If Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane were included on Sgt Pepper

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"Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Penny lane" were recorded at the beginning of the Sgt Pepper sessions, but were released as a single in early 1967 and not included on the album "Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" which was released a few months later. George Martin said that not including them on Pepper was perhaps the greatest mistake of his career. Of course he's right. Arguably the greatest album of all time would have been unarguably the greatest album of all time.
After seemingly infinite possible rearrangements, most people feel that it's important to maintain the basic order and integrity of the Sgt Pepper track sequence. After all, one of the main reasons it is so influential and iconic is because of the order of songs and the great segueways -- the continuous track flow was revolutionary. So how might it have worked?
Since each side is roughly the same length, it makes most sense to add one additional song to each side. Side 1 is slightly shorter, so the longer of the 2 would fit onto side one better, logistically. And also artistically.
i feel it is important that Sgt Pepper begin with the iconic crowd noise and opening sgt pepper track, and finish with a day in the life.
And while it is tempting to say the ending of Mr Kite and the beginning of within you are both sacrosanct, i think the abrupt conclusion of Mr Kite would be a perfect lead-in to an even better last track of side one: the slow, mysterious mellotron of Strawberry Fields, with the final fade-out drums playing into the inner vinyl groove ending (as side 2 of the original vinyl did).
That means side 2 would begin with the bright sound of Penny Lane and that song's final horn note and white noise segues perfectly into the rhythmless tambura of Within You Without You.
To get a feel of how the mix of Mr Kite and Strawberry Fields would blend and end side 1, and how Penny Lane beginning side 2 and segueway into Within you, would sound, i edited a few seconds of fair-use snippets from those 4 songs to show how it would flow. Let me know what you think.

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  • @OnlineGloom
    @OnlineGloom Жыл бұрын

    Wtf that transition from Penny Lane into Within You Without You goes so hard 🔥🔥🔥

  • @AlexThe1Menace

    @AlexThe1Menace

    Жыл бұрын

    Ikr? Shit is cool as hell lol

  • @ahmetsolgun8607

    @ahmetsolgun8607

    Жыл бұрын

    Gave me chills

  • @thirdhandlv4231

    @thirdhandlv4231

    Жыл бұрын

    They simply have similarities within their opening and closing, both slowly go out/in.

  • @AlexThe1Menace

    @AlexThe1Menace

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thirdhandlv4231 yeah and it works really well so what's your point

  • @thirdhandlv4231

    @thirdhandlv4231

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AlexThe1Menace I wasn't even being negative, just pointing out how easy it is to make a fluid transition when the tracks share a similar closing melody to the other songs starting melody.

  • @roccopp
    @roccopp Жыл бұрын

    That penny lane to within without you is perfection

  • @glenchapman3899

    @glenchapman3899

    Жыл бұрын

    It takes a lot to give me goosebumps. That transition definitely did it for me

  • @wellesradio

    @wellesradio

    Жыл бұрын

    The Beatles wouldn’t have done it though. They would have put a two to three second gap between tracks. They were still recording on a 4 track and it would have sounded too muddy. We could clean it up now but at the time it would have sounded bad and been pointless. Now if they wanted to make it sound uninterrupted, that’s different. But the fade out/in overlapping wouldn’t be there.

  • @kelechi_77

    @kelechi_77

    5 ай бұрын

    @@wellesradio many concept albums that came out at the time did similar stuff, it would just be a simple fade from track to track

  • @wellesradio

    @wellesradio

    5 ай бұрын

    @@kelechi_77 the Beatles didn’t though.

  • @Beatleslover3

    @Beatleslover3

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly!

  • @philwillett9102
    @philwillett9102 Жыл бұрын

    The fade out to "Penny Lane" sounds like it would blend perfectly into the intro of " A Day in the Life"

  • @Beatleslover3

    @Beatleslover3

    3 ай бұрын

    Fr

  • @DeSlagen8

    @DeSlagen8

    3 ай бұрын

    I think the reprise fits very well too

  • @scmarshall83

    @scmarshall83

    3 ай бұрын

    You can’t fuck with the last three tracks running order or the universe would explode.

  • @philwillett9102

    @philwillett9102

    3 ай бұрын

    Hells yea!@@DeSlagen8

  • @kaneinkansas

    @kaneinkansas

    3 ай бұрын

    A Day in the Life is made twice or four times better by being listened to with the Reprise right before it like a medley - the Reprise is a hard rocking sung in 4 part harmony that slides right into a Day in the Life perfectly. Perfectly. Where I grew up the radio statioins NEVER played a Day in the Life without playing the Reprise before it.

  • @carlosrojas1758
    @carlosrojas1758 Жыл бұрын

    If Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane were included on Sgt. Pepper, the album would be ringing at the heaven's door.

