does 5:52 count as a nollie „hardflip“? you decide 🙏🏼 vlskate is the man even that this one thing was a little misleading 🙏🏼

@yeetbot7699

3 жыл бұрын

Ye 100 %

@gokugovner2817

3 жыл бұрын

I think it counts, also ur the best skate youtuber just to let you know, keep up the good work.

@EthanChase

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a Nollie hard flip too me

@JDfromtheIE

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely counts

@dylan.nowland__2025

3 жыл бұрын

@@yeetbot7699 same

This is the official "apology accepted" button

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

@dylan.nowland__2025

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonnyGiger hi

@joejoe2658

3 жыл бұрын

tell the factory the button has a spelling error on it.

@robinbrzovic5372

3 жыл бұрын

@@joejoe2658 oh yes you’re right, I am sorry.

@mcjazz

3 жыл бұрын

420

Imagine being so good when you’re having trouble with a trick your solution is try it switch

@iamrayn

3 жыл бұрын

Had the same thought

@Kazperian

3 жыл бұрын

yep that was clearly insane! lol

@cheepasskid

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not as crazy of a thing as you’d think. Doing something switch for a many people is actually ironically easier than doing it regular for them. Like I think sw heels are way fucking easier than regular. Even more so, there’s people who I think that skating switch entirely is easier than skating regular.

@iamrayn

3 жыл бұрын

@@cheepasskid still, it's CRAZY to see someone do that when struggling with a trick

@muttonvindaloobeast8160

3 жыл бұрын

@@cheepasskid I land nollie kickflips 4/5 tries. Regular is 1/5 if I'm lucky. I cant explain it because I SUCK switch

HA! i never even noticed that i was flipping the board the wrong way in my trick tip. i also barely knew what the trick even was back then so i guess it makes sense, sorry jonny! :D

@Rdkmrng

3 жыл бұрын

Soooo new tutorial??? 😊

@cikatika339

3 жыл бұрын

Vilassssssss 🔥🔥

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

no worries, it was still helpful 🙌🏼🙏🏼 thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

@cikatika339

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonnyGiger Jonnyyyyyyyyy 🔥 🔥

@Jonathan-jq5cl

3 жыл бұрын

Fight fight fight ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽

Apology accepted, those late flips were sick!

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

thank you! big relief 🙏🏼

“A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.”

@Messermarkmauritz

3 жыл бұрын

Nice one mir J. R. R. Tolkien fan! 🤩

@alexg3176

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gandolf.

@mylesaway2566

2 жыл бұрын

🥰

Your content has come a long way, man... this new format is great, very natural and your personality shines. Happy you’re still keeping it real!

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

thank you! yes i‘ve been working a lot on my english too, which makes it easier for me to talk like i would in swiss german. it‘s still a lot of work but i love to improve my english :)

@dougnulton

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonnyGiger Your English is very good man, your personality comes out very well!!

@BranZHamZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonnyGiger when you call it Swiss German your accent starts to make so much more sense!

Muska's flip over the stairset looks incredible, he absolutely nailed that slow flipping motion and landed perfectly

Jonny, the way that you walked through every step of what and how just shows how Awesome of a skater and human being you are!!!

Hi i jonny my names is João i'm 15 years old and i'm from Brazil, want to say thank you to inspired me to skate and have persistence, i met you 3 week ago and you got me fascinated in skatebor, 1 week ago i went to a local skateshop in my city and buy my first board and im skating everday since than, when i'm skating i feel happy, free, strong ,brave i dont know how to explain that lol, 4 days ago i learned ollie and today i learned shuvit and fs 180 ollie (your videos helped me a lot ).you are one inpiration in my life and definitely my favorite skater in the world, again i wanna say thank you so much to introduce skate in my life. Ps: your music playlist is dope

I’ve always called this trick a hard flip when done vertical and a FS varial when done horizontally. Not stopping now.

I don’t understand why everyone is so critical when we all know damn well no one is even close to this mans skill level

@samharris3508

3 жыл бұрын

You should be able to critique any person. That's how we keep them honest. Just because we criticize someone doesn't necessarily mean its negative.

