As someone who was an ovechkin fan since day 1 I hated Crosby for years. I learned to also appreciate how special Crosby was in his own right . Both these players have lived up to the hype in their own respective ways . It was a privilege watching both of their careers

@lucarossi9453

7 ай бұрын

Same for me but the opposite, i wouldn’t say i hated it ovie but I didn’t like him at all at all as a younger kid ( 27 now) then getting older ive started to love him n was so happy when he won the cup. I love ovie

What's better? Apples or oranges?

@stephenb.5304

9 ай бұрын

apples...duh

@VictorEMusique

9 ай бұрын

@@stephenb.5304 lol well played

Most would probably say Crosby because he's the better overall player. That's fair. He's the best player of his generation and one of the best ever. Ovechkin is one of the best 3 goal scorers in history. Definitely best in generation....and one of the most fun to watch. I personally can't put one over the other. It's been a privilege to be able to watch both of their entire careers.

@jake-qn3tl

9 ай бұрын

Ovechkin is a much better player lol you just don't understand what you're watching. Not to mention that Crosby plays with another all time great in Malkin and Ovechkin has overrated Backstrom lol

@user-yg1dg6xm2g

9 ай бұрын

People often remember the flashier player rather than the "better overall player."

@lambo8429

9 ай бұрын

One of the three best??? lol. Try #1

@garettp8553

9 ай бұрын

@@jake-qn3tlThey don’t even play on the same line

@ChimoWilson

7 ай бұрын

if you think Backstrom is over rated, I no longer value ANYTHING hockey opinion you might have. I am an Ovechkin fan, but this is an absolutely ridiculous take. @@jake-qn3tl

ovi will leave as the best goal scorer of all time. crosby will leave as the best team leader of maybe all time. two incredible careers that can’t be compared

I might be biased but c'mon. 3 stanley cups, 2 conn smythes, 2 olympic golds, world cup championship, world cup mvp, etc. Am I missing something?

@sammyweed4771

8 ай бұрын

Yea he had better teams

@dylan15243

7 ай бұрын

​@sammyweed4771 its a powerful thing when a player can make others better. The way he did with Guenzel, rust, sheary and kunitz.

A ovi fan. You all made me smile. I figured a landslide for sid cause I’m from Canada 😅😂 happy they put respect on my guys name 🔥 because if you ask me it’s always ovi

The tact and respect that almost everyone approaches this conversation with is exactly why I prefer Hockey fans over Futbol fans (definitely over soccer fans) and sometimes even over MMA fans.

Crosby is amazing and he's easily in my top ten players ever, maybe even top five, but Ovechkin is about to break a record that, a few years ago, no one ever thought would be broken.

@SSNESS

6 ай бұрын

Crosby also beat him in juniors

Ovi is amazing but i give the edge to the player with the 3 chips

@stevendchu

9 ай бұрын

not to mention the two Olympic Golds

@andrewflicker1867

9 ай бұрын

​@@stevendchuand world cup, world championship and jr championship

I'll admit before I comment. Caps fan. Crosby is the superior all around player. That goal for Canada is and probably will be his defining moment. So for the time being, it would be Sid the Kid. That being said, as great of a player Crosby was, Crosby's legacy would be people arguing if he came close to be the greatest player of all time, in which the answer would end up being no due to Gretzky. Ovechkin, while a bit more limited of a player goal scoring aside, potentially has his moment waiting in the wings. Ovechkin is a highlight reel player that did the one thing most casuals are looking for when watching hockey: Scored a crap load of goals. If Ovi passes Gretzky, there is no argument on who is the greatest goal scorer of all time. In conclusion, the answer is Crosby unless/until Ovechkin passes Gretzky. Because unless Crosby can pass Gretzky in overall points, Ovechkin will have a record that no one thought could be broken, and might not ever be broken for a long time. (As great as McDavid and Matthews are, last time I checked they're both behind pace of 8 and 99 for goals in a career). They'll label Crosby as ONE of the greatest hockey players of all time. But if that record falls, they'll label Ovechkin as THE greatest scorer of all time. And if you're the greatest of all time in anything in your sport, that's a bit more special.

@paulm2041

9 ай бұрын

Well written post. I would add that Crosby had 18 seasons of at least a point a game. If he can keep this up for two more seasons, he will break one or Gretzky's records.

If Ovi breaks Gretzky's record....

