Not a lot of hobbyist use scientific studies to be more successful and just go by general consensus or anecdotal evidence, nice work and keep it up.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

thanks!

You are the only Reefer who don't just promote a product even if that product works. Excellent work and thanks for reading these papers because they would definitely just put me to sleep.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Garry Cole thabks Garry

I think that you explain some of these papers pretty clearly. I'd like to see more content like this.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Michael rogers thanks Michael! I certainly plan on doing more reef science videos! Cheers

@donwilliams3848

3 жыл бұрын

agreed. I really like this.

You and Jake adams are carrying the hobbies understanding of reef tanks. Keep it up man

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Danyal Khan wow - that is great company thanks

This should have 20k likes atleast by now,great work. Keep up the great content 👏.

@TheBioReef

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Solo!

This is the most useful reefing vid I’ve seen in a long long time. Thanks for putting this together. You are an easy watch. 😎

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! Tell your reefing friends to check out the channel! all the best

I LOVE these videos! thank you so much for taking the time to share all this information. These reef science videos are seriously some of the best reefing content I've ever seen!

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

thanks so much Darkwing! i appreciate the feedback!

You’re awesome man! Thank you so much for taking the time and researching subjects that help the hobby. Really love the videos!

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Hey Amro, I appreciate the time and effort you put in to make these awesome videos! Very interesting and informative studies that you have been researching and I look forward to the update!

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Will be very interesting to follow along and see the results you get. Great research you have done on this subject thanks for taking the time to do it it’s much appreciated and thanks for sharing

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

thanks Braveheart!

Awesome video thanks for your research!!

as always excellent videos! Thanks a lot for these great bibliographical summaries!!!!!!

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

moshe ifrah my pleasure Moshe

Halfway thru and this is just brilliant - definitely the best reefing video of the month ;)

@sunnygoold9449

4 жыл бұрын

Just about to turn up my lights ;) With my new RSR250 thinking about lighting before I decided on the tank I wanted really good coverage and I was thinking 500PAR... especially after seeing what Abe does. I have LPS put I'm putting them in the shade. Also hearing yellow is rare makes sense - I am always after yellow. I wonder if it does better under 200PAR - like they always say Bird of Paradise Seriatopora is yellow in lower light. My issue is I don't have a PAR meter but I guess based on my light and what others have run that I will hit 500 if I run it at 50%... I'm at 15% now so a long way to go ;)

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sunny!

Amro love you man.. you’re an amazing reefer

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

thanks man!

Nice job. Enjoyed!

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks David

Thanks for all your scientific work. Please don’t get corporate sponsorship. Keep it real.

@TheBioReef

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Always keeping it real!

Love the Videos! looking forward to the updates!

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Excellent content, well presented, thank you.

@TheBioReef

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Interesting video. Well done.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Well done sir. More shared research furthers the hobby and this was a great share! My tank really took off after I rented a par meter and dialed in the intensity and spectrum. Acros get 650-300 par depending on location & type. Have to dose Red Sea colors to keep up the ICP results at sea water numbers. At that point aminos are crucial. Thanks for the video. I listened to it twice.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

That is awesome! glad you liked it!

Fantastic!!! Love this scientific summary. Makes so much sense and nicely brings together the puzzle pieces? You covered not only coloration, but also growth and nutrition. All the best with your new journey with your new setup? There may be some challenges as you are going to push limits, however that will just make it a little more exciting.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Wally b thanks Wally!

High par needs high nutrients. However you want to do it. High export high feed or keeping a balance with them there.

awesome video! i will definitely read that publication! your tank looks good also! thanks for sharing! acropower is an awesome amino acid!

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

thanks!

My scientific approach is to purchase known colorful specimens and keep the parameters stable. Red Sea AB+ had a positive effect on restoring color to new acropora frags. Nice lights help a lot.

Working in Aquaculture with daily ICP testing you saying that Traceelements haven't had a effect on color is just mindbending to me. Light and nutriants are only a part of the equation. At high PAR levels Iodine/Zinc are extremely important to prevent corals from bleaching. Running Manganese a bit higher and suddenly red colors overlay other colors, same happens with Iron and the color Green. Another observation we made is that our LPS dominanted Systems update Vanadium in a much higher rate then our SPS systems. There is a lot more but don't want make a wall of text. 🤣

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

its great to get your feedback ... more please!... yes i wonder if my lack of trace element depletion was simply caused by me 'not pushing' my system...

@garrycole9187

4 жыл бұрын

If you have all this information and observation, why aren't you analyzing it and making some conclusions and recommendations off those conclusion. If you are just keeping it to yourself as a "trade secret", then that does no one who is just a hobbyist any good.

