Inking with a brush: strokes and tips

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A clip following up on my Milton Caniff study...
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...talking about the strokes I used in that the most and other tidbits regarding learning how to ink well.
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  • @chodeshadar18
    @chodeshadar183 жыл бұрын

    Argggh! The way you just rendered the top of the skull in one stroke at 12:34! That's what I'm trying to learn to do!

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lot's practice! You'll get there! I'd recommend doing long hand calligraphy loops with a brush as a line control exercise to refine your control for things like that. The kind of think she's doing in this, kzread.info/dash/bejne/laiNw6uyp9fPd9o.html And I'm not doing them on camera but you can see the sort i use at 4 : 48 of this clip kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6Oupphsn9u2m7g.html

  • @myrkflinn4331
    @myrkflinn43316 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Because I need some good practice for using these brushes but also on how to be able to shade with them

  • @ezolnier
    @ezolnier6 жыл бұрын

    That's what I needed. Thank's for all the nice tips

  • @danmcdaid
    @danmcdaid7 ай бұрын

    I love this video, i come back to it quite a lot.

  • @hungerandpeace5887
    @hungerandpeace58874 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! You were a blessing to watch! 😭

  • @camilorylan138

    @camilorylan138

    2 жыл бұрын

    I dont mean to be so off topic but does anybody know a way to log back into an instagram account..? I was stupid forgot my password. I appreciate any help you can give me!

  • @agneshosni4787
    @agneshosni47873 жыл бұрын

    Re fountain pen fude nib fountain pen. Great range of stroke width. Like the name, brush

  • @Salgood
    @Salgood6 жыл бұрын

    Hi @HenryWrinkler, I don't see it here but your comment showed up in my notifications. The Brushes I use in this clip are mostly all synthetic hair brushes, so REAL brushes, not felt or rubber, they behave just like dip brushes. So no, the title is not misleading IMO.

  • @travisnobleart
    @travisnobleart Жыл бұрын

    Cool video. Nice ideas to practice along. Thanks.

  • @thrillaart7395
    @thrillaart73955 жыл бұрын

    This was a great video, thank you!

  • @OzgardenTsuge
    @OzgardenTsuge4 жыл бұрын

    Hello Sam. Could you tell me what is the tool you're usin' ? And can it be refilled ? Thank you.

  • @panzerpatriot4920
    @panzerpatriot49205 жыл бұрын

    Please,what are the brands of your fountain pens and black brushpen? I didnt hear that during the video.Thanks a lot.

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mostly they are Pentel brush pens, a Pocket brush, a thin Pigment ink brush, and I think I used an Art brush too. But first one you see is a Kurataka #8 fountain brush.

  • @panzerpatriot4920

    @panzerpatriot4920

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Salgood Thank you.And what about the fountain pens please?

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@panzerpatriot4920 you know I have to go and scroll through the video to find out myself now, this is an old video. You can do that yourself probably faster than I can read and reply?

  • @panzerpatriot4920

    @panzerpatriot4920

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Salgood Understood,thanks anyway!

  • @jamesostrander9454
    @jamesostrander94547 жыл бұрын

    Hey Sam, great video! Sorry if you have it written somewhere and I'm just not seeing it, but I was curious what song you used for the intro. Thanks!

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    7 жыл бұрын

    Country Road Late At Night, Dream The Dark Dream. by Sadoceanspacebear sadoceanspacebear.bandcamp.com/releases

  • @jamesostrander9454

    @jamesostrander9454

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again! Appreciate it.

  • @ginc31
    @ginc316 жыл бұрын

    these exercises have to be with the brush pen or with a normal brush as well?

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    6 жыл бұрын

    Any brush. A hair brush, synthetic or natural, is the best over all but they apply to felt and rubber brush pens too. I this clip I use mainly the Kuretake No. 8 which is an excellent synthetic hair brush pen. And the Pentel Pigment Ink Extra Fine Brush Pen. Both are great, all of Pentel's synthetic brush pens are excellent really in my experience.