  • @luginess0

    @luginess0

    3 ай бұрын

    It would be far and away the best of the best never to have competition... except...

  • @Azoria4
    @Azoria4 Жыл бұрын

    if these two were included this would be my favourite album

  • @ERASEREPLACEPLACE
    @ERASEREPLACEPLACE Жыл бұрын

    I've always felt that Sgt. Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour should have been a double album. ASTONISHED at how many people react as if I'm insane because of that.

  • @wellesradio

    @wellesradio

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s like saying they should combine all of the LOTR trilogy and The Hobbit into one 8 hour made for TV movie.

  • @TundieRice

    @TundieRice

    Жыл бұрын

    ⁠I disagree, they’re similar in sound, but definitely still two separate releases with their own concepts and musical directions. I think it’s very cool that The Beatles managed to release two bona-fide *classics* in the year of 1967, and I think it would dilute the greatness of those two releases to combine them into one. The White Album worked perfectly as a double album because of how disjointed yet somehow cohesive the songs were, but I don’t think that combining Pepper and MMT would have a similar effect, it would just be too much of a good thing in my opinion.

  • @ronlapworth5805

    @ronlapworth5805

    Жыл бұрын

    You're insane.

  • @HarryNilssonCatalogue

    @HarryNilssonCatalogue

    Жыл бұрын

    The general flow of Sgt. Pepper's would be thrown all out of whack with a lot of Magical Mystery Tour's songs. The style similarities are certanly there, but not enough.

  • @daviddowns7552

    @daviddowns7552

    10 ай бұрын

    pepper was originally intended on being a double album using songs from mmt. but time and money didnt allow that. and record companies dont really like double albums from all ive read.

  • @Nelson10Hernandez
    @Nelson10Hernandez3 ай бұрын

    What If "Rain" and "paperback Writer" were on Revolver?

  • @sexobscura

    @sexobscura

    3 ай бұрын

    if ...

  • @Freedom2111

    @Freedom2111

    3 ай бұрын

    It would have been even better (they should have left off I Want To Tell You). And if We Can Work It Out and Day Tripper were on Rubber Soul, instead of What Goes On. And how about Hey Jude on the White Album instead of Revolution 9?

  • @sexobscura

    @sexobscura

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Freedom2111 I guess your comment is your personal opinion, which I understand, but I personally could do without 'Hey Jude' and find 'Revolution 9' a brilliant and indispensable collaboration of artistic 'realisation'

  • @Fuzcapp

    @Fuzcapp

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Freedom2111 Or maybe just have the Hey Jude album as a canon Beatles album without the first two tracks.

  • @dementedgamer0810
    @dementedgamer08103 ай бұрын

    THE TRANSITION FROM MR KITE TO STRAWBERRY FIELDS IS THE BEST

  • @wheatbreadcrumbs
    @wheatbreadcrumbs6 күн бұрын

    If I could like this a thousand times I would, and then some. This is how I listen to Sgt Pepper now and it really makes it go from great to perfect

  • @redadamearth
    @redadamearth Жыл бұрын

    There are so many great Beatles songs and songs from their solo careers that making "alternate" Bealtes albums is a hobby in itself. It's tons of fun.

  • @ultramet
    @ultramet3 ай бұрын

    Somewhere, in alternate universe, this exists. Thank you for visiting our universe and bringing us this gift 😮

  • @raylee3057
    @raylee3057 Жыл бұрын

    Without a doubt, they should have been included on this album.....

  • @apexjoe4769
    @apexjoe47693 ай бұрын

    If these two classics were included on Sgt. Pepper it would have been a photo finish with Abbey Road as their best Beatles album.

  • @omerzilberman975
    @omerzilberman975 Жыл бұрын

    Life would be a dream....

  • @pixelperfect1729
    @pixelperfect1729 Жыл бұрын

    If Sgt Pepper’s and MMT were one album. 1. Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band 2. With a Little Help from My Friends 3. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds 4. Getting Better 5. Magical Mystery Tour 6. Your Mother Should Know 7. Fixing a Hole 8. She’s Leaving Home 9. The Fool On The Hill 10. Strawberry Fields Forever 11. Being For the Benefit of Mr. Kite 12. Flying 13. Within You Without You 14. Blue Jay Way 15. Good Morning Good Morning 16. Lovely Rita 17. Baby, You’re a Rich Man 18. When I’m Sixty-Four 19. Penny Lane 20. Hello, Goodbye 21. I Am the Walrus 22. All You Need Is Love 23. Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise) 24. A Day In the Life

  • @malupit8ian

    @malupit8ian

    Жыл бұрын

    It's gonna become 2 lp project like the white album

  • @Samir14069

    @Samir14069

    Жыл бұрын

    Best album oat

  • @ivverivve0049

    @ivverivve0049

    Жыл бұрын

    @@malupit8ian And still fit on one CD

  • @jbognap

    @jbognap

    Жыл бұрын

    If this were a double album, there is no question it would be considered the greatest, and there might not have even been the White Album, as it is. Time to create that Spotify playlist.