7-10 years removed from both retiring and it's going to be difficult to make a case for Crosby over Ovechkin as long as Ovi breaks the goals record. He's already the GOAT goal scorer but that record has to be taken down. Ovechkin has more MVP's, is a vastly more decorated individual player and goals matter more than assists in the end. Ovi is arguably the greatest power forward to ever play the game and will finish top 10 in points as well. They're both top 10, neck and neck but all things remaining equal and if Ovi breaks it I'd say he's ahead.

If you had 5 Crosby's vs 5 Ovechkin's on the ice, I don't think Ovie would be able to keep the puck out his end. Crosby is a complete player, Ovie is a hard hitting goal scorer. Nothing against Ovie, he's likely going to break a remarkable record next season, but if he were to care more about the goals record than championships, then that defines who the better all around player is. Ovie has celebrated once in his professional career, Crosby has had 3 Cups, and speaking of goals, the 2010 Olympic OT goal is bigger than any individual goal Ovie has ever scored. Also, the other "forgotten" goal he scored in the 2014 Olympic gold medal game might also be bigger than any Ovie goal in history. I rest my case lol

@user-yg1dg6xm2g

9 ай бұрын

People often remember the flashier player rather than the "better all-around player.

@dw1784

9 ай бұрын

@@user-yg1dg6xm2g that depends. Would the Capitals fans rather have 3 Cups to celebrate or 1 Cup and a goals record? I would bet Crosby has made Pens fans happier with more great memories than Ovie has made Caps' fans. Unfortunately we can't know that answer as no one in the world can cheer for both teams and get away with it...

@user-yg1dg6xm2g

9 ай бұрын

@@dw1784 Crosby is unlikely to reach the top 3 in all-time points leaders, whereas Ovechkin has a chance to secure the first position in goals. Consequently, Ovechkin's name will likely be more frequently mentioned in the context of league-wide records in the future.

@chrishaughton1747

9 ай бұрын

I think as the league and game evolve, that record will be broken again. Ovi is a goal scorer, Crosby is a an all around player, great leader, great teammate and he has 3 cups. He is also ahead in points to Ovi. Crosby helped influence players, Ovi has influenced players as well, but when your influencing McDavid compared to a Laine, there is a huge difference. Crosby reads the play, Ovi waits for a pass.

@theroseexperience

4 ай бұрын

@@dw1784 Team award versus individual awards

OVI

Oddly enough Ovechkin .. Crosby is the better player but Ovi is gonna be considered the best goal scorer for a longggg time. Sid isn’t the best at anything all time despite being a top 5-7 player ever

@Samsquamsh

9 ай бұрын

No way. top 10-20. That's being generous.

@Childofbhaal

8 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@SamsquamshCrosby is about to break into the top 10 all time points leaders when he played in one of the lowest scoring eras in hockey and also missed his absolute prime due to injury. Three cups, tons of individual awards, Olympic gold winning goal. He easily deserves to be top 10

@Samsquamsh

8 ай бұрын

@@Childofbhaal yeah cool. He's still a cheap, whining and diving. You know this is true. He's literally cried on the ice before. I may have to respect the hardware, but I have zero respect to him as a hockey player.

@jeanjacques9365

8 ай бұрын

@@Samsquamsh Who is your top 1 then Gretzky i would assume ? You are going to complain about the last guy in hockey who played a whole career with a target on his back when that meant something because there was still headhunters in the game, but are gonna ignore the fact that Gretzky would whine to the refs and have dudes on the ice who's only job was to protect him. You don't like the player and that's fine but you cant take away the fact he is a top 10 all time.

I mean…Crosby also broke a record set by Gretzky that no one thought would be broken.

Wait two seasons, then we can compare. Both are very special

@Samsquamsh

9 ай бұрын

There really shouldn't be a debate anymore. Listen to how the media talks about Squid. They sound like they're talking about a guy at the end of a great career and are already writing their retirement articles about him. Ovi is still getting mega fresh media hype and putting up the goals like no other man has ever done for this duration of their career. There is no need to wait two seasons. The answer is tapping you right in your balls as we speak.

@jeanjacques9365

8 ай бұрын

@@Samsquamsh media hype about a record getting broken not about how great he is playing right now quite the opposite people are raising the amount of season the capitals will have to drag him through to beat the record while being grossly overpaid for what he brings nowadays.

already knew who he was gonna pick once he said he knew him since 9th grade 😂

It's funny how Malkin and Letang get all the love but it was Phil Kessel who put the Pens over the top. Without Kessel, Crosby's retiring with 1 Cup. The day Pittsburgh traded for Phil was arguably the most important day of the Crosby era for the franchise.

