It is good to finally see a parent that doesn't think their violent criminal kid did nothing wrong.

@jodimarie379

Жыл бұрын

I don't think that is really a fair statement. I think a lot of parents are horrified by what their kids did. But that doesn't mean they don't go through different stages of grief and I don't think it means they stop loving their kid.

@bthomson

Жыл бұрын

Yes! This mom may very well have prevented mayhem!

@TheFakeyCakeMaker

Жыл бұрын

Mum did good!!

@Jenn_80

Жыл бұрын

Right? How many times must we see this? I hope Ethan Crumbleys parents set a new precedent for parent responsibility of their kids. Maybe that will force parents to actually parent and pay attention to their offspring.

@esteemedmortal5917

Жыл бұрын

She’s the real MVP here. Deserves a medal (though I doubt she’d want it; at best, this is utterly mortifying)

This is what happens when you pay attention to the warning signs, so many deaths could have been avoided, bless his Mother ❤

@saulthechicanootaku

Жыл бұрын

I bet it was very difficult for her accept that her son that she loved with all her heart was a criminal but she basically did was right and thus, prevented a horrible crime

@Katkiwi25

Жыл бұрын

She did raise him.

@fonzarellyplay370

Жыл бұрын

You mean when you don’t pay attention

@christophergarza9118

Жыл бұрын

@@fonzarellyplay370 does he mean that?

@mariagabrielle6383

Жыл бұрын

@@christophergarza9118 No

Elliot Rodger's dad was a Hollywood director, and Elliot was conventionally attractive. Imagine how unbearable his personality was if looks+ money+ connections to Hollywood couldn't get him a pity date.

@GallowayJesse

Жыл бұрын

100% correct Reading Elliot's manifesto confirms this to be true.

@phillumenistfilms

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@mikemoggerson6651

Жыл бұрын

He was a short half white half Asian Manlet. He lived in a location where he was competing with tall Chads. He had no clout, wasn’t very attractive, and was socially slow. He had no chance.

@pabbylink

Жыл бұрын

@@mikemoggerson6651 You are delusional

@ScumfuckMcDoucheface

Жыл бұрын

@@mikemoggerson6651 Manlet haha That term gets me every time haha =)

"Personal improvement is associated with a lot less time in prison." Truer words have never been spoken!

@AdamHarlowe-sb6qj

6 ай бұрын

It doesn't work.... He should have accepted that the market ain't for everyone and left...... The fact he didn't spill any blood and has to due time for not taking action and overthinking it means it was all for nothing..... Im pro. Acceleration or anarchy so I am somewhat fascinated by the incels... They seem to be generation X, s worse nightmare..... Yet the failed sexual revolution that generation x ever so proudly flaunts created the conditions for their situation....

@user-vm9we7fs4d

12 күн бұрын

His involuntary celibacy won’t be a problem anymore let’s just say he won’t be anal retentive

“Personal improvement is associated with a lot less time in prison.” 😂 I love this man’s dry humour.

@macforme

Жыл бұрын

WHAT A CONCEPT: Do nice things for people... avoid prison!!!!

@liamcraddock9539

Жыл бұрын

@@macforme Personal improvement doesn't necessarily involve doing nice things for people.

@macforme

Жыл бұрын

@@liamcraddock9539 Oh you're right...but doing nice things for people compared to going on a killing rampage could qualify as personal improvement.

@liamcraddock9539

Жыл бұрын

@@macforme Yep. But a lot of guys are too high in agreeableness or are pushovers or act like "niceguys" (to use the internet term) and don't attract girls because of it. I've changed and struggle a little bit less now but this used to be a problem for me.

@sagenosnibor9173

Жыл бұрын

Right. The humor is what I tune in for.😂

Good! I feel bad for young men that are maladapted and can't get any chances with women. HOWEVER no-one has the right to anyone's body!! Teach your children this please.

@iciajay6891

Жыл бұрын

They need to learn that if they want a partner, they have to work on themselves. People are not psychic, and as a woman I know many men who may he incel leaning. They terrify me. Just in everyday interactions at work. How do they expect even open minded woman to feel safe with them if they are out of the gate being borderline abuse in there interactions with just acquaintance at work? I have had a guy who I barley know try to randomly buy me a $600 camera if I would just date him. After I told him I was not even straight. Then he has gone on to make work when he is there hell. It is on the individual to make there own behaviour appropriate. Not one anyone else. Men who are like this get a pass to often. And as a survivor of csa and assault, I think men are now waking up to the reality that they are being terrible partners and terrible to people around them. And instead of taking accountability and growing and to change, they just blame woman. Or anyone else. If you have agency, you have the ability to not be abusive.

@anjaxtv

Жыл бұрын

@@iciajay6891 firstly I'm so sorry what you went through as a child 💔!! No child should ever come across a depraved individual that hurts them, breaks my heart. You are spot on in everything you said 💯!! I researched these men and went on their sites, truly disturbing stuff.... for example many of them think that the government/society should provide them pr0stitut3s because its their right to have s3x 🤯. Shocking and crazy but also a lot of really sad things, like them posting their s*1cide letters. We live in a world where women FINALLY get to choose who they want to be with, not all women but more than ever before and this completed shakes up the status quo men are so used to. Unfortunately for them women have standars and like you said, they should work on themselves but they just blame women. Scary world truly..

@anjaxtv

Жыл бұрын

We have to catch them before they go beyond the point of no return. Obviously mental illness in that community is rampant and many of them need help. There is nothing more dangerous on the planet than desperate man that has nothing to lose.

@marimari894

Жыл бұрын

I don’t feel bad for men who don’t work on themselves and who are entitled 🙄

@shameronstar7220

Жыл бұрын

Come on ladies. Take the L for the greater good. You only got to have sex with him once just to keep him from killing everyone LMAO

im glad the mom called the police and they actually took the situation seriously when responding. without that, who knows what would end up happening.

@mirianakovachevic748

Жыл бұрын

She should pay him a prostitute. Problem of celibacy can be solved for as little as 20$ in Mexico.

@t6ra

Жыл бұрын

@@mirianakovachevic748 those exist in the united states too, doesn’t solve the problem

@mirianakovachevic748

Жыл бұрын

@@t6ra What do you think celibacy is ? This is fake problem and propaganda for stupid masses. Low IQ men believe ( because of propaganda ) they should befrend women and girls before having sex with them. Not having female friends is not the same as celibacy.

