Infantry Fighting Vehicles in Ukraine - losses, lessons & will Western IFVs matter?

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While tanks and fighters tend to win public attention, the fighting in Ukraine has done a lot to remind us of the critical role played by the infantry. And to survive and thrive on the battlefield, the infantry in Ukraine rely on their armoured personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles to enable to enable movement and provide fire support.
Those vehicles, so critical to both sides have, however, been lost in extreme numbers - with no vehicle on the Russian side having suffered more visually confirmed losses than the BMP-2.
Now, it seems, the floodgates are opening on the supply of Western IFVs to Ukraine. In this video I look at these vehicles, their employment in Ukraine, and suggest that despite being lost in large numbers - that they will remain critical in the fighting to come.
Special thanks to those consulted for this video.
Patreon:
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Caveats & Comments:
I mispeak and call RUSI the "uniform services institute" - It is correctly (and has for the better part of two centuries) been the "united services institute."
As always, keep in mind that while visually confirmed loss data is among the best data we have for setting loss baselines, it is limited and should be interpreted with care.
To enable some of the analysis in this video, some data treatment was done - for example, entries for destroyed BMPs where the variant could not be determined were divided, pro-rata
Regarding the narrative - while the BMP-1 had a major impact, I should note that other IFV type vehicles preceded it - with perhaps the most significant being the German HS.30.
In this video, I call the Stryker an American vehicle due to its service. The vehicle has Canadian DNA and is built there
Notes/further reading:
pre-war equipment levels are as per Military Balance 2021 for consistency.
Loss and resupply data as per Oryx as noted:
www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02...
War for Ukraine - First Conclusions from 2022 and New Challenges 2023
• Video
Preliminary Lessons in Conventional Warfighting from Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine: February-July 2022
static.rusi.org/359-SR-Ukrain...
TASS - on the Bradley
tass.com/defense/1561793
TASS - on BMP-2 Production
tass.ru/interviews/15445983?u...
On the pledge of Marders and BMPs to Ukraine
www.defensenews.com/pentagon/...
Russian MoD claim of destroyed Bradleys is as per their official TG channel - September 4 2022
GAO assessment of Bradley and Abrams in Desert Storm
www.gao.gov/assets/nsiad-92-9...
Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Opening Words
00:01:57 - What Am I Talking About?
00:02:36 - SPONSOR: GROUND NEWS
00:03:43 - IFVs: History & Doctrine
00:03:52 - The Combined Arms Problem
00:05:17 - VARIETY OF RESPONSES
00:06:36 - Halftracks & APCs
00:08:05 - The BMP-1
00:10:14 - IFVs & Modern Mechanised Infantry
00:11:06 - Related Vehicles
00:12:08 - PRE WAR FORCES
00:12:13 - The Russian Arsenal
00:14:02 - The "Cutting Edge"
00:15:57 - Fossils
00:17:08 - Shortage Conditions
00:17:51 - The Primary Force
00:19:14 - The Ukrainian Armoury
00:20:07 - The Soviet Inheritance
00:20:28 - New Gen. Vehicles
00:21:28 - Western Systems
00:22:19 - LOSSES: AND WHY THEY AREN'T EVERYTHING
00:23:02 - Assessing Losses
00:23:59 - Overall Trends
00:25:54 - Visually Confirmed Losses
00:27:20 - ORYX IFV & APC Visually Confirmed Losses
00:29:07 - Russian Losses
00:31:24 - Analysing Ukrainian Losses
00:33:15 - Highlighting Outliers
00:36:08 - Three Common Potential Misconceptions
00:36:53 - ORYX Implied Net IFV Loss
00:38:18 - Colonel Reisner
00:39:27 - EMPLOYMENT & EXPERIENCE
00:40:11 - Infantry Support and Early Losses
00:41:50 - Vulnerability
00:43:15 - Relationship with Survivability
00:45:20 - Dispersion & Concentration
00:46:09 - A Critical Tool
00:48:07 - Static Warfare
00:49:03 - Through the Fog of War
00:49:49 - Potential Lessons
00:50:19 - RESUPPLY & REPLACEMENTS
00:50:28 - The Need to Replenish
00:51:40 - Russian Efforts (and Debates)
00:53:28 - Western Resupply
00:55:17 - The Shift To Heavier Materiel
00:55:59 - A Note on Quantities
00:57:19 - MEET THE CANDIDATES
00:57:24 - Marder
00:58:18 - M2/M3 Bradley
00:59:24 - Moving the Needle?
01:01:06 - STRYKER (+MGS)
01:01:44 - THE RUSSIAN RESPONSE
01:02:07 - 1: Gross Escalation
01:02:37 - 2: The System is Terrible
01:03:09 - 3: They Were Destroyed
01:03:51 - WHAT NEXT?
01:03:55 - The Resupply Effort & Losses
01:04:47 - Force Evolution: Russia
01:05:55 - Force Evolution: Ukraine
01:06:39 - Conclusions
01:07:35 - Channel Update

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  • @PerunAU
    @PerunAU Жыл бұрын

    Try Ground News today and get 15% by visiting ground.news/perun. Offer is only valid through the link! Many thanks again to those who contributed to the preparation of this video. Just to repeat a point in the corrections and caveats section before I'm blacklisted from a country, I wanted to note that while I call the Stryker an American vehicle (in American service) - I acknowledge its Canadian DNA and manufacture. Also from the caveats that's worth putting here - while the BMP-1 had a major impact on the development of AFVs everywhere, I do want to call out the West German HS 30 for beating it into service with a similar concept. Another editing flub was calling RUSI the "uniform" services rather than "united" services institute for lord know what reason and then missing it in editing. There would be more caveats and notes (such as noting Czech production of the BMP in addition to USSR figures) but I ran out of text allowance. The biggest caveat is to note, as always, that loss data from an ongoing war is subject to a significant degree of uncertainty. And apologies to the Germans in the audience - Early in the video I say SdKfz 241, instead of the correct 251. Missed that in editing. As always, thank you all for your engagement and support!

  • @nastygollum

    @nastygollum

    Жыл бұрын

    You're the best, mate. Your clear, concise and straight to the point way of presenting really captures me. Thanks again.

  • @lilkobabunga

    @lilkobabunga

    Жыл бұрын

    You ever thought doing a roundtable discussion livestream with the Chieftain and LazerPig? If not please do.

  • @knpark2025

    @knpark2025

    Жыл бұрын

    As an average video game player, I will say tech advantage and mass advantage are nothing against 12 hoverbikes or 11 winged monsters that can fling lethal projectiles and turn with infinite G-force.

  • @VES.

    @VES.

    Жыл бұрын

    forget what the joke was exactly but there it is. Bulgarian General asks Russian General why their vehicles are so horrendous in side. The Russian replys : - we wont our soldiers to be afraid from the vehicles, not the enemy. When the doors open they will gladly attack becouse they ware already in hell. if you go to war however you will prefer russian equipment since if it breaks you can fix it with a hamer, wire and blow torch. Nato's equipment cant be easyly fixed and is more succeptable to problems. Just found aout how unreliable is the Bradly and was shocked. I tought they fixed it already. after all it is 80's tech ...

  • @glenndean6

    @glenndean6

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd go one further on Stryker in that it's really a Swiss design (MOWAG Piranha) laundered through Canada by way of a US prime (GM, later GDLS-C via LAV) and eventually turned into a US sourced solution (Canada no longer manufacturing Strykers, though some parts are still sourced there).

  • @francois487
    @francois487 Жыл бұрын

    Who remembers the early days when Perun was like "I can't believe people want to watch hour-long slideshows on KZread, but here we are..."?

  • @guyk2260

    @guyk2260

    Жыл бұрын

    Will he ever get back to the day job ?😀

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    Жыл бұрын

    @@guyk2260 I still do it - sleep and spare time have not been a feature of 2022 and early 2023 for me.

  • @ASNS117Zero

    @ASNS117Zero

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU Don't burn yourself out my guy. Lack of sleep isn't healthy. xD

  • @Vyrlokar

    @Vyrlokar

    Жыл бұрын

    I have been religiously (and I'm an atheist) taking my weekly Perun from almost the start (started when he had like 3 videos on this conflict) and I can't think of a best way to spend an hour than to watch his content

  • @bandenere7774

    @bandenere7774

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU "dance for us little piggy" Ops, wrong channel😬

  • @honestlyreed1612
    @honestlyreed1612 Жыл бұрын

    "You cannot pay your teachers in armored personnel carriers, and even if you could, I'd recommend against it unless you want the next teacher's strike to be that much more interesting."

  • @suntiger745

    @suntiger745

    Жыл бұрын

    Gems like that combined with the background debrief and careful analysis is why I consider Perun one of the best lecturers I've ever come across. :)

  • @Slapdab

    @Slapdab

    Жыл бұрын

    I lost it with that line.

  • @mickdevries4237

    @mickdevries4237

    Жыл бұрын

    Tell me you've never been to Texas without telling me you've never been to Texas. :)

  • @keemanaan1734

    @keemanaan1734

    Жыл бұрын

    Some teachers may be thinking "yes please" 🙂

  • @1224chrisng

    @1224chrisng

    Жыл бұрын

    oh, it'll be a teacher's Strike alright

  • @haxney
    @haxney Жыл бұрын

    The WWII example of "the American M1 came under fire and soldiers fired back with M1s, M1s, and M1s" was absolute gold!