  • @DagosArts
    @DagosArts7 жыл бұрын

    What brush are you using?

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    7 жыл бұрын

    TigresToku I mentioned the names of it and others at 13:57

  • @DagosArts

    @DagosArts

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @neeekeee2791

    @neeekeee2791

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Salgood please write, I am not strong in English🙏

  • @ErikBongers
    @ErikBongers4 жыл бұрын

    You are using a brush pen. These typically have short hairs. Because of this, one tends to hold these like a pen or pencil. With actual brushes, that have longer hairs, you'll find that you'll have more control if you hold it fairly vertical. Also, the longer hairs smooth out your hand's movement, resulting in smoother lines.

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have actually used one Erik, I'm aware. I inked a few issues of a Terminator comic over Goran Parlov's pencils with a brush that was very nearly a rigging brush for exactly those reasons.

  • @chillbuddy4178
    @chillbuddy41784 жыл бұрын

    A little bit on the upside down side of things. Even when I turn off the rotate the screen button on my phone, if I try to rotate this to see it right side up it flips and makes it upside down again. I guess if I want to see this right side up I'll have to stand on my head! But I do appreciate all these tips

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    4 жыл бұрын

    It looks pretty much the same way when I teach people in person, you should be able to see what's happening and that's what's important!

  • @littleripper312
    @littleripper3124 жыл бұрын

    Your voice reminds me of Paul Giamatti a bit lol

  • @zeomora3512
    @zeomora35122 жыл бұрын

    I'm looking online and I was wondering if you or anybody has ever tried inking with Asian calligraphy brushes instead of western brushes? It should be the same right?

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely been done but not exactly the same no, they have different characteristics so you get different behavior from them.

  • @travisnobleart

    @travisnobleart

    Жыл бұрын

    Sumi ink painting... different brush hairs, usually-goat hair, wolf hairs. On rice paper, so you need to get used to the bleed through. Afterwards you'll mount it. You'll also mix your ink with water, which sumi can handle better than india ink. You're not thinking about shadows or light source in this style. The grip is different, you're not trying to be so detailed. It's a kind of 4-fingered manhandle way of holding the brush. Predominantly going north to south in a vertical hold, or east to west in a horizontal hold. I'm no expert, but I have worked in the style. Hope it helps, not too late.

  • @meenachiraman6602
    @meenachiraman66023 жыл бұрын

    Excuse me sir...can I use cheap ink for my drawing?

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    3 жыл бұрын

    well depends on what you mean by cheap. The ink for the brushes I'm using in this has to be able to flow through brush pens so while I don't spend a lot on it I don't use ink that will clog them. But if you're using dip brushes that's less of a worry, and India ink is not very expensive at all. But there's cheap good inks, and cheap bad shitty ink. I would stay away from bad inks. You might not know before trying one but you'll know if you do. They have grit in them, smell badly of chemicals sometimes, and dry odd tints of colour. You don't however need to spend a lot of money, for good ink as a rule.

  • @crakoa1254
    @crakoa12543 жыл бұрын

    I still can't make some lines using brush do you have any tips sir?

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not based on that total lack of info. "Some lines" tells me nothing.

  • @crakoa1254

    @crakoa1254

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry

  • @crakoa1254

    @crakoa1254

    3 жыл бұрын

    I meant like cross hatching

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@crakoa1254 well it depends on the kind of hatchling you're trying to get, might be you just want a look that comes from a pen/nib. But fine feathering lines should be crosshatchable. If you can't make the lines thin enough then you'll need to work on your feathering and line control some more.

  • @crakoa1254

    @crakoa1254

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mr Sam

  • @estevancarlos
    @estevancarlos7 жыл бұрын

    Is there a name for this style of inking?

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    7 жыл бұрын

    Brushy? Caniff? Oldschool? Not a formal one, but Milton Caniff would probably be considered a Silver Age (1956-1970) comics artist. Stylistically, he influenced MANY who came after right up to today, and solid brush inking and linework has never really gone out of fashion, even if people often do it digitally now.

