UPDATE: If you have enough available bus/aux sends for each musician to have their own mix, then a better solution is to grab a HA8000 (amzn.to/3ccufhF). If you need musicians/vocalists to share a bus mix but still have some individual control, refer to this video.

@matheusPMAVieira

4 жыл бұрын

Good thing of HA 8000 is that you can plug up to 2 main mixes or plug a direct input on every 8 outputs. So the musician can choose between 3 mixes and if he wants to hear mono/stereo.

@renaldomelendez

4 жыл бұрын

Can I connect the amplified output of this to the Rolls Pm50se?

@collabworship

4 жыл бұрын

@@renaldomelendez I wouldn't recommend it.

We use what I believe is a simpler, and more customizable method, with no sharing. Since M32 /X32 have 12 output buses, we use those for individual monitor mixes. The musicians can individually select their preferred volume for each of the 32 channels plus aux input via a smartphone or tablet app, and connecting to the mixer via a dedicated wifi router which is CAT 5 connected to the board, just for this purpose (not for internet). They also need a headphone amplifier (we use Behringer P2) and wired earbuds or headphones with an 1/8" jack. The headphone amplifier plugs into an XLR cable that goes to the appropriate snake output bus channel on the stage floor. The musicians cannot change any dynamics settings as these are channel specific on the board, nor my talkback volume. I can send them effects too, not sure if they can adjust that from their phone. And if a musician cannot get their phone to connect or doesn't want to mess with it, the sound guy can mix it for them from the board, or a tablet/laptop. The only downside on these boards is I cannot assign them a bus to mix (unlike the Presonus AI Live series), they must select it from their device. The jack they are plugged into is labeled with the bus number, but mistakes happen. If they accidentally select the wrong bus, they mess with someone else's mix!

This is awesome brother! Thank you for such a practical and easy to follow video for budget IEM systems.

I seriously love your channel. Thank you so much for creating concise & easy to understand videos on setting up audio equipment in church. I use your videos all the time in my training process for new volunteers. You do such a great job explaining complex ideas!! Thanks a bunch!!

@collabworship

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Luke! I really appreciate the kind words. -Kade

A better way is HA8000. 8 people can have their individual mix, then just run a 1/4 inch extension cable to each musician and connect your earbuds. And boom, 8x personal monitor mixes. All for around 200$

@andrewneil7748

4 жыл бұрын

The HA8000 doesn't have the facility that Kade is relying on here to combine an individual input with a common monitor mix. To use the HA8000, you need 8 separate monitor feeds (buses or AUX sends) to feed it. We do exactly this.

@collabworship

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely a great solution if you have enough available bus mixes for everyone. Thanks, David!

I set our team up about 14 years ago with this exact setup. It worked great and solved a lot of stage volume issues. Inexpensive, and gave everyone a "more me" knob. I had the band working off one mix and singers off a different mix. Everyone had to find the earbuds that worked for them, but after that, it worked great!

@collabworship

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, Curtis!

An alternative to the Whirlwind Split 6 is to use a Rolls PS16 Power Center for PM Series Personal Monitors. rolls.com/product/PS16 This provides a mono monitor signal plus power to 4 PM50s or PM351 using TRS cables or 8 using Y TRS cables. It has the added advantage of removing the need for individual power supplies for the PM50s and PM351 devices.

@collabworship

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for the recommendation, Craig.

Thank you so much for the video. It was very helpful. If possible could you check out the Phenyx PTM-10s & do a review on these. Thank you for considering this request.

hey kade love your channel. wanted to share another inexpensive solution we use. Since this channels all about the x32. We currently run 8 seperate mixes to a beringer 8 channel head phone amp and then from there to 8 berhinger powerplay 1s. the whole set up cost like $250 bus and works great!

@collabworship

4 жыл бұрын

Great solution. Thanks for sharing this, Jeremy!

Hi Kade. Thanks for this video, it gives me some good ideas. Question though, since we already have separate monitor mixes going to each musician, can we simply omit the splitter for the musos and go straight to the personal amp? Is there a better amp option too? I'm thinking that the splitter would work well for the vocalists though? Thanks

@andrewneil7748

4 жыл бұрын

If you already have the separate mixes, an HA8000 is cheaper for anything more than 2 channels.

@collabworship

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Michael - I agree with these guys. Since you already have separate monitor mixes, you just need something like the HA8000. If you need musicians/vocalists to share a monitor mix but still have some individual control, that is when you'll use the solution talked about in this video.

Hi Kade! First of all, please excuse me my english, i,m a russianspeaking, I wanna thank you for your help for churches, its really helps us in our worship. I,m interested in your Behringer X32 mastery, and I wanna ask you, is that video-course or it also is in text version? Because its hard for me to translate your video.. Thanks a lot....

@collabworship

4 жыл бұрын

X32 Mastery is a video-based course, but I'd be more than happy to provide the transcripts to help the learning experience. -Kade

If you split the same bus to several headphone amps, the musicians will hear the same mix. The differential is when they also plug their instruments on the input, right? Won't this cause a daley issue?

@collabworship

4 жыл бұрын

You are correct. An no, it does not cause a delay issue. I'm sure there is a slight delay in there, but I've never noticed it when using this setup.

Cool concept, but a little scary to run in ears without a protective limiter.

@collabworship

4 жыл бұрын

That's a great point, John. It would be wise to add a limited to the shared bus/aux mix to protect musicians ears.

im looking forward one of your videos will have an "ACTUAL TUTORIAL SET UP" instead of talking only..cheers..God Bless..