  • @TheKrakovv

    @TheKrakovv

    Жыл бұрын

    Classic stupid american bureocracy

  • @maestreiluminati87

    @maestreiluminati87

    Жыл бұрын

    Lieutenant M. Juan

  • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts

    @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts

    Жыл бұрын

    Sir, we're under attack! Use the M1! Understood, throwing helmets! Not that M1! Sorry sir, firing bayonets! Not that one either!

  • @reform-revolution

    @reform-revolution

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5tsthats pvt Patterson he just hasnt been right since that horse kick him six times in the head bless him

  • @logitimate

    @logitimate

    10 ай бұрын

    @@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts To be fair, "M1" is structurally a specifier for the specific model of a previously named class of equipment, e.g., "U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30, M1," "Tractor, Heavy, M1," or "37 mm gun, M1." In that context, it makes perfect sense, and if you abbreviate it by omitting details ("Use your rifle!") rather than by omitting generalities and keeping _only_ the details ("Use your M1!"), it's generally unambiguous.

  • @AG-pm3tc
    @AG-pm3tc Жыл бұрын

    Can we just take a second to appreciate the M1 bit 😂

  • @usergiodmsilva1983PT

    @usergiodmsilva1983PT

    Жыл бұрын

    21st century comedy gold.

  • @h8GW

    @h8GW

    Жыл бұрын

    Technically, 20th century, since that's when the joke worked best.

  • @petermello55

    @petermello55

    Жыл бұрын

    Very clear and straightforward

  • @MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen

    @MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@h8GW Or, in American military language, the M1 century.

  • @carkawalakhatulistiwa

    @carkawalakhatulistiwa

    Жыл бұрын

    M1, M1, M1 ,M1 ,M1 ,m1

  • @aenorist2431
    @aenorist2431 Жыл бұрын

    "Exploded vehicles are no longer very useful and should be replaced by unexploded ones." Pearls of wisdom like these are what we are really here for :D

  • @dennisyoung4631

    @dennisyoung4631

    Жыл бұрын

    You *might* pull some bits off of them.

  • @TB-zf7we

    @TB-zf7we

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely wise & HILARIOUSE. 😁

  • @shaider1982

    @shaider1982

    Жыл бұрын

    The bit about the items named M1 by the US Army is also funny. Good thing only the tanks is M1 these days.

  • @massgunner4152

    @massgunner4152

    Жыл бұрын

    How someone can be this serious while saying such cheeky lines?

  • @TheRezro

    @TheRezro

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shaider1982 BTW it technically did have sense. US mark every equipment as type: like Heavy Tank, military so M and number in line. So because lot of stuff were only reintroduced during WW2, they all get M1 what lead to hilarious situation that US have almost everything called M1. Abrams is somewhat exception as US reset counter on armed vehicles in the 80's.

  • @vishrutbansal2535
    @vishrutbansal2535 Жыл бұрын

    13:20 "As you can imagine, parts are seldom compatible between different M1s" I lost it xD

  • @CB-vt3mx

    @CB-vt3mx

    Жыл бұрын

    Having multiple items called "M1" or whatever is not really a problem in the US Army. We all know what is what and no one confuses M9 bayonets with M9 pistols. That said, the army has gotten much better about it in recent years.

  • @Edax_Royeaux

    @Edax_Royeaux

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CB-vt3mx I can see it confusing outsiders though. Lord knows the Japanese with all their Type 99s, Type 0s and Type 93s can get confusing.

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    Жыл бұрын

    US wished it had M1 Abrans back in the Civil War!

  • @HarryP457
    @HarryP457 Жыл бұрын

    There seems to some "law" on KZread that videos should be kept to 10-15mins long as that is the attention span of most users. Why is it then that so many people, myself included, seem perfectly happy to sit through hour long PowerPoints by some Aussie? IMHO, it's because they tick every box of being informative, engaging, includes accurate data, and most importantly, humorous. Thanks Perun for your continued delivery of such excellent content. I have yet to watch one of your videos without being educated further on some subject that I thought I was already pretty well informed about.

  • @XIXCentury

    @XIXCentury

    Жыл бұрын

    you're not special

  • @spinecho609

    @spinecho609

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the video essay ecosystem. Next, you will be watching a 5 hour video on The Witcher, whether you have played it or not.

  • @oldmankatan7383

    @oldmankatan7383

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd expect to find a correlation between the use of infinite scrollers of super short content like tiktoc and a preference for short videos... I'm guessing this level of detail is preferred by people who don't enjoy rapid dopamine conditioning.

  • @unixnut

    @unixnut

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm very glad of the "Continue watching" tab in the Subscriptions section.

  • @AsbestosMuffins

    @AsbestosMuffins

    Жыл бұрын

    YT demotes the recomendations for videos longer than 15-20 minutes

  • @peez9187
    @peez9187 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, thank you Perun. Today, I've been in surgery for 4 hours and I was awake the whole time. It was a very unpleasant and painful experience. I usually watch your videos right away, but I saved this one for my surgery date to help keep my mind occupied. Through the 4 hours, I listened to your videos back-to-back and as unpleasant as the surgery was, you got me through it. So I wholeheartedly wanted to thank you.

  • @sandwich5344

    @sandwich5344

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey peez, get well soon! Hope your recovery goes well buddy

  • @peez9187

    @peez9187

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sandwich5344 thank you man I really appreciate that. 🙏

  • @halebopp_a_cometh

    @halebopp_a_cometh

    Жыл бұрын

    This is one of the best comment section on the internet! Such a great group of people! Get better man! ❤

  • @Jartran72

    @Jartran72

    Жыл бұрын

    Oof that sounds rough, its really bad when you can't handle narcosis or they need you awake to tell them where it hurts. Sorry that happened to you. Get well soon!

  • @peez9187

    @peez9187

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jartran72 thank you for the kind words my friend. I'm on the road to recovery and feeling better each day. 🙏

  • @andrewreynolds4949
    @andrewreynolds4949 Жыл бұрын

    “Practice has a way of beating up theory and taking its lunch money.” Perun makes some of the best quotes

  • @goaway7346

    @goaway7346

    Жыл бұрын

    "In theory, that should have worked in practice. But in practice, it didn't." Applies to ever endeavour where humans are involved.

  • @Flippyrock2011

    @Flippyrock2011

    Жыл бұрын

    He is definitely up there with The Chieftain and Drackninifel

  • @ghoffmann821
    @ghoffmann821 Жыл бұрын

    "You cannot pay your teachers with armored personnel carriers." That, sir, sounds like a challenge.

  • @sjonnieplayfull5859

    @sjonnieplayfull5859

    Жыл бұрын

    If someone is willing to accept me as their teacher, I would be more than willing to accept APC'S as payment ...

  • @psilobom

    @psilobom

    Жыл бұрын

    I knew teachers who drove Ferraris, I'd be the teacher that rolls up in a bullet proof beast

  • @suntiger745

    @suntiger745

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sjonnieplayfull5859 How do you pay for the fuel on a teacher's salary though? Especially if you get the M-113 instead of money. XD

  • @sjonnieplayfull5859

    @sjonnieplayfull5859

    Жыл бұрын

    @@suntiger745 I just park on my favorite spot and put my sleeping bag on the floor, save on rent, spend that on fuel instead. Maybe trade three or four for an Abrams, or maybe even a Panther for nostalgia's sake

  • @hungrymusicwolf

    @hungrymusicwolf

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@psilobom Screw Ferarris, armoured vehicles is where the real street cred is.

  • @charliehansen6584
    @charliehansen6584 Жыл бұрын

    Your orange and black powerpoints are always of the highest quality. I look forward to your videos every week. I was a petroleum supply guy in the US Army and logistics is my bread and butter and that is one of the biggest reasons I enjoy the effort you put into these. Battles are won by tactics and bravery, wars are won by logistics and economics.

  • @Gwjeeper

    @Gwjeeper

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember reading somewhere that 'amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics'

  • @pattersonlee062

    @pattersonlee062

    Жыл бұрын

    Extremely impressive to the gullible.

  • @RussellNelson

    @RussellNelson

    Жыл бұрын

    "and economics". Yup. Hitler thought that he didn't need remote resources like rubber, because his scientists could synthesize these things. Trouble is that synthesis isn't cheap, and rubber comes (came) from trees because the trees were really cheap.

  • @h8GW

    @h8GW

    Жыл бұрын

    @Patterson Lee Says the side who continuously and repetitively hoovers up the reporting demonstrated to be the least reliable. Like legit I think most of your side's _arguments_ are stolen without even analyzing them.

  • @pattersonlee062

    @pattersonlee062

    Жыл бұрын

    @@h8GW more realistic than your imaginary view...

  • @jimwu4579
    @jimwu4579 Жыл бұрын

    1:03:43 "...American equipment is endowed with the magical ability to reconstitute itself after destruction and carry on the fight with a zombie crew." What a time to be alive.

  • @jerkchicken_expertlyseasoned

    @jerkchicken_expertlyseasoned

    Жыл бұрын

    It's all fun and games until the US military starts awarding contracts to the Necrons.

  • @apersonlikeanyother6895

    @apersonlikeanyother6895

    Жыл бұрын

    Next years 2 minute papers

  • @jfarrar19

    @jfarrar19

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean the US DoD is looking into other science fiction looking shit for the military. At this point we can just accept it.

  • @tgapmax4051

    @tgapmax4051

    Жыл бұрын

    Ukraine will win because Dr. Who is on their side.

  • @999Phiro

    @999Phiro

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean look it's just like CoD man. You press F to respawn if you're in an American vehicle and suddenly you're at full ammo and health. All that DARPA funding paid off.