@theroseexperience

4 ай бұрын

The Kessel - Bonino - Hagelin line was unstoppable

Keep in mind the ONLY reason why *Sidney Crosby has 563 goals* compared to *Ovechkin's 827 goals* is b/c Crosby had a total of 4 concussions during his career missing a total of 94 games between 2011 to 2017. Crosby makes up for it on points though. *Crosby 1,525 pts & Ovechkin 1,497* (as of Nov25/23) *Stanley Cup wins* Crosby 3 (2009, 2016, 2017) Ovechkin 1 (2018)

@fk4410

8 ай бұрын

Ok he would still be 200 goals behind

@ChippyMac93

7 ай бұрын

you do realize that ovechkins “first season”(82 games) was a lockout right? 2004-2005

@jrcolonial98

7 ай бұрын

Yeah the concussions don’t really make up for it. Plus there’s something to be said for being durable and resistant to getting injured. That’s part of being a great player. LeBron was pretty much injury proof too

@theroseexperience

4 ай бұрын

Durability matters, also Ovechkin would be flirting with 1000 goals by now if now for the 1.5 seasons lost to lockout and another near full season to COVID. Ovechkin lost his entire rookie season to lockout which is why him and Sid entered the league at the same time and has the ROTY over Crosby as well Ovechkin is far and away the more decorated individual player as well and has more MVP's

Ovi

The championships give it to Sid. The individual awards give it to Ovi. As a Caps fan I can’t deny 3 Cups and a gold medal. Ovi is my favorite player without a doubt. Ovis only chance would be to get one gold medal, one more Cup and to break Gretzkys record.

А что такое особенная карьера ? Самый красивый гол или первое место среди снайперов ? 18 личных призов НХЛ + Кубок Стэнли или 9 сезонов по 50 голов + ? А может 9 Морис Ришар Трофи ?

Sydney, and it's not even close...

As a Ovi fan their both great in their own way

@SSNESS

6 ай бұрын

Crosby is better

Obviously crosby is quite skillful all around but he isn't breaking records like Ovi is and tbh you can't find many guys who are like ovi while you can find a lot that are like crosby.

Who has more SC?

@blacksheepAb

9 ай бұрын

Henri Richard

@theroseexperience

4 ай бұрын

Who has more MVP's?

Sid is the better all round player yes, and has better team accomplishments. But let's face it, Sid may not go down in history as being the BEST in any area, and plenty of players have multiple Cups and have captained multiple Cup winning teams. Ovi will be the BEST goal scorer in history. That's what makes his career more special. But if I want a player to build a team around, I'd probably pick Sid even though I'm a huge Ovi fan.

Crosby a bit before ovi ill debate

Anyone that watched this era will say Crosby. but for some kid 40 years from now they will remember Ovi more due to having the all time goals record. I’ll be in my 60’s telling them just how good Crosby was and they’ll say something like “yeah but he wouldn’t be as good in this era!”

@nadaduo1765

9 ай бұрын

he won't have the goal record in 40 years , he hasn't even got it now

@MuhammadZegras

9 ай бұрын

@@nadaduo1765 that’s a pretty bold prediction

@nadaduo1765

9 ай бұрын

​@@MuhammadZegras matthews will score more then ovie

@MuhammadZegras

9 ай бұрын

@@nadaduo1765 maybe. But ovi had 40 more goals than matthews in the same amount of seasons (this year no included obviously)

@nadaduo1765

9 ай бұрын

he just got another hat trick tonight lol I really think he will do it some day @@dylan15243

Crosby all day. 3x stanley cup champion 2x conn smythe trophy 2x hart trophy 3x ted lindsay award 2x art ross trophy 2x maurice “rocket” richard trophy 1x mark messier nhl leadership award 9x nhl all-star 1x nhl all-star game mvp 2005-06 all-rookie team 2x olympic gold 1x world cup 1x world cup mvp 1x iihf world junior championship silver 1x iihf world junior championship gold 1x iihf world championship gold - 18 consecutive point per game seasons (2nd all-time behind Gretzky) - youngest player to win hart trophy (tied with gretzky at age 19) - youngest player to win ted lindsay award - youngest player to win art ross trophy - youngest player & only teenager to win scoring title (art ross trophy) in history of north american professional sports - youngest captain to win stanley cup - youngest player to lead playoffs in scoring - 1 of 6 players ever to win multiple conn smythe trophies - 1 of 3 players ever to win back-to-back conn smythe trophies - youngest player to reach 100 points in a single season (tied with hawerchuk at age 18) - youngest player to record two 100-point seasons - youngest player to reach 200 career points - youngest player to be named to first all-star team - only player in nhl history to score 30 goals at age 18 & 35 - triple gold club member - only player to captain all 3 winning triple gold club teams - 1 of 3 players ever to win conn smythe trophy, hart trophy, world cup/canada cup mvp - 15th most points in nhl history - 8th highest points per game average in nhl history - 6th most points in nhl playoffs history - 16th highest points per game average in nhl playoffs history all of this despite missing most of his prime from 2010-11 to 2012-13 due to injuries...

