India is not chaotic: Devdutt Pattanaik at TEDxYouth@DAIS
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I'm amazed. The relation between chaos and patterns it's really interesting. Gives you a new vision of the world.
@acarg8
9 жыл бұрын
It´s amazing!
@acarg8
9 жыл бұрын
Lydson, I thanked you for the lecture. It's very, very interesting! You may send me other ones, okay? Take care. TG..
@sajithmarakar
5 жыл бұрын
what this idiot is talking about ?? Its observer's problem and Indian Roads / streets are ok ? it is not chaotic ?? Guys 125000 people die on our roads every year !! 10 times of that people are wounded or partially disabled in road accidents ! 4000 + people die on kerala roads every year ! We need to make sufficient infrastructure , scientific road /traffic planning , add city infrastructure etc ! Traffic symbals / signals / road markings are every where in the world which people can easily understand ! No need to know language :D What an idiot !
@tanmaykulkarni1545
5 жыл бұрын
@@sajithmarakar Try to understand the crux of what he is trying to say. He is talking about a unitary outlook towards thinking instead of including different diversity of outlook. So the outlook needs to be modified and not the one which is being judged. It's you who is an idiot!!
This is the best wisedom I got out of in any 15 minutes of my life. Devdutt Pattanaik sir is a brilliant man.
To all the haters and those who are fighting in the comments: congratulations, you missed the point
@stallionarun
6 жыл бұрын
ritesh tripathi exactly some people just listen to reply and not to understand if only they realiaed
@jayntsngh
4 жыл бұрын
@autonomous psyche so you didn't understand the point. idiot !!
Oh my God., please be our Guru.. it's Pure Reflection of India
He is not prescribing something. What he is saying is that Indian society has found ways of living DESPITE poverty, corruption, colonialism, diversity. To create such solutions, requires a lot of creativity and lots of different responses. Together these responses have EVOLVED workable solutions. Dont compare everything to the west and complain. They have been working with unnatural advantages such as colonialism and reserve currencies and intellectual talent from around the world as they present as dominant central cultures that draw resources from everywhere.
@AB-uh1pt
10 жыл бұрын
Very well put! I'm so glad to see one sane comment midst so many who missed the point.
@Sch1zoGamingIndia
5 жыл бұрын
What you are referring to is the word Jugaad. Indian society has found solutions to the issues of corruption, colonailism, diversity by JUGAAD
@sajithmarakar
5 жыл бұрын
sht is sht man! but ofcourse you can define it in your way :D you can keep it in your fridge :D
@tanmaykulkarni1545
5 жыл бұрын
@@sajithmarakar Shit can be used as a fertilizer or biomass or biofuel. So there is use for everything if looked at in a useful way
@minodaa
5 жыл бұрын
@@Sch1zoGamingIndia Creativity is yet another sophisticated name given to JUGAAD.
Goddess Durga took the form of Kaali to kill the asuras (demons). Goddess Kaali is not a monster. She is so kind and merciful. She is considered as a goddess of wisdom.
@ankita7342
5 жыл бұрын
I think he explained it from the audience's pov.
@girirajrdx7277
2 жыл бұрын
Asuraas and demons aren't similar
This is a great insight. Thank you for sharing.
Incredible! But like Modi ji, not many will be able to fathom your depth, incisive pov and logic. I am delighted to have witnessed your talk. Your thinking is very different from those who are traditionally referred to as "Lakeer Ke Faqir"....kudos!
He just gave me new eyes!
You Beauty! I am totally delighted to watch this. This makes us understand that everybody is right at there own and we must understand them and respect them.
This is simply brilliant talk.. I have been curious to learn what lets india move, grow and sustain. I guess this is a great explanation! We have been missing live patterns amongst our preceptive chaotic observations. Our perception of chaos is driven by our mind which is conditioned by orderly arrangements and controls. By accepting chaotic patterns and believing that something co-existing has the potential to beat our mind we expand our horizon and let the complexity flow along with simplicity. Lord Mahavir has spoken on a similar point - Multi dimensionality, He has used a word 'Anant-a-nant" which means Infinite infinities. He meant that universe is not just infinite but it is infinite infinities. He meant that there are inifinite directions and nature provides the opportunities to all of them. And all of this not controlled from above but regulated from within...