  • @propagandalf577
    @propagandalf577 Жыл бұрын

    As a German I'm simply amazed that youmanaged to pronounce "Sonderkraftfahrzeug" almost correctly.

  • @bryce4724

    @bryce4724

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm struggling just to say that in my head 🤣

  • @sixstringedthing

    @sixstringedthing

    Жыл бұрын

    Is "almost correctly" good enough to stop people getting killed though? 😆

  • @brinjoness3386

    @brinjoness3386

    Жыл бұрын

    I bought an "einzelkockenplatten" once. Apologies for the spelling but I think I could pronounce it fairly well. I still own that single cooking plate. Zoup is gutten on it I was impressed with his pronunciation too.

  • @NN-eh1fq

    @NN-eh1fq

    Жыл бұрын

    Bruh, i’m ethnically German and I feel like I need a few shots at that before I do it correctly 😂

  • @gravitydefeater

    @gravitydefeater

    Жыл бұрын

    Was "yellow from an egg"?

  • @brianmacadam4793
    @brianmacadam4793 Жыл бұрын

    "the large part ain't modern and the modern part ain't large" very well said !

  • @suntiger745

    @suntiger745

    Жыл бұрын

    That tends to be the case with many militaries, though Russia tends to take it a lot further than most.

  • @paullakowski2509

    @paullakowski2509

    Жыл бұрын

    luv statement and got to remember it !!!!!!

  • @V-V1875-h

    @V-V1875-h

    Жыл бұрын

    @@suntiger745 a statement that can be valid for almost everything, specially institutions

  • @chrishooge3442
    @chrishooge3442 Жыл бұрын

    The Bradley compliments tanks when used in combined formations. During Desert Storm the optics on the Bradley were better and conducive to identifying targets for the Abrams in a open desert environment. They play a tank destroyer role with their ATGMs at ranges in excess of an MBT's main gun. The mounted infantry can be deployed to provide security or screen terrain while the Brads and Abrams provide overwatch. Bradleys can also be loaded up with supplies to sustain the infantry in the fight. Think ammo, water, rations, and Javelins. IFVs aren't tanks but they allow the infantry to keep up with the tanks and if a BMP or T-72 pops up they have the means to deal with the threat.

  • @D64nz

    @D64nz

    10 ай бұрын

    Well this comment certainly aged like milk.

  • @Bigman-fh1fz

    @Bigman-fh1fz

    10 ай бұрын

    @@D64nzhe didn’t say that Bradley’s are indestructible tho

  • @PhilGreeleyJR
    @PhilGreeleyJR Жыл бұрын

    I really hope that you are involved in teaching in some way. Your ability to transmit complex topics to the layman is a talent beyond compare. Thank you

  • @dennisynborg6004
    @dennisynborg6004 Жыл бұрын

    1:13 "It is not about the vournability of the system, but what it can do for you. " Cheftain put it very accuratly. "Do not ask what you can do to the tank. Instead ask what the tank can do to you." and "The infantry can be killed by practically everything on the battlefield, yet no one has yet stated that the infantryman is obsolete".

  • @iainbreen7835

    @iainbreen7835

    Жыл бұрын

    Vulnerability

  • @FirstDagger

    @FirstDagger

    Жыл бұрын

    vulnerability

  • @cat-.-

    @cat-.-

    Жыл бұрын

    volnearabiltiy

  • @mitchellg3893

    @mitchellg3893

    Жыл бұрын

    vernearbilty

  • @KirosanaPerkele

    @KirosanaPerkele

    Жыл бұрын

    Vulnus perforans

  • @senialgoat
    @senialgoat Жыл бұрын

    Usually I don't comment on videos; I feel I need to say that your videos are appreciated. I both thoroughly enjoyed the content and the presentation. I also appreciate that you seem to deliver the content with the concept of biases in mind and take that into account therein. There's a lot of people who would rather provide information with a heavy dose of either emotional or patriotic bias, whether aware or unaware of it. So I figured instead of being a silent observer I would throw my two cents in and let you know that I appreciate your content.

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    Жыл бұрын

    and I usually silently read comments but I'll break the practice here to say thank you, I'm trying my best.

  • @stevewhite3424

    @stevewhite3424

    Жыл бұрын

    Excellent points! It is hard to take as reliable a KZread channel talking about the war that has a giant Ukrainian flag as its background. While it is certainly possible and reasonable to believe the Ukrainians are on the right in this fight, If your bias is just so overwhelming that your information has to be taken with a grain of salt are you really anything other than propaganda?

  • @foobar3202

    @foobar3202

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@stevewhite3424 I would articulate it a bit differently. There is no debate IMO that the Russians war is immoral, unjust, unjustifiable, simply evil. It is not 'biased' to acknowledge that. But we can get carried away by the emotion of that and lose sight of reality. So it is very valuable to have someone like Perun present an objective, impartial view of the facts, and leave the morality of the situation for the viewer / other commentators.

  • @stevewhite3424

    @stevewhite3424

    Жыл бұрын

    @@foobar3202 I'm pretty sure that's what I said.

  • @foobar3202

    @foobar3202

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stevewhite3424 I got the impression you were implying that anyone who shows they strongly support Ukraine is too 'biased' to taken seriously, no matter what. That attitude bothered me. I guess I was just reading into something you didn't intend, sorry for that.

  • @mudcrab3420
    @mudcrab3420 Жыл бұрын

    M113 is state of the art WW2. The original FMC tech drawings date from 1950. Basically the entire design came from thinking about WW2 and deciding what would make the perfect APC. Fully tracked. Armoured roof. Ramp access so troops don't have to jump over the sides. Lot of my life on this vehicle :)

  • @jamielonsdale3018

    @jamielonsdale3018

    7 ай бұрын

    The M113 reminds me of a D-Day landing craft, made to go on land, through semi-Rasputitsa conditions, and be fragmentation-proof from all aspects while buttoned up.

  • @shaneconnor86
    @shaneconnor86 Жыл бұрын

    Yours is one of few truly outstanding channels on the Ukrainian liberation war. You combine scholarly research and objective analysis with clear, well paced delivery, to mention only the wavetops. Many thanks for your contribution to history.

  • @patternpaper4940
    @patternpaper4940 Жыл бұрын

    “The Russian army is a large modern army, but the large part aint modern and the modern part aint large” Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  • @randomdude2832

    @randomdude2832

    Жыл бұрын

    but underestimating both how large the modern part is, and how updated the large part is is very dangerous and why ukraine is losing despite all of nato's aid.

  • @justinrockholt7055

    @justinrockholt7055

    Жыл бұрын

    Bruh

  • @majormassenspektrometer

    @majormassenspektrometer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@randomdude2832 Dunno about Russia winning but they aren't stopping the war for now. I'm really curious about how this conflict will end.

  • @aaronleverton4221

    @aaronleverton4221

    Жыл бұрын

    @@randomdude2832 You think Ukraine or any of its suppliers underestimated the Russian Army? If anything, Russia's armed forces have been overestimated for years. If your neighbour is 100,000,000 people more than you and they not only can't take your capital but also lose half of their territorial gains half a year after invading you then you aren't losing.

  • @randomdude2832

    @randomdude2832

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aaronleverton4221 "You think Ukraine or any of its suppliers underestimated the Russian Army? yes, they underestimated them big time. "If your neighbour is 100,000,000 people more than you " does it matter the size of russia if they only used a fraction of their peace time army? and they took the entire yularanian army plus billions in weapons from nato until september. "and they not only can't take your capital " except they used 30k troops to take mariupol and only sent 40k for a muckh larger well defended city, russia never tried to take kyiv. did a propaganda outlet told you otherwise? "but also lose half of their territorial gains half a year after invading you then you aren't losing. " unless yuo just forgot how ukraine has not advanced anymore in two months and after russia's partial mobilization russia is advancing again. while ukraine is out of men and equipment after several waves of mobilization.

  • @andriifedoryshyn9987
    @andriifedoryshyn9987 Жыл бұрын

    As my friend, who is an active serviceman in Ukrainian military once said, there are two things to say about BMPs. The first: there is nothing more exhilarating and satisfying than an ATGM or RPG rocket narrowly missing your BMP, while you are sitting on top of it, the adrenaline goes through the roof and you're just screaming "YEAH, BASTARDS, LEARN TO AIM". The second: there is nothing worse than imagining being burned alive in one of those things after being hit, that thing comes up in his nightmares every single night.

  • @Kayfear

    @Kayfear

    Жыл бұрын

    There was a video recently on reddit where Ukrainian team collected remains of soldiers inside destroyed m113. Basically the body of a driver got obliterated into pieces of a golf ball size (parft of a chin with beard 3-5 cm is all I can identify as “human”) Terrifying.

  • @Nostripe361

    @Nostripe361

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kayfear modern weapons on a modern battlefield are terrifying. I have the utmost respect for those Ukrainians who experience it and are still willing to march out there to fight for their homeland

  • @Kayfear

    @Kayfear

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Nostripe361 can't imagine the horror when you driving in wheeled tincan to an enemy position, freezing to death in trenches near Bakhmut, or being shelled in civilian building in Dnepr. Something that should have never happened to those beautiful young, healthy, happy people of Ukraine.

  • @goatmealcookies7421

    @goatmealcookies7421

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🇺🇦

  • @johanj3674

    @johanj3674

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kayfear Like the refurbishment of tanks in WWii that had their crewed killed but the tank was usable. Imagine climbing down in a Sherman to scoop up and wash away body pieces in every nook and corner, hoping you don't miss any...