@holychopsticks7456

3 жыл бұрын

@@samharris3508 agreed but some people were just went beyond just critiques

Jonny the time lapse of you learning these tricks is insanely beautiful in the background and really cool looking seeing the attempts progress. Nice work bro

Thank you Jonny for all the cinematography, and all the hard work you put into making your videos and skating dog, you a real one, much love out here from Vegas!

growing up skating in late 90s, this trick seems so not confusing , was just how a lot did their hardflips or fs flips :)

@TheRealBeachBum

2 жыл бұрын

I use to argue with my friend about this. He did them so well thinking he was doing a fs flip But they're not front side flips😂

Jonny giger is such a nice guy. I would love to meet him and skate with him😁

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

lets goo 🙏🏼

@quaidmarshall5343

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonnyGiger no way dude! I love your channel

@fabianvu3678

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonnyGiger ayoo i will a learn Session with u

@azharborhan5406

3 жыл бұрын

Im a 33 years old non skater also feel like want to skate with him. Shit, what am i doing here

@alexg3176

3 жыл бұрын

Simp

I love watching you skate and learn new tricks even as a pro, you are inspiration

Dude. Words can’t describe how fast you progress when learning a new trick! My jaw literally drops at every video of your’s! Please, please keep on inspiring the younger generations and keep giving a sense of awe to the old heads like me!👏🙌🤩🤩

I do appreciate your honesty and persistence Giger, keep up the amazing work!!!

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

thank you! lot of work went into this one 🙏🏼

This was one of my signature tricks in 1996 and i had no clue what is was called. Also did it with body varial. Was easier for me do do that than a kickflip

@citizenplane5840

2 жыл бұрын

For some reason some regular skaters find this easier than a heel or kickflip I skate goofy so I'll never understand that. But I had a friend that skated regular that basically was trying to shove it with a varial and this is what happened. And it kinda became his signature as well. We had no idea what ypu would call it either. We just called it a vertical shove it.

We love watching you do tricks that a lot of tries Johnny!

that first nollie hardflip was pure butter

I skated back when muska was in his prime, and this was a trick that I could do in every stance...i think the key to making it look like the real thing is a slight frontside tilt to the shuv. And we must remember that nobody used the names "illusion flip" or "muska flip" back then. It was just the way we did hardflips and frontside flips back then. That's how it got listed in magazines, and skaters knew the difference between a real one and a hard shuv. Also, if you're gonna name it after a skater, it should have been Chet Thomas. Your switch and nollie versions look correct.

Always love seeing a new vid posted!

This is great editing and filming! You lead the viewer step by step to the logic of the trick.

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

thanks! it was a lot of work for me to have this in a logic. The Trick was confusing already but have it explain in english was hard :D

Such an awesome person you are Johnny. Keep up the magic my friend!

This is one of those vids that really shows off the science behind skating. Keep rockin on jonny

Very correct video. Thanks for closing the case on this video Jonny.

yooo your so raw! and the dedication you have to landing tricks is soooo crazy!! thank u

Thanks for the clarification Jonny!

Your videos are amazing, I love how u keep learning. BIG inspiration.

it's crazy that for so long I could do a trick johnny couldnt. props on coming back to it!

this was the first flip trick i learned right after a shuvit, it’s so cool to watch you break it down! i didn’t even think of doing it hardflip style rather than frontside flip!

@repel3885

8 ай бұрын

What’s ur best tip for it

Love your videos Jonny. I watch them all the time with my viewers. Cheers! :)

beautiful flips jonny

When i started skating (around muska time) 5:55 this was a legit hardflip back then. Nobody could do it like they do them today. u had a better chance of landing the trick, when your board was a bit shorter, because u have hit your nuts so often :D my foot placement was so weird to get the kickflip rotation and not heelflip. man it was fun back then, now im old and too fat to skate xD ah i forget, in a game of skate it only counted as a hardflip when u have seen the complete underside of the board in the air (from skaters perspective)

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

amazing thanks for the input 🙏🏼 the game of skate thing makes sense. that sure did lead to some arguments though 😂

@PHeMoX

3 жыл бұрын

@djmikka06: There were regular hardflips before the Muska flip became a thing. And the Illusion flip is about as old if not older than the hardflip. So I don't think you are correct. As happens with some tricks, sometimes it is just a trend of people doing Muska flips instead of hardflips etc. It doesn't usually have anything to do with people not being able to do these tricks.

