Identity politics ‘an ugly way to think about the world’

Author Lionel Shriver says identity politics is “an ugly way to think about the world and to behave toward other people”.
Speaking to Sky News, Ms Shriver said identity politics is a “very rigid social structure” that keeps people in boxes, pitting them against each other.
“It’s a movement that is bent on imposing a whole language and a way of thinking on everyone else.”
The writer also noted people are “constantly coming up with rules” and taboos against issues such as cultural appropriation but don’t have authority to do so.
Image: News Corp Australia

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  • @anngent4775
    @anngent47754 жыл бұрын

    She's great. And not once did I hear her play the victim card.

  • @kubel83

    @kubel83

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ann Gent True indeed. Only the left will throw the race, gender or victim card. That is the only comeback or argument they have.

  • @takeoffyourblinkers
    @takeoffyourblinkers4 жыл бұрын

    Good on ya girl. We need more to speak out about this authoritarian crap.

  • @birgittabirgersdatter8082
    @birgittabirgersdatter80824 жыл бұрын

    People who buy books don't care about who wrote it, people who care about the race and sexual orientation of the author, don't buy books.

  • @AdeleCeleste

    @AdeleCeleste

    4 жыл бұрын

    I guess these book companies are going to learn that the hard way. When no one wants to buy their poor-quality, but politically correct books, they will call the readers bigots and racists, and get the government to pass a book tax to force everyone to pay for the politically correct books to continue to be written. The Left is out of control on a crash course with destruction.

  • @lelandgaunt6215

    @lelandgaunt6215

    4 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately I know a few people who do buy books specifically because of the demographic of the author, and then make a great show of how righteous they are because of it. Whether the book is any good or even enjoyable to read seems to be of hardly any relevance to some people, so long as they can flounce around loudly asking people who their favourite gay/Hispanic/disabled/insert identity category here author is. When it comes to most of the books I enjoy I haven't a clue about the author's sexuality, state of health, skin colour or any of that - I go for the book because the plot sound interesting, I'm not particularly interested in the life story of the writer.

  • @honourhume5906

    @honourhume5906

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen to that!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @urbanachiever54

    @urbanachiever54

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow this is just so patently false.

  • @jenv9782
    @jenv97824 жыл бұрын

    Lionel Shriver is brilliant! Shame on Penguin Random House. Being a bookworm from a very young age, I fear for what kind of books will be out there in the future, and if they will be worth reading anymore.

  • @Tyronepeader

    @Tyronepeader

    2 жыл бұрын

    Might end up like Sky News!

  • @birgittabirgersdatter8082
    @birgittabirgersdatter80824 жыл бұрын

    So the publishers will be looking for absolutely everything except the ability to write good books. That sounds to me like a successful business plan, although not one I personally would have adopted.

  • @Shushkin

    @Shushkin

    3 жыл бұрын

    You and I should start our own company. When all others flop, we will rise! We'll be rich enough to own a boat on a yacht on a ship!

  • @fourtoes412
    @fourtoes4124 жыл бұрын

    Correct, Yasmin and her ilk have zero authority over us!

  • @birgittabirgersdatter8082

    @birgittabirgersdatter8082

    4 жыл бұрын

    Four Toes but they very think they deserve authority over us.

  • @fourtoes412

    @fourtoes412

    4 жыл бұрын

    @resigned liberal Correct self censorship!

  • @infinitysearcher8858
    @infinitysearcher88584 жыл бұрын

    Yes, keeping us all in little boxes - the ones they define, and no others.

  • @samuelross9884
    @samuelross98844 жыл бұрын

    Wow, this lady is brilliant! It's so nice to hear such rugged common sense.

  • @Knowbody42
    @Knowbody424 жыл бұрын

    Racism, sexism, *and* identity politics are all forms of collectivism. The solution is individualism.

  • @myferilli
    @myferilli4 жыл бұрын

    To teach Penguin-Random House a lesson let’s just keep buying and reading good books. They’ll go broke in no time.

  • @davidhurwitz6495
    @davidhurwitz64954 жыл бұрын

    Its always racist people who are the first to scream racism. She's right, ignore them. I say turn it around and point out their racism. And also, the Nazis burned books that didn't aggree with them, like those people conplaining about her.