  • @mytech6779
    @mytech6779 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting take on the Bradley vs Abrams in desert storm. ( I assume an earlier version of Abrams) There was a similar juxtaposition between the A-10 and F-111 in desert storm. According to a post-war DOD analysis report, there were far fewer F-111s in theater yet they had far more armor kills than the A-10. The F-111 was near retirement and the A-10 was still only middle age. Part of the explanation was the weather in the first week was particularly bad and overcast, the F-111 being an all weather aircraft and having a superior IR sensor package. A-10 variants of that time were visual conditions only. Just after sunset the Iraqi tanks would emit a bunch of IR making them easy targets for guided bombs. (F-117 were used to hunt anti-aircraft systems making armor hunting more practical.)

  • @TJackson736

    @TJackson736

    Жыл бұрын

    The F-111 was simply the better aircraft. The A-10 is merely cheaper.

  • @nottoday4866

    @nottoday4866

    Жыл бұрын

    A number of Iraqi generals made a big deal out of their use of thermal decoys (Half buried metal sheets with a small fire underneath). I imagine that the burden of proof would be a lot lower for a indirect engagement compared to a visual system than the A-10 requires. Not to disregard your point about superior sensors on the later models of the F-111 though, that said a lot of the older models of the F-111 remained in service unmodernised for a surprisingly long period.

  • @dewakacang

    @dewakacang

    Жыл бұрын

    My homie Vark is wayyy underrated.

  • @Merugaf

    @Merugaf

    Жыл бұрын

    VARK VARK VARK VARK

  • @peterbaker8443

    @peterbaker8443

    Жыл бұрын

    Not to mention the c.b.u.s that they carried which covered much more ground than a 10s could

  • @stpancraschapel2136
    @stpancraschapel2136 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Perun, in answer to your remarks at the end, all your hard work is much appreciated. I’m an ex-journalist and, as I was listening to this show, it occurred to me (several times) not just that there was some extremely well-researched information but, more impressive, the sheer volume of it. I was also as impressed with the data and analysis you rejected, although I would have been interested in hearing some of the theories you refused to go into for want of verification. Thank you very much, I have another podcast to take the dog for a walk with.

  • @pieter-bashoogsteen2283
    @pieter-bashoogsteen2283 Жыл бұрын

    I just want to say that even though you’re obviously a busy man and notorious for constantly traveling, I find it admirable how you have been able to stick to a consistent uploading schedule so firmly.

  • @highjumpstudios2384

    @highjumpstudios2384

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder what the breaking point is where he just starts making shit up.

  • @mikaelm5367

    @mikaelm5367

    Жыл бұрын

    Some people have standards

  • @BlutoandCo

    @BlutoandCo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@highjumpstudios2384 he becomes a supporter of ruSSia?

  • @pieter-bashoogsteen2283

    @pieter-bashoogsteen2283

    Жыл бұрын

    @@highjumpstudios2384 I don’t expect Perun to start doing that.

  • @crhu319

    @crhu319

    Жыл бұрын

    @@highjumpstudios2384 he already omits critical facts so ..

  • @darnit1944
    @darnit1944 Жыл бұрын

    "The Russian military is large and modern. But the Large part is not modern and the modern part is not large." -Perun 2023

  • @Muljinn

    @Muljinn

    Жыл бұрын

    I was about to clear them…

  • @iamwepty8986
    @iamwepty8986 Жыл бұрын

    have you ever considered uploading these videos as podcasts on spotify and apple music? I think it would be a really good way to gain more viewership without much more work. i love listening to these when i’m at work or studying and i feel like uploading them on those platforms would be quite handy. fantastic video as always dude keep up the amazing work

  • @jdavis.fw303

    @jdavis.fw303

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally agree, I often listen when not able to watch the slides and its still about 85% as informative.

  • @dsdy1205

    @dsdy1205

    Жыл бұрын

    +1 for the Spotify suggestion, would also allow for hands-free listening which I'd wager is a large proportion of listening given the video length

  • @Klowner777

    @Klowner777

    Жыл бұрын

    I second this ! Putting your videos up on apple podcast would be great !

  • @evanfelch7689
    @evanfelch7689 Жыл бұрын

    The M-1's part is probably my favorite joke so far. 10/10 rolling with laughter

  • @SideKickStudios
    @SideKickStudios Жыл бұрын

    So in a nutshell, IFVs and APCs are basically like a seatbelt in a car - in the event of a crash, it's not a guarantee that you will walk away but it'll significantly improve your chances of survival.

  • @evulclown

    @evulclown

    Жыл бұрын

    An angry seatbelt with an autocannon.

  • @cooldudecs

    @cooldudecs

    Жыл бұрын

    And 6 boys in the back with big guns. Also a nice tank killer

  • @Bork_In_Volcanic
    @Bork_In_Volcanic Жыл бұрын

    M1 story was freaking gold! Such humour is the reason why I am subscribed to Perun since long time!

  • @Hamsteak
    @Hamsteak Жыл бұрын

    I was a RWS gunner in Afghanistan, and I can say that it does feel like a game sometimes in a weird way. So you always had yo remind yourself that this is real life. It's definitely safer than hanging out of the hatch

  • @christianstough6337
    @christianstough6337 Жыл бұрын

    Former mech infantry soldier here. The job of the mech infantry is not primarily to keep up; that is secondary, their main job is to keep infantry off of the tanks.They are a stiff arm that keeps dangerous elements at range so the tanks can knock them out. Infantry can be absolutely deadly to armor via both anti tank weapons and using a radio to call in artillery or air. When a tank gets to a position that does not have a clear view and therefor no idea of what is up ahead, the mech infantry can clear that area which will allow the armor to push on. Battlefields are not flat; they rise and fall. Mech infantry can clear those rises where the other side of that rise is unknown. When armor has to take a stationary position , which they often have to do, the mech infantry are able to keep infantry away from them.

  • @spikeypineapple552
    @spikeypineapple552 Жыл бұрын

    What do I love about these videos? Absolutely everything. I've never heard such details and well spoken analysis in between gold lines such as 'you can't pay your teachers in M113s'. Thankyou for keeping us all entertained and informed.

  • @mrsock3380

    @mrsock3380

    Жыл бұрын

    You might be able to pay them with a M1 of some sort.

  • @archimedes5635

    @archimedes5635

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mrsock3380 garands BARs Thompsons

  • @benjohnson1670

    @benjohnson1670

    Жыл бұрын

    I could be persuaded...

  • @rossmurray6849

    @rossmurray6849

    Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps British nurses and ambulance crews would be interested.

  • @asaunders1406

    @asaunders1406

    Жыл бұрын

    You are a gullible fool!

  • @Rob_F8F
    @Rob_F8F Жыл бұрын

    I love the Perun focuses on data analysis. This type of Ukraine coverage does not exist elsewhere on KZread or mass general media.

  • @j.r.7339

    @j.r.7339

    Жыл бұрын

    Covert Cabal?

  • @Rob_F8F

    @Rob_F8F

    Жыл бұрын

    @@j.r.7339 Another great channel!

  • @kzsposeidon3121

    @kzsposeidon3121

    Жыл бұрын

    Colonel Reissner from the Austrian army is quite good as well

  • @skywillfindyou

    @skywillfindyou

    Жыл бұрын

    Data form this is very corrupt and reliable.

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

    Жыл бұрын

    This is why the internet rules. You can have actual specialists talk about things rather than everything having everything need to go trough the small minds of journalists.

  • @davetrew367
    @davetrew367 Жыл бұрын

    With each new week I get more amazed and grateful that someone with such an astounding breadth and depth of insight should even be willing to share it all on KZread, let alone keep doing it with such brilliant professionalism. Thank you, Perun.

  • @dcleary
    @dcleary Жыл бұрын

    "The theory says this should be a very one-sided affair but once war breaks out and vehicles start catching fire left, right & center, well practise has a way of beating up theory and stealing its lunch money" - Perun 2023 (pure gold XD)

  • @sudoren7572
    @sudoren7572 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Perun, just wanted to let you know that even as far as here in the Philippines your analyses have caught the eye of certain active, and retired officers in our military, given how high quality they are c: They get shared around defense-oriented communities online Keep it up!

  • @jiggy6486

    @jiggy6486

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello kababayan! Where or what are these defense-oriented communities? I only am active in foreign communities, would be nice to see the local side of things.

  • @reynanlamsen2007

    @reynanlamsen2007

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jiggy6486 Non - credible defense, If I have to take a wild guess.

  • @jiggy6486

    @jiggy6486

    Жыл бұрын

    @@reynanlamsen2007 I already am a member since 2021, also NCD counts as a foreign community since we only ever show up there when someone doomposts about our military. I just want to see where these AFP officers post and if they have good takes lol

  • @TheGeeoff

    @TheGeeoff

    Жыл бұрын

    It's great to hear free democracies sharing information together!

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    Жыл бұрын

    The US should pay, trained and equip poor but motivated American and Filipino volunteers to fight for Ukraine!

  • @MrI3inford
    @MrI3inford Жыл бұрын

    If KZread would credit creators for value delivered rather than just minutes watched, you’d already be one of the richest channels ever. I have also enjoyed your appearances on other channels and interviews and would love to see more of that. Infotainment/Edutainment at its best. Thanks for continued service to your community.

  • @danwylie-sears1134
    @danwylie-sears1134 Жыл бұрын

    I think this is my favorite channel at the moment. Military analysis isn't my favorite subject, but having long well-researched videos more than makes up for that.