  • @Ash-fd6lw

    @Ash-fd6lw

    Жыл бұрын

    While I agree that would be a bonzer album, I don't think it should be. They were two very distinct projects. I would propose as an alternative put Penny and Strawberry onto Pepper, and add the Yellow Sub tracks and other singles onto the MMT album, and not have a YSub album at all. Because even though MMT and YSub were also two distinct projects, they have a commonality in both being soundtracks, but also both not being long enough to be single albums (leaving out all the Martin instrumental stuff). Basically it would be taking the Capitol idea of enlarging the MMT EP into an album by including the singles and compensating for the loss of Penny and Strawberry with the new Y Sub songs. But what would I know...

  • @joxidearmageddonator882
    @joxidearmageddonator8823 ай бұрын

    aw man this was amazing. That transition from Penny Lane into Within You Without You was perfection

  • @TheShamblingUnknown
    @TheShamblingUnknown3 ай бұрын

    Tricky, but by God man you've done it !

  • @robertlouisburns
    @robertlouisburns2 ай бұрын

    You inspired me to make a CD in this order. Thank you so much. I have Strawberry & Penny before the Sgt. LP, but it made sense to have a mix like this. CHEERS!!

  • @joseluisnietoenriquez6122
    @joseluisnietoenriquez61223 жыл бұрын

    I respectfully disagree. I would put "Strawberry Fields Forever" on side 1 between "Fixing a Hole" and "She's Leaving Home". Then I would put "Penny Lane" on side 2 between "Lovely Rita" and "Good Morning Good Morning" adding very few seconds of silence between "Lovely Rita" and "Penny Lane", so it doesn't feel like a rush . But that's simply what makes ME feel a better flow between high vs low energy moments, and weird vs happy feeling moments, and also the changes in keys between songs. But the beatles and their crew would have made a better job, obviously.

  • @shocks413

    @shocks413

    Жыл бұрын

    🤓

  • @phlog_dog7336

    @phlog_dog7336

    Жыл бұрын

    When I'm Sixty-Four > Lovely Rita > Penny Lane is too much Paul in a row for my taste

  • @drew9719

    @drew9719

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah

  • @fabmusicom436

    @fabmusicom436

    Жыл бұрын

    Lo único que puedo agregar... es que con esas dos canciones dentro del álbum... el Sgt. Pepper's hoy por hoy hubiera tenido más fuerza para seguir siendo considerado el mejor LP de todos los tiempos y no habría sido desplazado como se ve en algunas publicaciones especializadas. Dicen que el Abbey Road ha tenido mejor vejez... Para terminar diré que como The Beatles no hubo ni habrá otra banda cuyo aporte sigue vigente...

  • @vincentl.9469

    @vincentl.9469

    Жыл бұрын

    I would have cut out lovely Rita, within you without you , good morning; good morning-and definitely when i'm 64; dreadful song

  • @luizbenevides5198
    @luizbenevides5198 Жыл бұрын

    Great reasoning, but I'd swap them: Penny Lane is a great side-1-ender just after the abrupt ending of Mr. Kite because of its matching abrupt start, and its reminiscing gives you an extra incentive to flip the side to find Strawberry Fields, a lovely side-beginner with its mellotron and the train leading to a Eurasian voyage into India, with Within You Without You

  • @DaveRucci
    @DaveRucci Жыл бұрын

    That was great dude! Love those transitions and the thought you Put into this. I never knew Martin regretted not adding these 2 to Pepper.

  • @wellesradio

    @wellesradio

    Жыл бұрын

    Can he really regret it though? It wasn’t his call to make, and he asked them to consider it.

  • @nectarinedreams7208

    @nectarinedreams7208

    3 ай бұрын

    @@wellesradio Well, he did regret it.

  • @snoopsistired
    @snoopsistired4 жыл бұрын

    This is great!

  • @guighs6477
    @guighs6477 Жыл бұрын

    Holy shit man

  • @penepleto1210
    @penepleto1210 Жыл бұрын

    I go beyond this and just wish that Sgt. Pepper's and Magical Mystery Tour were just one double album

  • @atomeyes99

    @atomeyes99

    Жыл бұрын

    tough one. MMT's so weird on its own and i honestly think it's one of the beatles' top 3 albums. some days i put it before Revolver. Just not sure how "MMT", "Fool on the Hill" and "Flying" fit into Peppers' mood. the whole album's more moodily psycheledic than Peppers is. having them as 2 separate albums is fine with me.

