This video is not wrong, but not enough. The most important thing Mr.Zuco here forgot to mention is the difference between "increased damage" and "more damage". This works like in poe, so anyone who understand this in poe 100% get it right away. But whoever comes from "not poe" will easily miss this. Basically "increased" is additive and "more" is multiplicative. TLDR "more dmg" is better than "increased dmg"

@ZucoWoW

5 ай бұрын

Good catch! Pinning this comment so people will see it!

@dungphan8041

5 ай бұрын

@@ZucoWoW are you ok with me putting out a video on the exact same topic, I'd like to finish a few more points that you didn't mention. I have a small youtube channel of around 600 subs (not this account btw) and I'd like to contribute my part so more people can enjoy the game better as they know how to make their character stronger

@elpred0

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the explanation!

@xeridian

5 ай бұрын

​​​@@dungphan8041It's your channel, why do you feel the need to ask permission from someone you're not associated with? Lol Do what you want to do, geez... 😂 You think he's the only one making videos on this topic and anyone else is forbidden? You must be GenZ, no offense, but you're sort of wearing it on your sleeve. Just be you and be confident and do what you want to do.

@UncleJay69

5 ай бұрын

​@@xeridian Actually It's more a culture difference, I'm just trying to be polite here. This is my channel account btw. I'll be recording and releasing my video today anyway. Oh and I'm not GenZ 😂 I'm 33 years old, early 90s kid here

Nice, have definitely been a bit confused about scaling. The flat/% example has been super helpful.

Eye test!! Jesus - I feel embarrassed I didn't think of that lolz. Was able to equip items that ended up doubling my damage. Thanks for the video!

@ZucoWoW

5 ай бұрын

Let's goo! I won't tell anyone, don't worry :)

Nice one. My damage issue was always against bosses-- took way too long (unless I'm on Warlock which feels like a cheat code)

@Quel_droma

5 ай бұрын

Have you tried playing literally any rogue melee/throwing build?

It's simple, really. Flat Damage is what you need FIRST. 100% of 1... is 1. So if I can get 2 Flat, or a 100%... that's 2 vs. 1. Early game, you aren't getting 100%, you're getting 10%. But once I have 100 Flat Damage, 10% is 10. Suddenly, that 10% is worth way more than 1 Flat... 101 vs. 110. And THEN if I get 200%, well NOW we get Big Numbies! But Percent does nothing if you don't have Base (Flat) to apply it to.

Yesterday I switched from a Bleed Warlock to a Torment Warlock (respecced). Did not understand why everyone is using the dagger "Ghost Maker". I did not see the added flat Necrotic damage all this time. Flat damage for abilities dealing small ticks of damage quickly (like DoTs) is nuts. Not that anyone thinks flat damage isn't still important for DoT. Granted, Torment doesn't need to be stacked up. It does its full damage potential as soon as it's on the target.

i'd love to know if my damage went up or not. but i'm playing minions. so i don't get any easy information lmao

Great video. Helped me a lot. Thanks.

The best tip for dealing more damage is right at the character select screen, just click the rogue, and go falconer. Tadaa you now have the strongest damage infinitly scaling.

thats my problem if i ever would want create my build. we need something like pob for poe where i can see damage i would do at higher level and fast rerolling tree items etc. now i can see what now i can deal getting this item but it about finding the best combinations for my build. and for minions this doesnt work either so i need to go to arena, attack dummy each time i change item..

This helped me quiet a bit, after this, i wend from 3700 to 6k. That is for me a nice jump in dmg alone. Thanks.

@ZucoWoW

5 ай бұрын

Well done!

@mikeg8343

5 ай бұрын

Now go to the guide and learn about the last sentence "more damage" its the one multiplicative modifier that ACTUALLY MATTERS, if you get x% "MORE" instead of increased, you will see some real numbers. (flat + added/increased x more/multiplicative) can also search your passives on skills etc for "multiplicative" instead of added/additive/increased which doesnt multiply your damage.