  • @dougodyssey50

    @dougodyssey50

    4 жыл бұрын

    Racists are obsessed with race.

  • @sooky2253
    @sooky22534 жыл бұрын

    Lovely, intelligent lady!! Excellent interview as usual. What would we do without these valiant souls!?

  • @jimmylemessurier332
    @jimmylemessurier3324 жыл бұрын

    This lady is a heroine.

  • @knighttoking7926
    @knighttoking79264 жыл бұрын

    It starts early, like in elementary school, and it keeps building.

  • @paulmccarten6007
    @paulmccarten60074 жыл бұрын

    Make Orwell fiction again.😆

  • @Zgembo121
    @Zgembo1214 жыл бұрын

    Shes really brave to speak up. This topic can cost you dearly $$$

  • @johnw7602
    @johnw76024 жыл бұрын

    "I'm not against diversity, I'm against quotas." Brilliant! I absolutely LOVE that statement! I'm also curious, What is the "rule" when a writer/filmmaker, etc, tells a story from the point of view of a dog, or any other animal for that matter? Do we now have to have animals tell these stories? Where exactly is the line, where exactly does it end and who exactly is qualified to make that decision for everyone else?

  • @garymcaleer6112
    @garymcaleer61124 жыл бұрын

    To me, each of these would-be tyrants perfectly matches the famous quote from "Terminator," describing its character: "It can't be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear."

  • @Loki-ci1yd
    @Loki-ci1yd4 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad you came back , pizzing off Leftists is what life’s all about 😁

  • @garymcaleer6112
    @garymcaleer61124 жыл бұрын

    Excellent post, SNA. I'm always reminded of Abigail Adam's letter to husband John in 1776 when she summed up her thesis: "you know that every man would be a tyrant if he could." And we see how this lust includes women as well.

  • @ZuShin
    @ZuShin4 жыл бұрын

    Woody Allen, rumoured to have done??!! He married his step daughter for Gods sack. There is something seriously wrong with that guy. She sure threw out a bad example.

  • @stenkarasin2091
    @stenkarasin20914 жыл бұрын

    Those who have talent write, those who don't criticize. It's how they vent their envy.

  • @AG-tj8ew
    @AG-tj8ew4 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree - thank you for standing up for sanity in this increasingly unhinged world.

  • @MariaSpooon
    @MariaSpooon4 жыл бұрын

    Identity politics started with stereotypes in university.

  • @helenamoniqueclarke8135
    @helenamoniqueclarke81354 жыл бұрын

    The PC movement is bringing in the most potent and effortless form of repression and Fascism ever. Well done...

  • @maccart67
    @maccart674 жыл бұрын

    Well done Lionel Shriver, you're a bloody legend and I love your work. I agree and I'm far from white. Creative freedom's important.

  • @KristyandMarcus
    @KristyandMarcus4 жыл бұрын

    As an Australian, I'm embarrassed the a great mind, like Lionel Shriver, had to suffer this sort of nonsense & at the same time grateful she has come ack & in doing so, demonstrated to the militant left just how better people, better minds, conduct themselves as truly members of society. All of us could stand to learn from her behaviour in this instance. Thanks Andrew Bolt for this interview & thank you Lionel Shriver for rising above this nonsense, coming back to Australia & having the courage to speak out against it.

  • @lks6248
    @lks62484 жыл бұрын

    Good for her. These rule setters have NO authority. Two fingers up to them and on our merry way we go!

  • @kashnigahbaruda
    @kashnigahbaruda4 жыл бұрын

    After loosing all hope in females, this specimen shows up!

  • @birgittabirgersdatter8082

    @birgittabirgersdatter8082

    4 жыл бұрын

    kashnigahbaruda we exist, we are often shouted down but the lunatics, but we still keep standing our ground.

  • @DemonHunter-pc8uv

    @DemonHunter-pc8uv

    4 жыл бұрын

    After losing all hope in men, I continue losing hope with this comment I’m just kidding, I’m losing hope in humanity all together

  • @ytw6832
    @ytw68324 жыл бұрын

    Congrats Andrew. One of your KZread clip was selected by American Conservative University podcast. Keep up the good work.