@jonsmith9981

3 жыл бұрын

@@PHeMoX I was learning flip variants around '93. 100% before muska I knew what a real hardflip was. Cos I thought i was doing them then it was explained. Anyone who says a hardflip is not a fs shuv with a clear kickflip is just wrong. It's ok to learn.

@xXCrazyVirusXx

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah this was how I did my hardflips too back then

@jonsmith9981

3 жыл бұрын

Go watch rodney do hardflips in any old plan b vid before muska. When muska got big everyone I knew was talking about how they were illusions or muska flips as we started saying. 'Oh that one went muska'. It was really common for people not to know Not taking away from muska. Dude was insane and a big inspiration.

I've been skating for years and never really understood this trick. Great explanation!

100%+ respect for this video! Also, yeah, there will always be a healthy discussion about when a trick is a trick with a certain name. I don't think illusion flip always has to have a body varial. But that's fine either way. You're probably right, this time around!

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

true 🙏🏼

This is how I 'hardflip' with half flip or what I thought 15 years ago. Tight trucks really help. Looks really good with a late kickflip. Looks just like kareem Campbell special TH1. It's all in the ball of the back foot on the tail, outside pocket, let it go vertical.

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

haha i actually been thinking about tightening the trucks but i forgot about it.

Ive been trying to figure out the difference between these two flips since 2000.. Thank you for finally clarifying!

A man of honour stands by his mistakes, owns up to them and seeks redemption. You sir, have been redeemed 🤙

Fakie frontside/illusion flip was my best flatground trick back in the day. I didn’t realize it was weird until seeing something here on KZread in the last couple years.

This is great. This is how I learnt to pop shoves and I always thought they looked like hardflips! Once the board goes vertical it basically has to flip one way or the other, otherwise it lands grip facing down. So if it goes vertical it’s no longer a shuv and will be either hardflip/inward heel depending on which way the board goes. I think 🤔

You nailed it! Board flips up in between your legs and your back leg has to extend back to let the board through and then come forward to land.

luv the vids, luv ur humility, luv ur dedication, luv ur luv of sk8ing...........thanks for existing JG, MUCH LOVE

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the support! glad you like my videos! 🙏🏼

Definitely a real nice nollie hardflip! I have a sw Muska flip on my Muska unboxing & a Hard flip illusion in slow mo totally vertical. The key to this trick is the back foot positioning which you scoop to get the pressure to flip it 👍🏼

The way you handled that mistake is examplary. It shows your incredible character !

crazy to see this i love to watch yu learn tricks makes me realize everyone has to work hard to get tricks

man the dedication, amazing

Jonny, you are a legend!

Yes, one of my favourite skater talking about one of my favourite tricks

Love the effort put into the vids

Bro you are the KZread flat ground/technical skate goat 🐐. Nice work keep up the great content 👍

great video, been debating this with people since the late 90s!!! also yr first switch illusion flip was a beaut!

This is what I love about Johnny Giger, he always cleans up his tricks and is determined to land it somewhat clean

Always luv the late flips

Getting that space brace on Wednesday, ty for the recommendation and quick response!

Yes there is a thin line between muska and hardflips, well said! i started doing them when my pop shoves transformed into muska flips more and more and it helps to put your backfoot on a tre flip kind of stance! After some time they turned into real hardflips using the same stance

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for this extra info 🙏🏼 its always inspiring how people learned tricks :)

This video is epic and I’m glad you’re able to put this trick to bed now. Really good effort you legend

4:57 just a lil flawless flip as a reminder he still a pro ;) keep up the good work Jonny!!! love from México

giger flip, you rip bro. love the late back foot flips btw. thanks for sharing

Jonny got the deepest bag of flip tricks of all time, no doubt.

I've always flicked my "illusion flip". I still call it a hardflip. Edit: I went back and watched, and Muska definitely flicked his hardflips.

