Do you have a full parts list and where you purchased them?

@porkercon

10 ай бұрын

Parts list here: 26" 3000w 72V rear wheel s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dm0TiEX 72V 30ah Battery (buy at own risk, I would seek a name brand/certified battery) s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDFXHgJ Controller, throttle, levers, sensor, screen s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFNl6Sr ^I can't find the same controller with the same battery connector, you might have to solder on a connector. Wire junction box s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDqtKxv 5 speed freewheel s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFgY4r1 127mm square taper bottom bracket s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDSYN3H All other parts were already on the bike for the most part, torque arms were custom made.

@No-ju9xz

7 ай бұрын

​@@porkerconhow do you trust aliexpress man? I've heard of people getting scammed and am so weary of it.

@porkercon

7 ай бұрын

@@No-ju9xz Just do a credit card chargeback if you never get the item

@iwasframed1370

4 ай бұрын

Pedal assist sensor goes on the other side of frame on the non-drive side of the cranks.

I put basically the same motor on a stealth type frame in 2021 (3000w) and I love it. It's my daily driver...weather permitting. The frame is quite heavy of course but I decided to go for something that absolutely wouldn't fatigue over time. I wish more people could experience how much fun these big motors are, thanks for posting.

Nice video! I used UPP cell batteries on my ebike and atv, and they are extremely well built as seen in tear-downs. Highlighy recommended. They make universal tq arms I show in my bike video. Yours are gnarly, and in a good way- should have room to grow with that setup; thank you!

@Tomas-ml9nv

3 ай бұрын

Upp are poor quality. Banned in UK for fire hazard.

@manicmods

3 ай бұрын

@@Tomas-ml9nv It's like places banning Juul, they just target the biggest manufacturer representing a market. I've used, tested, opened many lithium battery packs. UPP , in my experience, uses better BMCs, double solder points on cells, and they're internal wiring further showcases their workmanship. Others I've purchased have came w wrong power supply, have shody wiring or BMC failed. And even more I've purchased were actually UPP batteries rebranded. Nonetheless appreciate your reply and input! whatcha using in your builds?

Nice build! Very similar to my bike.

I made my torque plates and bolted them straight into the frame. 10000 watt hub and controller. 84v main and 12 vt booster all together 96v

4:22 Very good point to check. I was in the same trouble. I had to grind and reshape dropout too. Very hard.

I never had problems with my axel drop out. Only made one side torque arm set up

Nice ebike build. I do like your take on the torque arms. Have you modified the current shunt on the controller for more output?

@porkercon

Жыл бұрын

It is modified to have less output.

You should be able to swap the 5 speed cassette with an 8 speed one and have it take up the same amount of space. The 8 and 5 speed are the same size, just on the 8 each chainring is closer together. Edit: Also, pretty sure the pedal assist sensor goes on the opposite side of the cranks to the front cassette.

thank you for this video, I am going to be building my own ebike from scratch, so I will make my own frame, do you know how far the brake disk mount is from the centre of the wheel, and what is the width of the tyres? thanks

@porkercon

Жыл бұрын

I don't and 2.35

Excellent information

my friend the controller straps wrap around the bag first and then they stick on the velcro, if that makes sense

Were you eventually able to get rid of the check engine light?

@elias8981

10 ай бұрын

Having a check engine light on your display can be due to multiple factors. You should look for the error code written on the screen and refer to your display manual to see what is the error related to.

Did the same but with a 1500w motor on my mountain bike. 35mph feels scary on a bicycle but really fun at the same time.

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe

8 ай бұрын

@@Bikes0420 there is nothing the law can do man.

@user-oy9zy4ds9m

5 ай бұрын

You can do up to 50 mph before bicycle frame without proper wheel alignment, balancing etc will become unstable and you start getting wobble in the front

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe

4 ай бұрын

@@user-oy9zy4ds9m i start feeling a bit unstable only im approaching 40mph downhill at full throttle, i limited the bike to not go beyond 35 and generally with the resistance of the motor it wont go faster than that even downhill.

@leeford3475

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I got 3000w ebike with 52v 28.8ah 29er on slicks it will do 45mph and you can feel how light the steering is because of trash weight balancing

@leeford3475

3 ай бұрын

Wanna upgrade the battery to 72v at 40ah but unsure as the balance of the bike is way to far back for my liking

Great video

With a 60 Amp controller and that 72 volt battery that will be so fast! I wish it was mine. My 1500 watt build has 52 v battery and 35 amp controller, and does 32 mph

@DutchTheoutlaw

3 күн бұрын

Definitely upgrade making my first purchase and Definitely goin with the 3000 watt

Pretty cool.. Yeah, some controllers you can program to have milder start up or delayed power at take off. Or the display will actually have settings for take off sensitivity.