  • @StephenHaaugh
    @StephenHaaugh2 ай бұрын

    Producer George Martin said leaving Penny Lane /Strawberry Fields off Sgt Pepper album was a big regret and John was disappointed not to have SF on the album .They would have fitted in perfectly to the continuity and theme of the album and could have replaced, when im 64 / within you without you ,which could have been released as a double sided single

  • @robertlouisburns
    @robertlouisburns2 ай бұрын

    THIS IS WONDERFUL!!! I am going to make an alternate Sgt CD like this but they only thing I would change is to use the Rarities version of Penny Lane since is the stereo version with the trumpet tagged in at the end. Thank for the inspiration!

  • @Beatleslover3
    @Beatleslover33 ай бұрын

    Love the transitions

  • @cesarotero2089
    @cesarotero2089 Жыл бұрын

    Both Cross overs sound terrific My friend.

  • @shanecahill4381
    @shanecahill4381 Жыл бұрын

    Well……. I’ve had that and each album since rubber soul from the day they were released here in Australia. I don’t care what others say…….. you did it to perfection an I love that idea

  • @matthewgiffin9305
    @matthewgiffin9305 Жыл бұрын

    Yes! I will now alter my playlist accordingly!

  • @Kanarie1973
    @Kanarie1973 Жыл бұрын

    There's no room for two extra songs on the album. It's more likely that weaker songs like Lovely Rita and Good Morning Good Morning would have been dropped or never been made at all. The idea of ending side 1 with Strawberry Fields en starting side 2 with Penny Lane, is great!

  • @Meneervdberg

    @Meneervdberg

    3 ай бұрын

    I prefer Lovely Rita over Getting Better!

  • @lukess.s

    @lukess.s

    3 ай бұрын

    George Martin said that he'd have dropped When I'm Sixty Four and Lovely Rita.

  • @Kanarie1973

    @Kanarie1973

    3 ай бұрын

    @@lukess.s Two Paul songs? Well, it would bring balance to the McCartney and Lennon contributions on Peppers, But I like When I'm Sixty Four.

  • @Meneervdberg

    @Meneervdberg

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Kanarie1973 I think When I'm Sixty Four is amazing!

  • @Kanarie1973

    @Kanarie1973

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Meneervdberg Me too. Originally a song from the early years, but on Sgt. Peppers it's a psychedelic masterpiece, with Pauls sped up voice.

  • @smokeylonesome4328
    @smokeylonesome43283 ай бұрын

    This is fantastic, but in my mind the two songs go best after When I’m 64 (replacing Lovely Rita and Good Morningx2).

  • @craig1538
    @craig1538 Жыл бұрын

    Someone should do a boot of the entire album in this style.

  • @wellesradio

    @wellesradio

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s called a playlist.

  • @jules130651
    @jules130651 Жыл бұрын

    I agree totally. Totally. And by the way, the White Album would have rivalled Sgt Pepper if they'd pruned it to a single album. There are some wonderful songs on it..and some real stinkers.

  • @TheWhitestArchiveUKnow
    @TheWhitestArchiveUKnow Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the piano chords at the beginning of penny lane could mesh with those guitar drone notes at the end of Strawberry Fields. that would be cool to see.

  • @stephenhosking7384
    @stephenhosking7384 Жыл бұрын

    Agreed, and well presented!

  • @reginaldperiwinkle
    @reginaldperiwinkle Жыл бұрын

    It's a fun idea, but I really like Sgt Pepper just as it is, and I really like Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane on Magical Mystery Tour. The album that I really think would have been improved by putting on the singles would be Rubber Soul -- replace "What Goes On" and either "Wait" or "Run for Your Life" with Day Tripper and We Can Work it Out and I think Rubber Soul becomes an even greater album than it already is.

  • @SeanSMST

    @SeanSMST

    Жыл бұрын

    For sure. Run for your life, after knowing about John's abusive history, makes that song unlistenable. It's creepy and disturbing as it is even without knowing John. Basically any other song shouldve replaced run for your life. I'd rather listen to revolution 9 or wild honey pie instead (if they were written that early).

  • @reginaldperiwinkle

    @reginaldperiwinkle

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SeanSMST I don't dislike it like you do. I actually like "Wait" and "Run for Your Life", but they just don't make it compared to Day Tripper and We Can Work it Out.