I imagine his Mother was so scared of him!! I would be! Good she called Police!

@charletteseaver5923

Жыл бұрын

and it is just very sad when a woman has to fear her son more than she fears for her son

@janecoe9407

Жыл бұрын

WELL WHO TAUGHT THE MAN TO HATE WOMEN??? THIS GUY LEARNED FROM SOMEONE!! DID DAD TEACH HIM?? IF AS A CHILD THIS GUY SHOWED SIGNS OF MENTAL ILLNESS IT IS PARENTS JOB TO GET THE KID HELP.

@chuckharding6405

Жыл бұрын

@@janecoe9407 Maybe you did.

@lf9341

Жыл бұрын

@@janecoe9407 stupidest comment.

@lf9341

Жыл бұрын

@@chuckharding6405 Haha.

I went to college over 40 years ago. I had a lot of friends and roommates who were nice looking women; however the men didn't want to dance with them, or talk with them. These guys were looking for women with perfect bodies, they wanted women who looked like Farrah Fawcett or Christie Brinkley. (this was the 70's) These women were horribly rejected and yet they didn't turn to violence.

@Star-dj1kw

Жыл бұрын

Great point! No one is entitled to a dating partner. Women don’t get the best choices and skip over the scraps. Men and other genders aren’t entitled to sex or companionship either! This Incel mindset is entitlement on steroids. It’s ridiculous.

@FirstLast-bs8cb

Жыл бұрын

@@jhernandez7132014 so men can’t control their emotions because of their hormones 😂

@petegallows5494

Жыл бұрын

J Hernandez - why? Have you done that sort of research? I highly doubt that. Also, just look at this dude and the rest of them - do they look like have high testosterone levels? Seriously? This guy? They generally look very average- which is not a bad thing, because average looking men have partners. These guys don’t have partners because of their mindset and their horrible personalities. They feel entitled, although they have very little to offer in return. Their fathers and grandfathers were able to find partners, for thousands of years, looking exactly like that, having way more testosterone btw. They just had a different mindset and weren’t basement dwelling manchildren.

@oceania4681

Жыл бұрын

i’m sorry to hear about how your friends were treated. i hope they’re doing well now and are happy

@_letstartariot

Жыл бұрын

And outside of college, those women probably found good men or women who were wonderful partners. Frat boys are gross. Glad I went to college with my then bf/now husband. Not that I wasn’t hit on my gross frat guys who didn’t care about what I wanted in life, they just wanted to get laid. Gross.

I feel for the mother, all most want is for there children to be healthy and happy in life, it took great courage for her to do what she did.

I picture a feedback loop… greater failures w women, increased animosity, social attractiveness to women declining… etc. so much more research is needed. That was so informative! Thanks, Dr. Grande!

@BrainoConf

9 ай бұрын

That just proves our point. Rejected by one, you are edging, rejected by two, and it's OVER.

@zeyadib1211

3 ай бұрын

my life

@mrconfusion87

3 күн бұрын

Vicious cycle...

"Personal improvement is associated with a lot less time in prison" lol

@tonygalati2672

Жыл бұрын

It really isn't, though.

@user-vm9we7fs4d

12 күн бұрын

@@tonygalati2672incel

I never got the crazy celibate stuff. Ive had my own droughts in the dating pool. All it made me do was work out more , hang with my friends more , excel at work and play more video games. I think the problem is less about women and more that they have no body. No women , no friends, no family except maybe mom or dad

@xXluluchanelXx

Жыл бұрын

and that they go online and decide collectively that women are the reason, and continue to reinforce that ideology day after day to more and more people.

@xminusone1

Жыл бұрын

Obviously. If they think that being in a relationship is the ultimate achievement of their lives, than they're clearly mistaken.

@xminusone1

Жыл бұрын

@@xXluluchanelXx Focusing on hate never served anyone well. But trying to be the best version of yourself certainly helps. I think with Internet, every village idiot found each others.

@liamcraddock9539

Жыл бұрын

Having some droughts and having barely/ absolutely no chances for years and years are different things. They'll surely have different effects and different guys won't respond to these the same way.

@shandya

Жыл бұрын

The difference is when you’re having your droughts, you thought how to improved your quality as a person: working out, socialize, etc. They never thought that way, when they got rejected, they always blamed the women/society.

I heard that on some incel forums, if someone gets laid, they're shunned from the community. Kind of the opposite of productive.

@hidesbehindpseudonym1920

Жыл бұрын

I've gotten laid before and I still feel like an incel, I've never tried to interact with the community though, so they probably would shun me, while simultaneously making fun of the way that I look. Really a fun bunch of guys.

@sethjoseph8152

Жыл бұрын

That’s a contradiction

@XanderShiller

Жыл бұрын

@@sethjoseph8152 exactly.

@Mouse_Metal

Жыл бұрын

Yep. They are like a cult - when one of them doesn´t fit the criteria to be in that cult, he is kicked out.

@scifirealism5943

11 ай бұрын

Yep.

I applaud the mom for seeing red flags and taking the concerns seriously. I must be difficult to call the police on your own child, but she weighed her options and came to the conclusion that getting people involved was the best options. She probably saved some lives by her action!

These entitled guys are scary esp when they get guns. Everyone gets rejected but they can't handle it & blame others. Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊💙💙

@bthomson

Жыл бұрын

Hi Zena - Why do people lump groups of individuals together? It is so obvious that no two people are alike! Hatred of groups is so dangerous!

@rumham7466

Жыл бұрын

@@bthomson what groups? OP said “these entitled guys”, assuming they’re referring to men like the subject, incels, or men who can’t take rejection like the rest of us. And feel actual anger at the people that are not interested in them

@bthomson

Жыл бұрын

The group they feel anger at is the "group" I meant. To me women are not a group but individuals who either like an individual man or not.

@zenawarrior7442

Жыл бұрын

@@bthomson Hi friend😊 I was specifically referring to the incels who do consider themselves a group but yes another group is women. Incels are so angry & self righteous they can't see there are many non-shallow females who base a relationship on trust, love, many things beyond the physical. Its generally the immature men who want the young, perfect female haha. Always great to hear from you🌻🌵💟

@zenawarrior7442

Жыл бұрын

@Commando Knetter True but also joining groups that down the other sex, like incels, can reinforce the negative beliefs, make people less reflective, prone to group think.

