"Sir, the MRE armor is very practical and necessary, trust me, it'll protect us. The missing ones? Yeah...."

@PlayscaleSoldierProductions

10 ай бұрын

😂

@batterythunder

10 ай бұрын

One comment? Let me fix that

@petersmulders8058

10 ай бұрын

At the very least it provided moral

@wilfredrowanserilo3234

10 ай бұрын

me:*casually eating some armor*

@Lxk3ez

10 ай бұрын

@@batterythundershut up. You’re really not cool

Imagine being a German tank crew and seeing a Sherman tank covered in furniture

@WaukWarrior360

10 ай бұрын

Willhelm would be side eying the cope cages on their Panzer 4

@exceptionalanimations1508

9 ай бұрын

"Hans, ze couch panzer 12o' clock!"

@winter15motivation44

9 ай бұрын

Franz shot it on turret No way it's gona hurt crew But flush them out

@jamesjesse9773

9 ай бұрын

The Ikea tank 😆

@Spixy01

9 ай бұрын

This is how I imagine Swedish tanks if they have Ikea as their armament partner

"General Patton was not a fan of..." Yeah sounds about right

@cameronbartlett856

8 ай бұрын

What's more impressive is that he approved something.

@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305

7 ай бұрын

Well ge was right... sandbags weigh a ton and wont help stop a shell going through it. He was a fan of adding more ARMOR

@Chuked

7 ай бұрын

​@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305crews did whatever they could with the crude and limited resources.. the push into France and Germany happened so quickly and the Allies experienced heavy casualties

@Chopstorm.

7 ай бұрын

​​@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305A lot of makeshift armor (such as track links) would often normalize the trajectory of incoming shells, causing them to become _more_ effective at piercing the armor by negating the benefits of armor slopes. Patton was absolutely right.

@marketablepresentations7824

7 ай бұрын

​@@Chopstorm.Yeah old blood and guts wasn't riding in that tank though😂😂😂

"But Patton, this armor is ballin'."

@Anish-Kumar-Verma

6 ай бұрын

😂

@KennethSells

4 ай бұрын

*mean while the tank: covered in balls* patton: fuck he's not wrong

@garmenlin5990

3 ай бұрын

And I'm sure Patton would have slapped that soldier for calling him just Patton, without rank or sir, knowing him ego

@Panzer_Runner

Ай бұрын

"Yeah you right, this tank is W from Ohio, carry on"

@Panzer_Runner

Ай бұрын

​@@garmenlin5990commenter's mistake

I don't blame them for not wanting a painful fiery death.

@elchicogore9517

10 ай бұрын

@@jakemckeown9459 Bro how does some people like you act like kids

@n0name275

10 ай бұрын

​@@jakemckeown9459hyyyy how ya doin ya old troll.

@vonRubbentroph

10 ай бұрын

​@@jakemckeown9459man get to edgy ass outta here

@__-vu3bv

10 ай бұрын

@@elchicogore9517 I also do

@PlayscaleSoldierProductions

9 ай бұрын

​@@elchicogore9517They are the top 10 Edgelords of history.

Patton just didn't like that the soldiers had premium skins and he was stuck using the default

@peasantfarmerr8917

9 ай бұрын

Blud hasn't bought premium 😵

@matteaspennachio6547

9 ай бұрын

World War 2 Plus@@peasantfarmerr8917

@NoahTravit

9 ай бұрын

​@peasantfarmerr8917 Ooooh premium soo special.

@alienalchemist

9 ай бұрын

General Patton? Is that the same guy who scolds his men because they're look unkempt, and prefer that they shave and buttoned up their uniform?

@matteaspennachio6547

9 ай бұрын

General Patton, the man who realised his men were fighting on the wrong front.@@alienalchemist

the ordnance branch did a study in ww2 that found the add on armor could sometimes even help a round penetrate the tank and/or it was pretty much useless. ..but at the bottom of the study it said basically "but the troops find it to be very effective and the moral boost is worth the extra weight"

@atashgallagher5139

7 ай бұрын

The sandbags please the machine spirits and so we keep it on. It's perfectly reasonable.

@redcell9636

7 ай бұрын

The "Rule of Cool" applied much more.

@BigShotsEric

7 ай бұрын

this is true @@redcell9636

@icecold1805

7 ай бұрын

The thing is Patton never understood the concept of moral. He was puzzled by the notion his men were human beings with emotions

@texastristan751

7 ай бұрын

Except it would help with panzershreck and panzerfaust rounds and depending on the caliber he rounds they only tested against big caliber rounds and mainly ap

Patton : don’t cover in wood Patton: use the bodies of your enemies

@xraystudios3693

5 ай бұрын

That's actually not a bad idea, but probably a war crime 😂

@kaybevang536

4 ай бұрын

@@xraystudios3693not a war crime if you won the war !!!!