  • @brenthorn2475
    @brenthorn2475 Жыл бұрын

    At age 19, back in 1971, a few of us rode on top of an M113 on a reddish dirt road about 15 klicks east of Chu Lai SVietnam along the foothills. We had a couple wounded in the shell. F-4’s and saw-equipped Hueys kept NVA down while the 113’s extracted us.

  • @sqnhunter

    @sqnhunter

    Жыл бұрын

    Wait..... did you time travel??? How the hell did you get SAW equipped Huey`s? If you are talking M249 SAW...it didn't see service until 1986??? Huey`s in Vietnam usually were fitted with the M60D! But def no SAW! Every man that served in Vietnam knows they used M60`s.

  • @Strafprozessordnung

    @Strafprozessordnung

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sqnhunter maybe a daydream. Bc being in war is kewl yo

  • @sqnhunter

    @sqnhunter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Strafprozessordnung Yes...only kewl until you been there. Being there changes outlook!

  • @Strafprozessordnung

    @Strafprozessordnung

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sqnhunter never been myself, had enough seeing what it did to friends. And "living in action/the field" (trenching, living out of a backpack, literal german term translation), just fucking sucks. Fun, but only when talking about it afterwards. No where near as fun as the advertisements 😂

  • @sqnhunter

    @sqnhunter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Strafprozessordnung 32 year veteran myself, 15 years retired and living in Mexico now. I don't wish it on anyone myself. You cant live normally afterwards. I just like being alone now days. My kids and my grandkids should never know what war is, but if this war gets out of hand in Europe, I can see my hopes wasted with the reality of the conflict, along with the rest of the world. While I detest war, sometimes the only way for evil to succeed is for too few to do too little. 🤥

  • @ED-es2qv
    @ED-es2qv Жыл бұрын

    I was an airborne Ranger, which is very light infantry. I can assure you there are times I want armor to do a job, even though personally I was always most comfortable in my element (quietly in the woods, preferably dark). I noticed each MOS is most comfortable doing what they’re trained to do.

  • @ahennessy7998

    @ahennessy7998

    Жыл бұрын

    @DiversityIsOurStrength interestingly enough, about 30% of Afghanistan was forested in 2000

  • @ahennessy7998

    @ahennessy7998

    Жыл бұрын

    @DiversityIsOurStrength ok, good for you.

  • @goatmealcookies7421

    @goatmealcookies7421

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your service!

  • @markmitchell457

    @markmitchell457

    Жыл бұрын

    @DiversityIsOurStrength you should see photos of Afghanistan in the 60s. It was a fairly nice place. It's a tribal sh1t hole now.

  • @isaiahsmith6016

    @isaiahsmith6016

    Жыл бұрын

    What was it like being a Ranger?

  • @mivapusa
    @mivapusa Жыл бұрын

    The Bradley is a beast, less so for its firepower, and more for its extremely well-designed suit of sensors and comms letting it relay information to friendly forces and artillery. But having an overpowered chain gun is also nice

  • @funcounting

    @funcounting

    Жыл бұрын

    The flying version is the most terrifying.

  • @silentdrew7636

    @silentdrew7636

    Жыл бұрын

    Big gun go BRR

  • @thatonejackassfromru

    @thatonejackassfromru

    Жыл бұрын

    @@funcounting huh?

  • @murphy7801

    @murphy7801

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thatonejackassfromru watch a channel called laserpig he covered that

  • @murphy7801

    @murphy7801

    Жыл бұрын

    @@funcounting that was the m113 if your talking about Mike sparks 😂😂😂

  • @bradenwisely541
    @bradenwisely541 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the work you're putting into this! You're coverage of this event is unparalleled! Dont burn yourself out though. Don't let us get in the way of your life!

  • @jeremiah_dyess
    @jeremiah_dyess Жыл бұрын

    Perun is elite level support for the everyday infantryman. Thank You, Good Sir.

  • @TheVillageIdiotUk
    @TheVillageIdiotUk Жыл бұрын

    A masterpiece. You keep hitting the ball out of the park and into solar orbit. I honestly don’t know how you can cover so much ground each week and produce consistently brilliant content, but I’m glad you do and I’m a very impressed Patreon. My only concern is that you may burn yourself out at this pace. Take care, fella.

  • @olic7266

    @olic7266

    Жыл бұрын

    burning out is for p*****s

  • @ontheruntonowhere

    @ontheruntonowhere

    Жыл бұрын

    @diversityisourstrength4223 Says the internet guy who needs to chime in on every thread with unfunny, mean-spirited, obvious cries for attention. It's classy to say nice things and tell people you appreciate them.

  • @jonlee2217

    @jonlee2217

    Жыл бұрын

    @DiversityIsOurStrength You sounds jealous, do you need a hug?

  • @jonlee2217

    @jonlee2217

    Жыл бұрын

    @DiversityIsOurStrength aww, poor little Ivan, everybody hates him, he's going down the garden to eat worms.

  • @MrKronikDeception
    @MrKronikDeception Жыл бұрын

    "Open field storage during the 1990s... that's a high threat environment." But, dang, the tank periscope, BTR night vision system, and the BMP sights are a great addition to your collection

  • @irgendwieanders2121

    @irgendwieanders2121

    Жыл бұрын

    🤣

  • @ptonpc

    @ptonpc

    Жыл бұрын

    I did a quick check on Ebay a few days ago, you can still buy Russian IFV sights on it.

  • @Edax_Royeaux

    @Edax_Royeaux

    Жыл бұрын

    Well Communist doctrine did speak of redistribution of wealth.

  • @LuvBorderCollies

    @LuvBorderCollies

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Edax_Royeaux Marx was a devil worshiper so that pretty much explains why Communism has the pathetic and violent record it does and will continue to have. Want to know more? Newer book out called Marx and the Devil (close to those words) plus at least one interview on KZread with the researcher and author.

  • @Concord003

    @Concord003

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, the 1990s were high threat environment both in Russia and Ukraine. The tank repair factory here in Lviv was guarded so poorly that the neighbourhood boys sneaked into it on a dare on multiple occasions. Worst case they would meet a security guard with a shotgun loaded with salt instead of buckshot.

  • @davidtr90
    @davidtr90 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for an, as always, great video. Putting out videos of this quality in a frequency that high is just amazing. I would like to add just one small thing: Technically the german HS 30, armed with a 20mm autocannon in a rotating turret, which started development around 1955, was the first IFW. It was without doubt a terrible vehicle, which got replaced by the Spz Marder about ten years after introduction but it has all the key characteristics of an IFW.

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep - I regret not mentioning the poor thing which is why I gave it a callout in the pinned comment. Cheers for the kind words.

  • @davidtr90

    @davidtr90

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU i`m sorry, did not see it. As always reading helps.

  • @Itslvle
    @Itslvle Жыл бұрын

    I have no idea how you manage to have a normal worklife and still produce stuff like this so frequently. It is very much appreciated.

  • @rafis117
    @rafis117 Жыл бұрын

    "IFVs and APCs are getting destroyed *because* they work" is a would be a daring conclusion if it was backed up by anything less rigorous than a Perun analysis. I continue to appreciate your analyses, this channel has been phenomenally informative and a master class besides.

  • @TheLastSterling1304
    @TheLastSterling1304 Жыл бұрын

    Remember when people unironically thought the Bradley as "A troop transport that can't carry troops, a reconnaissance vehicle that's too conspicuous to do reconnaissance and a quasi-tank that has less armor than a snow-blower, but carries enough ammo to take out half of D.C"

  • @Edax_Royeaux

    @Edax_Royeaux

    Жыл бұрын

    Remember when people unironically thought the Russian army was a threat?

  • @TheRezro

    @TheRezro

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean that quote was a joke. Quite obviously IFV is neither of those. Burton was a idiot who demand tests for something army already know, because he couldn't understand role of new at the time IFV. Movie though place him as protagonist actually place hints pointing that he was wrong. Like when one of soldiers correct him regard procedure. That they test scale of damage with increasingly stronger charges, not if it survive obvious overkill. Or when he test Romanian RPG on doors, one of officers counter it with statement that those were strong doors (what is true. Ammo depo doors are usually heavily armored). Also no. Bradley didn't start as M113, it was always designed as counter to BMP. It is why commanding officer was triggered. Because program in fact did have overruns and they needed push in production something capable to counter it, even if they would correct known flaws later.

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    Жыл бұрын

    Allies wished they had Bradleys back in WW2!

  • @p_serdiuk

    @p_serdiuk

    Жыл бұрын

    Lazerpig gang

  • @TheLastSterling1304

    @TheLastSterling1304

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheRezrouh yeah that's my point. The problem is the average person watched that movie and didn't realize it was a satirical movie based on an untruthful memoir of Burton. I mean for how long did people think the Belton Cooper's book 'Death Traps' was a accuracy account to the quality of the Sherman Tank.