@tr1707

11 ай бұрын

This is great to know

The pedal sensor is designed for the left side and seats in to the bb

@tjrcuk

8 ай бұрын

Yes, that is correct on my ebike DIY build you will see I put it on the non-drive side.

What is maximum torque power?

I just got this same ebike kit from NB power. Unfortunately, when I turn on the throttle it makes a long beeping sound. Any chance would you guys know what that means? The rear wheel doesnt spin. Feels like its locked

@porkercon

15 күн бұрын

Disconnect phase wires and see if wheel spins

Hello mate im a fan, absolutely love the brillant torque arm design but i have got one question. How do you stretch out the frame by 2.5cm like what u mentioned in the video.

@porkercon

4 ай бұрын

By pulling it with your hands, its not permanently stretched, and its not good for the frame.

@zephyrus3389

4 ай бұрын

@@porkercon using a 5000w motor and its axle is longer guess i dont have any other choices right mate

@porkercon

4 ай бұрын

@@zephyrus3389 right, might have to do some frame modification

Flip you off with 1/4 throttle, crikey!!! Thank you so much for sharing this build. Do you have any footage of it in action? What kind of range do you get out of battery?

@porkercon

9 ай бұрын

50-60km when going fast and not caring about trying to preserve battery. There is a video in my shorts of it driving by.

As for the pedal assist sensor and magnets don't put it on the crank side put it on the other side that's what I did and it works just fine

Can this be put on a regular 20" ebike? Would putting it on the front wheel for front wheel drive be more stable?

@porkercon

Ай бұрын

Probably not since the motor is so big, front would be fine but would put a lot of force on the fork.

@porkercon

Ай бұрын

Looks like there is 20" versions of 3000w, scary.

hey i was just wondering if its safe to buy ecerything off aliexpress did you buy it off there if not can you send me the link to the other websites where u bought them off please reply

@porkercon

4 ай бұрын

ya

I’m doing a similar build on a fat tire e-bike I would love to compare notes if you got the time

What would be advantage or disadvantage to having battery on rear rack?

@porkercon

2 ай бұрын

Advantage, leaves space on frame, disadvantage, puts all the weight on the rear tire, front end would be very light.

I don't know if you mentioned it but how many amps is the controller?

@TFengineer

11 ай бұрын

Nevermind, I just saw the sticker, 60A peak. Probably 30A nominal.

@porkercon

11 ай бұрын

@@TFengineer ya 60A

@TFengineer

11 ай бұрын

@@porkercon Thanks!

What happens when you hit potholes?

does it go 15 mph ? good !

i just got this same kit and putting it together. can you just not connect the pedal assist if you dont wanna use it? and same for that alarm system with the key fob stuff? not sure if some wires need to be shorted together or no... mines got a 48V 1000W on front and this 3000W on rear.. lol😂

@porkercon

11 ай бұрын

Just don't connect them

Hey man, decent build and good tutorial, i was considering something like this but also was worried about the frame handling the torque, so my theory has been to downgrade to a 1500w 48/52v and just be happy with that for some fun around town and off road weekend rides, do you think i can get away without using a torque arm, or would you say to at least use the original 🤷🏽‍♂️👍🏽

@porkercon

8 ай бұрын

yep, 1500w is great, 3000w is overkill. My friend has about 6 eBikes right now and he uses the 1500w the most

@dansnow2942

8 ай бұрын

@@porkerconthan you for your quick response 🙏🏽👍🏽with or without torque arm, I also know of the trick to remove the plastic spacer on the disc brake side from factory, but I'm having slight issues, so the rim fits my frame with all the nuts and spacers but the spacers only fit outside of the frame if I put 1 behind and the other outside with the nut it won't fit between my drop out but it is the correct hub for my drop out,,, any suggestions please.

@porkercon

8 ай бұрын

I'm not sure @@dansnow2942

@rey_nemaattori

8 ай бұрын

I have a 1500W/52V kit (does about 1750W fully charged), you're gonna need at least 1 torque arm, or it might spin out of the fork at full power...perhaps not directly, but certainly over the months. I haven't removed my wheel in 2 years since I built it If you're gonna use regen braking, you might even need two torque arms, as the force applied reverses when braking.