@Coralhead_

4 жыл бұрын

@@garrycole9187 hey we'll be doing exactly that soon with our updated ICP homepage. We noticed that the higher the stress caused by extreme Blue/UV lighting schedules the more coral consume certain trace elements. I'm no marine marine biologist who tested coral tissue for months to see what exactly they stored in it but a aquarist working in a huge Aquaculture facility/ Aquarium supplement producer with daily ICP testing. If you want to know something ask away :)

@banks2993

3 жыл бұрын

Coralhead Reefer what elements exactly ?

@tomg5405

2 жыл бұрын

@@Coralhead_ what is you webside and where we can get this informations? Vanzdium is good for what? It is all time depleted in my mix reef

Well done! 🍻🦉

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Thank you for reviewing this paper for us. One thing that I’m missing in the original study is the analysis of par between 100 and 400. In some cases, The graphs show that the amount of proteins saturates at the 400 par and there’s a significant difference between 100 and 400. However, this saturation might as well occur at the 150 par. Unfortunately, the low resolution of the samples wouldn’t show that.

@TheBioReef

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it certainly a limitation. Although the study is still valuable in my opinion. It’s not always tractable to add extra conditions because it adds to extra efforts and expenses and I am guessing marine biology is not funded at the same rate as medicine.

Merci pour ta vidéo !!! 👍👍👍

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

thanks!

Nice job 👍🏾👍🏾

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Jeff’s Reef Tank thanks Jeff

REALLY appreciate this video...who would have thought an actual educated response to the age old question of coloration. Also interested to hear which amino acid product you choose and why you chose that specific product. Thanks :)

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

thanks, doing some research on this now!

You can see here one of my SPS tanks : denadai-reef.com/reef-600l/ I never dosed aminos or trace elements in this tank. Here another tank with po4=0 and No3=0 : denadai-reef.com/reef-atual/ I never dosed aminos or trace elements in this tank And here you can see my current tank : kzread.infoUgypdw5foD88h5tVTZl4AaABCQ This tank has no3=0 and po4 = 0.01/0.02 and dosing aminos and traces Just my two cents :-) Best Regards

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

your tanks look great Roberto. i also had some really nice colors in the redsea reefer 250 over the past several years; i know that you don't need to much to get decent color. But what i am trying to do with my rebuild is to really push the envelop in terms of how the corals look. I am trying to get them to make more intense pigments, and i think that it may be helpful to supply them with nutrients... kinda of like body building ;)

@tomg5405

2 жыл бұрын

Wich amino and trace are you dosing?

Keep posting vids often ❤️

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

will do :)

Thank you for video! It is very interesting! Could somebody give a link for document of Melissa S. Roth?

I look forward to future videos to see the progress because I am currently in the same place, so keep it up and let us know how it goes!

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Will do! thanks!

Fantastic distillation of the research and applying them to your tank. I can’t wIt to see the results over time. Those frags will grow in no time. One ask- can you please add the papers you referenced in the description? I’d love to read them and know others may as well without going down the google rabbit hole. Thanks for the scientific POV!

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Aaron Dus will do, thanks Aaron

Interesting video can’t wait to see how your progress on the tank goes. What kind of time increments will you use on ramping the par up?

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Greg Hirtle thanks. I’ve been doing 1% per week so far

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

I may slow this down the higher I get

Wows super fantastic saltwater aquarium and Acropora corals too... I wish my tank likes your tank don't knows when it happened....

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

thanks!

New sub for you! 🙋🏽‍♂️🙋🏽‍♂️ awesome video!

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Glenn Rudolph thanks Glen, welcome to the blue

A shallow water Acro likes high light. Revolutionary! lol. Good information though...just playing. It sounds like PAR around 400 is a good starting point for SPS... and interesting theory that higher light may spur uptake of trace elements. Please do a video on Amino's. I love your scientific angle on the hobby.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Big Adventure thanks! 😉

Great informative video, are there any of these type of papers, that you are aware of for euphillias at all. I'm assuming that colour spectrum can shift colours slightly. I have had the same hammer coral under the same viparspectra led for 3 years, I recently changed 20 of the leds out adding more royal blues and violets and removing the yellower leds. This has resulted In the stems of the hammer that were the browny in colour to have a green hue to it now.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

bearded-flipflop I haven’t seen papers on euphillias per say / most of the research is focused on ‘reef building’ corals, aka the Stoney corals. I think there may be some things that may translate over but not entirely sure

@bearded-flipflop7122

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheBioReef thanks, just thought I'd ask. Especially as you had spent time looking into it

Great indepth study of coral requirement and light. Prior to my tank crash (due to something else), I didn't know much about par requirement and use my ATI 8x80w light barely 2 inches away from water surface. SPS were growing like crazy with crazy fluorescent. Later I borrowed a par meter and realized that my sps were receiving between 600 to 800 par. So when I hear studies that says about 300 par is sufficient I was quite sceptical. In any case, great video. Any particular brand of amino acid are you thinking of dosing? I would like to give it a try too.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

thanks Salty - have a look at this vid re. amino acid kzread.info/dash/bejne/gHZoms6yYdW9lrg.html

@tomg5405

2 жыл бұрын

How many hours per day did you run them?