  • @WWFanatic0
    @WWFanatic0 Жыл бұрын

    I think a lot of people forget what a war between two mechanized armies on the same order of magnitude of strength looks like. Fortunately, most of us only have ODS in 91 as a frame of reference where coalition losses were minimal and the Iraqis got routed in a few days, where the US had more casualties due to disease and accidents than enemy fire. This war in many ways should be viewed more like the Iran-Iraq war than the Gulf War in 1991. It's not a perfect parallel, those armies especially the Iranians were a lot less mechanized, but both sides had large mech and air forces which took large losses, had to mobilize men by the hundreds of thousands to expand the military, went through periods of static trench warfare, and so on. It was a horrific, casualty intensive conflict and unfortunate so is Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Whenever I hear "X of Y have been destroyed. They must be useless" I have to wonder what people think happens in war. Nothing is invulnerable on the battlefield and never has been. Knights in full plate could still be killed. Forts and castles could be starved out or be breached by siege and taken by storm. They might be harder to crack open, but nothing is impervious to all attacks. Like remember all those battles in WWII where the attacker won but still lost hundreds of tanks and other vehicles? We didn't say they were useless because an AT gun could kill them 2km away. We asked how can we make them even better? I'd also like to remind those people that the squishy human made of meat and bones has been vulnerable to everything from rocks to spears to arrows to swords to bullets to high explosives. We still send in those squishy infantrymen and they are arguably the most vital element of an army.

  • @Momusinterra

    @Momusinterra

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Professor Obvious.

  • @tommybronze3451
    @tommybronze3451 Жыл бұрын

    22:50 - Dear Perun, there is an old engineering saying: "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, and in practice, there is"

  • @holgerfickenwirth478

    @holgerfickenwirth478

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Tommy, I am an "old"engineer, a german , and we also have a saying: theory is, when you know all and everything, but nothing works. Practice is, when all and everything works, but you dont know why. We have the perfect combination of theory and practice: nothing works, and nobody has an idea why not!

  • @pierreciholas9215
    @pierreciholas9215 Жыл бұрын

    I hope you realise that all those videos you make are better than most lectures and guest speakers. Thank you so much for your passion and hard work.

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah we can be sure that in the unlikely case Perun is out of a job he can easily make up for it by giving paid lectures

  • @zerofighter42
    @zerofighter42 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing stuff as usual. Also notable is the fact of 220K views in 9 hours out of 340k subscribers. The fact that 2/3 of your audience is watching these vids the moment they are released is testament to their quality.

  • @PaulA-bv1rt

    @PaulA-bv1rt

    Жыл бұрын

    Zerofighter42..21 hours and over 44,000 more views than subscribers. Amazing figures, shows how good this video is. Perun could become a sought after military lecturer.

  • @zakbaker6620

    @zakbaker6620

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PaulA-bv1rt if I was still in the US Army, I'd be assigning these videos as required viewing for my soldiers, and assigning weekly optional short essays responses (500 words or so, nothing crazy) these videos would be wonderful assets for STT.

  • @thalapeng

    @thalapeng

    Жыл бұрын

    For the last three months I am actively planning my Sunday to include one hour of chores, solo walks or solo rides.

  • @PaulA-bv1rt

    @PaulA-bv1rt

    Жыл бұрын

    Zak, very true. The research level is top shelf with the tools at hand. The content is as detailed as could be done by a person with no military inside assistance. Educational for all and would make very good military reading for all countries armed forces .

  • @JFred2

    @JFred2

    Жыл бұрын

    Except in reality, 75% of those views are from people that aren't even subscribed. He's one of the few creators that never asks people to like and subscribe. While annoying, the reason people do that is because it works. Then again I'm also pretty sure Perun doesn't even monetize these videos so the guy clearly isn't motivated by money or overtly trying to grow his audience

  • @jadenburrell8253
    @jadenburrell8253 Жыл бұрын

    Always happy to get my Perun fix! Thanks so much for making these! Very helpful to hear someone who's not afraid to say they don't know everything and is still willing to go through the weeds and make some kind of picture from the chaos

  • @kennethferland5579
    @kennethferland5579 Жыл бұрын

    Leopard 2 + Bradly combined arms units looks like the way forward for Ukraine to make offensive forces and should technologically overmatch just about anything Russia can field. Weather and terrain conditions as well as the time to deliver and train means were unlikly to see such a combo used untill summer.

  • @bluemarlin8138

    @bluemarlin8138

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Supposedly the Leopard II A4s being sent are 1980s vintage and the countries that are sending them don’t have the modern 120mm rounds that will penetrate newer tanks. BUT....that’s still the same 120mm gun on the Abrams. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some newer US 120mm rounds show up. Even the early 90s vintage US DU rounds are perfectly adequate for anything but a frontal shot on the latest T-90 variant (which are very few in number) or a T-14 (which are basically nonexistent). The newer US rounds will penetrate anything out there. Not sure if the Leopard IIs being sent have the spaced armor or just the base protection system, but either way, it’ll still be better than most of the opposition, especially if Ukraine slaps some ERA on there. The Bradley is a beast too. That 25mm can kill anything that’s not a tank, and the TOW missiles can definitely take out tanks.

  • @primarchvulkan5097

    @primarchvulkan5097

    Жыл бұрын

    @BlueMarlin81 T14s aren't even in active russian service yet, they are nonexistent as they are only on paper after the 2014 sections apparently Russia couldn't figure out how to build them (or get them through testing/trials). I would not the 25mm on the Bradley had multiple confirmed kills on T72s, russia has been seen using base standard t72s which it could kill ans even t62s which it could easily kill. With many russian tanks applicae armor being shown to be rubber I'm fairly certain any 120 would have next to no issue penning russian tanks.

  • @D64nz

    @D64nz

    10 ай бұрын

    Well this comment certantly aged like milk. They got the Leopard and Bradley combo and they lost them in record numbers as soon as they arrived at the frontline. For now the T-90 dominates the battlefield with a single tank with drone support killing an entrie AFU armoured push in minutes. That's a story that is being repeated all over the battlefield when they are insane enough to go out in the day, while the KA-52s have a turkey shot at night taking out tanks from now 15km away, without the tanks even knowing they have been spotted and engaged.

  • @D64nz

    @D64nz

    10 ай бұрын

    @@primarchvulkan5097 I'm not sure where you read that,but you need to update your sources. Bradleys have no chance against most modern MBT's unless they can ambush them from the side or behind.

  • @davidbonn8740
    @davidbonn8740 Жыл бұрын

    The numbers on Russian command vehicle losses are really remarkable. Given that those vehicles are generally used at the battalion level and higher, there generally won't be that many of them out there. Those numbers probably represent an extremely high percentage of the ones that would have been deployed in Ukraine. Also commanding officers, often quite senior, ride around in those vehicles. So it is an interesting question how many of them (senior Russian officers) are still in the fight.

  • @rasek240

    @rasek240

    Жыл бұрын

    Oryx - super

  • @TheRezro

    @TheRezro

    Жыл бұрын

    It is because those tend to be mounted by officers. And so are both high priority target and because negative morale were commonly in the danger zone trying rely other units to assault. Lesson. Having distinct command vehicles is ridiculous.

  • @thomasgade226

    @thomasgade226

    Жыл бұрын

    A command vehicle may be easier to detect from space, as they likely transmit different radio patterns compared to a grunt APC .

  • @Matt_The_Hugenot

    @Matt_The_Hugenot

    Жыл бұрын

    It demonstrates excellence in targeting by UAF, from identification, through tasking, to execution.

  • @TreyWait

    @TreyWait

    Жыл бұрын

    Those vehicles shouldn't be in danger, they should be safely behind a screen considering how important they are. Which make the loss numbers even more mind blowing and points at severe improper tactical use.

  • @ScienceChap
    @ScienceChap Жыл бұрын

    The British Army did play with an APC in WW1. It was the MK IX tank, built to carry Infantry across no man's land in support of the tanks. They only built 34 of them before the war ended.

  • @1ukjunglednbraver

    @1ukjunglednbraver

    Жыл бұрын

    seen one yesterday in the tank museum in bovingdon. what a amazing place the T72 looks like a baby tank next to a Challenger 2. what a cool place just wish it had a bit more information or how the armor works not like top secrets but the basics of composite armor.spaced or explaining in depth shaped charges and explosive reactive armor or non explosive reactive armor. it was very cool to see all the tanks though.

  • @josiahstreetman8806

    @josiahstreetman8806

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you mean the Land Raider, lol

  • @samuellove9619

    @samuellove9619

    Жыл бұрын

    @@josiahstreetman8806 reverse land raider

  • @Edax_Royeaux

    @Edax_Royeaux

    Жыл бұрын

    I can see why they gave up. Tanks were so unreliable back then that at the Battle of Amiens (1918) that finally broke the German Lines wide open, out of the 500 battle ready tanks that took part, only 6 tanks were still battle ready by day 4. The infantry was suppose to complete phase 3 with infantry-carrying Mark V tanks but in the end they choose to not even bother. They had to continue the Hundred Days Offensive with armored car battalions and cavalry divisions in place of the tanks.

  • @LuvBorderCollies

    @LuvBorderCollies

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting. It makes sense. I hadn't heard of it but haven't invested tons of time studying WW1 outside of late US Army involvement. Namely the US 37th Division 135th MG Battalion from August - Nov 11th 1918. Thanks for the info and education. 👍

  • @carcharhinus_555
    @carcharhinus_555 Жыл бұрын

    It's simple: the growth of the channel is because of very well researched videos which deliver in-depth information which is truly hard to come by (because it's hard to research and put together). Certainly want to thank you at least as much for your continued strive of providing your audience a more accurate and complet view. It's so much appreciated.

  • @WWFanatic0
    @WWFanatic0 Жыл бұрын

    Also something of note for the Bradley in 1991. While yes it did do quite well we forget that Iraq's armor force was pretty old. According to IISS MB in 1990, only 1000 of their 5530 tanks were T-72s. The remaining 4500 were basically equally split between T-62s, T-55s, and Chinese Typy 59/69 tanks. Russia is pulling out a lot of old hardware, but they're not at the stage of making nearly a third of their tank fleet T-55s...