@xraystudios3693

4 ай бұрын

@@kaybevang536 It's entirely dependent on what the media says

@HentsSauce

4 ай бұрын

@@xraystudios3693 How though? They're already dead?

@xraystudios3693

4 ай бұрын

@@HentsSauce idk but wearing disguises is a war crime and so is using hallow point bullets. War crimes doesn't necessarily mean horrible things, sometimes its some wierd rules by bureaucrats

As a tanker, I concur. We sure hate dying flaming, fiery, painful, deaths inside steel coffins. *Take it from me: Appliqué armor your tanks.*

@MrMoo7305

10 ай бұрын

Take my sub.

@creeperzoid2639

10 ай бұрын

more like tank it from me

@Zanelander

10 ай бұрын

As a Scout I am obligated to disprove this message!

@kevinm.n.5158

10 ай бұрын

Having a premium subscription to War Thunder doesnt make you a tanker bud (jk)

@angryeliteultragree6329

10 ай бұрын

@@kevinm.n.5158 damn you guessed it. But all I did was buy bushes

“We dont have enough armor!” “Cut down a couple trees” “What?” “Just do it”

@RamadaArtist

10 ай бұрын

Or: "We don't have enough armor!" "Eh, shoot your friends and take it from them." "WHAT?!" "Or wait for them to die normally. Look, it's what Patton wants, okay?"

@tabbycat406

9 ай бұрын

@thenachosaurus4609aren’t sticks flammable?

@PugtasticGamer

9 ай бұрын

Italy Sadie f@&$ it and put gasoline

@matthew_natividad

8 ай бұрын

And add these sandbags

@nurrjannah9025

5 ай бұрын

Flame does jackshit to tanks thats mf'in goofy ass skinny as stick competkng againstt literal rolled homogenous armour ​@@tabbycat406

My grandpa served under Patton. He died a good few years ago but he was always so quiet until just before he died when he opened up about it. Was part of Normandy. Absolutely incredible. I miss him. I was too young to realize why I should have spent more time with him. I regret it a lot.

@ewrgaming

6 ай бұрын

My grandpa served in the navy on a minesweeper ship from 1942-1945 and sailed off the coast of Japan. I never got to hear his stories since he died in 2009 when I was 8, but my dad’s an army Vietnam vet who worked with HVAC on Danang airbase in 1969 and I’ve heard his stories all my life. Some of my fondest childhood memories are of my dad telling me about guard duty and some of the antics he was involved in. I’m an army global war on terrorism vet as well, I think it’s funny that I served during a war that essentially started when I was a month old in September 2001 lol.

@flight2k5

5 ай бұрын

Patton wasn’t at d-day

@Brandon-ch2ot

4 ай бұрын

As a father myself don't worry bro he was just happy to be around you with the time he had left. No regrets

I just strap jerry cans to my m22 locust in war thunder and call it ERA

Regardless of whether it worked or not. I personally think it gave tank crew confidents and higher morale and that itself is worth it for the soldiers.

@man-uk8cz

10 ай бұрын

While it didn't work against conventional Anti-tank rounds, sandbags did do a good job in protecting against shaped charges such as a panzerfaust.

@jaydeleon8094

10 ай бұрын

logs and wood in general would do the same job, be lighter, and easier to replace. Patton seemingly only disliked sandbags as additional armor since its massive chunk of weight for very little use. The armor plates, spare tracks and wood were all approved in the 3rd army.@@man-uk8cz

@man-uk8cz

9 ай бұрын

@@jaydeleon8094 Yeah makes sense, im just trying to provide that the sandbags werent entirely dead weight & provided a small advantage against ground units armed with light anti tank weapons. Not a particularly great one though, like you did say logs significantly was more effective in stopping power.

@jaydeleon8094

9 ай бұрын

@@man-uk8cz yeah you could get the same protection with scrap wood planks and similar, for a fraction of the weight. People just seem to not know what the hell a fuse is.

@asbestos1502

9 ай бұрын

@@man-uk8cz I could believe sandbags helping against man-portable HEAT weapons, but there are certain things that don't work, for example Soviet "cope cages", which actually made the Panzerfaust's warhead more effective because of that little bit of extra space

A Sherman wearing the face of a dead Tiger or Panther for armor sounds so fucking cool

@TheGreatThicc

9 ай бұрын

You are gonna love the Super Pershing then. Thing was up armoured by the crew welding pieces of a knocked out Panther to the front of the hull and turret.

@cowerdnerddespacito9518

9 ай бұрын

@@TheGreatThicc yup! The super Pershing comes to mind when thinking of wearing the enemy’s face!