Crosby better player no doubt, in 100-200 years from now, everybody will be talking about guys chasing Ovi goals and 99% of people wont even know name Crosby, some guy with 3 cups just like other 100+ players that have 3 cups. He will be around 25th in points and nobody will care. While Ovis incredible highlights of hits and goals will lead the charts forever.

@toke7342

9 ай бұрын

Lol ovechkins "record" will be long gone in 100-200 years 😂

@toke7342

9 ай бұрын

Lol ovechkins "record" will be long gone in 100-200 years 😂

Sid cups medals every trophy 🏆 u can name Ovieee one cup n scoring titles but he never had a malkin

@theroseexperience

4 ай бұрын

Ovechkin has more MVP's, much more individual hardware, won the Calder over Crosby and is the greatest goal scorer ever. Crosby is the best at nothing and they'll both be top 10 in points all time when they're finished. Like you said, Ovechkin didn't have a perennial MVP beside him playing the entire time either.

If Ovi was Canadian born he would get more respect from the Canadian Hockey Media... There is no doubt that Ovi has had a better career and if you disagree with me, look at the numbers.

@nadaduo1765

9 ай бұрын

what numbers are those ? lol the numbers say crosby has played like 150 games fewer and still got more points

@HeWhoRoamsAimlessly

9 ай бұрын

Crosby. Full stop.

@dylan15243

7 ай бұрын

Ovi led the league in scoring while also having the worst plus minus in the league that year.

It's Crosby but it's closer than people think

What league-wide records does Crosby hold? If Ovechkin surpasses Gretzky's goal-scoring record, his career will likely be more memorable.

@GaganChahal

7 ай бұрын

Here's some Crosby achievements: - 18 consecutive point per game seasons (2nd all-time behind Gretzky) - youngest player to win hart trophy (tied with gretzky at age 19) - youngest player to win ted lindsay award - youngest player to win art ross trophy - youngest player & only teenager to win scoring title (art ross trophy) in history of north american professional sports - youngest captain to win stanley cup - youngest player to lead playoffs in scoring - 1 of 6 players ever to win multiple conn smythe trophies - 1 of 3 players ever to win back-to-back conn smythe trophies - youngest player to reach 100 points in a single season (tied with hawerchuk at age 18) - youngest player to record two 100-point seasons - youngest player to reach 200 career points - youngest player to be named to first all-star team - only player in nhl history to score 30 goals at age 18 & 35 - triple gold club member - only player to captain all 3 winning triple gold club teams - 1 of 3 players ever to win conn smythe trophy, hart trophy, world cup/canada cup mvp

@user-yg1dg6xm2g

7 ай бұрын

@@GaganChahal All of that is impressive, and logically, I agree with you that Crosby should be remembered with higher esteem. However, reality doesn't always align with logic. Right or wrong, if Ovechkin surpasses Gretzky in the number of goals-which seems doubtful at this point-his name will likely be mentioned more often than Crosby's, 20+ years from now.

Crosby

@usa5893

6 ай бұрын

@@exxxz1999Crosby will go out having more total points than ovi, what’s your point?

Crosby is an all around better player in the offensive zone and defensive zone and has the ability to make players around him better. Crosby is by far the better of the 2

If I'm building a championship team and can only take one of the two I am picking Sid. Every. Single. Time. Thats the only metric.

100%✓

Crosby, not a debate

@user-yg1dg6xm2g

9 ай бұрын

People often remember the flashier player rather than the "better all-around player."

@user-yg1dg6xm2g

9 ай бұрын

@@exxxz1999 Most point per game seasons is certainly impressive, if Crosby achieves it. But it will never be as impressive as the greatest goal scorer in history. In 20 years, no one will remember that Crosby was the better all around player. He will just be remembered as a great player who is close to the top of the list, but not quite at the top. But Ovi will be remembered as the greatest goal scorer of all time. Is this fair? I'm not saying that it is. I'm just using logic and reason to assume the most likely conclusion, 20 years from now.

@Samsquamsh

9 ай бұрын

LOL huge debate. As a leafs fan, you should be sickened with your poisonous words.