@ZucoWoW

5 ай бұрын

@@mikeg8343 Yep, more is definitely the best modifier to get, it's just quite rare. Super strong though for sure!

@machoalright

5 ай бұрын

@@mikeg8343thanks, any of those pointers will help me.

Fantastic video. Im running a bleed/smite/hammerdin build and am level 99. Trying to scale the damage a little bit so i can run T4 Julra to get the last items and legendaries i need

Never played this class before, do you have a build guide for this build?

this video is exactly what I was looking for! (y)

Something that still have me wondering after 100+ hours in the game is the difference between +physical damage and +melee physical damage. If a skill have both melee and physical tags, do they both increase the damage of the skill? 🤔

@ZucoWoW

4 ай бұрын

Yes! If that skill is a Melee Physical skill... The Primalist ability Swipe would benefit from both for example.

so if i have 500 Fire spell damage 100% increase fire damage would = 500 more spell damage and 100 fire spell damage would be 100 more % wins if I have 50 Fire spell damage 100% increase = 50 so 100 fire spell damage wins So if the flat damage is king until a point then its far weaker. I still dont get how crit works tbh

I didn't see your sabretooth scaling tags, but pretty sure your pet now scales with minion cold damage, not overall cold damage. As far as +skills go, I have +skills on my spear for my blademaster mage.

I could be just misunderstanding, but I have a question about the comparison at the 6:08 mark. You compared a fast attack weapon to a slow attack weapon. The fast attack had the raw damage, while the slow had the percentage. In this case, wouldn't the speed of the weapons be the defining factor in DPS? I feel the slower weapon would do more damage each hit, but slower, while the fast would do less damage per hit, but faster. In the case of using the slower weapon, wouldn't it then do more DPS if you have increase attack speed buffs?

OMG IM NOT CONFUSED OK

I tried using the guide. It didn’t even have a definition for “haste” I thought it was movement and melee attack speed atleast, and maybe cast speed. I asked in global chat and turns out it’s just movement speed. I don’t understand why definitions like that aren’t in there 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

very good vid mate

My judgement skill show 140k DMG..but my damage shown in fight is only around 8k-12k..

yesterday i had wolfs today they are rats im so gutted.

So how about pumping up DOT damage? right now im hitting a wall in one rotation i apply around 500 bleed stack + 220 poison stack...with my Falconer i use net + puncture with bleed/poison chance/damage and damage over time and minion damage over time the falcon alone put half of my stack, im not min maxed but when i fight bosses like lagon or orobys at high corruption i feel its hard i have some nodes that gives me more "global" damage and ennemy take increased damage, i shred resistance but never seen flat poison or bleed damage or maybe i missed the stats from somewhere

@hacep160

5 ай бұрын

issue with bleed is the base dmg, it is very low hence hard to scale. You could possibly try getting the instant bleed dive bomb node. Bleed scales with generic DOT dmg and % phys dm,g and some bleed modifiers I think exclusive to warlock

@ZucoWoW

5 ай бұрын

Correct, there isn't flat poison/bleed damage in the game. The "Flat" version of those damage types are the DOT's they apply. If you look at the in-game manual (Press "G" in game), it says that each stack of bleed deals 53 damage over 3 seconds, and each stack of poison deals 28 damage over 3 seconds. Those are the base, flat numbers for those damage types. So scaling Damage over time or Increased % poison/bleed damage will improve that base number. The trick to DOT builds is applying MANY dot's very quickly AND scaling your damage over time number so that each stack of bleed/poison hits harder. For a DOT build, any +flat damage is automatically really bad, as it does nothing for you. I'm not actually sure if increasing Global damage will help with DOT's, haven't tested that enough. If you're hitting a wall, the only thing I'd suggest is checking your gear and passive points and making sure you don't have +flat damage anywhere. Pick up Ignite/poison chance on every single suffix on every pieces of gear and roll %increased poison/bleed damage on every Prefix you can. Remember that having more then 100% chance to inflict an ailment = more stacks of the ailment being applied on each attack. If you have 500% poison chance, you'll add 5 stacks of poison each time.