His mother calling the police most likely saved Many innocent lives! Excellent video, Dr. Grande!!

I live in Hillsboro and actually served as one of the jurors for this case.. it’s cool to see it on one of my fave channels now.. Glad they caught this guy.

The mother is a hero. We all owe her a huge thank you

@coreyledin-bristol7068

Жыл бұрын

@No Soup For You Dahmer had a father. So did Gacy. Not sure WTF your point is. As if having a father makes a difference.

@coreyledin-bristol7068

Жыл бұрын

Your comment was that he had no father figure....I responded to what you wrote. I can't debate you over things you don't actually write.

@coreyledin-bristol7068

Жыл бұрын

And trust me I have done a lot of research on both examples.

@mrbardel4363

Жыл бұрын

that mother is a hero for puting her son in prison for life . best mother ever ...

@g.ra.6829

Жыл бұрын

She is a hero and he belongs in jail

Why do so many men Believe they have a RIGHT to a woman’s a body or attention as if a woman is not a human being with their own BEING not just an object….but can’t or don’t understand the vibe that they give off as a creep to women

@hidesbehindpseudonym1920

Жыл бұрын

There are a ton of good looking guys who think like that and get plenty of chances with women. Besides, somebody could potentially think like that internally, but externally give off no sign that they thought like that. It doesn't always show through. If women could tell how men thought just by interacting with them universally and without fail there never would have been serial killers with wives or adulterers with wives.

@C_U_R_I_E_L

Жыл бұрын

Like why don't they just get those life like dolls? It's not a big deal . There is more than sexual desire at play imo

@willnill7946

Жыл бұрын

@@C_U_R_I_E_L well why can’t women get a job instead of stealing their husbands money

@Blackheathenly

Жыл бұрын

@@willnill7946 If you leave your tiny box, you'll see, there are millions of women who work and earn their own money. Many are completely self sufficient. Many women make more money than their partners. You pathetic incel. How about you take a shower and get out of the house for the day?

@ember1794

Жыл бұрын

@Pierre: Exactly!! Bravo!!

The problem with incels isn't necessarily that they can't have sex. The problem is their outlook. They believe sex is owed to them. They see women as tools to fulfill their desires and not as actual human beings. Their entitlement is the problem. They'd have better luck with women if they changed their outlook.

@matthewr7593

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. They're filled with so much bitterness and resentment, a lot of which comes from the feeling that the world has wronged them in a fundamental way. In the same way it's said that if you're depressed the best way to break out of it or at least cope with it is to help other people, these men would be happier if they saw life in this way as well. I don't like calling them incels anymore, because its derogatory and a lot of these men are in true pain, and I don't think making fun of them does any good, especially since many of them are just sad and unhappy, not taking it out on others. But these jaded men need help and support, and by learning that the world doesn't owe you anything because you're not the star, but that viewing human relationships as a fruitful, reciprocal situation where both people can get joy and benefit, would help them and all of us a long way.

@han1660

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they seem to be very focussed on looks as well. They are convinced they can’t get someone because of the way they look. It’s not that, it’s their attitude that gets in the way

@shameronstar7220

Жыл бұрын

That's why prostitution exists lol

@derkeheath5172

Жыл бұрын

@@han1660 They also expect to be able to date 10s when they clearly don't have the looks, personalities, or life success to ever merit that. Unrealistic expectations because mommy told them they're special.

@eriklarson9137

Жыл бұрын

As long as you refer to some women as hos, then using the term incel is fine. Otherwise it is embarrassing.

I love the focus on research and personality. Tying it all together like that really helps to understand this peculiar group.

@j.b.3502

Жыл бұрын

If you want any info ask away. I'm pretty incel and pretty much sympathize with these types of guys.

@teru797

Жыл бұрын

@@j.b.3502 You're pretty brave for admitting this. The FBI is probably also going to be interested in talking to you lol.

@mc_zittrer8793

Жыл бұрын

@@j.b.3502 So, what's your story, homie? What all would you feel comfortable sharing here?

@mikemoggerson6651

Жыл бұрын

@@teru797 it’s not like it’s some “niche” group. It’s a very significant portion of young men who cannot get anything.

@j.b.3502

Жыл бұрын

@@mc_zittrer8793 Well what do you want to know? Long story short, I've spent 16 years as an incel. Didn't know or have a name for it until Elliot Rodger brought it to the news but when I heard about it, I realized I have the condition as well. Anyways, they said "work on yourself" and "be yourself" and all that so I did. I tried for over 15 years. I in my early 20s got my act together, went to college, graduated, got a good job, saved money, got a house, a car, and live all alone. And as far as I know, I dont have a bad personality, nor do I have horrible looks although I wonder if people are being nice about it. I've been described as average looking. Anyways, throughout this entire time, I have not been able to get a girlfriend. I'm actually thinking of making videos about it and explaining all of what I did to try to solve my situation.

Are you saying that its nature's law that some men can never find partners and yet its man's responsibility ? that's not the excuse. We as a society need to find a solution instead of blaming and shaming men for inherent bias in the nature.

@Wilbur-em1hw

7 ай бұрын

Nature’s law is the bs they made up for justifying their decision to ostracize, ridicule and target people they perceive as lower than them. We both know how society treats people that don’t fit in.

@taylorkai4144

3 ай бұрын

“find a solution”? if men want to get laid they need to become more bangable. unattractive males are simply reaping natural consequences if they find sex difficult to access. what’s your “solution”

His mother is a hero! She probably not only saved her own life but countless other women who would have become his victims. I hope she knows how wonderful and brave she is. She saved many many innocent souls with her ability to recognize the red flags and act on them.

@JohnDoe-qm8ns

Жыл бұрын

And yet she failed her own son.

@TheAverageJoe2014

8 ай бұрын

She failed her son, she may have saved others but she ultimately is a contributing factor as to why he was the way he was.

Cults and Incels are two of my favourite subjects, in some ways I guess they are one and the same thing and I love Dr Grande's take on these people.

@xminusone1

Жыл бұрын

They are certainly dogmatic and have many things in common.

@wakkowarner8810

Жыл бұрын

The main difference between cults and incels is that people in cults have sex.

I'm surprised it took so long for him to get arrested.

criminals really should learn how to delete their search history lol

@frankpaya690

Жыл бұрын

They should remember to pick- up their laptops when they take them to a stranger for repairs too.