Good vidieo thanks 👍 I have recently began dosing oceamo. I dont think its available in the US but it may be of interest to you to read up on their regulators A and O, a lot of that ties in with your video 👍

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

I will check it out

Waiting for your results on more light and effect of Amino acid and Traces.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

MQ Hobby working on a vid now showing some early results

Nice vedio

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Great video finally something scientific. Can you find info about flow :)

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

will look into it

I have found the exact same summary through the years. May try to make my own amino acids after I finish my last gallon of acropower. I am finding having a higher fish load and nutrient level is better. I am letting my NO3 reach 10ppm and PO4 level =0.12ppm

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

cool... are there AA recipes out there ?

@Ellery-USA

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheBioReef I saw one thing on R2R but not really a recipe per se. It's a pretty expensive experiment but the person had been using it since last Nov with no ill effects and looked as good poly extension as the Brightwell stuff he used to use.

@Ellery-USA

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheBioReef Check out my DIY Reef Notes page I saved it there. facebook.com/notes/ellery-wong/diy-reef-tool-kit/10154079287486250/

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Ellery Wong nice Thanks!

Very intresting your Video. Do you get cyanos when you run so much blue? How high Do you run the pointintensity at your Radions at the ab+ schedule? Greetings from germany.

@TheBioReef

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Holger. No issues with Cyano. I run my lights at 81% intensity

@holgerkoob9339

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBioReef thank's for your quick answer and these realy good Informations out of your clips.

Nice video! Btw, par meter is needed then..?!

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Aqua Cyber thanks. Yep I check par occasionally with my seneye

Thank you so much for sharing this information. Your sps look stunning. I am currently loosing my sps (non acro) as I tried to raise nitrates by spectracide (tree stump remover diluted according to Holmes Farley's direction). I guess what I am trying to understand to get those stunning Sps what is: 1. PAR 2. Nitrates and phosphates 3. Alkalinity And how much stable do you keep those parameters? That is what I am trying to find out. I tried very low nutrients(with all like 7.7 to 8) for long with high light (like 300_350 par) but growth was not good. So I started playing with nutrients and then it nuked everything. Thanks

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

sorry to hear that... i dose KNO3 (although pharmaceutical grade stuff, not stump remover) and i find that it typically helps - gives the corals a bit of a pop!

@theguitarist1977

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheBioReef Cool thanks. I should not have done that and followed what the forums say. Feel so stupid now. I tried adding some carbon in a bad to try and extract whatever toxins were introduced by the stump remover. So what are your parameters like?

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

@@theguitarist1977 about 8.5 dkh, 450 ppm Ca and 1300 ppm Mg. I like to keep nitrates between 5 and 10 and i dose KNo3 whenever it drops. Phostphates are currently 0.16 ppm; i dose postasium phosphates whenver they drop below 0.05

@theguitarist1977

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheBioReef I see thanks for the Stats. My nitrates were zero, phosphate was 0.04 (using Hanna) and alk like 7.9-8dkh. I tried to raise nitrates to like 3ppm then hell broke loose. I have a very strong ats algae scrubber as well as biomarine block and spheres in the sump. So it seems i am doing it by the book much more than i should. One way i am thinking to raise nitrates is to try and turn of the skimmer. But after i get out of this bad shock i have in the system, will start playing with that. Thanks again

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Rafik Kamel you can also cut down the time your algae scrubber is on and reduce amount of marine blocks... I like the skimmer because of the extra aeration. I had a very similar experience when I started... was stripping the water of nutrients and sps were very pale.

I have trouble keeping Pinks and Reds, I end up turning them Green. I wonder if it's because, i'm increasing the GFP in them. As I'm smashing them with Radion 4's and 5's at 100% intensity..

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

yeah, what i learned from this research is that some colors can come and then go if PAR is too intense...

You have a huge colony of acropora carduu, mine when it grows a lot begins to fight for the center, I have cut it twice and except for the cuttings and it continues to grow but I can't have it like that, my light and current parameters are correct and not I feed the corals, I don't know if you have any idea what might happen. With other colonies of acropora this problem does not happen to me

@TheBioReef

3 жыл бұрын

Yep you have to keep cutting it or it may take over

@juanc6536

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBioReef But you don't know why I can have that problem right?