@Federationursa

8 ай бұрын

Your not gonna love m18 hellcat cuz it can one shot by german tanks like tiger, panther and Panzer IV ausf H/J but some you love it cuz it can one shot to Panzer IV, panther,TIGER 1/panzerkampfwagen VI

@cowerdnerddespacito9518

8 ай бұрын

@@Federationursa I don’t think you worded that properly

@Federationursa

8 ай бұрын

@@cowerdnerddespacito9518 we maybe knowed that I'm not worded properly

> be me > part of tank crew > scared of fiery death > idea.jpg > put additional armour on the tank > look at the fireproof armour my comrades put on the tank > its wood > mfw

@Zyzarda

6 ай бұрын

they're afraid of a tank shell filling the crew compartment with spalling , not the tank catching on fire. you misinterpreted.

@exoticbreadstick8661

4 күн бұрын

@@Zyzarda it's a joke. you misinterpreted.

The additional armor plates basically made sherman + sherman = Tiger level armour 😂

Guaranteed as soon as Patton left that tank crew they were cursing him up and down and sure as hell weren’t gonna take those bags off lmfao

@jophiohip

8 ай бұрын

There are actually cases where the addition of armor made the tank perform worse and get destroyed more easiliy, atleast im pretty sure the concrete one made the armor worse than without it, if i remember the information correct from another video.

@Militariadude08

7 ай бұрын

@@jophiohipthe concrete on the front of the tank would help stabilize any incoming rounds and therefore remove some of the advantage that the Sherman’s angled armored had

@jophiohip

7 ай бұрын

@@Militariadude08 thanks for the addion of this info :) !

@martinmorsch7507

7 ай бұрын

Yeah. Also Tracklinks, horrible for the survivability. Made the armor signifficantly weaker. @@jophiohip

@amopastorcanadense

7 ай бұрын

​@@martinmorsch7507who said tank track made it worse ????you totally mistaken, some german tanks even put their tracks in front for the benefict of extra armour

Imagine you hear BRING OUT THE DREADNOUGHT and it’s just a Sherman with an insane amount of armor plating welded on.

@Necoy666

9 ай бұрын

That's literally the Jumbo.

@AugmentedGravity

8 ай бұрын

Sabaton

@mretidk6715

8 ай бұрын

@@Necoy666they mean more than that not just a second layer of armor on top

@cookiekid0014

8 ай бұрын

@@AugmentedGravity unopposed under crimson skies

@AugmentedGravity

8 ай бұрын

@@cookiekid0014 IMMORTALISED

"With all due respect, sir, you don't have to worry about dying."

Extra armor plating turned the tanks into Mad Max or Death Race lol

I mean they look sick as hell

@wiking3520

10 ай бұрын

Dying in one looks sick too

@thecamocampaindude5167

9 ай бұрын

Like a bunker

@tonypeppermint5329

9 ай бұрын

I would love to see a game featuring tanks that allow you to scavenge the land around you to put on parts to the tank.

@Veloxlai

9 ай бұрын

@@tonypeppermint5329 Great idea, thank you.

@SinatraTarantino

9 ай бұрын

GMOD@@tonypeppermint5329

Some of that armor is equivalent to orks painting their vehicles blue

@Lordofhollows15

6 ай бұрын

I mean the color purple worked well I still can't find those fuckers

Patton wasn’t the one watching his shells harmlessly bounce off the fronts of German tanks.

@ComeAndTakeIt9235

3 ай бұрын

It’s only the panther and king tiger that the Sherman had trouble penetrating

I went to a museum abaout ww2 once. Saw a hetzer with half of its cabin armour missing (like if the exterior just half disappeared). I wondered if that was an ammo cookoff or something, but it was too cleanly cut for it to be one. Now I understand, thanks.

Ah yes, the notorious "Free Wifi" wooden armor.

@KnownNiche1999

8 ай бұрын

I think they used it against some specific type of weaponry, meaning the wooden protection on those police vehicles actually made sense

@vondantalingting

8 ай бұрын

Its for RPG-2/7's lol. Especially the older ones that nobody believes would even work.

@austria5892

8 ай бұрын

the free wifi inscription was humurously written by the philippine army ifvs during the siege of marawi. They used wooden boards as spaced armor as enemies are using rpg 7s and typical grenade launchers which the army is also usiNg. There were no widespread use of sophisticated atgms.

@detectivv

8 ай бұрын

​@@austria5892RPG 2's, not RPG 7's.

@michaelkevinmirasol8256

8 ай бұрын

​​@@austria5892 the Maute terrorist group uses obsolete RPG-2s. There were no RPG-7s used by the terrorist. And BTW the Army's Scout Rangers used RPG-7s bought from Bulgaria for the first time in Philippine combat, but only as bunker busting weapon than anti-tank.

It's actually kind of cute that you have this little band of dudes going along in a tank, customizing it with whatever random stuff they can find. It's like those crabs that attach stuff to their shells.

@EEEEEEEE

8 ай бұрын

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@Skibidi_sigma_pomni420

7 ай бұрын

Bro fr said their fear of having a slow, fiery and painful death on a metal coffin while trying to keep their mind together while they struggle to survive in a literal hellscape is cute

@TheGreenKnight500

7 ай бұрын

@@Skibidi_sigma_pomni420 It's brotherhood man. They're in it together, fighting the good fight

@Skibidi_sigma_pomni420

7 ай бұрын

@@TheGreenKnight500 yeah

@jamesleonard7439

7 ай бұрын

​@@TheGreenKnight500Yeah and burning up together, aren't wars great, not.