  • @Y-two-K

    @Y-two-K

    Жыл бұрын

    What Goes On for Day Tripper because Drive My Car to open Side A and Day Tripper to open Side B? Perfect. In my own customer playlist adding (but not replacing) singles to the albums, I do: Side 2 of Rubber Soul *Day Tripper What Goes On ... Run For Your Life *We Can Work It Out Side 2 of Revolver Good Day Sunshine *Rain ... Got To Get You Into My Life *Paperback Writer Tomorrow Never Knows

  • @desuMaKun

    @desuMaKun

    Жыл бұрын

    Wait, what? Wait??? Why Wait? =P

  • @HscoaMusicOfficial

    @HscoaMusicOfficial

    Жыл бұрын

    @@desuMaKun fr Wait is a top three song on Rubber Soul

  • @clevebaker8399
    @clevebaker83993 ай бұрын

    That arrangement would goof up Magical Mystery tour 😛🥳😘😉

  • @glowingblue9620
    @glowingblue9620 Жыл бұрын

    Supposedly Strawberry Fields Forever would appear in Sgt Pepper's instead of When I'm 64, but by decision of the producers or managers (I do not remember), When I'm 64 remained in the final tracklist.

  • @fabianugalde3789
    @fabianugalde3789 Жыл бұрын

    I had an alternate version playlist of this album simply called "A Day in the Life", which went like this: Side 1 1. Good Morning, Good Morning 2. The Fool on the Hill 3. Within You Without You 4. With A Little Help from my Friends 5. Penny Lane 6. She's Leaving Home 7. Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite Side 2 8. Strawberry Fields Forever 9. Blue Jay Way 10. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds 11. Fixing a Hole 12. Baby Your'e a Rich Man 13. All Together Now 14. A Day in the Life

  • @Freedom2111
    @Freedom21113 ай бұрын

    They should have left off Within You, Without You and put on those two songs.

  • @casparuskruger4807
    @casparuskruger4807 Жыл бұрын

    Nice. It would have been even a greater album than it was with these inclusions. The segue from "Penny Lane" to "Within You and Without You" actually is getting me choked up here pondering "what could have been"

  • @jalexander2635
    @jalexander26356 ай бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @albinnibla
    @albinnibla Жыл бұрын

    😍Wowie zowie! That works like a charm!😊

  • @monkface
    @monkface3 ай бұрын

    I once made a mix of pepper, magical mystery tour and yellow submarine. But I didn't cross fade like this!

  • @MordantMagic
    @MordantMagic3 ай бұрын

    I do think you've hit on the best way to stitch them in after the fact, but we'll unfortunately never know how knowing they'd be on the album from early on in its creation would've effected the style of other songs.

  • @jeffreyroedel9804
    @jeffreyroedel9804 Жыл бұрын

    Probably if PL and SFF were on Pepper then Lovely Rita would have been in the Magical Mystery Tour film/b-side from that era to be used on the US Magical Mystery Tour LP (could have had a whole Meter Maid sequence in that film related to the magic bus!), and When I'm 64 would have been saved for the Yellow Submarine film/soundtrack (because they were actively stockpiling 'leftovers' at that point for YS). The 64 sequence in YS is a great part of the film, so the song could have easily been making its debut in that capacity. Would have made sense.

  • @willswalkingwest7267
    @willswalkingwest7267 Жыл бұрын

    I'm on board!

  • @francibrasilis
    @francibrasilis3 ай бұрын

    Imagine that plus the Magical Mystery Tour album on one double record for 1967!

  • @normalsee4447
    @normalsee44473 ай бұрын

    I would have loved it if those had been included on Pepper but probably better somewhere in between the other songs leaving “A Day In The Life” as the closer 👍😆

  • @DanRelayer_Ukraine
    @DanRelayer_Ukraine Жыл бұрын

    thanks to MMT, I will never be able to associate SF and Penny with Sgt.

  • @sitvisjes
    @sitvisjes Жыл бұрын

    I'm sure if SFF and PL we're included Sgt. Pepper wouldn't be 15 tracks so 1 or 2 other tracks would have to go... My guess would be When i'm 64 and Lovely Rita or Good morning good morning (i like the song but it's my guess)

  • @austinmartens8662
    @austinmartens8662 Жыл бұрын

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I read, these two songs weren’t ever actually meant for Sgt. Pepper. The record company wanted them to release these two songs as singles since they hadn’t released anything in a while at that point, but the Beatles weren’t necessarily mad about it. I think Paul later said they usually preferred to release stuff as soon as it was ready rather than delaying it

  • @handle-schmandle
    @handle-schmandle Жыл бұрын

    I would keep everything exactly as it is. 👍

  • @mariaochenas3634
    @mariaochenas36343 ай бұрын

    Got this crazy idea: Sgt Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour, and Yellow Submarine as one insane double or triple album

  • @briancunningham3155
    @briancunningham3155Ай бұрын

    When I make my playlists I always incude Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane.