03:54 that's my hometown we really have instruction in 4 languages even my city hcas 3different names gulbarga,kalburagi,some even call it sun city that's diversity for u
Beautiful and brilliantly explained.This speech is truly liberating.Thank you sir
wow, never seen it in this way. Beautiful!
Brilliantly explain... We all feel ashamed, when we saw chaotic situation around us...but its patterns of every human being, to lead there life in his/her own way. We are the society of inclusive every one... rich, poor, animal, bird, nature ...Thank you very much Devdatta ji 🙏🙂
One of the best and most comprehensive and beautifully presented alternative thinking on the universal problems of Chaos and Order with particular reference to the chaos and complexity in India.
Beautifully represented Indian civilisational narrative ! Indian take on human consciousness !! Unity in diversity !!
He didn't deny the problem that we have. He just adviced us to think differently to solve these problems.
The main message is: Accept things the way they are. “Chaotic”/“Organised” systems are both fine and working. No need to judge and change.
@muditf5208
3 жыл бұрын
No he talks about having a different approach to solving Indian chaos, not the Western model. Chaos is not 'fine and working' because it causes serious disruptions, in whichever form it is.
A whole new perspective even for me, a young Indian. Amazing and pristine it was to relate chaos and pattern. Cheers
What a great thinker!!!! He deserves standing ovation !!!
this man has given me right direction to solve my problem of watching India as Chaos , a solution to chaos is symmetry,thanks man for your talk👍🙏
That's the reason India is only India entire in the world .Proud to be an Indian ...Jai hind..
Enlightening speech and a different perspective, thanks
Oh man, beautifully put and brilliant insights. This video should be made mandatory watch for all foreigners before getting Indian Visa. Thank you Devdutt P.
You just opened my eyes, sir! God bless you!
awesome !! as all of his books.
Patnayak has managed to vocalised what all older Indians know instinctively.The modern education has destroyed this.We need to change our education system. We need to diversify our education and let the Gurukul system also exist
@nimmiragavan8290
3 жыл бұрын
The Gurukul system is far more demanding I think.
Thank you for the video, wise man! One of thr best videos I've come across.
Became a Fan .....Amazing....Respect to you...Hatts off.👌👌👍👍👍
Really amazing.The way he explained is absolutely fine.
Amazing, Wonderful analysis.
what i got from it: India is diverse and different. we cannot create order by exclusion principle but order must be created by inclusion and that inclusion of multitude of such diverse facets is not necessarily chaos
Simply Wow... Really changed my views towards life Sir... Devdatt Sir You deserve my #RESPECT.
Excellent talk with Great Insight, so deep..
I think he is absolutely right..... chaotic people should understand👍👍👍👍
Brilliant Talk.Thanks.
Amazing you just gave a new perspective ... I feel so good
what we need is solutions , not excuses
Amazing speech ...eye opener!
Well said Mr. Pattanaik.
very informative, only people with right attitude can pick the Essence.
Simply superb..
Very well explained...Inclusion is Chaos, Exclusion is Pattern...Agree!!! But would love to hear from Mr. Pattanaik,his explanation for the amount of corruption in our country!!!
If I said, 'This man has amazing, helpful, inclusive wisdom' it would be an understatement
Thanks for giving it a new perspective...
Great explanation!!! But we cannot hide our indiscipline behind complex patterns
@KiranKumarBokkesam
7 жыл бұрын
vinay joshi don't you think everything is a consequence of something that happened before?
@Sujitsaideep
5 жыл бұрын
So make it disciplined..who stops u?
@Jo-pv4jx
5 жыл бұрын
Vijay josh I... Discipline makes things run smoothly, no doubt, but it has to start from oneself, one's family and relatives and spread to one's community. Just talking about it does not help. It is very difficult to get Indians from India , to change their habits when they come to the west. I speak from experience.! it is only when they get fined for spitting on the pavement, for example, that they actually stop. Fortunately the law is strictly followed by the law makers in the west,which unfortunately cannot be said of India. In India, money talks
@upadisetty
5 жыл бұрын
because we lost swadharma. we are neither indian nor western in mindset.
I discovered you today Sir ... gobsmacked !!!!
Awesome thought process
Amazing Thinking☺
Simply amazing !
wonderful lecture
Brilliant!