  • @robertsneddon731

    @robertsneddon731

    Жыл бұрын

    An ATGM of the type the Bradley carries will seriously damage any modern tank, at least a mission kill which is all that is really needed in a fight i.e stopping the other guys from shooting back at you. A T90M with its gunsight obliterated or having a track blown off is not a functional piece of kit any more. Flipping the turret of a T-72 is spectacular but it's still only a mission kill in reality.

  • @WWFanatic0

    @WWFanatic0

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertsneddon731 For sure the Bradley is still a very deadly IFV, particularly to Soviet designs from the 80s to early 90s. My point was that while Russia is pulling out old kit, if an ODS era Bradley goes to Ukraine its typical targets will be much better protected. I've not been able to verify them, but I've heard accounts of Bradleys defeating tanks in ODS with just the autocannon. A T-55's top armor was vulnerable to autocannon fire (hence the idea of the A-10s gun). Even an old T-72 wouldn't have such vulnerabilty though. Basically the Bradley was fighting mostly tanks and IFVs that were a decade or two older than it in 1991. In Ukraine they'll likely go up against targets of similar era (assuming they're getting old models) and in some cases newer vintage. It's still a highly capable vehicle, but it won't be nearly as easy a fight and unlikely to be a stomp like 1991 was.

  • @charlesc.9012

    @charlesc.9012

    9 ай бұрын

    The t-55 was less than 40 years old at that point and still a viable machine, the most common NATO main gun was still between 90 and 105mm. The t-72 fleet is now about 50 years old, and a t-72A in 2023 is less effective than a t-55 back in 1991

  • @PKownzthem
    @PKownzthem Жыл бұрын

    After having watched these videos every week since the beginning of the conflict I feel like I can judge statements by politicians or „experts“ about it with a confidence I otherwise only have in my own degree, it‘s crazy. The content is highly educational while still being very entertaining somehow, even though it’s just a slideshow I‘m even thinking about if it would make sense to get into the whole thing myself one day (I‘m a trainee lawyer in germany) since it‘s super interesting Thank you so much for your work!

  • @LD-Orbs

    @LD-Orbs

    Жыл бұрын

    "Just a slideshow" that pushes your military IQ up a point every time you watch it. Two points if you starting from a civilian ground zero baseline, like I am. These things are GOLD. Watch them all, watch them multiple times.

  • @foxwithaplan858

    @foxwithaplan858

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel the same. Welcome to this beautiful Dunning-Kruger-Valley ;)

  • @zeeninetynine

    @zeeninetynine

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed, watching all of Perun's videos has been like taking a mini-course :)

  • @MrWonszBoa

    @MrWonszBoa

    Жыл бұрын

    get into what yourself? making KZread videos?

  • @PKownzthem

    @PKownzthem

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrWonszBoa defense industry or administration as a career

  • @chaosXP3RT
    @chaosXP3RT Жыл бұрын

    13:57 Brilliant! As an American I couldn't help but laugh out loud! That's why we also have nicknames for everything!

  • @idioluh5838

    @idioluh5838

    Жыл бұрын

    Everyone has a nickname for everything. But at least others can choose not to have them if they want :D .

  • @FirstDagger

    @FirstDagger

    Жыл бұрын

    They aren't really nicknames, more so official names.

  • @mrsock3380

    @mrsock3380

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FirstDagger a good example of the is the Thunderbolt 2, official name that I had to look up to see if my memory serves me correctly.

  • @troyhadge8300
    @troyhadge8300 Жыл бұрын

    Man you have a gift for presenting information, it probably helps that I'm interested in what's being presented but the way you tie it all together so seamlessly is awesome

  • @Geotpf
    @Geotpf Жыл бұрын

    Personally, I am of the opinion that a prolonged conflict serves nobody's best interests, so the US should just give Ukraine something like 1,000 Bradleys and 500 Abrams (or maybe even more) and just end it already. We have much more than that gathering dust in the desert, and I think the percentage that are serviceable in our desert boneyards is going to be a lot higher than Russia's in their boneyards in wet and cold environments, not to mention corruption and lack of maintenance on the Russian side. Yeah, yeah there are maintenance and logistical and training issues, but those could be overcome if there was political will to do so.

  • @awf6554

    @awf6554

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe not the Abrams', but certainly the Bradleys.

  • @pieter-bashoogsteen2283
    @pieter-bashoogsteen2283 Жыл бұрын

    The video of that medevac in that m113 ambulance in Soledar was absolutely heartstopping. You even saw an artillery shell land just 20-30 metres away from the armored vehicle near the end.

  • @earld1403

    @earld1403

    Жыл бұрын

    In this video, the time mark is @ 48:13 Also the original video is here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d3eClpegqM2WZaw.html

  • @pieter-bashoogsteen2283

    @pieter-bashoogsteen2283

    Жыл бұрын

    @@earld1403 Thanks, I prefer watching it on KZread, allows me to save it

  • @user-vt2cr8qd1b

    @user-vt2cr8qd1b

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah good thing they were in an armored vehicle. They possibly caught shrapnel from that

  • @bluemarlin8138

    @bluemarlin8138

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-vt2cr8qd1b Most likely they would have had at least a couple of shrapnel injuries. What people don’t seem to get about IFVs is that they’re not there to make soldiers invulnerable. They exist mainly to transport troops at high speed while keeping them safe from small arms fire and shrapnel from artillery (or whatever else) exploding nearby, and some of them can take out enemy positions/vehicles or suppress enemy fire. Sure, they’ll get destroyed sometimes. But you know what else will get destroyed? Soldiers charging at enemy positions under machine gun and artillery fire.

  • @Ergzay

    @Ergzay

    Жыл бұрын

    @@earld1403 That's not the original video, just some re-upload with someone's music they put on top. The audio was replaced.

  • @Elkarlo77
    @Elkarlo77 Жыл бұрын

    For the M113, there might be a Variant Ukraine might want. The Mortar APC M106. It started with a 107mm and 81mm Mortar variant but was upgraded to a 120mm Variant. It isn't a Battle Taxi anymore but share the same Parts as a M113. so having 2000 M113 and 100 M106 would be a great mobility bonus, even when the M113 is slow. And as a German: We got 350 Marder on the Scrapyard, waiting for scrapping. They need to be refurbished, but they can be putt back into combat condition. But it will take time. That are the Marders when German Politicians say: They come from the Industrie, they are practically already sold off and waiting for their refurbished Shipment to Greece or to be scrapped. This year 100 Marders were be slated to go to Greece.

  • @DS.J

    @DS.J

    Жыл бұрын

    Lithuania supplied 10 self-propelled Tampella 120mm mortars on M113 chassis. There is a video somewhere of one of them being used in the battlefield.

  • @matstick199

    @matstick199

    Жыл бұрын

    My ukranian friend said they wanted m163 VADS to use as IFVs

  • @scifidude184

    @scifidude184

    Жыл бұрын

    When the whole "Spare Marders" article came out, people fail to mention a majority of those Marders were scrapped in 2014, it is a miracle Germany even had spare marders to send.

  • @Nimmermaer

    @Nimmermaer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DS.J As the name Panzermörser suggests, these were originally given to Lithuania by Germany, along with 300 M113s in total. For a token amount, if I remember correctly.

  • @miketogwell1000

    @miketogwell1000

    Жыл бұрын

    Would have thought lots of the m113 variants would be welcome - especially mortar carriers and AAA, but even the basic ones have some use outside cimbat

  • @oscarcharliezulu
    @oscarcharliezulu Жыл бұрын

    I thought this would be boring but instead I was riveted the whole way thru. Great work mate. Really brilliant.

  • @lorax8172
    @lorax8172 Жыл бұрын

    As a US teacher, I wouldn't mind an armored vehicle

  • @External2737

    @External2737

    Жыл бұрын

    It would change strike negotiations...

  • @lance2465
    @lance2465 Жыл бұрын

    Perun if you need to reduce your video output to twice a month instead of every weekend your fans can understand why you might reduce video output. You put so much research and information into your videos that it could be taxing working a job on top making amazingly detailed and researched KZread videos. Keep well Perun you are one of a kind.

  • @kennethng8346

    @kennethng8346

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally agree, if you need to take more time to develop those zingers, DO IT, ITS WORTH IT. "exploded vehicles should be replaced" and "the next teacher's strike to be that much more interesting" 🙂. I'd much rather have fewer masterpieces than a lot of "ok" material.

  • @stephenbernard3003

    @stephenbernard3003

    Жыл бұрын

    I can’t help but feel this research is at least part of his day job. If it wasn’t then I’d wonder if he was a cyborg…

  • @mcwarrington
    @mcwarrington Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff, as usual! Please keep it up. Very interesting analysis of the capabilities of the Bradley fighting vehicle. And lovely snarky humour that always brings us back. Best wishes from New Zealand!

  • @ShadowDragon1848
    @ShadowDragon1848 Жыл бұрын

    The M1 section was pure gold!

  • @ericdano
    @ericdano Жыл бұрын

    Private Conscriptovich is one of the luckiest guys. He's everywhere, and hasn't been injured or killed yet.

  • @sachinaraszkiewicz785

    @sachinaraszkiewicz785

    Жыл бұрын

    That's only because Perun has yet to make a video on MedEvac and field medical procedures!

  • @jozefkozon4520

    @jozefkozon4520

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sachinaraszkiewicz785 that was METAL.

