straight out of a science fiction novel or Gabriel Garcia Marquez! Other worldly! Crazy weird. Eerie is the word. Thanks for this totally bizarre clip! Tashkent on Tuesday!

How can they turn these places into usable space.? Convert them into high retirement resort style apartments, and market them to the European, American and Japanese aging population. Currently, the Malaysian currency is cheap compare with the US$, EU-Euro and Japanese yen. Even neighbouring Singaporean might be interested. Many of them could become Malaysia, my second home residents. No?

@rolandskelcher3774

2 ай бұрын

Extremely good idea, they should market it to the western countries, lots retirees (if Malaysia MM2 requirements are cheaper/lower) will be interested if outgoings r not too high. It’s actually at a very good site

@MarcusAurelius2020

2 ай бұрын

It's all about the $$$

@Crocoeyes

2 ай бұрын

You won't believe this but the retired European are actually poor now

@rolandbol7350

Ай бұрын

As a European I would prefer Spain, where you can find beach property at similar prices, without the crocodiles and mold (but check carefully), within the EU and with your home country health care coverage. Americans would probably be hesitant about a Muslim country and prefer Costa Rica or Thailand. If you want to populate phase one quickly, move the people of Gaza there.

@Ameng3471

Ай бұрын

They did promoting the place to every continents of the world. There are no specific nationality requirements, it is open to all human being, with money ofcourse

Loving your channel both of you. There is a part of Tianjin in China which is very similar to this - a complete ghost city with incredibly ornate houses. I stayed at the Tianjin Goldin Metropolitan Polo Club hotel. There were about 20 of us staying in this huge, beautiful building, and my room was a palatial suite. I was the only one who used the massive indoor pool through the week I was there. Really worth a visit when you’re next in China 🙏🏽

@MattandJulia

2 ай бұрын

Ohhh interesting! We would love to visit for sure! 😍❤️

@ZhenYae

2 ай бұрын

In Vietnam too.

@HaloLounge

2 ай бұрын

Tianjin Goldin Metropolitan Polo Club ❤️

@keangwooichoo6138

2 ай бұрын

China mainland has many such cities. Normal there.

It's quiet, scenic, pleasant, and beautiful. Add people and you lose all that. Kind of like everywhere.

If this couple would have donated that money they selfishly used to make their bodies disfigured, they could have done a lot of good in the world.

WOW! YOU HAVE REALLY RAISED THE BAR WTH THIS VIDEO. i knew about this place and the Ghost Cities in China but I never thought I'd see one up close. It was, as you said Matt, incredibly eerie. It was also lovely. At night though, with the whole huge city in relative darkness, it feels almost trecherous. I can't thank you enough for going there...staying there!...You two are truly the best of exploreres. Love to You Both....Suzi

@1ako415

2 ай бұрын

this is in malaysia tho lol

@jenme4796

2 ай бұрын

What an idiot, this is not in China,

@henrikibjensen3869

Ай бұрын

Also interesting that this is the only such city we have seen. Why have no chinese bloggers shown cities in China? Oh..

This Forest City really makes me sad on so many levels. What a wasted beautiful place. Being where it is I guess they wouldn't allow an outside country to come in and take control. Has so much potential. I like quiet but this is on a different level. So different from the other places you have shared with us.

@MattandJulia

2 ай бұрын

For sure, that’s what fascinated us too, the silence is deafening ❤️🙏🏼

Great video, I was always interested in this project. Maybe they should have checked if the water was crocodile infested first.

Nice video

This project is intended for PRC & Singaporean, not for locals. That's why it's empty. What makes it more entangled is that this project still belongs to Country Garden.

@tstieber

2 ай бұрын

What do you think keeps it from being appealing to Singaporeans? Why do you think ppl from other parts of China aren't living there? Even for vacation homes?

@pipiqiqi4010

2 ай бұрын

it is for everyone who want to buy an apartment here if they have money.

What a mad ,weird, fascinating place..You did so well in describing it...thank you.😊

@MattandJulia

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much ❤️🙏🏼

Fair assessment

Welcome back to Malaysia. I;ve been watching your videos for a while now. What I heard they will open this housing city for Singaporean to buy since the economic downfall in China.

The developer is too lazy to send their marketing team to US & European investors.

Apocalyptic.....WOW😬

@MattandJulia

2 ай бұрын

So crazy right! 👻

What’s shaken? Nice upload. It would be really cool if you guys would show us the underground bunker part of the city that is underneath all that. Like someone said don’t worry it’s gonna be occupied really soon as soon as it is safe to come back up from down below.

Please be very careful it’s appears to be very sinister and creepy! ❤! Such a shame that a beautiful place is so abandoned.

@keangwooichoo6138

2 ай бұрын

Careful of what? Wild life? There are private security there.

I’d love to find out the truth about this city? Very odd and reminded me of I Am Legend! Ultimately though, with so many homeless people around the world it’s such a shame. Feel for those who are stuck there! As usual another fascinating vlog guys but like you I have lots of questions!! I must Google this place! 🥰🙅‍♀️🙅‍♀️

@MattandJulia

2 ай бұрын

Really glad you enjoyed it Sally! Glad we could share it 🥰❤️

Hope Malaysia government and private sector can joint venture and do something about it ... We will see if JS-SEZ could do something about it and we will see it in the next few years

@EGO0808

2 ай бұрын

Malaysia government? 😂

@klloo5689

24 күн бұрын

It's only creepy due to the background horror movie music accompanying this video Lol

it looks such a lovely place, i would stay there just for the reason its quiet!

Absolutely very strange indeed. Apparently there's not very many people who live there. Something like that situation would definitely give me the creeps.

An ant infestation coupled with Black Mold is enough to shut the whole place down as it is. It would probably cost millions just to deal with those two issues alone. The investment company and government should fix the place up and market it to expats and vacationing foreigners, for purchase or rent. Who wouldn’t want a three bedroom penthouse suite for $800 dollars a month. Something to think about………..

@EGO0808

2 ай бұрын

The group behind this construction, went down and that’s why it is as it is.

Wow! You two really do get around. Champs! As for the video, it reminds me of other similar failed developments in China where entire cities have been constructed and years - possibly decades - later, they look just like Forest City. Except you cannot really call these places abandoned because hardly anyone lived there in the first place. Fascinating and well done on going. The crocs are just being crocs, but the black mold, the incredibly derelict state of some of the buildings and the fact that the lighting is so bad at night means I think I'd be happy to pass.

Actually looks quite chill. Id love to live there as it would be quite a calming experience

Heavily crowded cities can be overwhelming... but, this ghost city can be kind of scary too!

Could Canada hire china with its billion dollar surplus and build a chinese ghost city here in Alberta Canada.

@aleksanderkuncwicz7277

2 ай бұрын

​@@keangwooichoo6138 yeah a payout Alberta has five billion surplus I think it could use some of the money to build homes but I wouldnt wont to meet the president.😅

Ps...no wonder you felt paranoid matt..that would freak me out