@hillehai

Жыл бұрын

@@frankpaya690 Hard when you're licking kræk off the kræk of a kræk-hooar.

My husband of 33 years asked me what I thought the main reason was for happiness and I immediately said " low expectations! " Some men can only imagine being with beautiful, probably unattainable women. Lower standards might help!

@skylinefever

Жыл бұрын

Sure. Lower your expectations is great. However, that sounds like the motivational slogans about people choosing to be happy. It's not like someone has a knob they can turn down to lower their expectations, as much as people don't have a button that switches on happiness.

@bthomson

Жыл бұрын

This is all true. But there are OBVIOUSLY only so many cheer leaders! But there are many more nice, friendly girls (women!) I would like to mention "Men don't make passes at girls that wear glasses" is as old as the hills!

@goonzie95

Жыл бұрын

the reason incels even exist is because WOMEN are the ones who refuse to lower their standards. average men are being rejected by average women simply because women these days have inflated egos due to social media.

@charletteseaver5923

Жыл бұрын

I think a change in standards rather than lowering standards..just semantics maybe..but i think wording can and does make a difference in the perception of value..for instance shift the focus onto what is really of value in life and in a relationship..the true beauty and gold is inside and is not always reflected as a bright and shiny surface..so, i guess looking for what is real, substantial and true..but if a man possesses no depth to his own character, he likely is unable to perceive it in another person..much less have any sense of true value..so unless he is willing and seeks to grow as a human being he will continue to look for love in all the wrong places..as the song goes

@frankpaya690

Жыл бұрын

That works both ways

The Y-collective - a German YT channel producing deep dives on societal issues - did a very interesting reportage on this subject. They interviewed, incels, social workers, psychologists and plastic surgeons and went to some of the incel forums. The whole thing really scared me. Asked about preventing violence, one social worker said: "Over time you will notice that some men just cannot be changed. They just can be stopped."

@xminusone1

Жыл бұрын

The last phrase is very true. I've tried to talk with some and they usually don't listen at all.

@catcoffee7958

Жыл бұрын

Very dangerous on society

@judithbradford9130

Жыл бұрын

Part of what MAKES them incels is fear and resentment of the idea of having to change, mature, learn, EARN someone's trust or affection in order to access the use of their privates. They want access to some female's body as TRIBUTE to their being men, as though just being male implies the right to regular sex and adoration from SOMEONE they find sufficiently hot to count as a "chick".

@uutdiegodzilla3821

Жыл бұрын

@@xminusone1 This man was working in a center that deals with men being violent to women in general, and obviously within the last decade or so increasingly more incels. And to imagine that these are the men that already seek help, and how big - and dangerous - the amount of men is that never do, makes it even more chilling! One of the incels the (female) reporter interviewed did not even want to speak to her in the first place, that's how much he loathed and disrespected women! He definitively was one that was unable to listen already...

@mirianakovachevic748

Жыл бұрын

They should interview sex workers, not social workers.

Thank goodness for his mother! Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️

It's amazing how gainful employment, interesting hobbies and a sunny disposition can attract a mate! Thanks for your thoughtful and concise analysis, as always Dr Grande.

@purringbluzzmuffin8030

Жыл бұрын

If your employment is an even remote reason your other half is with you, end the relationship.

@kina18

Жыл бұрын

@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 It's called reality. No one wants to work their ass off whilst their partner sits on their ass playing video games. Get a job.

@purringbluzzmuffin8030

Жыл бұрын

@@kina18 If anyone is with me for any other reason than they love me, I'm gone.

@jakehiller6444

Жыл бұрын

@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 Lots of people meet their spouses at work.

@kina18

Жыл бұрын

@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 To each their own. Being someone's meal ticket isn't in my plans.

It's natural for men to feel reduced self-esteem if they are not able to get sex easily. (Being able to get attention, and actually having sex, can be very different things, but that's another matter.) But it's worth asking: What are the influences that promote those feelings? I have a growing suspicion that our society has strongly promoted those cultural influences-in many ways, but especially in entertainment directed to the larger population.

@vice2versa

Жыл бұрын

there's a reason mass shootings happen a lot in America.

@ronaldgarrison8478

Жыл бұрын

@@vice2versa Are you being taxed by the word? Please explain a bit more. WHAT reason do you think it is? And what is the connection between mass shootings and sex?

@mrconfusion87

3 күн бұрын

​@@ronaldgarrison8478 Having too many sexually frustrated men is NEVER a good thing for political, economic and social stability... 🤣🤣🤣

I actually watch your ads without skipping forward.

Some men have hostile attitudes toward women because they lack relationships with them. OTOH others have hostile attitudes BECAUSE OF their relationships. To put it another way: Starting intimate relationships is one thing; maintaining them is another.

@scifirealism5943

11 ай бұрын

Yes. Both require risk and work to achieve.

I want to say THANK YOU to Tres Genco's mother! 🙏🏼 it must not have been easy to make that 911 call. Thanks to her action, a potentially deadly horrific mass shooting was avoided altogether. She deserves great praise. 🙌🤲

That mother is a hero

@sarahjaye4117

Жыл бұрын

Compared to the ones who paid no attention

His mother is a hero!!!❤

Thanks Dr. Grande. Very educational video.

These uploads continue to get better and better. Thank you 👍🏻

"Tres responded to his mother's concern by acting like having the gun was no big deal." His having a gun wasn't a big deal. Lots of people have guns. What he was planning on doing with the gun was a big deal, however.

I have never understood why it's ok for men to reject women but not women. You are absolutely right Dr. Grande in your assessments. Life ain't fair.

@liiiiaaaaaa

Жыл бұрын

me neither

@goonzie95

Жыл бұрын

women rarely face rejection, men face it all the time so it's a lot more frustrating and sometimes a guy can snap after a certain amount of rejections.

@shawnnewell4541

Жыл бұрын

@@goonzie95 You don't think a woman can?

@goonzie95

Жыл бұрын

@@shawnnewell4541 can what?

@vassilopoula

Жыл бұрын

@@goonzie95 how do you know?

And a potential disaster was averted. This does raise the question of the difference in mindset between those who plan and obsess over committing a serious crime and those who never commit, not simply because there was external, timely intervention.

@xminusone1

Жыл бұрын

It's kinda frightening. I'm not in a country where things like this happen alot but only one is too much. I shouldn't happen at all. But some people are beyond help. They can only be controlled.