Some of these tanks look like someone pulled a strong magnet over a factory floor!

Concrete on a sloped armor was the worst thing to do.

Meanwhile in WT shooting someone point blank range "No penetration"

@redmonkey4866

9 ай бұрын

bro iove wt

@razortheonethelight7303

9 ай бұрын

@@redmonkey4866 I know why but I still got to ask, why?

@user-wx1iv1fw3d

9 ай бұрын

150pen Face 45 side armor

@scorchclasstitan6727

9 ай бұрын

That’s why I uninstalled that POS, gunner heat PC will end up putting them out of business, anyone who thinks other wise is a wallet warrior snail simp.

@maciekGTR

9 ай бұрын

​@@scorchclasstitan6727sounds like a skill issue

The issue of putting "soft material", but more so, soft metals like a track... is that it could help an Armor Piercing round "bite" into something and align it's trajectory to actually damage the tank when it would have otherwise bounce. "Spaced armor" the one approved by Patton actually works since it doesn't present that issue. Or so I was told.

@temper.temper

8 ай бұрын

Hmm

@l.a.wright6912

8 ай бұрын

It's not spaced armour just additional add on armour. Spaced armour refers to armour ofset from the vehicles to protect against various lesser forms of munitions

@lk_t5811

8 ай бұрын

@@l.a.wright6912brother spaced armor is for heat rounds/shaped charges

@l.a.wright6912

8 ай бұрын

@lk_t5811 no it originally was made for anti tank rifle rounds. It was just later found to be effective against shaped charges. What I was pointing out was that Patton did not discover this or even test it. He tested add on armour which is different. Op mixed up the two

@GreasyBeasty

8 ай бұрын

​@@l.a.wright6912the armor add-on shown was spaced, so, idk why you're getting defensive over something you yourself didn't work on nor Patented (pardon the pun).

"One mans trash is another mans armor" -Patton (probably)

Patton was a smart guy, he got to a general position!

I love Patton, but sometimes the guys digging the ditches should choose the shovels

@medicodyssey

10 ай бұрын

My sentiments exactly. Though in this case it would be, like, modifying the handle to be more comfortable or something.

@BattleAxe1345

10 ай бұрын

A diesel loves her oil same as a sailor loves rum

@paralyzedtortoise8446

10 ай бұрын

Patton was right in the end - sandbags and logs especially provided basically nil armor for a non-insubstantial weight, slowing the tanks down (which in turn made them more vulnerable.)

@ryanlusby569

10 ай бұрын

@@maltewernerwoiske the logs weren't there for armor. They were lashed to the tread to act as "feet" for better mobility.

@Riceball01

10 ай бұрын

@@paralyzedtortoise8446 Not to mention that in some cases it put extra strain on the suspension.

"Grab your tools! reuse these destroyed tank's armour!"

Sherman after extra armor upgrade:king tiger level armor

you don't have extra protection? There's a Sherman for that.

Just throwing random crap you may find just makes the tank have... 🌟Personality🌟

@exceptionalanimations1508

9 ай бұрын

Personality is everything you don't see any dead tanks covered in extra armor

I BELIEVE THAT IS MY GREAT GRANDFATHER! He told me a story about being yelled at by Patton after spending all day welding and on armor. He was 14th armored division c company and he was the youngest nco in the entire western theater of war. A company made a model out of this photo and they sent me the research to their photo and it was my great grandfathers tank company! Rip, love you and miss you ❤️

@lemedic5239

9 ай бұрын

Getting scolded by patton himself, mustve been one hell of a story

@jestermugendi

9 ай бұрын

DDDDAAAAAAMMMMMMMMEEEEEE WE GOT THE GUY!!!!!!

@GlitchedBlox

9 ай бұрын

we got the guy!!

@JoeSmith-qy6qo

9 ай бұрын

that happened

@JoeSmith-qy6qo

8 ай бұрын

@@benjaminfitzgerald2037 nuh uh

Getting yelled at while sitting in your tank covered in sandbags mustve felt pretty silly 😂

The U.S. military is known to use this man’s jaw line alone to pierce the enemy battle line

@Isaac-muntz

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

During the last months of the war in Europe when the Germans were essentially out of gas, man-portable anti-tank weapons like the panzerfaust and the panzerschreck became a major threat, particularly in close quarters such as towns and villages where the Western Allies were reluctant to initiate an attack. Both of these man-portable AT weapons relied on the Monroe effect to breach armor without the high kinetic energy provided by conventional AT artillery. G.I. improvised armor was reasonably effective against them, whereas such measures did little against the few operable and well-positioned Panthers and Tigers remaining to the Wehrmacht except to slow down the Sherman and make it even more vulnerable.