  • @g.s.8409
    @g.s.84094 жыл бұрын

    4:00 "People are constantly coming up with rules we have to obey but these people have no authority and we don't have to obey those rules." Lionel Shriver --- That was a really cool sentence and the bit that follows is awesome too. On top of that she was so logical. So glad that people like this still exist in the English speaking world. It gives me hope about the future of liberty.

  • @thenrepeat9124
    @thenrepeat91244 жыл бұрын

    Shriver's trying to get writers to stop cowing to SJWs. I applaud her!

  • @conseated3616
    @conseated36164 жыл бұрын

    She hit the nail on the head,they have no authority.

  • @missinterpreted4923
    @missinterpreted49234 жыл бұрын

    Wow - this woman is brilliant!

  • @jdg2921
    @jdg29214 жыл бұрын

    Well said

  • @MuttsWithGuts
    @MuttsWithGuts4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Lionel, your always welcome, we'll even buy you a beer!

  • @nastythomashobbs
    @nastythomashobbs4 жыл бұрын

    Woman asks a male fiction writer."How do you write women so well"...Writer.."I think of a man then I take away reason and accountability" Second only to the Fight Club line..." We are a generation of men raised by women"

  • @slimmorden5771
    @slimmorden57714 жыл бұрын

    In Canada they tried having stores stock only books with female authors the books stayed on the shelves. I and millions of others found the second-hand book stores after reading two of these books. The authors were completely clueless about things men are quite familiar with.

  • @jimivey6462
    @jimivey64624 жыл бұрын

    The identity politics attacks on writers takes book burning to a whole new level. They would not even allow thoughtful, insightful books to be written.

  • @brennerfab770
    @brennerfab7704 жыл бұрын

    People will still have to by and read what they put out. What goes around will come around eventually.

  • @howardsmith9342
    @howardsmith93424 жыл бұрын

    Yasmin is a Muslim woman of color. What gives her the right to tell anyone who isn't also a Muslim woman of color what to do? (See how that works both ways?)

  • @jayw2586
    @jayw25864 жыл бұрын

    You cannot make a lesser individual greater than their aptitude allows.......

  • @dawnduskwinter
    @dawnduskwinter4 жыл бұрын

    So you can write about another person with sympathy......NO NO NO.

  • @jl9205
    @jl92054 жыл бұрын

    Great interview.

  • @robcampbell6700
    @robcampbell67004 жыл бұрын

    I've been part of the old working class left for years, but I have little in common with the current leftist globalists, climate alarmists, and identitarians (if there is such a a word). I could see this latter beginning when in I was in University more than 20 years ago. Many feminists in University believed that language is deterministic but I would argue that the context in which a word is used influences meaning and can even subvert meaning (e.g. sarcasm). I was told, for example, that the use of the term 'girl' is demeaning to all women of whatever age and in whatever culture (even when consenting women call each other girls). It was at this point that I became vehemently opposed to dogma of all kinds - including feminism and Marxism. Since then the situation has become much, much worse and identity politics highlights the growing gap between reality and our representation of it through language. Criticism of literary empathy (putting oneself in another's shoes) is a criticism of a very important human attribute. In principle, this is a criticism of all attempts to write fiction as pointless and impossible - unless I write only about myself. Identity politics is, perhaps, the ultimate expression of liberal individualism and as Lionel Shriver points out, places us in separate boxes where meaningful communication (and mutual empathy) become problematic. This is mainly a middle class preoccupation: working class people (in general) will be baffled by it. Greeting from Scotland.

  • @virvisquevir3320

    @virvisquevir3320

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rob Campbell - Cheers, mate! Stay strong. Stay sane.

  • @soavesoave9048
    @soavesoave90484 жыл бұрын

    If the Australian news are mirror image of the Australian nation, I would like to become Astralain myself, if it's possible of course.