  • @idioluh5838
    @idioluh5838 Жыл бұрын

    AFU requests a lot of APC/IFV not so much because they need to recover from losses, but mainly because AFU expanded about 3x times since the start of the war.

  • @V-V1875-h

    @V-V1875-h

    Жыл бұрын

    kinda what he stated, was visible in the generals graphs too. it's a combination of both but mostly the expansion

  • @idioluh5838

    @idioluh5838

    Жыл бұрын

    @@V-V1875-h yeah, that's true. It's just my awful habit of writing a comment before watching the full video :D .

  • @nihluxler1890

    @nihluxler1890

    Жыл бұрын

    No. Those are to recover from losses. Zaluzhny himself plainly stated in an interview a few weeks ago that to conduct a successful offensive toward Melitopol and eventually cut the land bridge would require of the west to provide AT LEAST 300 additional tanks, 700 IFVs/APCs and 500 artillery pieces (with all the corresponding ammo). If the Ukrainian ground forces really had ballooned to 3x their original size of around 3000 armored vehicles (all categories comprised), they should by far have that capability already. Instead, they are asking for brand new vehicles their crew will never be as potent with, in the current conditions, as the ones they were initially trained on, and will require a complete rebuilding of their logistical infrastructure. Go figure.

  • @georgethompson913

    @georgethompson913

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nihluxler1890 actually, just because you raised 700 000 soldiers doesn't mean you have the BMP',s to support them. More IFV, 's from afar means more TDF given offensive capabilities.

  • @idioluh5838

    @idioluh5838

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nihluxler1890 I meant they increased 3x original size in manpower, not hardware. And that's exactly why this hardware is needed, because while you can defend a trench without IFV, it's really hard to start an assault.

  • @mikes1689
    @mikes1689 Жыл бұрын

    As a former sgt in us army during the 80’s, I thought the bit about the M1, M1, M1 etc was hilarious! I had to rewatch multiple times.

  • @p.l.5860
    @p.l.5860 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing details. Ty. Love the long format. I listen to your videos over and over.

  • @Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
    @Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo Жыл бұрын

    8:35 The IFV is not only supporting the infantry, it's also the other way around, for example in obscured terrain, then the infantry leads. In mobile warfare both components are one system, they are supposed to move and fight together.

  • @Knight_Kin

    @Knight_Kin

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed, the mechanized infantry doctrine.

  • @macmcleod1188

    @macmcleod1188

    Жыл бұрын

    Which requires a lot of training.

  • @samikun9328
    @samikun9328 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for providing us with the best most informative videos on the conflict available on KZread. Your work is much appreciated!

  • @asaunders1406

    @asaunders1406

    Жыл бұрын

    There is one born every minute. Barnum would have loved you.

  • @IamOutOfNames

    @IamOutOfNames

    Жыл бұрын

    @@asaunders1406 You should know...

  • @donalddalley7274
    @donalddalley7274 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I really do appreciate the effort that you put into making these videos. Thank you!

  • @happysalesguy
    @happysalesguy Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic! Thank you for this excellent, objective, and very timely analysis. All the best to you in the new year.

  • @MultiAwsumDude
    @MultiAwsumDude Жыл бұрын

    The return of private conscriptovich and sergeant bicepski!

  • @richardthomas598
    @richardthomas598 Жыл бұрын

    I've never heard an Aussie wrap his mouth around German so well 👍

  • @badluck5647

    @badluck5647

    Жыл бұрын

    There has to be a better way to phrase this!

  • @MrStringybark

    @MrStringybark

    Жыл бұрын

    My younger sister did German up until 3rd Year but the only people that could understand her "German" were the other Australian students who learnt German with her.

  • @MotionMcAnixx

    @MotionMcAnixx

    Жыл бұрын

    My sister and her boyfriend Gunther would say otherwise...

  • @richardthomas598

    @richardthomas598

    Жыл бұрын

    @@badluck5647 I didn't write "a German." 😅

  • @badluck5647

    @badluck5647

    Жыл бұрын

    @@richardthomas598 When I first read this, I thought you were a Russian troll referring to....something else.

  • @kpkjolso
    @kpkjolso Жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for yet another great video!👌 As usual very interesting, l don’t know how you do it, but it must have been lot of work to find all the information. Anyway, we’re all sitting left with a lot more knowledge than we were before your video(s). Appreciate it a lot and looking forward to the next one!!😊👍

  • @jboquiren1
    @jboquiren1 Жыл бұрын

    Perun has that rare element of 'Je ne sais quoi'. It is the ephemeral un-nameable quality to his commentaries that makes for a riveting watch and makes a dry factual presentation both memorable and hits the right emotional beats.

  • @gregorstamejcic2355
    @gregorstamejcic2355 Жыл бұрын

    Hell, Perun, I'm so happy for you. I joined your channel about 2 years ago for Dominions 5 - and now this! Truly, heartfelt grats, you're one of the most nuanced people swimming above the sludge that is internet content.

  • @GameLeaderR
    @GameLeaderR Жыл бұрын

    The M1 skit (13:20) was hilarious lol. Thanks for such a interesting and informative video.

  • @danielfrisk925
    @danielfrisk9258 ай бұрын

    Enough IFV's also serve as a great tool to move troops, and move them fast to where they are needed which reduces fatigue and other health related issues due to marching. It increases morale, initiative aswell when troops know they can take cover inside their IFV, which also increases survivability of wounded troops due to the speed, mobility and ability to carry heavy weight out of the battlefield.

  • @bazbuco
    @bazbuco Жыл бұрын

    As an American this video hurt my M1’s feelings and I demand an M1 in recompense or I’ll be forced to take the M1 into my own hands.

  • @mousseman8239
    @mousseman8239 Жыл бұрын

    36:58 Keep in mind that capturing vehicles could also be in order to procure spare parts to keep other vehicles operational.

  • @brianjonker510

    @brianjonker510

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly. It would seem to me a very low percentage of captured tanks and APC would be returned to use by the Ukrainians.

  • @V-V1875-h

    @V-V1875-h

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brianjonker510 depending on the needs, I have heard that the most modern stuff is used until it breaks down and then stripped for parts, if it survives as long

  • @MarcosElMalo2

    @MarcosElMalo2

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, but if they’re used for spares, then they shouldn’t be counted as returned to service.

  • @wilfdarr

    @wilfdarr

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't count on the Russians continued generosity: at some point they have got to figure out that they need to destroy their equipment before they abandon it.

  • @OptimusSledge

    @OptimusSledge

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wilfdarr Good luck convincing conscripts with two weeks training that they need to stop and disable their vehicle before legging it. Hell, good luck getting them to remember what they need to do, let alone to actually do it.

  • @garthmckeil9539
    @garthmckeil9539 Жыл бұрын

    Based on initial analysis, I estimate that were an average of 1.38 humorous quips or pithy comments per slide in this presentation. I look forward to you reviewing and posting your pithiness findings on the Perun Humourdex with appropriate tables and spreadsheets with sidebars. A very informative and entertaining presentation.. thank you.

  • @Bitchslapper316
    @Bitchslapper316 Жыл бұрын

    These are well made breakdowns. We can clearly see the time and effort you put in to researching the topic and making the video.

  • @terrybuckley9095
    @terrybuckley9095 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you I watch them all with fascination

  • @ragnargustafsson6637
    @ragnargustafsson6637 Жыл бұрын

    This channel grows quickly because the consistently high quality of the content. Thank you for yet another top quality episode.

  • @sixstringedthing
    @sixstringedthing Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sticking to your release schedule like clockwork mate. Highly professional as always. Cheers 👍

  • @sarakajira
    @sarakajira Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. As always I appreciate what you do.

  • @alexbuckenham1663
    @alexbuckenham1663 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Perun, quality work as always. We do appreciate it.

  • @Metalhead_69
    @Metalhead_69 Жыл бұрын

    I think I already developed Pavlov dog's reflexes, every Sunday I expect a Perun video. Thank your for posting them, Perun!

  • @rudolfthecat1176
    @rudolfthecat1176 Жыл бұрын

    Germany actually had an ifv of sorts before the soviets did, it was called "Schützenpanzer lang", but it wasn't very successful due to its very many mechanical issues.

  • @zhufortheimpaler4041

    @zhufortheimpaler4041

    Жыл бұрын

    HS-30 Schützenpanzer Lang, but also Schützenpanzer Kurz (Hotchkiss). Both entered service 2-3 years ahead of the BMP-1

  • @termitreter6545

    @termitreter6545

    Жыл бұрын

    Was about to write that, Germany had Panzergrenadiers in WW2, and afterwards it wanted to expand on the IFV-concepts.The Lang was a pretty terrible vehicles by most accords due to production and deasign issues, so hardly anyone remembers it, but it was the first^^

  • @paullakowski2509

    @paullakowski2509

    Жыл бұрын

    @@termitreter6545 i thought reliability was due construction being SWISS/BRITISH industry??

  • @MrFusselig

    @MrFusselig

    Жыл бұрын

    Even the development of the Marder started before the BMP-1 and there were prototypes before the Soviets even thought about the BMP. The BMP was an answer to the HS-30.

  • @tyranneous
    @tyranneous Жыл бұрын

    Not seen a lot of comments on it, but I for one absolutely appreciate the American M1 section. I actually laughed out loud and people looked at me funny.

  • @CaptScrotes
    @CaptScrotes Жыл бұрын

    Very much appreciated my friend! While I understand (to some degree) the discrepancies between ones own analysis of data and another's, I feel significantly more informed after watching your videos than before and your view to consider these things from both sides adds so much value!

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