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

i don‘t see a flick on the two examples on 2:28-2:30. i found one that is slightly flicked though.

@Dee-nonamnamrson8718

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonnyGiger Let me rephrase. He definitely flicked some of his hardflips.

@Dee-nonamnamrson8718

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonnyGiger The two in this video I kept rewatching and couldnt tell if he flicked or not so I did a youtube search for a muska vid, and the one I saw he definitely flicked.

@Dee-nonamnamrson8718

3 жыл бұрын

@Nillass True, definitely nothing like you would flick a kickflip. It wasnt meant to criticize Jonny in any way. He's one of my favorite skaters.

Amazing channel, I'm an ultimate noob skater but its amazing to see these tricks broken down

This is how my switch frontside flips just naturally flipped when I first started trying them. I've always just said I was doing frontside flips, but illusion flip sounds more badass so we're going with that from now on lol.

giger: p-rod, come over! nollie hardflip p-rod: next battle at the berrics?

YOOO Those late flips are amazing

You're awesome dude... love your videos!

What an educational video thank you for this 🙏

definitely a nollie hardflip and beautiful one!

Nothing but respect my brother it was an easy trick to get confused. Keep on pimp love the vids

thx for all that good stuff !!!

Always loved doing hardflips this way. Only thing is its hard on your popping knee to get the right pressure built up

I love watching you skate your insane

hmmm seems like normal pop shov it to me, loved your late flips as excuse, man you do not need to excuse for no one, you are a legend!

Dang those late flips were rawww

@JonnyGiger

3 жыл бұрын

thank u 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

Happy to see your hitting the pop shove problem as well

Amazing video! Solid trick keep up the great workkk

Right on, good job! I think Muska made it look so unique because when he did it, his legs went super spread eagle and the board would go almost completely vertical. In any case.. Great vid! 🤙

FRESH JONNY VID! LETS GOOO!

Your nollie hardflip and switch hardflip are proper flips. The Muska hardflip era was a strange time. Most people didnt care if it flipped or not, they just liked seeing them with pop. Thats the reason why I stopped doing them, I knew I was cheating my way into a hardflip.

You have some solid pop brother jonny

Beast mode love that flat ground game

best personal skate content on youtube.

This trick without the body varial is one of the first tricks i learned and i had no idea what it was or had ever seen anyone else do it

glad i saw this, didnt saw the other video but always good to see that people still admit mistakes :D big up!

Now you got it man!! 👏🏼

THE FIRST 10 MINUTES = the most beautiful INWARD KICKFLIPS - I - have - ever - seen!!

This was my goto trick back in the days. I loved how the board went up to stick to my shoes, such a satisfying feeling. Add a grab on a 3 stairs and enjoy the ride. Peace

That’s how I hard flip and frontside flip. Than again I grew up watching muska.

@joeolson6623

3 жыл бұрын

I watch all your KZread clips Jonny! Some of the things I see on your channel should come with a physics book!

Love your videos bro

what an itch to scratch on! :D good that you scratched this off. very enjoying video!

Was never a big fan of this trick, but you got it nailed down.

Haha I’ve got that same Zelda book! Great video bro 🤘🏼🔥

you got it 100% right Jonny. Awesome video. :D this hard flip is approved and it looks rad. the back foot was the key. think it is easier with a little flick like on 13:21. the last hardflip was between muska flip and the usual hard flip. don't understand how some people say that the muska flip is an illusion flip. it is a clear hard flip.

Damn bro, i really appreciate the effort u put into these videos. Skating is a very hard sports and requires a lot of dedication and discipline. I really like ur videos. U seem to be very sympathetic and a chill dude. Keep up these vids and keep up the good atmosphere!

@808goblin9

3 жыл бұрын

Please keep going, u motivate me to start skating again! And i just fw ur vids heavy

Do never have an appointment with Jonny. He is always LATE.

Man I wish I had the ability to unlock tricks like Jonny Giger. But I guess available spots to go to everyday helps too.

Very cool and apology accepted.. by the way, your nollie and switch hardflips were beautiful

Muska Muska Muska Great Great Great.... One of my faves. Always played as him in THPS 2