Nature is not Chaotic a Garden is ....Awesome!
amazing speech
Awesome!!!
Bravo Mr. Pattnaik! Love the concept of negotiated boundaries and the necessity of all-encompassing patterns for a country like India. The whole argument dissolves the plaque in the mindsets of Indians and Westerners alike, who think that the lack of linear easily perceived patterns always boils down to chaos. I have always found a sense of belonging and comfort, and a large number of possibilities amidst a chaotic setup. Wonder if anyone else feels the same.
Brilliant Pattanaik sir very knowledgeable 15 mins
That was awesome
This is from Rajiv Mahotra ji's Being Different Book. There is a whole chapter about this in that book.
@shimmer404
5 жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@vainateyghadigaonkar4172
5 жыл бұрын
Demolishing Devdutt Pattanaik Point by Point in Detail . kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKifr6iFpbLHY7A.html
I'm amazed. This is very insightful 🙏🙏🙏
As someone who moved to a western country in my late 20s. This answers a lot of my questions. While I appreciate order, I don't feel fulfilled and disconnected.
Beautiful
Amazin explanation. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Great talk and Brilliant insights
Excellent explanation sir Devdutt
Superb way of looking at India
Salute to this gentleman, Such an Enlightening session
First step to solving a problem is to acknowledge it instead of doing mental gymnastics
awsome one..Eye opener
Woow.. Great
Love it. Best explainetion
A beautiful explanation.
Amazing..
Really thought provoking speech!
Fantastic and an eye opener... very well explained the patterns of inclusive and diversify society. I think, this is a need of today corporate world to expand their reach in market and enhance customer experience.
But some commenters seem to take pattern or pattern recognition as a negative judgement, something less valuable than western sharpened, efficient, onedimensional order categories. Guess that's a misunderstanding. Both are patterns. Both use patterns. Every human mind does. West and indian. The indian is a more complexe one. By necessity. No judgement of better or worse. To me, It doesn't seem to be an excuse for civil social situations by the author. Its an explanation to understand the much higher demands towards an ordering system and makes aware of hurdles from too monolithic constraints. Chaos=absence of subjective perceiveable order Pattern=a way i perceive single things bundled in a frame of sensemaking Order= a feeled judgement subject makes when he/she found pattern he/she likes. Can be low or high complex depending on the abilities of the thinker. So, for me it souns like the author can be also understood as: an educated indian way of perceiving is far more advanced and multidimensional than the European one that can effort to seek simplicity and is not challenged to make the msth with a complexer human factor. just my impressions after watching. .. Might be wrong.
@yashsharma5778
5 жыл бұрын
I do not think you are wrong at all. Human society works to survive. There is collective subconscious at play here. Nobody gets what they want completely every single time. Collective subconscious of a species has its way to accommodate differences. It is harmony under apparent chaos. That is why we have theories like the butterfly effect, law of attraction, Karmic theories etc. Every single being is like a gear to the machinery of the collective subconscious. None of them is wrong or unimportant, but everyone is a necessary piece for the machinery. And rarely can anyone consciously acknowledge its existence. Again this is just my opinion.
@purabi123
5 жыл бұрын
But can westerners function without order? What is obsessive compulsive disorder? Need of order.
@yashsharma5778
5 жыл бұрын
Dc Poorvi As Mr Twine said order is subjective. If a person finds a patern he/she likes, it is order for them. Westerners find pride in their order and for good reasons. They have been at the pinacle of all economic developments so far. So when one is born and brought up in such an environment developing pride is natural....
Such a great explanation.
matchless ,we should think from out of the box
Very motivating and inspiring speech. I'm not agree with only one sentence i.e. india is extremely poor country... Rest all full of wisdom i must say!!!
There is difference between pattern n chaos, pattern is repeating, symmetrical, cannot say the same about chaos
Very nice message sir.Its a must watch vedio.
Wonderfully explained
Wow, thankyou
Awesome
GLORIOUS CHAOS
Humble Salute to you Sir..... 🙌🙏🤗
Wonderful
Awesome!
you are proud of our india my borther
very nice video
Woo...it’s totally new I experienced
Great.... Loved it.
Ultimate अद्भुत... 💐🙏
Great sir
Brillient
Great video
great talk!
Well explained sir...
Dev is awesome!!