@MUJUNKY

9 ай бұрын

Some of it was, like the proper plates that were welded on to the tanks. The Third Army did a study during the war about it, along with several other US formations and found that most logs and sandbags added to tanks only made the panzerfaust more effective. Now you can call conflict of interest, Patton hated messy soldiers and equipment, but post-war testing of HEAT warheads showed the same results they and others got. The reason is because the early warheads didn't have any built in stand-off range like modern ones do. It was found that on average the panzerfaust performed better with a short gap between the armor. The sandbags would be literally blown away by the blast of the explosives in the shaped charge, leaving a mostly clear shot to the armor only a few inches beneath. The logs splintered easily under the same blast. The metal plates provided a solid, rigid surface that the jet had to punch through first, before reaching the main armor and thus wasting energy. There is a problem here too, unless the plate was angled, and had nine inches of backing with something like sand or concrete, this also made the panzerfaust more dangerous. British tests suggested that single angled plates would need to provide THIRTY inches of stand off for benefit, meaning the tank would become almost five feet wider and the driver would be absolutely blinded by a massive chunk of steel in the way. This is getting too long, but to add the caveat here, if the panzerfaust/schreck warhead hit at a sharp angle, sometimes there was enough stand off range to help. The sandbags did occasionally result in deflections that otherwise would have hit and penetrated. Neither of these effects justified the 10-20% increase in penetration power, because at too little of an angle, it meant the weapon would penetrate the armor when it normally wouldn't have. It turned out the best way to avoid getting hit with a german rocket was to have the infantry in front, calling out targets to the tanks before they got within the hundred meter range of the panzerfaust. If you can't tell, I have too much free time on my hands.

@calanon534

9 ай бұрын

@@MUJUNKY Thank you for explaining about the same as what I was going to explain.

@JoeXTheXJuggalo1

9 ай бұрын

I remember hearing a story a German told about when he was in the Hit-ler Youth. Him and his buddies would take out tanks with panzerfaust. He said one day his friend was running across the street to get a better look and angle on the tank down the street. As his friend was crossing the street the tank shot a round right between his friends legs.

A wartike study showed that increased combat performance due to it making crews feels safer despite not helping actually protect them. Personally though, I like Patton's approach. He didnt bar them from adding armor, he only wanted to add *real* armor so they could gain actual protection.

@confusedman8065

7 ай бұрын

It's a placebo that doesn't add protection but boosts morale, a concept Patton somehow couldn't grasp

@willcullen3743

6 ай бұрын

The us and german army both did studies and came to the same conclusion. To provide real world protection at medium ranges the armor values of the tanks would have to more than double making them effectively immobile.

@Malaka_013

6 ай бұрын

The tankers would have preferred real additional armor too, but this doesnt exactly grow on trees, so they just improvised with what they had

That's why the nicknamed the M60 tank "Patton" as a sign of respect

I think the Super Pershing takes the cake for slapping armour plating on to tanks. On its mantlet, the crew litterally welded the front plate of a German panther onto it, and then got 2 boiler plates and welded them onto the front hul.

That is just the most Patton thing ever. Great general, but a nasty boss.

I think the Chieftain recently did a video on this and it boiled down to the armour either being not very effective (sandbags) or needing too much to be effective (concrete). However the psychological benefits were so great that they allowed the crews to modify their tanks like this. If the crew felt safe they were likely to fight better.

Thats badass imagine a welder in ww2 welding random scrap on his tank

ngl the crew that welded damaged armor salvaged from damaged tanks is genius

Wasn't Patton a asshole in..general?

@Miguel_Sacraaa

10 ай бұрын

I dunno

@VikingTeddy

10 ай бұрын

Yes, a complete and utter bastard by contemporary accounts. Churchill was another famous asshole. Except he was also dangerously incompetent. By incredible luck, he stumbled ass backwards to the right place at the right time.

@sheevpalpoutine

10 ай бұрын

Yes

@MNM-lq9te

10 ай бұрын

But he knew what he was talking about when it came to adding protection to their tanks. And it was true that they added to much weight and didn't provide more protection. So asshole or not for certain things he sure was a genius.

@medicodyssey

10 ай бұрын

​@@MNM-lq9te I can understand the logs, but every other method seen besides maybe track linking seems like welding on more armor would be more effective. Maybe it just didn't cross people's minds to do that. Logs would be pretty easy to do and also had other practical uses, but the frames to throw on sand bags and concrete would have to be custom welded and attached, and tank tracks would have to have been scrounged somehow.

Bro really said "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" 💀

“Fuck it, If you you want additional armor, it must be metal!” -General Patton

We strapped extra sapi plates to our Strikers in Iraq. I guess we were unwittingly adding to a long-standing tradition.