Thank you, Dr. G, for always delivering a thorough analysis in your inimitable way!

"He planned to kill 3,000 women but he couldn't make it past his mother" I'm dying.😆

@sarahjaye4117

Жыл бұрын

That the most amusing part

Respect to this mother!

I am surprised by the attitude that many incels have regarding what type of woman “should” date them. The assumption that they should date models and gorgeous knockouts is laughable. I know a particular guy from a former workplace who thought he was owed dates from attractive women. And he was definitely a 3 on the 1 to 10 handsome rating scale. And his personality was barely a 1.5. He wouldn’t admit that he was a very mediocre looking person. With a crappy personality. My sympathy generator just won’t fire up for this type of guy.

@tinawindham6958

Жыл бұрын

Men can dress great, smell good and b a good provider without having to b a 7-10. Personality, humor is what I look for.

@hidesbehindpseudonym1920

Жыл бұрын

@@tinawindham6958 people like you are rare, you can have realistic standards all you want that doesn't change the standards of most women these days.

@briangarrow448

Жыл бұрын

@@tinawindham6958 Absolutely. I am ugly, balding and built like a hobbit. And I wear glasses. I’ve been told that I look like Wilford Brimley. And yet I have had an active social life and seem to have no problems finding wonderful women to date. And no, I am not incredibly wealthy. I’ve found humor and a positive outlook has worked for me in the dating world.

@Gabster1990

Жыл бұрын

A 3 isn't mediocre. That below average.

@MrAerohank

Жыл бұрын

@@hidesbehindpseudonym1920 Please... women don't have high standards. Most men simply just don't give 2 shits about how they dress or smell or look or present themselves.

Heroic decision making on part of the mother, saved her own and many other lives.

@purringbluzzmuffin8030

Жыл бұрын

What kind of mother betrays her child?

@harsh3948

Жыл бұрын

@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 Good, her useless bloodline ends with her

@sarahjaye4117

Жыл бұрын

@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 I don’t see any betrayal occurring

@purringbluzzmuffin8030

Жыл бұрын

@@sarahjaye4117 She narc'ed on her own son lmao

@sarahjaye4117

Жыл бұрын

@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 True lol but it saved lives and someone needed to

I've probably said this time and time again, but I just want to say that I wish you well, Dr. Grande. I really enjoy your professional standpoint regarding your subjects. Really digging the occasional attempt at humour in your videos, they're always worth a chuckle. :) Hope you're safe and well.

@eriklarson9137

Жыл бұрын

Calling someone an incel in his title is super professional.

@procioneintubato

Жыл бұрын

The subject of the video self identifies as an incel, so yeah, pretty professional.

@reachingcoldmountainbeforeyou

Жыл бұрын

@@eriklarson9137 😂 show me where the title hurt you

Good morning Dr Grande. With all the information online, I wonder if Trey wanted to get caught before he committed the crimes. Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis and informative topic.

You don’t need to know anyone in Greece to go there for ten days - it’s the cradle of civilization! But everything else about him was a creepy red flag so well done to his mother for calling him in.

Always interesting. Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲

When I was incel I only wanted what I desired because I thought I deserved it more than the next guy. Then I realized there are no incels and I was ignoring the undesirable options available to me. I'm sure there was a unattractive girl interested in him but he wasn't interested in her.

@evelynwaugh4053

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. That's why the joke about not wanting to be a member of any club that would have you is funny.

@xminusone1

Жыл бұрын

True. They only are interested in models and are so focused in being hateful than they don't even try to improve themselves. Improving what you can always make your situation better. Also, if they weren't entitled they won't be incel at all. Another thing: If you don't have other hobbies, can't take care of yourself and depends on your mother to cook for you or doing your laundry, don't shave, don't have a clean looking haircut, take 1 shower by week, no matter how attractive you are, you WILL stay alone because I'm not a woman but I know for a fact, that guys like I just described aren't attractive and these things are major turn off. Girls and women don't want a kid to take care of, they want a man to share a relationship with. That's very different. Take this from an older man.

@scifirealism5943

11 ай бұрын

You are correct. I'm a former incel

@scifirealism5943

11 ай бұрын

​@xminusone1 you're right. I was an incel for 6 years

@scifirealism5943

11 ай бұрын

​@xminusone1 I'm still a virgin but I don't have hatred anymore.

Sometimes incel behavior can be linked to autism spectrum disorder. So having social skills and personality improvement won't work for them.

@Human1136

Жыл бұрын

I won't say I'm an Incel until I'm age 40

@scifirealism5943

11 ай бұрын

I'm autistic and a former incel.

Thank you for another great analysis. 🙏🏼

Spoke to this man before he got discharged off the army through basic training. He always gave me weird vibes.

"Personal improvement is associated with a lot less time in prison" So true lol

You're spot on well done Dr G 🙌

@towpottsfam7631

Жыл бұрын

Wahay! I got love! Does that mean I can request a vid on ezra miller?? Need you to put me off him ( sucker for a pretty face! 😍). Thinking he's like the new Michael Jackson and was probably passed around Hollywood paedo ring as a beautiful and talented young actor. AnywY would love you to cover him 🙏

Dr Grande, I was vacationing on Belleair beach in Florida this last week, and actually met someone who subs to your channel!

@sheilagravely5621

Жыл бұрын

REALLY!! Omgoodness, notify the media!! Wow...

@BucketHeadianHagg

Жыл бұрын

@@sheilagravely5621 what was that all about? I've seen your comments before. You're usually nice.. What the hell?

@__jadedmuse__

Жыл бұрын

I know a ton of people irl who also sub to his channel. It’s a neat connection to make w someone. 🍻

@BucketHeadianHagg

Жыл бұрын

@@__jadedmuse__ agree! He has a really friendly community of subscribers 🤗

Love your work Dr Grande 👏 ❤️ 🙌

I'm surprised you didn't mention any link between incels and vulnerable narcissism.

@Mouse_Metal

Жыл бұрын

And autistic spectrum.

I always get a good laugh from your dry sense of humor!

The most unattractive thing a man can do is treat you like a potential conquest, earnestly trying to be something he’s not, then expecting you to reward him for his efforts with your favours. Then being angry and resentful when you don’t keep your end of a bargain that you never even made. It’s like a dog doing tricks unbidden, then biting you when you don’t give it a biscuit.