  • @acholl980
    @acholl980 Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, the whole B side of MMT should be in SP since they were done during the session. Though All You Need is Love was a live "Are Now" recording. Also when MGM reissued Yellow Submarine on DVD they reissued the soundtrack with all the song from the film (Sgt Pepper etc)

  • @nicolafiorillo4048

    @nicolafiorillo4048

    Жыл бұрын

    only strawberry fields and penny lane were recorded during the sgt pepper sessions, the rest of MMT was recorded after sgt pepper was released

  • @nicolafiorillo4048

    @nicolafiorillo4048

    Жыл бұрын

    oh amd baby you're a rich man

  • @Bruce15485
    @Bruce154853 ай бұрын

    I wished both those tracks were on Sgt Peppers, it fits nicely into the flow of the album !

  • @Fuzcapp
    @Fuzcapp Жыл бұрын

    For Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields to be included, something would have to be dropped - probably When I'm 64 - which would've been a shame. George martin ranks it as the biggest mistake of his career, leaving Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields off Sgt Peppers. But they fit so well on the Magical Mystery LP - and Sgt Peppers worked out pretty well as it is, so maybe it was serendipitous.

  • @TheHeater90

    @TheHeater90

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think so, When I'm 64 fits way too well into the music hall aspect of the album's theme for them to have left it off. Plus it's extremely catchy.

  • @Fuzcapp

    @Fuzcapp

    23 күн бұрын

    @@TheHeater90 Yeah - it's an impossible call as to what has to be taken off. Paul had so much influence over Sgt peppers that maybe When I'm 64 would've stayed. i just know that John didn't like it, so it might've been a candidate. i agree that it's super catchy and fits with the music hall vibe. And in the end, it's one of the Beatles' best known tracks. True fact - Now and Then was released on my 64th birthday. 🙂

  • @kaneinkansas
    @kaneinkansas3 ай бұрын

    In my mind, the smart move would to end side 1 with Strawberry Fields, and start side 2 with Penny Lane.

  • @mokamo23

    @mokamo23

    2 ай бұрын

    That's what I proposed.

  • @ricardo_miguel13
    @ricardo_miguel13 Жыл бұрын

    the side flip of the vinyl would have been there somewhere tho

  • @bobg6638
    @bobg66383 ай бұрын

    George Martin’s biggest regret was not putting them on Sgt. Pepper. I like Pepper, but even more so had they been included.

  • @TomsRetroGames
    @TomsRetroGames3 ай бұрын

    Technically there wouldn’t be a transition from kite to strawberry fields as that would start side 2

  • @Jay-nq2jl
    @Jay-nq2jl3 ай бұрын

    They actually wanted them on their but had a lot of pressure from Brian to release something early. Best single ever released

  • @hungryconfidence1562
    @hungryconfidence1562 Жыл бұрын

    If strawberry fields and penny lane were both added in sgt pepper's and not as singles, i would say sgt pepper's would truly be the best album ever made, even better than abbey road

  • @tygovisser5626
    @tygovisser5626 Жыл бұрын

    I used to think strawberry fields came right after lucy in the sky with diamonds

  • @SQGReviewShow
    @SQGReviewShow3 ай бұрын

    I do wish Strawberry Fields was in Sgt. Pepper, but I'm kind of glad it didn't because Magical Mystery Tour is another great album. It felt like Sgt. Pepper 2.0.

  • @BRboi777
    @BRboi777 Жыл бұрын

    It would be cool to see Beatles fans being able to make Spotify playlists of these what ifs. I'll wait :)

  • @SonofMrPeanut
    @SonofMrPeanut Жыл бұрын

    See, I'd put "Penny Lane (Promo Version)" after WALHFMF and do a double-tracked end trumpet flourish into "Lucy in the Sky w/ Diamonds."

  • @garyowens1517
    @garyowens1517 Жыл бұрын

    I have an American rarities beatles album I bought inn1980. It contains a version of penny Lane with an extra horn section at the end. Not been able to find it anywhere else.

  • @PaisleyPatchouli

    @PaisleyPatchouli

    3 ай бұрын

    That was just the radio single version, (mono, I think) with 7 extra notes on the piccolo cornet (trumpet) played at the very end over the outro/crescendo... I always miss it.

  • @pierredubois719
    @pierredubois7194 ай бұрын

    That "mistake" became a historically colossal double A-side single. And the album, of course, stands on its own; cramming those songs into it is like whittling the White Album down to a single record, as some like to do. It is what it is. As George liked to say, "It's all part of the soup."

  • @YnotNomis
    @YnotNomis Жыл бұрын

    "Only a Northern Song" were recorded during the sessions as well.

  • @TheJayson8899

    @TheJayson8899

    Жыл бұрын

    Best to leave that off

  • @acholl980

    @acholl980

    Жыл бұрын

    That was in Yellow Submarine.

  • @jonothanthrace1530
    @jonothanthrace15303 ай бұрын

    I still think the canonical version of Penny Lane should be the one with the extra horn line from Rarities.

