Improving the Mora 120 sloyd and 164 hook knife | Sharpening for Greenwoodworkers (#2)

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This video isn't a tutorial, but it should give you a good idea of the process behind hollow grinding or re-profiling these popular spoon carving knives.
You don't need a tormek to do the mora 164 mod, just some good diamond files and a bit of patience would do the trick. Taking off that factory secondary bevel simplifies sharpening (only need to hone the inside flat), and helps the knife through the cut. I didn't polish the outside this time, it's not really necessary.
This is the first video in a series I'll do trying to demystify sharpening for greenwoodworkers. Leave a comment if you have any requests on things you'd like to see covered!

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  • @markluke8447
    @markluke84472 жыл бұрын

    Nice video and great spoon, thanks for sharing.

  • @madfists7106
    @madfists71064 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, totally reminded me I need to get my 120 out and sharpen my 164, didn't realise i could do it off the side of the tormek stone, thanks for that. Subbed, keep it up.

  • @jones_trees_and_treen

    @jones_trees_and_treen

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! It's a handy tip, I picked it up off the tormek instagram. Just be aware if you do it often you won't be able to true the side back to square.

  • @madfists7106

    @madfists7106

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jones_trees_and_treen Ah yeah, good call! I'll use it sparingly, just to redo the grind, and use your sandpaper trick for the rest. Lovely spoons by the way, wish I could make some like that!

  • @griffedwards9159
    @griffedwards91594 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video! I am looking at building a strop but have heard that soft leather can round the edge as it has too much 'give'. Would vegetable tanned leather be suitable and do you have any other recommendations?

  • @jones_trees_and_treen

    @jones_trees_and_treen

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've been using a veg tan strop I made for over a year now with no issues. I think the micro-convexion issue with veg tan strops is a bit overplayed. That said, I have ordered in some kangaroo leather strops to try, which are purported to be superior. I'll make a video about it when I get them. It's important for the block to be as flat as you can get it and the leather an even thickness. I prefer the smooth side over the suede side, and I load it with tormek paste, bc that's what I have lying around.

  • @griffedwards9159

    @griffedwards9159

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jones_trees_and_treen Thank you for the swift reply! Firstly, what thickness do you recommend for the leather 1mm, 2mm? Secondly, how do you guarantee the flatness of the wood, do you use a planer? Lastly, why were you using the sandpaper on the dowel at around 5:20 despite there being no bevel on the inside? Sorry for all these questions but i am just starting!

  • @joeynuggetz
    @joeynuggetz2 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't really tell from the video, but were you rocking the knife a bit when you got to the tip or was it flat against the tormek wheel the whole time?

  • @jones_trees_and_treen

    @jones_trees_and_treen

    2 жыл бұрын

    Towards the tip of the knife I lift / raise up the handle to keep the bevel in constant contact. I prefer this method to swiveling it.

  • @leopoldoramirez8182
    @leopoldoramirez81823 жыл бұрын

    How d you make this sharpening block?

  • @jones_trees_and_treen

    @jones_trees_and_treen

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a flat machined piece of perspex, with cork on the bottom for non-slip. You can get them from an australian carving tools supplier 'woodtamer'

  • @sophieheard4303
    @sophieheard43033 жыл бұрын

    Hey Julian, nice to find you here. I'm trying to work out how to use the Tormek T8 that I got recently, so much to learn! So you sharpen the Mora 120 with the stone running away from you? All the demos I've seen are the opposite but I find it really hard to see what I'm doing. Is that why you do it that way? It looks way more comfortable.

  • @jones_trees_and_treen

    @jones_trees_and_treen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sophie, you can do it either way. I've come to prefer it with the stone running towards, and I just move my tormek on to a low table and stand above so I can see what I'm doing. The advantage of towards is that it removes material quicker and reduces vibrations and squealing. The advantage of running the wheel away is more control, but it can also cause the blade to work its way free of the jig depending on what you're using. Hope this helps.

  • @sophieheard4303

    @sophieheard4303

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jones_trees_and_treen thanks so much. How have you refined your technique? Are there any vids you would recommend or was it trial and error?

  • @jones_trees_and_treen

    @jones_trees_and_treen

    3 жыл бұрын

    I should make a new video because I do it quite differently now. Basically, grind in only one direction, don't go back and forth. Lift the handle to contact the tip very slightly at the end of each pass. Make sure you grade the stone flat with the diamond jig. This is all to help uniformity and avoid grinding a recurve into the belly.

  • @urmelausdemeis3495

    @urmelausdemeis3495

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jones_trees_and_treen ein aktualisiertes Video wäre toll.

  • @broderickjacobs1286
    @broderickjacobs12864 жыл бұрын

    Roughly how many times can you sharpen a blade until it isn't practical anymore?

  • @jones_trees_and_treen

    @jones_trees_and_treen

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can prolong the life of the knife by stropping often. It refreshes the sharp edge but doesn't remove much metal. If you didn't strop, and sharpened every time it got dull, it would last probably 5-10 years still before it got unusable.

  • @leopoldoramirez8182
    @leopoldoramirez81824 жыл бұрын

    i sharp my knives an my hook the 164 with sandpaper its more cheap a efective

  • @lschiaffino
    @lschiaffino3 жыл бұрын

    I think I have done everything wrong with my curved knife. I’ve always thought the “secondary bevel” was the bridge that’s found right at the middle of the blade, but apparently is the other one, right next to the cutting edge right? I think I have fucked up my knife. 🤕🤓

  • @jones_trees_and_treen

    @jones_trees_and_treen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes that ridge is the start of the primary bevel. It depends on what knife it is. Feel free to email me some photos and I can give you some advice.

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