  • @richardsmith9038
    @richardsmith90384 жыл бұрын

    She's so right about cancel culture. This isn't a million miles away from what happened under Stalin, where any artist who didn't follow the official line was not allowed to work. It's also being forced by a tiny fraction of the population who are active on social media but who are completely unrepresentative of the general population. Why politicians and the media seem to think these idiots are worthy of listening to and obeying is one of the mysteries of our age. Almost every day it seems that there is a story that someone does or says something that 'causes outrage on social media'. But when you actually look into it it's obvious that there is a tiny percentage of outrage and a much larger percentage of, 'you cannot be serious!' and people making fun of the perpetually offended moblet.

  • @bearlemley
    @bearlemley3 жыл бұрын

    Where is the double thumbs up button? Who said! “Those who are easily offended are easily led”?

  • @carlo1195
    @carlo11954 жыл бұрын

    The question is why the majority was silent for a long time ?

  • @Kurtlane
    @Kurtlane4 жыл бұрын

    I am anti-"diversity." Can anyone name one good thing this "diversity" has done?

  • @hariseldon3786
    @hariseldon37864 жыл бұрын

    Well there goes science fiction - unless, I suppose, written from the point of view of an illegal alien lol...

  • @davids3915
    @davids39154 жыл бұрын

    How doe's disney make movies from the point of animals like lion king? they have no animals that can write or talk or direct.

  • @quantumeraser345
    @quantumeraser3454 жыл бұрын

    Jack London narrated "The Iron Heel" in the voice of a young woman living in the distant past, and it was thoroughly delightful. The body of London's work would not be complete without the exposition of this unique facet of his incomparable talent. Identity politics is a Procrustean bed that resorts to considerable violence in the interest of imposing equality where it need not exist. Lionel Shriver is brilliant. I must read some of her books!

  • @DrenaiSaga
    @DrenaiSaga4 жыл бұрын

    Basically, identity politics is saying, I don't care how great or good you are, you will be judged by what group you are allocated.

  • @booth2710
    @booth27104 жыл бұрын

    I like his lady. Talks intelligent but plain old fashioned common sense

  • @melmo5218
    @melmo52184 жыл бұрын

    If you try to resolve cultural appropriation like the value of Pi, which has no end, do I end up being able to write only about myself?

  • @samsonian
    @samsonian3 жыл бұрын

    Identity politics would have us stringing up Kafka for wronging insects by “assuming he knows what it’s like to have an exoskeleton.” Everywhere morons would be burning every copy of “Metamorphosis” as harmful to bug rights.

  • @bigm383
    @bigm3834 жыл бұрын

    I have written a little bit of unpublished fiction. I've written from the perspective of every character, male, female, young and old. I think it forced me to think about life from different people's perspectives. I think that's called empathy. I would love to go to a writer's festival, but they're all peppered with nut cases like Clementine Ford and Yasmin Horrible Mcgoo.

  • @patriciocordova449
    @patriciocordova4494 жыл бұрын

    I totally adore this lady.

  • @mostamazingmatt
    @mostamazingmatt4 жыл бұрын

    The left: Yes sir you can decide to be a woman any time you like! Also the left: No sir you cannot possibly know what its like to be a woman!

  • @kgfes
    @kgfes4 жыл бұрын

    George RR Martin has written books from the perspective a fat old king, young dragon princess, undead beings, young warriors etc . It's not appropriation. It's called TALENT. We used to celebrate that ability

  • @modvs1
    @modvs14 жыл бұрын

    So by their argument there should be no such thing as fiction? If I'm a bloke who wants to write about a character from a bloke's perspective, technically I can't because, I don't really know what it's like to be a non existent bloke? Wouldn't want to offend non existent bloke's too, would we (?).

  • @parabot2
    @parabot24 жыл бұрын

    As a European you have a group Identity and get this , we as European's have group interests and should have loyalty towards our group . I can assure you Muslims , Indians , Chinese etc have an in group preference and will swamp our culture , areas , countries etc to insert their culture and interests .When they have the numbers they elect their politicians using our system , who then implement policies that work for their group thus displacing other groups .