@hockey_all_star5895

9 ай бұрын

@@Samsquamsh ovi has goalscoring, CROSBY HAS LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE it is not a debate

@Samsquamsh

9 ай бұрын

@@hockey_all_star5895 I'm too drunk to even debate you right now, kid. But you'll understand my point one day. Until then, enjoy the Crysby show, because it's damn near over. Thank God.

Crosby by FAR.

@toke7342

9 ай бұрын

@@exxxz1999 that doesnt change anything

Ovi 100%

I have always hated comparing the two. One is a Center and the other is a Winger. Their roles in the game are completely different. I will say, Cups are won by a team and not an individual. This makes Ovechkin's chase on Gretzky goal record greater. I will also add one other thing that is not talked about, which is the players character. Crosby has always acted immature and disrespectful. OV sells the sport, enthusiasm and open personalty far better. Frankly, I still think Crosby acts as a terrible role model for young people. You earn your respect and not be coddled and grow up feeling entitled. OV has done that, Crosby has not!

Ovechkin way more dominant

@GaganChahal

7 ай бұрын

Doesn't even play defense.....

@theroseexperience

4 ай бұрын

@@GaganChahal Might go down as the all time hit leader, but I guess hits aren't defense

Crosby.

@davem3477

9 ай бұрын

@@exxxz1999 Crosby overrated!? Hahahahahhahaha

@davem3477

9 ай бұрын

@@exxxz1999 true but it’s a selfish feat.

@davem3477

9 ай бұрын

@@exxxz1999 1 cup? I will take Crosby’s leadership over a selfish player

@davem3477

9 ай бұрын

@@exxxz1999 silly rabbit you know nothing about the sport

@davem3477

9 ай бұрын

@@exxxz1999 it’s spelled SIDNEY

With all due respect to Crosby (as in i really respect him), i gotta go with ovi. Insane goal scoring aside, he is incredibly durable and has always been there for his team due to how little games he misses. He’s a great leader and a very hard worker. I think if he gets the goal record, he might be put over Crosby a few decades down the line (not to say that Crosby isn’t any of those things, it’s just his injuries and missed games)

@jeanjacques9365

8 ай бұрын

Ovechkin was not really a leader on any terms close to Crosby, work ethics has never been Ovechkin strong suit either (partying is what he is know for and not playing in his defensive zone). You can prefer Ovi but your arguments here are very bad and that's putting it lightly. Ovi will have a record that's about it and that's what even brings up the discussion at all.

No brainer. Also Syd has more character as a man in addition to way more dimensions as a player and a team mate.

OVI all day, Sid is overrated top 10 lmfao maybe 20-25 , international goals don't matter when NHL never competes in them... To think McDavid would have two Olympic metals

@usa5893

6 ай бұрын

The only thing ovi has over the kid is goals, everything else Crosby takes

The fact that McDavid is way better than Crosby doesn't take away from what Crosby's done. Stop comparing them. It's okay that McDavid is better. Crosby is still a top 10 player of all time.

@toke7342

9 ай бұрын

Crosby is better than Ovechkin

ovie might not even make the record, he looks washed, but even if he does matthews will break it some day anyway so crosby by far

Why would anyone say Crosby ? Yes he is a better overall player but Ovi is going to break Gretzky's fucking record which is much more special than an olympic gold , anyone saying Crosby is just straight bias

@natemillergaming

9 ай бұрын

Bias to greatness

@WJV542

9 ай бұрын

3 Stanley cups also helps

@deahelkcunklaer2180

9 ай бұрын

Because he's very clearly a better all round player and legitimately a nice guy. There's a reason he's so well respected in the NHL. Youngest player to 100 points, Youngest captain to win a Stanley Cup, 3 Stanley Cups, 2 Olympic Gold Medals,....and the most obvious thing is that he routinely has twice as many assists as goals. Ovechkin on the other hand is a total Cookie Monster and just runs around trying to hurt smaller guys.

@deahelkcunklaer2180

9 ай бұрын

Crosby also because he's not buddies with Putin

@Dx-so7jm

9 ай бұрын

@@deahelkcunklaer2180 the video is asking about a SPECIAL career , Crosby had a great career but no matter what he does nothing will be as special as beating Gretzky's record

Crosby.

@Samsquamsh

9 ай бұрын

LMAO you had to edit your comment to change it to Skidney?? lol you clearly do not watch honky.

@emiliac4390

9 ай бұрын

@@exxxz1999 no, Crosby is way better 🤣