Always happy to see tips that can help people that have never had the fun of dealing with "points" style ignitions, you can't beat the electronic ignition. Great content as always.

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

Points aren’t to bad to set up for the most part, biggest reasons for upgrading was reliability and cost. This kit is less expensive then a set of points. Now hopefully it is more reliable, We shall see

@Joe7166

Жыл бұрын

Points are perfectly fine IF they are of good quality that would not float at high RPMs because of weak spring pressures..Enter Acell, Mallory,ect... Earlier solutions were duel point distributors that jointly created more coil saturation with less points strain...Finally magnetos..They were unbeatable

Excellent detail on why you are upgrading the ignition, thanks for explaining.

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

Great work, your project is really coming together.

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

Getting closer to haven’t it back on the ground.

Excelente video buddy I like the way you brake everything down please make a video of installing the Ignition distributor and timing gotta save them birds 🐦 👍

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy and will do.

Hi John, Glade you did this one. Keep us up on how this unit holds up over time. I am a old Delco points guy for all my GM cars as I still use a dwell meter and found out the old Delco points with the condenser screw on them have the strongest spring tension on the contact point so you can top out rpm much higher than with Blue strek or Standard brand points. ( I got a part # for them in my glove box but can't get to it now.) I do run HEIs in my SBC Chevy's but still got points in my Bird. Question? did you really drop the Dist on the FENDER !!! of a 400 hood car !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG your killin me here son with the Homer Simson move ! Duuuoooooh . If you heard a noise after that happened, that was my nuts hittin the floor ! Firebird fenders make tearable work benches, they get enough of that on the side of the road.

@charlieseidelmann6702

Жыл бұрын

😳😁😂🤣😎

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

Hey I am not perfect… all the time. It was a bone head move to drop it, fortunately this car is in the beginning stages of body work so no real damage. I would never use a finished car as a work bench, maybe 😉 Points are great especially the delco ones but the prices!! Wow they must be gold plated now. I will keep you posted on the durability worse case plan if they fail is return to the delco point set.

Pontiac had factory Electronic ignition long before HEI starting in 1963 with transistorized ignition. They were the first division before Chevrolet started using it in 64 in the Corvette

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

I was told years ago Pontiac was GM’s experimental Line and they did a lot of firsts. I don’t have any proof to that but this supports that theory

The module in that unit is the old Mallory unilite trigger design. It is VERY voltage sensitive!!!!!!! 7.2 to 9 volts is what the Mallory unit liked. Once you get the pumpkin together, check the voltage for spikes outside that range when the lights, heater or radio are on/off. It will never kill a module at home……. Always at the cruise in or car show. It does also like a coil that is specifically for an “ electronic “ trigger. It will overheat and boil a points coil.

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

good POINT 😜, I might just buy an extra module and keep it in the glove box just in case. still cheaper than a set of points.

@ercost60

Жыл бұрын

So just keep the stock ballast resistor in place, same as Pertronix.

I put an HFI distributor on my firebird but haven't tried it yet. I wish I had known about that kit you used before I bought it. It would have been much cheaper. The HFI is much bigger than the original distributor but still has enough clearance to the firewall.

@hydroy1

Жыл бұрын

True, HEI will fit in back there, but it is reeeeeally tight on the first gen F bodys

@stevenpringle7813

Жыл бұрын

@@hydroy1 yes, I remember it was tight but it has enough clearance that I thought it would be fine even with any engine movement while running etc. I guess I will find out when I get it running.

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

I have an hei on my 1969 coupe it works great. I used the pointed distributor on this car because it has all brand new ignition parts and it was the cheapest way to go. Trying to conserve money, my money tree is not doing well it seems 🤣

@stevenpringle7813

Жыл бұрын

@@VinylVillageGarage You need a money tree when you work on these cars. Way too many little parts that all add up to way too much money. I live in Canada so I have the exchange rate, brokerage fees, and taxes to deal with so it's even worse. It kind of sucks the fun out of it when you order parts and get bent over.

@Joe7166

Жыл бұрын

Unlike a points distrbutor, HEI mechanical advance was only 15-24 degrees and . for emissions, more advance was made up with the vacuum advance..If you use HEI, you have to re curve it for maximum 36 degrees with base and centrifugal advance..Limit the vacuum advance to 10 degrees with cast iron heads

Nice, ever consider MSD? (side note great shirt, I heard they may go on tour if all works out and last night I was able to see WASP at the Paramount)

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

I have yet to play with any of the MSD stuff, I have only done HEI, factory points, pertonix and now accel. i think MSD makes great stuff, just more then I want to spend. I see a huge benefit if I planned on racing my car. lol, thanks for noticing the shirt, I saw pantera in concert in 94 with white zombie yes white zombie. would enjoy seeing what’s left of them one more time for sure.

Good video. So does it work?

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

Yup works great so far. It only had about 2 hours of run time on it at this point.

hope that thing works. I bought a new small HEI distributer and cap with coil from a company on ebay, came with plug wires. Could not get fire with it. Dunno what i did wrong but I think wasn't wired correctly. Went back to the reg HEI distributer with big cap and have clearance issues with firewall but it runs. I think I am getting some engine vibration from the distributer cap making contact with the fire wall.

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

I have heard of firewall clearance issues but never experienced it with the HEI. I have installed them on probably 15 birds. Wonder why some cars have the problem. Wish I could see some pictures.

@perrywe1

Жыл бұрын

@@VinylVillageGarage I will send you some pics of my ride. Thanks Jon

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

Yes please, what engine mounts are you running

@perrywe1

Жыл бұрын

@@VinylVillageGarage standard gm SBC

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, now I have to know the answer

Have you ever done a vid on removing chrome trim on exterior of car?

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

not yet, wish i did when doing the great pumpkin disassembly. quick tip when it comes to the drip rail trim, use an aluminum bottle opener to help pop it off without damage to the trim

@Joe7166

Жыл бұрын

@@VinylVillageGarage Check out my friend Pete ... kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6J7l7dwf7nNhbQ.html

did you make that wood arrowhead hanging on your wall?

@hydroy1

Жыл бұрын

LOL ----- I noticed it to. Needs to be stained & clear coated.

@eric530

Жыл бұрын

@@hydroy1 I have a large bird emblem i made out of wood.

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

Nope my coworker did, I repaired and painted his bumper for his mustang and he gave that to me in exchange. It’s cool wall art for the garage

@hydroy1

Жыл бұрын

@@eric530 Yeah, were all kind like that. Had a buddy with a 68 400 car that made a 6 foot first gen Bird out of heavy thick cardboard he put it on a stand, and I sealed it in exopy primer and painted it correct red & black base coat and free handed all the silver then cleared it in Imron. Took over a week. It was left out on the rain at a POCI car show a few years later, wasn't much good after that.

@hydroy1

Жыл бұрын

@@VinylVillageGarage Did you spray it with RAID to kill off all the Ford koodiees ??? can't have any of that around GM muscle or they tend to backfire !. lol. Yeah, I owned a Ford ! NEVER AGAIN !

Do you have the link or part number for this?

@chrisbohannon5031

Жыл бұрын

Cool shirt by the way. 🤘

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

2010acc was the part number on eBay and it was item number 223185346551 when I bought it.

@VinylVillageGarage

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I thought it was appropriate