Most of these Sherman modifications would lead to the Sherman Jumbo, which is the heavily armored Sherman variant used by the US in WWII

@robertmaybeth3434

9 ай бұрын

There was an upgrade mod made to the T-55 tanks of the Warsaw pact armies, that added some simple spaced armor around the turret. When NATO got a chance to look at one such tank they were amazed to find this spaced armor was hollow inside! But later, when they got a chance to test such a tank with NATO anti-tank rockets, it was found this simple hollow armor was actually quite effective against many man-portable anti-tank weapons and was able to prevent many of them from penetrating the turret.

During the Marawi Siege here in the Philippines our military kinda did the same against the RPGs of The Maute Group (Isis inspired group.) they added wood, and other materials to thicken their armor. Some legends even Painted "Free Wifi" on them.

@Charles-A

5 ай бұрын

That was actually effective against the early RPG 3 warheads, but if it came to actual protection against AT shells from other tanks, the protection was marginal at best compared to all the additional weight

@nikolaideianov5092

4 ай бұрын

​@@Charles-Athey were useing rpg 2 not 3 and if im not wrong used cheap HE vertions not HEAT

@Charles-A

4 ай бұрын

@@nikolaideianov5092 Thanks for the clarification

i am really a fan of these additional armor, it provide not only some kind of protection but it gives personality to the tank

Looked like patton had some extra armor plating on him too.

I was a modern US Tanker in the Abrams and we have carried on my traditions of the WW2 Tanker. My favorite was the tanker boots, during WW2 the US tank crews saw the infantry boots were falling off the infantrymans feet so in order to help out the tankers took their laces off their boots and gave them to the infantry. The tankers then used their belts to fasten their boots. Thus the tanker boots were born. Tradition holds that unless you deploy on your tank with your crew OR Q1 on qualification with your crew on your tank you can't wear the tanker boots. Most all tankers if we someone wearing tanker boots and they didn't earn them we hold them down and cut the straps.

@josephahner3031

9 ай бұрын

That boot "tradition" was made up whole cloth sometime in the 90s. Prior to that only the 2nd Lieutenant had to earn his boots because he had not surmounted Misery, Agony, and Heartbreak like the rest of the tankers did at Fort Knox.

The Germans actually scientifically tested weird improvised armor like sandbags and concrete and even track links and found them to have no significant added protection against armor piercing ammunition

@CSRI

8 ай бұрын

The biggest advantage of sandbags to the Sherman was to prevent the small arm rockets like the panzerfaust from instantly being able to destroy an early m4 model since they had terrible ammo protection

@backpackpepelon3867

8 ай бұрын

The Russian did too, but they still add random stuff cause it give the tank crew extra courage to rush forward. You can say these stuff is like the fancy skin that add zero armor value, but add mental strength.

@liampett1313

8 ай бұрын

​@@CSRIexcept a panzerfaust crew would never be stupid enough to attack the front of the tank. The main addition was moral support to the crew.

@rustyshackleford7470

8 ай бұрын

Sand bags for the driver may protect from small arms when he's open hatched

@Doc_Paradox

8 ай бұрын

​@@CSRIunfortunately it had the opposite effect. DOD ran tests and found it actually helped the early heat projectiles fuze easier. But seeing the morale boost it provided they decided to withhold this information

Knowing Patton he probably didn't like improvised armor because it wasn't fashionable enough.

Rest easy Patton your tank is still sitting strong I use to play on it as a kid

that tank crew must’ve gotten PaTtonSD after that scolding lol

0 effectiveness. all they did was put some clotches on the sherman.

that actually sounds like a cool feature to have in a battlefield game

Those tropes who were in combat understood how to survive in combat did what they needed to do to live.

I believe this was from The Chieftain but the improved protection using sandbags, wooden planks or track does more harm than protection against enemy shells.

@Doc_Paradox

8 ай бұрын

Not shells but heat projectiles like the many AT launchers available at the time

@pecetabla8042

8 ай бұрын

​@@Doc_Paradoxand also the shells, because it's too soft to bounce the shells, so it would either lead it much closer to a 90° armor hit than it should've hit without it, or nothing changes, which still means they are dead

@amopastorcanadense

7 ай бұрын

Man you should have warned german tanks that put tracks in front of it as part of extra armour.Ex:Panzer IV and Tiger.They did this for pure added armour

@amopastorcanadense

7 ай бұрын

​@@pecetabla8042when you put couple inches of armour on alrrady flat surface, it stays flat or 90 degrees, thats why Panzer IV has track in front of it, extra armour

Concrete would actually help incoming shells penetrate, as it would act like a ballistic cap for the shell

Patton: You telling you put actual armor on your tank instead of Logs and sandbags? FINALLY!

I’m just imagining Patton going over to a Sherman crew being like a teacher that scolds you in the hall and saying “guys what the hell!? We’re fighting a war here not doing arts and crafts!”

Patton may have been right for more reasons than that. A fact I've heard (but haven't checked, so take it with a grain of salt) is that add-ons like logs and sandbags could actually help an incoming shell penetrate angled armor by helping it normalize against the angle, similar to how the cap on a capped AP shell works.