@KyleWilliams-xf5st

7 ай бұрын

@@porkerconwhy would you say the 3000w is overkill?

What is the reng?

Would this kit fit in a 26” nakto supercruiser?

@porkercon

10 ай бұрын

nope

Sounds like a lot i might as well just get a acutel motorcycle, for as much money as this will cost right?

@porkercon

23 күн бұрын

No, its not that expensive. But for many other reasons a motorcycle is a much better idea.

Where did u get your bagtery

@porkercon

Жыл бұрын

motorizednation.ca

Where did you get the bag?

@porkercon

6 ай бұрын

s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Ddw3YmP

I have a similar kit and the velcro on the controller bag makes zero sense

what's your top speed? with current set up?

@porkercon

11 ай бұрын

84km/h

Should i do 3kw or 5kw?

How do you charge the battery?

@porkercon

2 ай бұрын

AC adapter

6:00 If they had stored the velcro straps wrapped around the bag as apposed to around itself it would have been more obvious how they are supposed to be used to secure the bag. The velcro goes on top. at 6:13 you have the bag upside down trying to install the bag as though you'd be wearing it as a fanny pack. The vecro goes from the top, around the bag, under the panier, back up around the bag to the top.

@porkercon

3 ай бұрын

I think we tried that but they were too short. Its now directly mounted to the frame with no bag.

@AegisPupus

3 ай бұрын

@@porkercon tyraps ftw

Did you get it from Ali express?

@porkercon

11 ай бұрын

No but the same one can be bought from there

Hallo, erstmal, wie hast du eigentlich das Hinterrad hineinbekommen? Die meisten Achsaufhängungen haben doch nur ein Rahmen Nabengröße von 130 mm sprich 13 cm und das 4000 Watt Modell hat doch sicher 150er spricht 15 Zentimeter. Narbenaufnahme, wie hast du denn die Hinterradnabe, in die Aufnahme bekommen? Das würde mich jetzt mal interessieren. Schöne Grüße von Christian!

@porkercon

Ай бұрын

Road bike is 130mm, mountain is 135mm so its fine.

@UrbexDerWeltenbummlerChristian

Ай бұрын

@@porkercon Nein ich meine der Motor die Nabe das umrüstset hat doch 150 mm wie hast du das gemacht das es rein passt den Rahmen auseinander gedrückt um das Rad rein zu bekommen ❓

@porkercon

Ай бұрын

@@UrbexDerWeltenbummlerChristian This one is set to 135mm, you are looking at a different one.

Hello my friend, is it possible to install a 3000 watt motor on a 15 amp V48 battery? Thank you

@porkercon

5 ай бұрын

I think its possible but it wont run at 3000w

@user-su7vl3mt7h

5 ай бұрын

@@porkercon thx

@Craigy975

10 күн бұрын

wouldnt even get you down the road before battery ran out.

You might wanna protect those hosethingys from the chain

Sweet

Is this 135mm or 142mm dropout

@porkercon

2 ай бұрын

135

I thought the crank sensor goes on the other side😮

Can you send me link to buy please

@porkercon

10 ай бұрын

Parts list here: 26" 3000w 72V rear wheel s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dm0... 72V 30ah Battery (buy at own risk, I would seek a name brand/certified battery) s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDF... Controller, throttle, levers, sensor, screen s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFN... ^I can't find the same controller with the same battery connector, you might have to solder on a connector. Wire junction box s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDq... 5 speed freewheel s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFg... 127mm square taper bottom bracket s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDS... All other parts were already on the bike for the most part, torque arms were custom made.

86kmh=53.4 mph. ‘Off-road only’… That thing would kill you off road for sure.

@rayhankhan8453

15 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

How is it climbing steep hills?

@porkercon

Жыл бұрын

Very well

@tankprohp

8 ай бұрын

Anything over a thousand Watts you can climb pretty much anything

@jjmcwill1881

7 ай бұрын

Im 300lbs and just converted with 1000 watt and can get up most any hill. Im sure he has zero issues

@Fulldrawflickingandsticking

6 ай бұрын

@@jjmcwill1881if your 300lbs you should be on a pedal bike only shit no need for a e-bike need to get that fitness in 😮

@grindelwald_5306

5 ай бұрын

​@@Fulldrawflickingandstickingbruh

5 speeds on a 3kw hub is actually decent. Many are so large they're strictly 1x

can you please confirm if you bought from that exact seller? ND Ebike Factory Store- this seller. I had problems with scammers this year on AliExpress but I want to order this kit. Thanks in advance

@porkercon

4 ай бұрын

We have bought multiple different kits all from different sellers and have had no problems.

