Another great video guys , entertaining and factual. You are becoming one of my favourite KZread channels .

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

Thanks Alan! Lovely to hear!

Very nice, this is what the new defender was supposed to be like. I've heard of build quality issues, but every land rover has them too! Cracking lads

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

There were a few issues at the start of production, as the product was completely new, but all the vehicles we've driven have been well sorted. We were mightily impressed with the car and in terms of off-road prowess it's fantastic! (Video on that coming soon!)

I have had mine since April and love everything about it, have taken it hard off roading and it performed brilliantly. It gets a huge amount of attention when I’m in Mayfair too….on road off road and the Brompton Road😂…I have the Trialmaster edition.

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

Glad to hear you’re enjoying yours. Thanks for watching!

Thanks Guys - that was probably the review most reflective of Grandier ownership that I have seen (I've owned mine since early May). The Grenadier not perfect in every single way, but then show me a car that is. It is very good where it matters and some of the hysteria created by some reviewers is just laughable.

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

Nice to finally hear of an owner of a car who can admit that no car is perfect! Glad you enjoyed the video, and we hope you're also loving your Grenadier 😁

I can definitely see the aftermarket manufacturers having fun with modding out this vehicle Especially the trunk space a good platform slide out 60:40 split to pull out just for the small door with tie downs would be brilliant

@BuckleUpShow

6 ай бұрын

We’re sure there’ll be an abundance in the near future

Those switches are setup like a plane. I like it.

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

Very Top Gun

I love that blue paint - gives me trying to be a G wagon

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

The blue paint is indeed an excellent colour!

That left foot bump in the (right hand) drivers position is a deal breaker!

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

The three of us range from hobbit to giant and none of us have ever had any issue with it while driving. Have you driven one or have you just seen people complain about it?

@gregorypenetrante1272

7 ай бұрын

Hi thanks for replying. We were reservation holders and got to evaluate the Grenadier during their field demos earlier this year. Could not get around that bump. Sadly :-(

Some good points re rear doors etc other reviews missed or not adequately considered. The Ineos big miss was the fact you cannot fold rear seat flat to create 6ft+ space for sleeping/overlanding, convenient load carrying.

@BuckleUpShow

6 ай бұрын

You can buy a version without rear seats though

Exactly right on the steering. It’s precise but a little slow. If you don’t know what you’re doing, you probably turn the wheel more than necessary because it hasn’t responded as soon as you are used to from rack and pinion cars. It follows that this then leads to see sawing back and forth and the resulting criticisms. I guess the concerning thing is that so many other “reviewers” don’t know what they’re doing…

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

It’s a non issue as far as we’re concerned

The other point about the price is that, like you pointed out, the vehicle is built to last. So yes, that does mean if you bought one now you would recoup that value over it's lifespan but it also means they're potentially going to be really interesting purchases on the second-hand car market in a few years. How much will they depreciate? How much longer will a second-hand Grenadier keep going compared to other second-hand vehicles? You may find you're able to pick a good example of one up second-hand for a decent price and it will still have years of life left in it

@BuckleUpShow

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Mad impressive vehicle … it’s purpose built and checked most boxes … who knows in time they may add more gimmicks and features that ( Landrover , and others luxury brands have ) or even tech bits like 360 cam , self driving , self parking … ect Can’t wait to see wats next with this new company

@BuckleUpShow

6 ай бұрын

And there’ll be electric and Hydrogen versions coming at some point

New 3/4 ton Silverado in the US is around $100k but you'd be hesitant to take it on any challenging off road trails. This one comes in around $90k well spec'd. Tempting. Refurb Defenders here can fetch $200k.

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

This is MUCH more capable than the previous generation of Defender, and it's not an ergonomic nightmare to drive. You'd definitely be able to get further off road in the Grenadier than a massive Solvero, too, as the size/weight is in its favour.

I've never heard of this nor seen it in my life until I saw one drive by me on the interstate earlier today and I HAD to know what it was

@BuckleUpShow

5 ай бұрын

And now you know! What do you think of it?

Hopefully you will still be able to buy parts in 5, 10, 15 years ?

@BuckleUpShow

6 ай бұрын

Only time will tell, but their funding seems pretty secure at the moment

Oooooooo new intro music. Noice, noice.

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

Glad you like it - we do too! (Though it may just make an appearance on this video, as it deserved a fancy intro!)

Landcruiser Japan had a factory winch available years ago.

@BuckleUpShow

6 ай бұрын

And which part of the UK is Japan in?

Not really a true commercial because you cant claim the VAT back thats what made me cancel my order to be honest and the pickup version looks absolutely hideous and its very expensive

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

I suspect they could make a proper commercial variant but it would have to have a GVW higher than 3.5 tons because the base car is so heavy. Since everything underneath is overly heavy duty for off road reasons it's probably all rated for it

Great review

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

Great comment!

What a lovely lovely sweet sweet car

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

Thought you might say that

do they still have that lump where your left foot goes?