  • @mokamo23

    @mokamo23

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes. The single version

  • @abbarules
    @abbarules Жыл бұрын

    You also have to add Only a Northern Song to make it complete.

  • @jahgust

    @jahgust

    Жыл бұрын

    See my reply above!

  • @danielgrubb9668
    @danielgrubb9668 Жыл бұрын

    I think this works…if you dump When I’m 64 and Lovely Rita.

  • @Kpictures_NYC
    @Kpictures_NYC Жыл бұрын

    Why did they decide to not put these songs on the album? Was it George Martins decision/influence?

  • @andrewbevan4662
    @andrewbevan46623 ай бұрын

    ...but then what tracks would they have put on the American release of the Magical Mystery Tour album

  • @mokamo23

    @mokamo23

    2 ай бұрын

    Good question. Perhaps Lady Madonna and the inner light

  • @eliasmg9144
    @eliasmg91443 ай бұрын

    Honestly... I get the idea, but for me those two songs will forever be magical mystery tour songs

  • @arthurkluver
    @arthurkluver Жыл бұрын

    I made my own cd back in the nii

  • @andrewallen1083
    @andrewallen1083 Жыл бұрын

    Those 2 songs on the album make it the best of all time ; as it stands its one of the best of all time.

  • @vincentl.9469

    @vincentl.9469

    Жыл бұрын

    as it stands, it's a mixed bag of good, very good and dreadful

  • @atomeyes99

    @atomeyes99

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vincentl.9469 which are your dreadful songs?

  • @vincentl.9469

    @vincentl.9469

    Жыл бұрын

    @@atomeyes99 when i'm sixty four-a song Lennon described as granny music, as is Lovely Rita. Good morning Good morning. I've read in the past John came up with this to fill a gap before the next one. i've never liked Harrison's Indian themed song. People then & now, read too much into some of that stuff, looking for hidden messages and so on. It's just pop music. ' A Day in the Life' and 'For the benefit of Mr. Kite are the two that stand out fir me...

  • @reginaldcampos5762

    @reginaldcampos5762

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@vincentl.9469 I think good morning is the only song in the album that brings it down. That's my opinion, though.

  • @simonstrash
    @simonstrash3 ай бұрын

    if only they had the 2 - 3 year album cycle common in pop today we could've had the one album with all the best stuff of sgt pepper, revolver and magical mystery tour without the granny music like actually the greatest album

  • @leebritnell8668
    @leebritnell8668 Жыл бұрын

    If that were the case i reckon it'd be a slightly longer album.

  • @waqtube
    @waqtube3 ай бұрын

    If they were included in Sgt Peppers lonely hearts club band then they wouldn't have been knocked off the charts by Engelbert!

  • @raulvidal2343
    @raulvidal2343 Жыл бұрын

    I'd place Strawberry Fields Forever at the end of side A, so both sides end with an epic baroque pop song with a false ending. Then Penny Lane would be the second song of side B after Within You Without You so there is a better transition between its heavy psychedelic sound and the bubblegummy When I'm Sixty Four. Also this way both sides have a McCartney trilogy (Getting Better-Fixing a Hole-She's Leaving Home in Side A, and Penny Lane-When I'm Sixty Four-Lovely Rita in Side B).

  • @Loz4287
    @Loz42873 ай бұрын

    George Martin is on record saying that dropping SF and PL from Sgt Peppers was one of his biggest mistakes. The question is what songs would you drop in their place?

  • @oleplanthafer7034
    @oleplanthafer7034 Жыл бұрын

    Leaving them out of the album was one of, if not thee, biggest regret of George Martin's in his career. Especially due to this single also losing to Englebert's "Please Release Me" on the British charts....

  • @casparuskruger4807

    @casparuskruger4807

    Жыл бұрын

    The girls didn't like the Beatles so much by this time. It was all about The Monkees and the crooners in 1967.

  • @robertbrescia3196

    @robertbrescia3196

    3 ай бұрын

    The Beatles actually sent Engelbert Humperdinck a congratulatory telegram for holding on to the No. 1 position in the British charts for six weeks, thereby keeping Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields stuck at No. 2 for four weeks.

  • @hooverboy2331
    @hooverboy2331 Жыл бұрын

    Na ,how would they have squeezed an extra 2 tracks in ,the sound quality on pepper was already exhausted as it was ?

  • @RingoWaters-kl4vo

    @RingoWaters-kl4vo

    3 ай бұрын

    Sacrifice good morning and lovely Rita

  • @daveyvane9431
    @daveyvane9431 Жыл бұрын

    I would change Penny Lane to a disco beat. Then it is totally groundbreaking stuff

  • @rodrigosouza8389
    @rodrigosouza83893 ай бұрын

    If only. In fact sgt Pepper's should be a Double LP.

