The government wanted ppl to go green, but charge a higher road tax for the missing fuel tax that EVs don’t pay. Well done government for such a retrograde move!!

@achangyw

Ай бұрын

Yes, tax should be cheaper in view that EVs reduces noise and air pollution away from the city!

@jason41a

2 сағат бұрын

higher road tax for heavier cars (EVs) wearing down the road more?

I think policies should be changed in order for govt to encourage evs, not sufficient efforts have been done to address this

@achangyw

Ай бұрын

I concur.

Good comparison, but do another video factoring in servicing/maintenance cost too as am guessing this may skew towards EV being cheaper overall.

@bc3255

Жыл бұрын

Yes, include also battery replacement factors as well as insurance, accident repairs, or rather write offs especially for models like Tesla where their Gigaprinting of their chasis don’t really allow for replacement of battery cost effectively in an accident…

Batteries will degrade over time. If you want to renew another 10 years, the battery pack replacement may cost a fortune.

@Brian-om2hh

9 ай бұрын

Why replace the battery pack, when a battery pack refurbishment costs just a fraction of replacing it?

@achangyw

Ай бұрын

Correct. Need to compare maintenance cost!

Where is the servicing/maintenance? EV wins hands down

Unless the EV's are solar charged, it's not enviromental friendly. The mining & process of the batteries are also destroying the environment. Ignorant consumers think it's purely green. So sad...

@BennnWJK

Жыл бұрын

Our electricity is still mostly from natural gas… So much for being green.

@Brian-om2hh

9 ай бұрын

@@BennnWJK And where do oil refineries and ICE car factories get their electricity from?

@marvinfollero846

9 ай бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh the point is the agenda pushing EV as green but in reality they're just as bad as an ICE vehicle

@TuckshopMedia

6 ай бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh Like where charging stations and EV car factories also get their electricity from, Power stations.

hope to see round 2 of such a comparison :) good video

Great analysis and love the way the test are conducted in a consistent real world environment manner. Would love to see a follow-up/part 2 video about the cost of maintenance and frequency of going to the workshop. Then calculate that into the total cost of owning it for 10 years, which variant would ultimately cost cheaper

Not a bad way to do comparison. EV will be more cost effective if you clock more mileage as compare to ICE. Hence for those driver clocking less than the average should not get an EV. Maintenance cost for EV looks lower upfront provided there is not issue on your battery. There is also a point of concern on the resales value of an EV say after 5 yrs as this impact the depreciation and we assume COE is constant. As a driver I will not buy a 2nd hand EV unless there is a certified report on the status of the EV battery as everyone know the life of the battery depends on how the owner maintence his charging behaviour. Just like an ICE although we Don have a report on the engine but we can hear the sound and feel the engine when we test drive. Another issue is that the ix3 unladen weight is more than 2000kg so it means it's illegal to park at HDB carparks or even malls if they have a weight limit of 2000kg. But this weight issue was often kept in the dark by most gov and the dealer. So for all those cisco officer out there please issue summon to those EV SUV which most of them their unladen weight exceeded 2000kg which is a safety hazard on the structure of our HDB carparks. Quote from (written answer by ministry of national development on parking of heavy vehicles) "MSCP are not designed to withstand vehicular weight beyond this limit" hence jeep gladiator is not allow to purchase a season parking in MSCP so can the ix3 get the season parking in MSCP. Most of the Gov keep tell their citizens that is more green but have they consider the carbon footprint of making and desposal, the higher replacement rate of the tyres, the high frequency of road repairs due to the weight of the EV? Will also like to see a video how long can an EV last in a 4 to 5 hrs traffic jam especially if u are caught in custom and its not possible that your EV is full charge if you drive back from KL or Malacca. So it's not practical to get an EV if you are using your car for a road trip to Malaysia even provided the charging infrastructure is available as during peak season how could everyone charge at JB b4 clear the custom? Unless clearing of the land Checkpoint can limited to 1 hrs then it will be practical for EV to travel north in the future even when charging point is not a concern. For non driver concern will I pay a much higher electric bill when ICE face out and EV is 80 to 90% on the road as they tap on our current electricity power grid will there be different charges rate for household, commcial and EV. As in the past the petrol price Don really affect us non driver. Hope to hear from you guys on the comments.

Time savings matter as well. With ICE, I can fuel up in 5 minutes. With EVs, I need to drive 10 minutes just to get to a charger… And then wait another hour just to get a day’s worth of mileage

@carrotzz1

Жыл бұрын

full charge using normal dc charger requires hours of charging.

@faradaycool4058

Жыл бұрын

@@carrotzz1 dc is fast. ac is slow

@MakeAMark1755

Жыл бұрын

Or.... you can charge at home

@achangyw

Ай бұрын

Can charge at home while you sleep or charge at a nearby cheaper place? Hmm can be quite a problem in Singapore!

How much do you pay for the the EV per kWh that time thanks

In Singapore, hybrid and EV are not truly encouraged. The rebates are gimmicks when it's taxed so heavily. Petrol is still huge business in Singapore. The only reason for getting hybrid and EV is to be eco-friendly, if you believe they are really eco-friendly...

@achangyw

Ай бұрын

Correct. Wait till EVs prices drops below ICE cars and batteries become way cheaper and last longer than present day models.

Great video

I sort of did my own napkin math and came to a similar high level conclusion. Nice to see a more detailed experiment done. Was on the fence about trading in my Q5 for an e-tron, but I'll stick with the ICE for now.

Appreciate the quietness the whole trip ey

your price is based on DC or AC? they do not come with the same price isnt it?