  • @estevancarlos

    @estevancarlos

    7 жыл бұрын

    Okay thanks. I'm trying to find examples and tutorials for illustrations dealing with heavy shadows and limited thin line work. I wasn't sure if there may be a name for that style. I realize that the style I prefer relates specifically to brush work where consistently thin strokes are more limited. For example I like the work Al Columbia although he displays a certain range there. Thanks for the clarification though.

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    7 жыл бұрын

    You've got me curious, I've never really heard of a name for it but I'll ask around.

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    7 жыл бұрын

    One note, Al Columbia's work, not really the same school as Caniff but it's very much in the spirit of the Fleischer studios animation art style [think Betty Boop] and both his work and the Fleischer studios are influenced by what's called 'Bigfoot' style cartooning. That has very little to do with Caniff who was much more for the illustration and cinematic end of the stylistic spectrum, other than using brushes they don't have that much in common. One key distinction beyond cartoony vs realistic-ish characters, is the animation stuff all tends to have completed contour lines, with no open breaks in them. Whereas Caniff used a lot of broken 'lost line' effects in his work. A contemporary to Caniff who has some of his line weight, but more over all in common with the animation stuff, is Walt Kelly, of Pogo.

  • @estevancarlos

    @estevancarlos

    7 жыл бұрын

    Okay, thanks for that explanation. The similarity I see is mostly in regards to strong use of flat shadows as opposed hatching or expressions of shading. Al Columbia does have other work that excludes grays and those details. - 68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls91g9YvRE1qzekceo1_500.png However I wasn't aware of those other details you mentioning regarding cartooning, completed lines, and lost lines. Makes sense. Yeah, I have a hard time with the completed lines myself. I always want messy detail. So the reason I'm here is because I'm working on a project, illustrating environments in a virtual reality space. I'm trying to catch up on my distant illustration skills - estevancarlos.com/vr2/

  • @Jorigin
    @Jorigin5 жыл бұрын

    1.25 speed was actually perfect.

  • @HHeraclio
    @HHeraclio5 жыл бұрын

    You need to write "Brush PEN" on the title. The fact that, with a normal brush, you need to dip it into ink changes everything. I'm sure that you know this but the viewer may not. If brush pen is difficult, real brush is a seriously tough craft! Great vid though.

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've used both and really only changes the number of strokes you can make before loading the brush and controlling the wetness of the brush. The clip focuses on strokes and that does not really change.

  • @HHeraclio

    @HHeraclio

    5 жыл бұрын

    I still believe brush characteristics should be take into consideration. In case, the variation of the amount of water and ink that the brush hold every time you dip it. Brush pen has a constant and even flow of ink. With brush, you need to learn how the brush behave when you fill it with ink (too much ink, too little. Clean on the paper before, "sharpen the fibers"...). The brush hair also influence on the stroke, harder hair allows a heavier hand, softer hair lighter hand...

  • @zvonimirtosic6171

    @zvonimirtosic6171

    4 жыл бұрын

    The difference between Pentel or Kuretake synthetic self-feeding pocket brushes, and the traditional sable brushes in various sizes, is that a traditional sable brushes have more spring, offer necessary resistance against paper, and are more controllable. Both types are good for certain purposes, but for feathering, sable brush is a better choice because they come in different sizes and because of their better spring, and because of the more controllable spring, they produce better-looking long and consistent feathering lines, especially in curved shapes. For example, compare feathering in recent comics done with synthetic brushes, and feathering in comics done from 1930-70s, which were all done with traditional brushes.

  • @th-hannibal
    @th-hannibal4 жыл бұрын

    Why is the video upside down. Nice content but can’t see properly.

  • @Salgood

    @Salgood

    4 жыл бұрын

    Funny, when my students in a class stand around the table and have the exact same view, they have no problem seeing clearly. Use your imagination, you can actually see what i'm doing better in many ways from this angle. But you're commenting on a clip that's years old, do you imagine I can change it for you? Rotate your phone maybe. lol.

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