  • @Sphemus
    @Sphemus2 ай бұрын

    So, you're saying that this would be the album's revamped tracklist: 1. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 2. With A Little Help From My Friends 3. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds 4. Getting Better 5. Fixing A Hole 6. She's Leaving Home 7. Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite! 8. Strawberry Fields Forever 9. Penny Lane 10. Within You Without You 11. When I'm Sixty-Four 12. Lovely Rita 13. Good Morning Good Morning 14. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise) 15. A Day In The Life Hmmm, I might have to try this.

  • @mokamo23

    @mokamo23

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, sort of. To make it fit they would have had to drop a sign from each side. The 2 weakest tracks were "getting better" and "lovely Rita." Ding those 2 and you've for a great album.

  • @Sphemus

    @Sphemus

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mokamo23 I'mma be honest. I actually like all 13 of the original tracks. And I'd actually push for the album to have all 15 instead.

  • @symbiosisai
    @symbiosisai Жыл бұрын

    And if Day Tripper and We Can Work It Out were in Rubber Soul, it would be their best album imo

  • @pinkieswear6611
    @pinkieswear6611 Жыл бұрын

    Remove When I'm 64 and Rita and while you're at it, re-record the last line in She's Leaving Home, "Fun is the one thing that money can't buy". Really? Fun? You can't buy FUN? Sure you can. How about, "LOVE is the one thing that money can't buy". That's what the song is about, after all. Huge missed opportunity. Surprising, really. Anyway...Keep the same order on side 1 and after Benefit add Strawberry to finish side 1. Start side 2 with Within followed by Penny...followed by Good Morning, Reprise and a Day in the Life. Now THAT's a killer album.

  • @Billinois78
    @Billinois78 Жыл бұрын

    What about Harrison's "Only a Northern Song"? It was also from the Sgt. Pepper sessions.

  • @galenstad-guy

    @galenstad-guy

    3 ай бұрын

    I have a private Spotify playlist that's Sgt. Pepper but with MMT, YS (save for the title track and All You Need is Love), Revolution 9 at the spot where I would like Carnival of Light to be,and I will soon add Across the Universe. Might make it public sooner or later.

  • @bielll_4

    @bielll_4

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@galenstad-guy nice, but what's your nickname in Spotify?

  • @galenstad-guy

    @galenstad-guy

    3 ай бұрын

    @@bielll_4 I have two accounts: one is Maj Spotify, one is like a very long name, smth like Maj makes playlists of the Beatles' EPs and stuffs. The first one is where I have the playlist, I'm making it public right now if you wanna

  • @chino-zt6su
    @chino-zt6su Жыл бұрын

    I agree that they were wrong not to include the two songs, it would have been an even more impressive album, it would not have words to express its greatness. Now, I feel that if the two songs were included, the best thing would have been to remove Lovely Ryta and When I'm Sixty-Four, a least one of the two, so that the album would not lose connection and not look too long, they are also the lowest part of the album, after the They would have put better in the Magical Mystery Tour, not if they had, also Maccartney ego and his forced excess of protagonist might not have allowed it, but they are superfluous and it would have clearly been ideal.

  • @jamescpotter
    @jamescpotter Жыл бұрын

    Side 2 of Sgt Peppers could have equally matched side 1 with Strawberry Fields, Penny Lane, and It's All Too Much in place of Rita, 64, and Good Morning. Of course to the purists these words are sacrilegious.

  • @jiminycrint
    @jiminycrint Жыл бұрын

    In my playlists on my iPhone I put the singles that were left off Rubber Soul & Sgt Pepper in place of tracks I don’t like. In the case of Pepper, I just removed When I’m 64 & Lovely Rita (you could take out Good Morning but I wanted more Lennon). 64 & Rita would have been great on Magical Mystery Tour. I’m old enough to remember the vinyl and side 1 is just perfect so I would touch that running order. The only thing about SF is it’s a little quieter than Pepper mixes so would have had to be cut to fit in level wise. George Martin said leaving SF & PL off Pepper was the biggest mistake he ever made. Including those two tracks would have nade Pepper hands down, without question the greatest pop album ever made.

  • @kato64
    @kato64 Жыл бұрын

    I sure wish they had. It would have made the album that much better.

  • @grahamwing7278
    @grahamwing7278 Жыл бұрын

    Should have included revolution no 9 I’ll get me coat 🤭

  • @DeSlagen8
    @DeSlagen83 ай бұрын

    So good that it fades into side 2!?

  • @joeharris3878
    @joeharris3878 Жыл бұрын

    If Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane wasn't released as a single I wouldn't have heard either for perhaps two decades. I bought every Beatles 45 as a kid, but didn't have the money for albums.

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