  • @mrjekyllandhyde9941
    @mrjekyllandhyde99414 жыл бұрын

    Well I guess we better take Harry Potter off the shelves then

  • @capitanvonchickenpants8492
    @capitanvonchickenpants84923 жыл бұрын

    One thing I can do is to go to my man shed put on planet rock and tinker with my historic motorcycles, and weld and turn and mill, and forget the lunacy that is this world

  • @sonofode902
    @sonofode9024 жыл бұрын

    Its a false equality. To say its fair where there is no winner and there is no looser. To say that it is good if bad is equal to good, then there is no good and bad. False equality is not about fairness. It is "mix to confuse", babel... Gin,

  • @firestone7198
    @firestone71984 жыл бұрын

    I love this

  • @johnmccormick8159
    @johnmccormick81594 жыл бұрын

    It's easy to stereotype women working in the humanities as fuzzy-brained, but here is one who thinks and communicates more clearly than a lot of men.

  • @saynofivegchristchurch6859
    @saynofivegchristchurch68594 жыл бұрын

    Amazing some free speech is still allowed in OZ.

  • @slimmorden5771
    @slimmorden57714 жыл бұрын

    Identity and religion cannot be separated, Someone who religiously adheres to an identity will never even hear what is said by others but accept every word from one of their own religion.

  • @chimesmedia2331
    @chimesmedia23314 жыл бұрын

    She's a great author and, listening to her, she is a great character too.

  • @KillerBill1953
    @KillerBill19534 жыл бұрын

    Obviously Random House/ Penguin have not taken any notice of Hollywood's recent disastrous foray into identity politics over good films: Captain Marvel; the female Ghostbusters; female Ocean's ##; lesbian Batman series; X Whamyn Dark Pheonix; the upcoming Terminator film featuring the Androgyne 2000; and many more expensive flops. SJWs don't watch films. A few years ago I chose the self-publishing route. I don't make much money, but I don't have someone censoring my views (through characters) either. I also won't have the pleasure of seeing the majority of the print run in "The Works" either.

  • @fredorman2429
    @fredorman24293 жыл бұрын

    My dad was from England and I frequently use Anglo-Saxon terminology. I have also observed individuals, obviously not of British origin, co-opting my ethnic heritage, rather colorfully too. I should deeply resent this mis-appropriation but I don’t, because it enriches the international lexicon.

  • @pammym1825
    @pammym18254 жыл бұрын

    This is a modern take on the historical book burning...brutal censorship!

  • @Drabbo
    @Drabbo4 жыл бұрын

    How is sky news over here so backwards? Yet just across the pond you’ve got Australia with the way NEWS should be done! How?!?

  • @Nadia..J
    @Nadia..J4 жыл бұрын

    I know exactly when this nonsense began. Suddenly 'culture' was the important word. Any country that had a cruel custom was excused because it was their "culture". I knew when I commented about how ridiculously absurd & cruel a certain custom in a country was & I was shouted down because it was their culture - that this was a dangerous road to somewhere. Now I know where.

  • @secondchance6603
    @secondchance66032 жыл бұрын

    It's simple, if you think the book will offend you don't read it.

  • @silvernova354
    @silvernova3544 жыл бұрын

    A person is to be judged by their character and their actions. No matter who they are. Anything else, especially identity politics, is disgusting, old fashioned bigotry. Plain and simple.

  • @coltmagnus6572
    @coltmagnus65724 жыл бұрын

    This is a good story, stay away from all pro left stories. Thanks Sky.

  • @dexchaos9222
    @dexchaos92224 жыл бұрын

    You know what also can be quite ugly at times? Being a German in Germany.

  • @loreenec8045
    @loreenec80454 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I do creative writing for fun, won't let anyone tell me what I can and can't write, fiction is fiction.

  • @jagman84
    @jagman844 жыл бұрын

    It is ethnic demarcation. It's akin to the old trade union stance of no plurality of skills in the workplace. It's intent was to increase employment and thus Union membership, but often caused company insolvency and less jobs. Identity politics will undoubtedly kill itself off in a similar way.

  • @donnachristian9871
    @donnachristian98714 жыл бұрын

    How can JK Rowling write about a boy wizard. The hypocrisy is getting absurd

  • @herbertkroll1266
    @herbertkroll12664 жыл бұрын

    Keeping people in their little boxes... That's exactly what YT seems to do, when I see the number of views this video has.