@hacep160

5 ай бұрын

@@ZucoWoW very well done. You've given a very complex and well structured answer to their question :) I'm still not sure about pen, whether generic pen, let's say phys, scales the dot dmg or does it have to be bleed pen

@Mortac

5 ай бұрын

@@hacep160 Use the in game guide by pressing G. Bleed damage is physical damage, so yes, physical penetration works, however, Armor Shred does not since armor only protects again hits, and DOTs do not "hit."

@hacep160

5 ай бұрын

@@MortacYeah I guessed as much, it is just me being a PoE player and questioning every little thing in the game haha.

this still doesnt explain why % void damage is weaker then % melee damage as a warpath void knight the tags are void/melee for the types so they should be the same but %melee damage shows a lot more

My thorn totem DMG is nowhere shown :(

@ZucoWoW

5 ай бұрын

There are a bunch of skills in the game that don't have damage numbers being displayed yet. I'm sure EHG is working on it, but i understand it's frustrating for sure.

@dungphan8041

5 ай бұрын

There's something called testing dummy you can find in the Champion's arena. If you don't know what it is or where to find it, whenever you got an Arena key, right click on it, it will show u exactly where. That's the best place for dmg testing

hi~ When you make a build guide video Please show me some hunting videos How do you just listen to what you say and follow along?? There are a lot of people who watch the video just by looking at the title Remember

I’m finding myself wanting a dps meter, to try to make better decisions.

@Impuracle

5 ай бұрын

wow brainrot

@mar0981

5 ай бұрын

@@Impuracleif a dps meter came to the game that broke down all the damage numbers (say, on a target dummy in town), EVERYONE would be using it to test their builds, including you.

Meteor is fire damage only iirc

@ZucoWoW

5 ай бұрын

You can change it into a Lightning spell in its skill tree. :)

@dwho422

5 ай бұрын

@ZucoWoW interesting, I was in discord with a friend last night and he said he checked all nodes and none converted to lightning or ice, must have missed it thanks

@amirulfadhil3658

5 ай бұрын

​@@dwho422 lightning meteor is from vilatria set items

@ZucoWoW

5 ай бұрын

@@dwho422 My fault, I mispoke... There is an item that changes it into a Lightning Spell. www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDsEYA4DYg

its funny that you are trying to teach people how to increase their damage - and you are telling them wrong. "increased cold damage %" is for your player. not your minions. "increased minion damage %" is for your minions. your ice tiger gets NO extra damage from "100% increased cold damage" affix on your gear.

Dude u don't need to yell. Chill

Thanks captain obvious

Really not clown, multiplicative dmg is better than flat dmg, go back to school and learn some basic maths

@meritbrevity

5 ай бұрын

It depends. If the base is low, then increasing the base is more beneficial. Once the base is higher, yes multiplicative is almost always better.

@Ashubii

5 ай бұрын

Youre the clown. What use is multiplicative dmg if your base damage is low? 200% on 10 base damage is way worse than 50 flat damage.

@ZucoWoW

5 ай бұрын

They are both very important and I said that multiple times in the video. Flat is by far more important to find on gear for any builds except damage over time ones. There are plenty of ways to get massive Increased % damage (many two-handed weapons have 300%+ damage on them). Maybe you should go back and watch the video again and actually hear what I said. :)

@linearz

5 ай бұрын

Calling people clown on the internet because you're anonymous?!? Wow, such wow.

@crosdremz

5 ай бұрын

@@linearz Predictable. Anonymity = bad? Yawn. More like the 'can't handle criticism' excuse for people who wouldn't dare stand by their weak arguments. Maybe focus on your own online presence before throwing shade, champ