@scottydog1313

10 ай бұрын

Tests conducted had shown that did happen. It was even worse for HEAT rounds from panzerfausts, since it made them much less likely to deflect,. It also increased the standoff distance to a more optimal location that made penetration of the actual armor easier. .

@GamerLoff

8 ай бұрын

Maybe the moron could’ve pushed for better equipment for his soldiers that actually died obeying his command than scolding them for wanting to not die.

@scottydog1313

8 ай бұрын

If you bothered to do any research, you would know that he did just that. Patton was a big believer in improvements that actually worked, like adding on additional armor plate. He instructed that add on armor plate from wrecked tanks be salvaged and and used.

@voxthesergal

8 ай бұрын

​@@scottydog1313W.. What..? You know how HEAT works, right? A chicken wire mesh could prevent Heat from penetration. Besides, German tanks mostly used APHE, some variants also opting for BC, however there were very few variants that utilized HEAT. Now the STUG and STUH assault guns did, and were common ambush tanks. They'd have a hard time with a log equipped Sherman.

Many years agp I worked with an old guy who drove a tank during WW2.he got injured twice the second time in a sheeran and both times he was injured by the Americans. So whether it be enemy of friendly fire tank drivers were definitely worried about a firey death. He also said you could tell a reintroduced tank by the smell of the tank.

@prvt.harumi6821

9 ай бұрын

Injured by the americans while as a driver for an american tank? I doubt it

@mechsgtpuma938

9 ай бұрын

@@prvt.harumi6821 you never heard of friendly fire in the fog of war. Unfortunately it happened alot during WW2. Plus I had no reason to disbelieve the guy especially with the scares he had.

@prvt.harumi6821

9 ай бұрын

@@mechsgtpuma938 friendly fire zwo times , and two times by his Platon? I call bs. One is already a low chance , and twice almost impossible. Wither youve got one of the unluckiest grandparents ever or youre making shit up

@mechsgtpuma938

9 ай бұрын

@@prvt.harumi6821 firstly i said he was someone i worked withand not my grandparent. I had no reason to disbelieve him. Secondly why would he lie about sothing like that. Unfortunately in war thede are many many unlucky people and the fact he made it home with the injuries he sustained id say lucky. If you choose to disbelieve thats your progrative. I have been very privaged to meet many WW2 veterans from those who served in France, Netherlands, Germany, Singapore and Burma as well the Atlantic campaign as well. I believe everything they told me what reason is there to lie.

@robertmaybeth3434

9 ай бұрын

I'm guessing you're already familiar with the book "Death-traps" that is all about the Sherman's vulnerabilities -

M4A3: *exists* *welds plate to the already existing front plate* construction complete: *M4A3E2*

Being a jumbo main, I agree that the extra armour plate is very effective at making tiger player want to commit sudoku.

At least he scolded them for being inefficient rather than just trying to stay alive.

@YeprilesteR

9 ай бұрын

So true, I mean, we only have one shot

👍 I love history. The only channel I actually binge.

Now I just imagine a tank shooting an enemy tank and driving over to loot it like it’s pubg

Every time I hear the name Patton I think of Papa Nichols from Drake and Josh. "General Patton sir! I've just been captured by two German nerds!"

German tankers: *uses skirt armor to stop enemy rounds* American tankers: *uses logs, track links, sand bags, and concrete to stop enemy rounds* Soviet tankers: *uses infantry to stop enemy rounds*

@sskuk1095

22 күн бұрын

This joke never gets old!

“We need armor so we don’t burn to death” “Sir, where do you want me to put the firewood?” “Perfect”

that welded on armor plating would actually be really good since it made spaced armor

Squad leader fuming after his guys got smoked by GENERAL PATTON

They just need to unlock track armor

Kid you give me hope for the younger generations. Keep up the good work. And make sure your doing your pushups

@Hondaone1

10 ай бұрын

He's one in several billion nowadays doubt there's much hope for the future

@enlightenedpreparingep4006

10 ай бұрын

@@Hondaone1 sadly I believe your right

@WaukWarrior360

10 ай бұрын

​@@Hondaone1How many wars did your generation lose? You grew fat and took too much

@dallas9397

10 ай бұрын

@@enlightenedpreparingep4006don't, he's a pessimist and pessimists are the downfall of humanity.

@tak2975

10 ай бұрын

​@@Hondaone1every generation thinks that its better than the one before and the new one

That soldered extra armour was pretty good I bet, it's spaced armour after all

I've certainly seem photos of many of these ''applique armors'' from WWII, but this is the first I've heard of Patton's opinions on the subject. Thank you very much!