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

You mean the dead pedal?

@mbb05jb

7 ай бұрын

i think its where the exhaust is. its to the left of the brake pedal@@BuckleUpShow

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

There is a small lump on the floor, but it's perfect for resting your foot on. None of us three (with feet sizes ranging from comically small to "clown") had a problem with foot placement thankfully ☺️

@mbb05jb

7 ай бұрын

that's interesting, Harrys garage said it was annoying and some south African guy said it gave him a bad back after 3 days.@@BuckleUpShow

I guess that too much is made of the price by some folk, for what is a premium brand. A new Camper …. VW California Ocean, Autosleeper, ….. that stuff is a comparable price. It is kind of what you pay for specialist vehicles. They also weigh 2.5 tonnes plus, when unladen.

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

In terms of value for money, expected lifespan and sheer ability, the Grenadier as actually pretty good value. Not sure how well a VW California would stand up to 15 years of abuse 😅

@DaleSteel

7 ай бұрын

Wrong. The likes of VW have earned the right to charge alot. This company is essentially a start up. They have no right to charge a premium.

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

VW may have earned the right to charge a lot for some of their products, but some of their recent interior-quality cost cutting has not worked in their favour. Yes, INEOS automotive is a start up, but the quality of the product that they have produced and the engineering choices and design behind all the components they have chosen does in fact justify the price they are charging. Capability costs money, after all.

@DaleSteel

7 ай бұрын

@@BuckleUpShow how much did they pay you to review the car?

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

@DaleSteel Absolutely nothing as you well know. We have never, and would never do so. Would you say this every time a motoring journalist says something nice about a Porsche? Well, maybe you would. Who knows? Also worth pointing out its illegal to take payment for a product placement without tagging the video as an ad in the UK and we don't fancy going to jail anytime soon. Perhaps you have an inherent bias given you seem to drive a VW product, and as you're a law abiding citizen, we're sure you've told your insurance company about the slight back box mod on what you describe as a completely stock car.

I wonder if the new Land Cruiser will wipe the floor of this

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

Watch this space - Rob is certainly excited to see what the new Land Cruiser will be like!

the 5 seat commercial doesn`t comply to tax rules for commercials = can`t carry a ton in the back, payload is less than half a ton I think. Also is too high for car parks. So misses the biggest market for this type of car which is commercial. That, the speedo in the middle, the awkward steering and hump in the foot well. Is why I pick up my defender HSE X Hardtop on the 1st of March.

@BuckleUpShow

5 ай бұрын

They're going to axe those tax breaks on all the dual cab pickups come march so it's less of a consideration for consumers going forward

@keving8750

5 ай бұрын

@@BuckleUpShow Seriously ? less of a consideration that a "commercial vehicle" doesn`t comply for tax breaks or is VAT qualifying. Thats almost your entire market for these cars

@keving8750

5 ай бұрын

I believe the 2 seat van version also does not comply with HMRC rules

lol the killer for me is the price even as a business it’s too expensive especially as a 0 debt business, maybe I’m odd that I try to have little finance. I’m sure it’s grate and the 4x4 capabilities and ruggedness would be perfect for me and my business. But it’s more expensive than a New Defender which is too expensive. And you can pick up lots of decent pick ups and other 4x4s including, it also would be cheaper to buy a old defender and refurbish it to my exact needs and wants and still would be cheaper than buying ever the new defender or the grenadear. Mad. Sadly the big buyers of this will be some organisations and wealthy enthusiasts. Maybe in years to come it may become an option to consider on the second hand market.

@BuckleUpShow

3 ай бұрын

It may be cheaper to buy and refurbish and old Defender to do what you need, but it will not have a warranty, which is what a lot of customers value.

looks like a landrover with an old g class mercedes front

@BuckleUpShow

6 ай бұрын

Definitely completely unintentional

Land Rover refused to do it. They still couldve done their pavement princess and a modernized old school Defender.

@BuckleUpShow

5 ай бұрын

I think there’s room for both on the market, but still very glad someone chose to build a reinvented old school Defender

Better all around.

@BuckleUpShow

23 күн бұрын

Thank you

You forgot the Munro Series-M

@BuckleUpShow

5 ай бұрын

With the greatest of respect, that’s not in the same league as this

@marcusm4444

5 ай бұрын

@@BuckleUpShow check the technical specification. Clearly don’t know your 4x4’s. One is an electric workhorse the other is a combustion domestic/lifestyle vehicle. 4x4 specialists who know what they are actually talking about have tested both. Paid review clearly

@BuckleUpShow

5 ай бұрын

We were sent the embargoed technical specs long before they were made public. But you're right, the vehicle that can only go 190 miles and tows a ton less is definitely the serious work horse. The one massive space to better the INEOS is kerb weight cause it's a porker, but because the Munro is an EV it weighs almost the same. Also, to be in the same league you probably need to have loftier goals than making 229 vehicles by the end of 2025.