@pubga5730

4 ай бұрын

@@porkercon 1000w is the easiest to buy, but this 3000w doesn't have many sellers

@pubga5730

4 ай бұрын

@@porkercon I am looking exclusively for a mtx set

@porkercon

4 ай бұрын

@@pubga5730 Usually you can customize your order with which rim you want

@pubga5730

4 ай бұрын

@@porkercon in Europe they have max 1500w 48v

How much for my carrera

The universal measurement system unit "a finger"

Bro what battery is it and how many volts

@porkercon

3 ай бұрын

72v s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDFXHgJ

@Upsc-ou1lj

3 ай бұрын

@@porkercon I want to ask you that will 12inch 3kw hub motor can run on 60v 24.5ah and what will be the range that the battery will offer ?

@porkercon

3 ай бұрын

no clue@@Upsc-ou1lj

All that extra strength? Off road use only? My 3000w motor with an 80 amp controller on a 72v 20 a/h battery does 65 mph on a 25 year old Kona mountain bike and I use it everyday to go to work on. Most times I am at full speed going to work and I only use 2 torque arms with no welded frames for extra strength as its over kill and it's perfectly safe if you know how to handle the immense power it can throw at you. Nothing is too powerful !

@porkercon

9 ай бұрын

Frame is not welded. Better keep an eye on your dropout welds.

Nothing illegal riding that my friend ,i would consider spraying it silver to disguise its size,works in the uk

Might be illegal but they'll never catch you lol.

Use Common Sense, don’t risk your life. This is essentially an electric motorcycle on a bike frame. The bike frame is not made for this kind of power. This is one of those things where… you don’t do it just because you Can!! I will also point out that the kit is not waterproof and subject to uncontrolled running away if it gets wet!

Yes friendly advice you can't stick pieces of metal on top of weak metal and claim that is strengthened it because it won't what you've done without sounding rude is you bogged it what you should really do is cut the whole part out and put in stronger metal you're basically Dublin the speed of the bike but you're not doubling the strength of the frame to carry that and you will pay the consequences because you'll start cracking Worlds stability at high speeds my device is cut the whole back part out and easy peasy to world of fresh bit in you can weld it wider to fit the wheel in and you can weld it stronger which will last and will be a solid piece of metal always always uses less metal as possible because that's where your strength comes not by putting one piece on top of another piece unless it runs down the whole length of the frame good luck don't gamble your life on I'm sure that'll be alright

@porkercon

7 ай бұрын

You're wrong, I'm right. Buy us an aluminum welder and training and I might do what you said.

@bearmvp99

6 ай бұрын

@porkecon is right because these hub motors are not powerful enough to rip apart whole rear triangle of aluminum mtb frame. These torque arms ar mainly to strengthen dropouts because without toque arms you will break original dropout slots when accelerating and motor will rip off it's own wires😂 cool project btw

I never understand why people say things like “1000w , 3000w, 5000w ebike” as if that’s what type of power they are pushing. These numbers are the potential power if you have that type of power to send to it. Yes 72v at 24ah could produce 1728w. But that controller and the thin gauge wire would never push higher than 200w. And if your battery has a BMS, it is definitively limiting you to around 10a max All this before it hits the controller. That controller is limiting your actual power. Without a doubt. A real 1000w to the hub motor light bike frame wouldn’t be able to lock a tire on the pavement. At 200w you should be able to pull 70. At 1000w you should be over a hundred.

@porkercon

8 ай бұрын

Blame the people selling them as that. 350w motors are garbage and go slow. A "1500w" motor we have on a bike gets really really hot when using it, I wouldn't want to imagine what it would do if it was truly getting 1500w.

@JohnDoe-ht5vq

8 ай бұрын

Companies mark these Hub motors as 1500w or what ever wattage because they are "capable" of reaching that threshhold. But the question is always, for how long? 5-10 seconds at max? and then they need to cool down. I mean, I doubt people are going full throttle to the wall every second they drive but still...@@porkercon

@speedsterh

8 ай бұрын

"72v at 24ah could produce 1728w" Nope this means the battery has a capacity of 1728 Wh. It has to do with range not power. The amperage of that FAT battery is much more than 24 amps (probably at least 80 amps). I think the battery and this motor are a good match.