@anderson-gb8rp

9 ай бұрын

No one is stopping you from chasing chad.

@scifirealism5943

6 ай бұрын

I want to lose my virginity

That was him with the police scanner codes. Thxs for the information. I remember that extremely well

There are men who fall into a gray area, where they can get women but not the “quality” of women they’re convinced they’re ENTITLED to. So many women have experienced guys like this, including me. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this, Dr. Grande. Even guys who have some social skills can be horrible to women in every way, especially when no one is around. They feel like they’re owed attention & access to any woman they want. This can even show up online, with guys who feel entitled to receive messages from women or expect women to offer up nudes etc. I think these men are narcissistic. I think they see all these things in society that basically cater to their sexual desires, which reinforces their notions that women owe them…right down to the commercials during sports events on TV etc. I’m in Las Vegas & so much of this town is sending men these types of messages as well. It’s everywhere you look. These guys can be dangerous on dates too. And on top of all this, there aren’t really any resources out there to help women deal with abusers like people think there are. Stalking victims can find themselves in a really bad situation where the police don’t even do much unless an active crime like assault is taking place. I know because I’ve been stalked twice for extended periods. People don’t even want to hear that a crime like that is taking place. If you don’t have any supportive friends or family, things can get much worse. The types of guys definitely feel over-entitled.

@__jadedmuse__

Жыл бұрын

Every word felt! I’ve been stalked a few times myself and the police do absolutely nothing. I’ve had my home broken into, peeping toms, I’ve been digitally hacked and stalked too. It’s exhausting and I’ve felt so vulnerable, exposed, violated and unsafe. It’s mind boggling the amount of men who feel entitled to your body, personal spaces and privacy. It’s scary.

@karifoto

Жыл бұрын

@@__jadedmuse__ It is scary! Sorry to hear you’ve experienced all that too. That sucks! People think the police will intervene & get the perpetrator to stop like the unrealistic endings in cop shows or the movies. “Just go to the police”, people often say. And as you undoubtedly know, restraining orders can cause more violence against women & even murder. Sometimes I think guys who feel entitled to women on social media are only a few steps away from being aggressive or violent on dates or being stalkers themselves. I know not all of them are so inclined, but it’s a huge problem in general that rarely gets talked about. I feel apprehensive about trying to use dating apps etc after being stalked. The guy who stalked me was sexually aggressive in person right away, as if he was used to behaving that way AND getting away with it. I’m curious what Dr. Grande would say on the topic of sexual aggression leading to other crimes, especially after he mentioned it in a true crime analysis.

@xminusone1

Жыл бұрын

I don't know if they're in fact narcissist but they are over-entitled for sure. These are what any father nightmares are made of. I've 2 adults daughters, 25-28 years old and it's something I have in the back of my mind. I know they're resourceful but they also know that if they ends up in trouble, they can call me anytime. It's not a new phenomenon but what's different is that nowadays, they can found each others in forums and messages boards, giving them the impression that it's normal to think that way. I have met some of them and no matter what I said, they don't listen. They just call you names ( that mean nothing to me BTW like "beta, simp, and other ) and beyond any reaches. They need professional help. It will make the world safer and maybe help them too.

@jeffersonott4357

Жыл бұрын

I've watched a video about lions recently, and to hear the lion expert talk about how female lions need to submit to a new male introduced in order to try to build a pack. I think these incels feel like they are dominant, alpha male lions, and they deserve easy access to womens bodies, which WOW. It's a mixture of diluted think and narcissistic think, sprinkle in a dash of cruelty, u got Elliot roger

@catcoffee7958

Жыл бұрын

True ..I pray you are Oki today

Hi Dr Grande, can you look into the most recently released episode of Unsolved Mysteries on Netflix? It's about a girl friend who (I'm partly speculating) shot her boyfriend in the head while he was asleep, and then then dismembered his body before dumping the parts along a highway. Tammy Renee Williams is the name of the killer girlfriend. She is currently on the run and hasn't been found for a few years now. Her boyfriends name was David, I forget the last name.

@karyannfontaine8757

Жыл бұрын

This sounds so interesting. I wonder if David abused her.

@adamkern3548

Жыл бұрын

@@karyannfontaine8757 he did not, she was the abuser. She's just a psycho 100%. Normal people don't dismember bodies.

@karyannfontaine8757

Жыл бұрын

@@adamkern3548 Thank you.

@annazaman9657

Жыл бұрын

I'm more mystified about the first episode. Mile marker 45 one

@adamkern3548

Жыл бұрын

@@annazaman9657 that one's pretty crazy, but I don't think they identified the killer yet, unless I'm not remembering correctly. But yeah I wouldn't mind listening to something about that as well

Dr. Grande in this case analysis I really like how you gave Mrs. Genco the credit instead of the paid professional investigators involved in this case for being able to determine that Trey's behavior leading up to his arrest was clearly a credible threat to the public. I liked your phrase used in this case analysis, "-the tendencies they already possessed-" too.

The best and worst thing about the internet is that everyone can find other people who share their interests or views. If you have a toxic worldview, you will find others who will support it. The "radicalization" of really any belief has become very common (Qanon for example). Not sure how this pans out over time but it seems it can get a lot more bleak, unfortunately.

@scifirealism5943

5 ай бұрын

Yes

Praises to his mother. See (hear) something, say something.

I feel so sad for the mum, but I also respect her very much for her decision. I hope she gets support. As someone who has been in very toxic relationships and as a DV survivor, I think it's not healthy to blame oneself nor the whole opposite sex. What have worked for me is to focus on myself, what I want for me and take a break from dating and relationships. I guess the fact that depression lowers the libido helps too!

The mix of humor with unrelenting professionalism never gets old! The Doctor is right again.

@harsh3948

Жыл бұрын

He is dead wrong actually. Male celibacy has increased to 30% now

I went to Walmart today it was full of low value people.

@sheilagravely5621

Жыл бұрын

👍🏻🤣

it literally is a 'problem' with society/another gender if one gender is more selective though

@penny4thought168

Жыл бұрын

Can you really blame them for not wanting to date abusers? Incels don't have any respect for women. That's a problem with them.

@penny4thought168

Жыл бұрын

@@thismeaning9 I can see the Incel message boards dude. I don't have to date someone to see what they post online. You don't have to date someone to get to know them either.