As an Ex-Soviet Tanker I can safely say that ERA back when Russia was a threat it was great not seeing HEAT penetrate my fuel tanks and give me 3rd degree burns on my right leg

Another instance that makes me like patton, he stopped them from strapping logs on for armor and made them use metal bits from dead tanks which was vastly better

@thetalkativetank7032

9 ай бұрын

Super pershing moment

@ric270

9 ай бұрын

"you idiots use metal not wood" -general Patton

@velenteriushendeneros3251

9 ай бұрын

Logs were a nice piece of kit to have actually. It kinda maybe helped against panzerfausts and stuff as well.

“Sir, respectfully pound sand” Or “Wanna switch jobs?”

Tbh the sandbags on the M1 Sherman Looks f-ing amazing

“Oh look at the little tank omg look awww they’re stuck should we help them awww they also have sandbags the tank looks so cute awww”

@GojoTSB

10 ай бұрын

What. the. actual. fuck

@textik5821

10 ай бұрын

what?

@thogging

9 ай бұрын

@@textik5821 seeing a tank being protected by various objects would probably make more people want to kill the tank crew in a painful way

Patton was right too. A German 75 won’t care if you have an extra few inches of sand or track. If it was a clean hit, it’ll go right through. Spaced or appliqué is the way.

@ajduong

9 ай бұрын

But, it could definitely improve troop morale. The cost of a little more fuel could pail in comparison to the improved fighting spirits you'd get

@Thrainite

9 ай бұрын

Can't argue with that. While I was in the Army I'd have probably looked at the general and been like "uh huh". The second he'd leave I'd have duct taped or welded boiler plates to the front and sides. lol@@ajduong

@tarnvedra9952

9 ай бұрын

@@ajduong Fuel consumption is the smallest issue. Transmission failure is not, also in case of spare tracks you are making you protection worse by providing enemy shells nice and soft normalization layer so they can straighten up on impact.

@ric270

9 ай бұрын

​@@ajduongbut the cost of speed is not, the advantage of a Sherman was it's maneuverability, adding hundreds or even thousands of pounds of weight was just getting rid of you advantage and increasing your Odds of death

@charchadonto

9 ай бұрын

@@ajduong The benefit morale. The cost. Increased wear and tear on the transmission and brakes, larger strain on the engine, reduced top speed, worse ground pressure for driving over mud and potentially getting the tank stuck where it normaly wouldn't have been, lower fuelefficiency. Not to mention, a false sense of security, thinking you are now protected vs a hit while in reality your chance of survival has not increased.

"if you are going to die you will die pretty" is pretty much what he said

Painful firry death sound likes an battalion of Stug III is approaching.

General Patton was born in the wrong universe he was meant for warhammer for fucking real

Video games tell me that the angle of the metal plates were just as important as the thickness. The addition plates being angled seem better than sandbags that might help enemy fire find purchase on the tank. But as someone who's not military and only seen tanks from a distance, in videos, and in games I would trust the experienced soldiers over what I think I know.

@medicodyssey

10 ай бұрын

Unsure what the Ballistics on sandbags are (I know they're good at stopping small arms) but they might be like a reactive armor in the case that it absorbs the initial impact and helps to slow down the round enough so that when it hits the actual armor, it has a better chance of deflecting or just flat out not penning.

@wingsoficarus1139

10 ай бұрын

I dont think the average soldier in the 40s has as much knowledge as the average highschooler in the 2020s considering the amount of research in basic physics thats happened since.

@UpToSpeedOnJaguar

10 ай бұрын

​​@wingsoficarus1139 their tank and training manuals state exactly how angled armor effects the reliability of shell penetration. At the end of the day, in most circumstances, the ad-hoc armor most likely provides some small amount of protection, seeing as things like reinforced concrete were officially implemented on German tanks.

@Kingfisher516

10 ай бұрын

@@medicodyssey reactive armour acts primarily by destabilising or fracturing projectiles, spreading the projectile over a greater volume of armour.

@jaydeleon8094

10 ай бұрын

they really only worked on something like the panzerfaust because of how the weapons was designed. every other option shown would work at least somewhat against all forms of AT weaponry. Sand bags add way too much weight for the little good they do. Slap on logs and scrap wood would do the same job against the panzerfaust, but be far lighter.@@medicodyssey

"Hey, general. How about you get inside the tank and see how it feels to worry about getting cooked alive."

Too many people don't want to look at the actual numbers. Panther/Tiger tank hysteria was real, but when it came to actual one on one fights, Sherman tanks killed more Tiger/Panther tanks than the other way around. Tigers/Panthers couldn't penetrate the front of a Sherman, nor could a Sherman penetrate the front of a Tiger/Panther. The Sherman 75/76 was more than enough to penetrate the weak spots of a Tiger/Panther. Often times the Sherman crews out maneuvered the Tiger/Panther crews before the Tiger/Panther crews could out maneuver the Sherman crews. Numbers don't lie, especially when production quality comes into play.

As a WW2 tank lover. I love this.

At least the sandbag would capture bullet fragments

I guess US tank crews had their own hunger games to get a Jumbo.

Patton was right, armor plating is the best protection to weight ratio