Will a comparison between ICE and PHEV be more applicable given the current tax structure for EVs? May I suggest a BMW 330i vs 330e?

Should also look into hybrid to compare.

I think once you take into account the higher upfront price for EVs, the inconvenience of having to wait for hours to charge, plus not to forget how many people in Singapore actually drive their cars for the full 10 years, then the financial case for EVs may not make sense. Not to forget changing EVs once every 3-5 years is not very green and you keep paying higher upfront costs.

Actually the comparison should be with an ICE X3 xDrive30i M Sport, which has equipment levels (e.g HUD, not sure about HK 16-speaker Logics 7 system, adaptive suspension and panoramic moonroof which the iX3 has) closer to iX3 except for xDrive. Performance level of X3 xDrive30i is also more comparable to iX3. Also, EV maintenance cost is lower than ICE, e.g. no oil change service, no air filter, etc. Insurance actually depends a lot of the driver and driving history, I know the amount quoted is higher than my experience. Only thing EV is being disadvantaged is the road tax, which LTA said it’s higher because of a flat component (to recover petrol duty lost) by MOF. I would like to suggest the reviewer do a cost comparison of iX3 M Sport vs X3 xDrive30i M Sport.

EVs are never environmentally friendly, from producing the batteries to disposing them. Motor&Batteries live varies too, just like your phone, it degrades over time; imagine on the performance of your iPhone 5/6 series if you are still using it at this moment.

@stonkytong

7 ай бұрын

That’s what ICE makers want us to be doubtful about. Just like food industries putting claims out there that sugar ain’t actually as harmful as people tot

Gov is silly to encourage EV but charges 50% higher in road tax and insurance for EV than ICE for exact same model. A BYD EV of same or less price will beat BMW ICE easily in internal quality and driving experience.

@achangyw

Ай бұрын

Bring this up in election! PAP gone awry?

I recently bought a new car. Several dealers told me that my average mileage (12,000km per year) will never justify an EV. Insurance is the big issue. I've never been in an accident but other drivers keep reversing into me in carparks! Never made a claim and am so easy going don't even claim against other driver. My insurance for an 8 year-old Volvo XC 60 is still $1,800! I've got 50% NCD. How can? Insurer insisted they weren't punishing me for the carpark incidents but I don't believe them. I bought a mass-market car (towards the more expensive end). Insurance only $1,000. Hands up if you don't like insurers and don't trust them.

How about hybrid vs EV?

No comparison of maintenance cost? EV is known to have nearly no maintenance because it has only some 20 parts VS 2000 mechanical moving parts of ICE. Whereas BMW ICE esp X3 is notorious known as problematic car, parking in distributor workshop most of its time costing a bomb each time. Not sure for the EV version.

Overseas EV resale is awful compared to ICE. Our resale prices are artificially maintained by the COE depreciation. Apparently crashed EVs are much more often written off by the insurers too (hence the higher premiums). There's also the small risk of a catastrophic fire from the battery pack- perhaps less from Western manufacturers than Chinese. I'm not sure if this is really the way of the future yet but with COEs so high I won't be changing car any time soon so will watch and see how the cars develop over the next few years.

What about the time consuming of charging ...

@achangyw

Ай бұрын

Charge it when you are taking a nap or sleeping at night at home? BMW owners can afford their own house or a parking with charging facility?

They are worried about cannibalise their own version as it is still in production. So the number will be quite similar. Compare similar spect of car between Tesla or BYD. They will force the car company to switch

Our govt ain’t gonna let evs eat away their profitability. Our standard of livings are largely controlled through prices of housing and cars too. For economy to continue booming, the nation needs as many people working as possible. However one area which the government probably wouldn’t care too much would be the maintainence part. So if you throw in maintenance of ICE vs EV, EV probably edges out

It would definitely useful if you could factor in maintenance costs over a period of say 7 years for both these models ... as around that time the EV battery would need replacing. (Exclude common things like tyres replacement, etc)

One major downside of EV today is the lack of charging points whether HDB, condo or shopping malls. The anxiety of running out of battery juice and with no nearby charging station is a big NO NO to me.. This problem is astronomically worse if one frequent drives up north..

@howcanimiss

Жыл бұрын

You pump petrol at hdb/condo?

@achangyw

Ай бұрын

Infrastructure for EVs but you have the advantage of less noise and air pollution in the city.

Even the quickest mobile charger still takes around 15 mins....

@Brian-om2hh

9 ай бұрын

So you wouldn't stop or take a break after around 200 miles of driving?

It's 2023, and carbon tax comes in 2024. And how much tax will the gov impose on petrol? What if RON95 cost $4/L ($3.20 after discount)? For now, petrol cars still make a lot of sense, but what happens after 2030? I guess EV may still be a little ahead of its time now in 2023..

You have to consider the geographical location where EV requires charging stations distanced appropriately compared to ICE petrol stations. For EV owners, during the winter of extreme freezing conditions, they are better off taking the bus or using the ICE vehicles. For example, Tesla owners complain about door knobs being unable to get activated due to frozen electronic components. To add injury to the matter, charging stations have similar electronic malfunctions where EV owners are stuck with few remaining "charges." Scary for some folks. The video shown here was performed in Singapore, maybe next time try the East Coast in the USA. New York City alone do not have enough charging stations to the EV owner's demand (but that is infrastructure issue not the vehicle itself). Different folks - different strokes!

Are EV honestly greener than ICE?

@achangyw

Ай бұрын

Less air pollution and also less noise. Cars in Singapore lasts less than 15 years and are resold elsewhere. So why worry about greener especially for Singapore?

More unnecessary carbon footprint.