Their lack of self esteem is weaponized by giving these guys an enemy to blame for their problems.

@anderson-gb8rp

Жыл бұрын

Women are sooo into short ugly men with self-esteem. Lmao.

Ty Dr.Grande

Hi Dr Grande!!! ☺️😘

When a child fails to feel the warmth of the village, the child will burn down the village to feel its warmth.

@StillNotMarble

Жыл бұрын

When a child fails to feel the warmth? Is that a Freudian slip, or did you intentionally mean to say "when a child is surrounded by warmth but does not acknowledge the blessings and love he has, and fails to feel it."

@nicholkola9975

Жыл бұрын

Yes no. Warmth of the village is like community… not entitled to sex with others

@Shane-er2fp

Жыл бұрын

This is an ancient African proverb, stating that when a cognitive mind is neglected it will use its intellect to hurt those neglected them, and if it's a society they feel his neglected them they will attack it and burn it to the ground because that makes them feel better. Because they have felt hurt by others they want to spread their hurt. We don't have communities anymore that pull people in and make better systems we have a bunch of selfish narcissists that tell you to work harder to get where they're at when they stole from others.

@harsh3948

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholkola9975 keep coping

@Mouse_Metal

Жыл бұрын

@@StillNotMarble No. It´s about people who get bullied everywhere for not fitting in, so they end up mentally fu*ked up and seek revenge on their bullies.

Thank you so much for this video! Can you do a video on the new Netflix Unsolved Mystery? Tiffany Diamanté was her name she was hit by a train in New Jersey… it’s hard for me to feel like this could be anything but a suicide but her parents and their lawyer seem to think there’s something more to it, the longer I watched it, it had me questioning! I don’t know the layout of the land but it’s weird she didn’t have her clothes found and she got 4 miles in a short time. I can see it both ways as I’m a open minded person. Stranger things have happened I guess, but there’s generally an explanation for everything! I could see how she may have been living a more complicated life than her parents know and mental illnesses seem to surface more rampantly at that age.. I’d LOVE your take on it Dr. Grande!

@katalac

Жыл бұрын

Valiante

The statistics talk by DrG is so enjoyable 😍 I would roll my eyes at the guy and his manifesto if it wasn't so damn dangerous and deadly. People's lives were saved but it was a close call. 😔😪

@vice2versa

Жыл бұрын

So this guy had to Threaten violence in order for you to take someone like him seriously???

@doandroidsdream1748

Жыл бұрын

Right? Dangerous, yes but so very pathetic!

Hey Dr Grande, lovin the new camera

I'm an autistic woman and was an incel but goddamn when i decided to become a volcel i just felt so glad to be done with the pressure of finding someone.

@LiquidSwan

Жыл бұрын

😂

@HerveyShmervy

Жыл бұрын

You mean celibate? Sorry i hate when people use the term volcel its meaningless

@nancyzehr3679

Жыл бұрын

Me too! People dont get it, tho. Sex is very important in our culture. Like money and cars. Im happily celibate! And debt free!

@jg9301

Жыл бұрын

@@HerveyShmervy yes, celibate. I wanted to emphasize that it's voluntary out of habit ig. I'm from a culture where being old but single is looked down upon.

@karyannfontaine8757

Жыл бұрын

That is a small part of life. There is so much more in life than just finding "someone". Not to worry, perhaps you are better off alone.

Good Grief! Terrifying! And planned it, and gave reasons??!!

@bubbabroad9051

Жыл бұрын

I know, I was basically just thinking during this video, thank goodness he wasn’t able to go through with it!! And usually things like this only make the news when they do. Whew! Thank you so much, Dr Grande. Very interesting.

Dr. Grande, they cut your talking about the Sponsor, for an ad! Nevermind. You're back!

Rock bottom is feeling spiritually connected to Elliot Roger

A lack of sexual intimacy in one's life can be a drag. I've had some pretty long dry spells between relationships (2 years at one point) so I get maybe being a bit frustrated, but the idea of wanting to end the lives of strangers because other strangers didn't want to play doctor with you is simultaneously the most childish and terrifying thing I've ever heard.

I do feel with item number 5, you are getting into the dangerous territory of the Zero Sum game. This is something that the Incels themselves promote. Part of this is the 80/20 Rule that Incels use to describe attraction. Citing, 80% of women go for the "top" 20% of men for partnering up and reproducing. Meaning that is why they are missing out. Personally, I don't hold to this. I personally think (and yes, this is just an opinion) is issue is more with the incels ability to form relationships NOT romantically just with a woman but just normal relationships with other people, particularly men. I have spoken to Incels (albeit, online, well they claim to be incels) and the one thing that I noticed is that they have few if any male friends. They seen other men as competition. There is no bonding friendships with other guys. Yes, he is online on a community of Incel men but he is boasting. Boasting about what he can do. Like a one upmanship. The issue here is relationships in general. What is his relationships like with other people in the community?

@areuarealman7269

Жыл бұрын

Move anywhere USA with no skills no kids and no connects and 0 hobbies or work too meet people? Hey be my friend .Disneyland.

@breezybee777

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@marianpe5773

Жыл бұрын

Alpha male takes all females so 80/20 is right, we are all animals (some smarter with culture but still animals)

@areuarealman7269

Жыл бұрын

Gee wiz wally will you be my friend ?

@user-xg3uy6hq9g

Жыл бұрын

supposed instead of attacking the women who reject them, they were to attack the men who were in the way so the women are forced to choose them? and not to be crude but there is the oldest profession, they could pay someone to have relations with them.

Hey Dr G nice effects

Once again Dr. Grande speaks the truth and gives great advice, unfortunately I doubt many self-proclaimed incels are watching this video.

It sounds like Tres wanted to be caught beforehand. Maybe, this way, he can get mental help.

There is a surprising word missing in this conversation - love. Sex is only part of a loving relationship that also offer companionship, security, friends and so on. Clearly this young man was a danger and wrong in both potential retaliation and no clue in how to find a loving relationship. While no one accepts this form of acting on anger, it would be helpful if women could be concerned with the growing trend of disaffected men with few attractive prospects, the majority who don’t act out this way. As a father with two daughters, I pray they will find a good spouse from a seemingly shrinking pool of candidates. With universities enrolling more women (mine is 60% women/40% men) and still promoting notion that women are disadvantaged while ignoring decline in males. The lack of compatible college educated men will not bode well for my daughters generation or society. This incel trend is one manifestation of men with limited prospects trying to cope with their situation - some acting out in much more angry and dangerous ways.