@JohnDoe-ht5vq

8 ай бұрын

@@speedsterh If we are assuming this is a real 3000w motor, then it would need 42a to reach its potential energy. Looking at the bike, wiring, even from the motor to the controller, its way too thin guaged to handle that power. It would over heat, short, melt in moments.... My theory is that yes, the motor "could" be 3000w, but that controller is severely limiting its power to the motor. This is also assuming that battery is capable of discharging 42a without over heating or having some sort of thermal disaster. There would need to be a BMS system to deal with these issues. But this bike has a "dumb" battery. Therefore, my grief is when companies put inferior parts on a bike, but then say "oh its 3000w because the motor is 3000w" but then battery, wiring, controller are only capable of lets say 1000w... It's a scam. super scummy.

@JaymoJoints

7 ай бұрын

84v hot off the charger x 60 amps = 5,040 watts. That's your peak; it won't run quite that strong for sustained pulls. I imagine this setup easily holds 3-4 kilowatts at full throttle. If it didn't there's no way he'd hit 84 kmh/52 mph @@JohnDoe-ht5vq

the 5 speed isnt to bad when you have 3kw of help lol

Will it go 70!??

@porkercon

5 ай бұрын

83 km/h

Get a car beside you or if you have one of those radar setups on the road close to you to really test true speed. That display will not be right, actually I have not seen one right yet.

@porkercon

7 ай бұрын

ok I will try with GPS

i think its better to use a steel frame or much better a custom steel frame...

@porkercon

3 ай бұрын

I agree

Why do people use disc brakes on bikes?? Doesnt the v-brake have way more stopping force because it is farthest from the center of the rotation? This is just basic physics. Or do people get discs for vanity?

@porkercon

4 ай бұрын

Rim brakes are good yes, discs allow you to have a more predictable braking surface, better modulation, better pad material that you can't use on rim brakes. Way to many reasons to go disc when the only reason to go with rim is the distance from centre of rotation.

@miket.220

Ай бұрын

Biggest advantage would be if he installed hydraulic brakes. Mech disk brakes are about the same stopping power as good v-brakes, but the disks do work a little better under certain conditions, like if the rim gets wet.

@porkercon

Ай бұрын

@@miket.220 kzread.info/dash/bejne/gHeY0cSHdNfafbA.html

get a better controller.. 50amps max output you have,,, get a 120 amp controller.

can you do a 72v 3000w ebike battery giveaway where I am the only person that an enter the giveaway? i need that battery to replace on my electric motorcyle

@porkercon

9 ай бұрын

lol

Help me so much thank u I'm out on my bike and it's crazy fast 😂😂😂😂

I'm calling the cops 😮

I don't understand why you build something like this if you are so negative. Then spend more money on better parts, frame, controller, etc. Btw, you don't have to install the pedal assist if you have a throttle

@porkercon

9 ай бұрын

I didn't build it, someone else did and I filmed it. We are aware of that but we want the option to use pedal assist.

It's 2000watt not 3000watt hub motor

@porkercon

2 ай бұрын

who told you

Maybe we should all start a Go FUND Me Campaign for construction on a future ''Library of Banned Ebikes '' The Police Departments can't sell them back into the community once they confiscate them, so they got to be housed somewhere, otherwise, they'll just be destroyed or scraped,

Lol why bother with the pedal assist....

@professionaleejit5927

Ай бұрын

It looks legal lol

Drop uot? or Drop out? LOL

@porkercon

9 ай бұрын

uuuuit

@JaymoJoints

7 ай бұрын

Canadian rednecks are the best rednecks

Terrible frame to do this with. Has no suspension, it's a waste of Battery and Motor. Get a better frame with full suspension

@porkercon

11 ай бұрын

Such an inspiring comment. Not very hard to swap this onto a different frame down the road when the BUDGET for this build gets HIGHER.

@drze1k72

10 ай бұрын

Tbh with a triangle battery 72v that size, you’d struggle to find a full suspension bike that could fit the battery, you’d have to get a 48v

@paulmryglod4802

9 ай бұрын

I have a nearly identical setup using a 17.5 hardtail with everything else upgraded. Same bag, same hub size. 1000 miles so far and it's great.

You make this long video and can’t even ride the bike ……. FAIL!!!

@porkercon

3 ай бұрын

Uploaded the riding clip as a separate video.

@AtomicB-zq2cw

3 ай бұрын

@@porkercon poor excuse.

@porkercon

3 ай бұрын

@@AtomicB-zq2cw no

Are you selling it

Building an e bike is not a crime.

@porkercon

2 ай бұрын

Riding it on public streets over 32km/h is