@TheBioReef

3 жыл бұрын

@@juanc6536 no. Perhaps some colonies are moe aggressive than others

Sadly that Light test was done under T5s which is different from LEDs. Corals do fine under 900 par from t5s, 900 par from LEDs on the other hand is almost certain death.

Wow. How u manage Mg level since u hav lot of Coraline etc

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

MQ Hobby no sure / I think the ca esv part contains Mg

What intensity % are you going to run your Radions to get that PAR?

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

have a look here - there is a par map with different intensities, about 75% on all three right now kzread.info/dash/bejne/aJaAtsiqot3Tf7g.html

@TheTrevor40

4 жыл бұрын

AmroAzul TV very nice. I have a gen 4 XR30 Pro over my reefer 170 running ab+ schedule. I’m around 70% peak but would love to ram up to around 80% as well to be closer to 400 PAR. I’ve been making weekly changes coming up from 50% a few months back.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheTrevor40 Wow... 4 xr30 on a reefer 170 !!!! you will have no problems will lighting the corals, guaranteed!

I’ve always thought those “rainbow” acro photos were photoshopped. It turned out they actually look that colorful in person.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

i have yet to see a homewrecker or a walt disney that looks as good as the pictures... :)

@robecom1

4 жыл бұрын

Most them are “enhanced” photos with reds and oranges bumped up

@robecom1

4 жыл бұрын

Some of the most colourful ones are under actinic blue lighting as well. The real test for colours are those under a 14k MH light or full spectrum light.

@NickM92

4 жыл бұрын

Depends on the owner. I’ve seen some just as nice as the photos but definitely some vendors photo enhance.

@bigadventure3797

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's just my LFS or my limited exposure to awesome display tanks but I haven't seen a truly stunning ACRO display in person. Even when I went to WWC in Orlando nothing really wowed me in terms of ACRO. The Lagoon tank blew my mind though. Getting discouraged over here.

Pretty interesting studies. I guess the only issue I have is your conclusions are nearly identical to almost every other major source of information in the reefing community. Increase par, feed heavily and check your dosing levels...that’s what everyone says to do. But I suppose it’s nice that all the scientific papers you found just left us with the same conclusions we’ve all found anecdotally.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

There are some finer points... some pigments increase proportionally with PAR, while others plateaux and then decline...

When you say blue light in the video is this royal blue? Or uv and voilet mixed in? And were the uv and voilet ran at max

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

MereReef it was a specific wavelength / I’ll look at the paper and get back to you soon

@MereReef

4 жыл бұрын

AmroAzul TV thanks amro

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

Ok, blue light = ~450 nm; this i think corresponds to royal blue

@MereReef

4 жыл бұрын

AmroAzul TV see the reason i asked it... there have been a few expert reefers.. wont mention any names but they ALL recommend that you run the uv and voilets lowww like half the percentage you run the royal blue at.. they say uv turns the corals green.. i did this test high uv and some of my acros turned green.. when i lowedred the voilet and uv the corals started to change colour to what i would call natural colours

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

MereReef interesting. Is it the UV the turns the corals green or is it that the UV excites green fluorescent protein making the corals shine green... not sure...

Perhaps a reduction in prices can help average people like me

Get yourself some t5 or even better metal halide, the corals will look better. If not turn up your whites on the led. Corals need full spectrum (leds dont have that) especially at higher par. People have known this for decades with far better tanks then the great led tanks now. IMO there is some loss of knowledge on lighting in the hobby/on the forums. par is not everything as it only reads certain spectrum, leds only produce this spectrum. Stop dosing no3 and start feeding more. Corals like taking ammonium not nitrate. Keep your n and p low with export (chaeto) if you want great colors.

@TheBioReef

4 жыл бұрын

i think i will probably need to add more white on the LEDs to increase PAR to the levels i want... Alas, while i think T5s are great, i really love how sleek the Radions look over my tank... and i don't get a lot of light spillover. my tank is in the living room so it has to look sleek as well

@laurens6267

4 жыл бұрын

​@@TheBioReef It is possible to have good results with those lights as well, but you cant compair 500 +par ab+(radion) with 500+ par mh or t5. The t5 will have a much wider range of spectrum with IR (750+ nm) and UV (around 350 nm). Corals will tollerate much higher par with t5 and mh because of that spectrum. The leds certainly look great, and wont cause much heat! I have a ATI sunpower on my current build and it has no spill and looks great IMO.

@tomg5405

2 жыл бұрын

The problel if you feed a lot the phosphate go higher quicker than the nitrate

Nice video, hopefully you like mine aswell

I guess ill just read the papers since this turned into a science class 🙄🙄🙄 bruh… cut the fat and give us the skinny jesus

@TheBioReef

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha :) science is my jam. Also, seeing is believing. YT is full of channels of folks passing opinions as facts. I like to show the science and then discuss it.