@TheSunderingSea

Жыл бұрын

Adding to this, dating sites and apps have completely skewed the market in favor of women, who now have access to a national if not global pool of potential mates. Short, ugly and even certain ethnicities of men (Asian-Canadian and Asian-American males in particular) have an incredibly hard time getting a mate in such an environment.

@scifirealism5943

Ай бұрын

Okay

Listening to doctor grande while studying: *chef's kiss*

@alostbard

Жыл бұрын

A bit of a pointless exercise, seeing as how it is impossible to process reading words and listening to words at the same time. You would only be able to do one or the other, not both at the same time.

@iaminconstantpain9524

Жыл бұрын

@@alostbard It's maths, chill

Love this voice that relaxes me to sleep

@scifirealism5943

5 ай бұрын

Yep.

He'll be having plenty of sexual attention from low quality mates now, just not the kind he imagined

If I recall, an attempt is preceded by a 'substantial step' towards committing the illegal act

13:35 Really agree with this. By most definitions I'm an incel, but I've never felt a strong urge to take it out on other people in some way. I'm actually quite adverse to the idea of hurting innocent people. My guess would be that having little to no social interactions, maladaptive personality traits, and making poor personal choices will cause a feedback loop. I think the unwanted celibacy just catalyzes and amplifies the effects of other bad characteristics in a person, and gives them a scapegoat to blame for all their problems in life.

@THE-id1by

Жыл бұрын

Glad you don't want to hurt other people, but what about yourself? Consider getting outside help, and if the help doesn't work out, seek other help. Lots of people don't mesh with specific. Counselors.

@brianscott6574

Жыл бұрын

You sound like you have excellent self-awareness - give yourself credit for that! I wish all the best to you.

@AkiratheWhite

Жыл бұрын

@@THE-id1by I'm an incel only in the sense that I don't have a girlfriend and don't have many female friends. Otherwise I'm pretty much the same as any old bloke. 🙏

@brianscott6574

Жыл бұрын

@@AkiratheWhite Yeah, I hear you. To let you in on a little secret, girls and women (females) can also be extremely introverted/shy/insecure, feel rejected, undesirable, etc. I'm a female using my bf's phone. When I was young, I was extremely insecure. Sometimes I believed that I was attractive-enough, but if the male was shy, too, we tended to get stuck in nowheresville limbo. Also, I think a major factor with many young women is that sex is a very confusing issue (depending on how we were raised and conditioned, especially by conservative, religious mother's). We're bombarded with mixed messages - you're supposed to be gorgeous and sexy, but not sexual. Somehow that outdated "good girl/bad girl" dichotomy - still exists. Just a thought....

@harsh3948

Жыл бұрын

@@brianscott6574 “Using my bf’s phone” Lmao you can’t make this up.

how does one get rejected again and again and not once consider that the problem lies within themselves 💀

@scifirealism5943

5 ай бұрын

Idk

@scifirealism5943

Ай бұрын

I'm a virgin still

@user-vm9we7fs4d

12 күн бұрын

@@scifirealism5943bend over

Your voice is sooooo peaceful. If you write a book, pleeeeease go an audio book.

@sarahjaye4117

Жыл бұрын

He has written a book, I wish it were audio

@TrishaSmith

Жыл бұрын

@@sarahjaye4117 what’s it called?

I think your closing remarks are spot on. Particularly the idea of self improvement as a way to escape unwanted celibacy. There are many pathways to self improvement: mental, social, emotional, physical, financial, self esteem etc. I just think that the willingness or ability for men to engage in self improvement activities is more lacking now than it was in the recent past. I've seen a lot of guys turn things around in their life, and I have myself too. It is very clear to me that I've had more success with attracting women after I made some big changes to my life. But I also see a lot of guys who just languish in self defeat, still wounded by things that happened to them as adolescents. Unwilling or incapable of making even small adjustments that would make them happier. Violence and unwanted celibacy are not directly linked as you pointed out. If it were, there would be a lot more violence in the world. But it is a gateway to the violence when other factors are involved, like the radicalism, or latent homicidal tendencies, or even cultural views.

@Hansgame

Жыл бұрын

what if people dont want to change but just want to be themselves? isnt that what we tell our kids "its ok to be like you are" ?

@makeshift_battlefield_music

Жыл бұрын

@@Hansgame well, I think you are being sarcastic, but just in case you are being earnest I will humor you. People are entitled to 'be okay with who they are' but others are entitled to their opinion of someone. So if I am unhygienic, I can't expect people to be okay with that and want to sleep with me. That is kind of the point of the discussion. Men feeling entitled to women's affection regardless of whether or not they actually qualify for it. Then feeling upset because the world will not reshape itself around them. So if someone is happy with the way they are, that is all well and good. But if the way they are keeps others at a distance, they have to also be okay with that, seeing as they cannot control others. If they want people to treat them as if they were different, and that desire is strong enough to cause distress, than they must become different if they want to avoid the distress.

@johnkeane1419

Жыл бұрын

How does someone improve their height, face or ethnicity?

@piperjaycie

Жыл бұрын

@john Keane All most incels would have to improve is Wash, go to the gym, work out, get a hobby, work on social skills and seeing women as people. That’s not from me that’s from the KZreadr Alan Roberts in one of his latest videos. Interesting that the things you list are things that people can’t change and if anyone did have a problem with those things that is a them problem not the guy trying to find a girl problem. But maybe that’s what you think are important to women and it’s definitely not.

@konstantintheistanbuliston5392

Жыл бұрын

@@piperjaycie How its not, while you see tons of shit many datas on those things ?

Hey Dr. Grande, I would be interested in a video talking about ways to mitigate or reduce problems associated with "poor" scores on the big 5. I personally score low on extraversion and very high on neuroticism and, while I'm nowhere near these fools in delusion, would like to hear your thoughts on living well with these traits.

@sarahjaye4117

Жыл бұрын

I score the same and would be curious as well

This mom did the absolute right thing. I hope he finds the help he actually deserves and later in life, actual love with a decent partner (- instead of hate and sadness and isolation). Had he committed the horrific crime, he wouldn’t stand a chance in future. But... thanks, mom, for being a hero. :)

Unchecked hypergamy is going to continue creating these people