As Americans are known for their reticent statecraft and diplomacy, allow me to attempt some reconciliation between the British hipster doofuses (doofi) and the indignant Aussie overlanders. Firstly, let’s all agree the pants were too tight - most viewers are now in therapy from that traumatic visual. Secondly, this is not a vehicle created either for the postapocalyptic nuclear winter Mad Max scenario that makes most Aussies think their off-road vehicles need to come with treads off an M1 Abrams and a guy chained to the front with an electric guitar, or for commercial scenarios that require a Ford F350 Super Duty. I had a chance to drive a prototype last year on a mid grade off-road course in the US. I think this review is pretty much spot on, the pants notwithstanding. As for the steering, it’s fine. Everyone needs to chill. It works great for off road, not a problem on pavement. “Learning curve” is 15 seconds if you’re not an idiot. The bracket in the footwell - kinda odd, but I just used it for a relaxed cruising prop on flats and it kind of gave me some support on the steeps. Don’t know what I would think on a cross country run. For the 95% of us who want something durable and comfortable, tooling around a farm or out camping, for sportsmen off track to go shoot themselves in the foot or hook their thumb on a dry fly, this is the perfect vehicle, especially if you’re also using it as a daily driver. Nothing else like it. Leave the hybrids and the air suspension behind, don’t worry about whether you can crawl the vertical face of Half Dome, and just enjoy life (for $86K) with one less kidney.

@BuckleUpShow

6 ай бұрын

You make a lot of good points but unfortunately as a Brit on the internet my hands are tied now and I have to inform you that they're not pants they are trousers

@ElderStatesman-pi3lc

6 ай бұрын

As someone who wears actual trousers, I just can’t accept that assertion. They are meggings. Regardless, good review - my Grenadier is off the production line and cleared for shipment. I think you guys nailed the balanced, common sense position Ineos is targeting. It’s adventure ready and doesn’t punish its driver for that privilege. It’s not trying to satisfy the extremes. Now put the tea cup down and go sell that kidney.

Right, lets have some corrections gentlemen. New Defender/Disco 5/ Range Rover Sport are not Body on frame but the L322 Range Rover was. New Amarok and Ranger are the same vehicle.

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

We didn't claim that the new Defender, Disco 5 and RRS were body on frame, we were merely pointing out that they are feasibly competitors to this vehicle. The L322 was also not body on frame, so you are incorrect there. The Amarok and Ranger do indeed share underpinnings but that does not make them the same vehicle, in the sense that carbon makes up a lot of all living things, but a human and a monkey are not the same mammal.

@alexanderstefanov6474

7 ай бұрын

The l322 was the first monocoque Range Rover

@clanmac66

7 ай бұрын

@@BuckleUpShow Actually you did @ 11:26 "They are all body on frame vehicles" As For the L322 I must apologise, I thought the L405 was the 1st Monocoque RR. As for the 2024 Ranger/Amarok being different vehicles. Someone needs to be a better Journalist before you criticise others. Just look at the dash that gives the game away as well as same engines. yes, front/wings/rear tube are different .

@clanmac66

7 ай бұрын

@@alexanderstefanov6474 I didn't know that, I thought the L405 was and that's why it's much lighter. Learn something new every day.

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

If you listen closely I end the list of Land Rover products by saying "that's the land rover bunch" and then we start listing the body on frame rivals, there's an implied full stop between them. The Ranger and Amarok are badge engineered and yes you're right the dash moulding is broadly similar for both vehicles, the engines and gearboxes are identical. However VW have done a lot of work to suspension and their truck actually has a different rear track width to the ranger so each has its own driving characteristics. Also every panel bar the roof is different between the two. I have driven both and can tell you they do not drive the same.

It’s not letting me subscribe to you 😢

@BuckleUpShow

6 ай бұрын

That's strange, have you tried clicking through to our channel page and seeing if it works there?

@BlissTV_Channel

6 ай бұрын

@@BuckleUpShow it keeps saying error. I think I’ll try from my other device ltr as some ppl say that helps but it’s really weird. I love this channel!

Only fair to warn Aussies.....there is some serious pommy geekery going on here .. no doubt each aspiring to be the new Clarkson....

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

We’ll try to speak slower for you next time. Don’t worry, it can be difficult getting old…

what a bunch of geeks.

@BuckleUpShow

6 ай бұрын

Thank you

C'mon Ineos, get serious and start using real reviewers. Using Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum's to promote your cars without understand what their pointing as is becoming a joke. This is the third pair i've seen globely spread their cheeks for Ineos! People will start thinking your avoiding the real reviewers for show and shine dance.

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

Hi David, we are "real reviewers" but thank you for your libelous comments. Also there's plenty you could attack us on if you wanted but lack of knowledge is really not one of those areas. Anyway, thanks for the view Hun

Need tighter pants.

@BuckleUpShow

7 ай бұрын

Not possible