  • @chrislecky710
    @chrislecky7104 жыл бұрын

    Yep, a lot of the ways we look at the world are ugly.

  • @johnstockill9353
    @johnstockill93534 жыл бұрын

    Breath of fresh air in a world gone mad, as you ossies might say "good on yer"

  • @simpaticaism
    @simpaticaism3 жыл бұрын

    Creative writing does not come with a ID bar code , anyone can do it ......... anyone and everyone should try to do it .....

  • @vedawattieram15
    @vedawattieram154 жыл бұрын

    No educational background ... as a policy for its employees?

  • @strangetranceoffaith
    @strangetranceoffaith3 жыл бұрын

    My god this woman is making sense and she is on tv WTF is going on did no one read the memo about crushing all human kindness and reasonableness with dogmatic Identity politics? It is also true that even if he had done then it would say nothing about his art

  • @roberthurleyjr4762
    @roberthurleyjr47624 жыл бұрын

    We LOVE BOLT in America!!!

  • @1969cmp

    @1969cmp

    4 жыл бұрын

    While I don't always agree with Andrew, he at least asks the hard questions and gets people think.

  • @nelsonx5326
    @nelsonx53264 жыл бұрын

    'Black Like Me', an amazing book that opened my young eyes to a harsh hunk of reality. These identity politics practitioners, can the box someone thinks in get any smaller? EDIT: I wrote the comment above one minute into the video. At around 2:40 she says what I realized on my own, identity politics is a mental box. It's their dirty little cage, not mine. I've known about identity politics for a few years, but that it was box thinking only occurred to me when I saw that identity politics people don't want writers to imagine being in someone else's shoes. The white people who marched with Dr. King; would identity politics allow that? EDIT: Watching more I had another thought; The left and globalists look like their imposing a new kind of Sharia law. It's not Sharia law of course, but they're writing new blasphemy laws of a sort. Who wants this and why? I see no good in it.

  • @navyeodguy1605

    @navyeodguy1605

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good on you! I recommend the autobiography of Booker T. Washington. Not only was he a great man, he foresaw a lot of what is going on today.

  • @polddaal7432
    @polddaal74323 жыл бұрын

    I watched got the munchies went into a fantasy. A little bit like what are they yappin about.Meaningless.

  • @stephenlouwbiokineticist4127
    @stephenlouwbiokineticist41274 жыл бұрын

    You madam is a class act!

  • @tomjeffersonwasright2288
    @tomjeffersonwasright22884 жыл бұрын

    Hiring writers by race is insane. Quality of writing is the only rational priority. And if publishers want to match demographic communities, matching their READERS would make the most sense. Publishing toward communities who don't read is foolishness of the most patent sort, somewhat like marketing hamburgers to vegans.. Quotas always begin with adding minorities to reflect the community, but end up overloading with minorities and cutting back Whites to far below community demographics.

  • @claudexy
    @claudexy4 жыл бұрын

    strong woman and absolutely right.

  • @thequeenlibertyliberty9084
    @thequeenlibertyliberty90844 жыл бұрын

    The attack on imagination has 2 points, it also brings into focus transgender, gender fluidity. If writers aren't allowed to imagine, then ook at the transgender, gender fluid mindset, beliefs - ideology. The two must be in violation - Appropriation of an actual, real man's or woman's experience. Look, a transgender cannot menstruate, get pregnant, experience menopause, or any other biological woman's issues. That goes for a Man Too, we cannot truly say someone is a man when they do not go through Men issues too.

  • @atillasevis9126
    @atillasevis91264 жыл бұрын

    Might as well go after jack & jill because jill followed jack , she wasn't allowed to go first. Lol. #WTFs goin on.??

  • @Chris-xg3bl
    @Chris-xg3bl4 жыл бұрын

    Commercial is the biggest factor for any business...get woke go broke will fix it.

  • @bradleynewall7541
    @bradleynewall75414 жыл бұрын

    so you have to be a serial killer to write about a serial killer?

  • @tonybullen229
    @tonybullen2294 жыл бұрын

    Intelligent, articulate whats not to like...