What double standards!! When majesty can feel the pain of his sister then why cant he feel the pain his wives go through each day when he cheats on them

@sauda_0314

10 ай бұрын

They were his concubines. This is not the same thing at all.

@xepybum4e1

10 ай бұрын

Exactly... Disgusting

@izzyvlog2849

10 ай бұрын

@@sauda_0314what do you call a man sleep with other women,isn’t that cheating?

@Princess-yj7ko

10 ай бұрын

@@izzyvlog2849oh it is indeed but that was the way it was for the Sultan. He had to, that was a tradition that started to loose more strength with Suleiman. Him having many women was what was expected and for the sultanas’s husband they were supposed to be 100% loyal to the sultanas and the sultanas were the only women in the empire that had the right to say ‘I divorce’ 3 times to their husband and they were divorced definitely

@andriagivens5815

8 ай бұрын

They weren’t his wives. They weren’t even mistresses. They were slaves. Hence they were taken by force from other countries.

Mahidevran isn't worried about Hatice at all. All she wants is to keep Ibrahim around to defend and protect her. What a nasty!

@leylaaydn7192

6 ай бұрын

Wow what a nasty woman she wants to protect herself and her son just like Hurrem right?😂

@ankina86

5 ай бұрын

Mahidevran did less for Hatice than Hurrem, but Hurrem still became Hatice's scapegoat... Only because it was easier to blame Ibrahim's cheating on the person that discovered his cheating than on him. Hatice immediately forgot that Hurrem saved her baby's life. She forgot that Mahidevran wanted Suleiman to die so she could kill her niece and nephews to put Mustafa on the throne...

@GabyHernandez-rv3vo

5 ай бұрын

😮😮😮😂 that's hurrem and other concubine they don't care it's power struggle that's all

@Dreamfyre2

3 ай бұрын

Then her bots pint her as an angel victim when all she did was use people 💀

@Muslimmukhtii

18 күн бұрын

Fr

Hatice: if Ibrahim cheats on me I’ll divorce him. Ibrahim: Cheats on her even while she was pregnant and delivering twins. Got the other woman pregnant and even bought her a house. Also Hatice: Doesn’t divorce Ibrahim.

@Joy_1223

6 ай бұрын

Hatice changed her mind to spite Hurrem because she knew divorcing Ibrahim will make him lose his influence, thus paving the way for Hurrem to be unchallenged in the power struggle. Plus, in the end, it also showed how deeply she loved Ibrahim despite his faults

@lydiamunro1

5 ай бұрын

I wont too.I make that women life miserable more than anyone.Not all men and women can be faithful we have to accept this in life but if i can threat him with that all my life wont i😂

@bruhno1545

4 ай бұрын

@@lydiamunro1 but people can have self respect to not put up with betrayal.She was also a royal

@AS-yz2iz

3 ай бұрын

​@@Joy_1223Hatice didn't love Ibrahim. She was obsessed with him.

@Joy_1223

3 ай бұрын

@AS-yz2iz in this series, yes. Their love story started as sweet and innocent but ambition, constant insults (by Hatice to Ibrahim) and betrayal ruined it for both of them.

Seriously, Mahidevran defended Ibrahim and don't care about Hatice's reputation as sultana of the blood just because she fear of Hurrem. Clearly she doesn't care about state or dynasty as whole, just herself and her son.

@mlpstarlight1864

Жыл бұрын

Because the dynasty also didn't care about Mahidevran too. She must care about herself and for her son. That was the harem life. Hurrem also cared only for herself and sons.

@dionysiossmaragdis2844

Жыл бұрын

It is logical, Ibrahim is the mentor of Mustafa and Mustafa is her son and successor of the throne, my friend. And yes, who wasn't fear Hurrem, as she was Devil itself? She wanted to get rid of Mustafa, so she also wanted to get rid of Ibrahim. So why Mahidevran should care about Hatice? Hatice wasn't the successor of the throne, Mustafa was and Ibrahim was his trainer. So why she should care about her? Did anyone cared about Mahidevran all these years? No. So why she couldn't be at least one time of her life indiferent to someone? After all, this happened to her already. Didn't she want to do this?

@angelayla8997

Жыл бұрын

She makes it obvious that her goal is her son on the throne and practically gets excited at the thought of Suleiman passing away. She of course defends Ibrahim since he was taking care of her and Mustafa and helping his rise to the throne, along with messing with Hurrem. Hatice wasn't the one spending so much time with and molding Mustafa. Mahidevran thinks of herself first.

@dannie4528

Жыл бұрын

Ibrahim was her biggest ally she couldn't have him lose power while hurrem gained it

@MedicAngel

11 ай бұрын

In regards to Mahidevern Because she cared about no one but her self

Hatice is so fragile that she never realised both Hurrem and Suleyman loved her so much. Just because she loves him and wants to protect Ibrahim from Suleyman's wrath, she turned her eyes blind for all her pain caused by him. She forgot about his greed, cheating behaviour, and power hunger.. The most important to her, she can take Hurrem's down because Hurrem is Ibrahim's enemy!

@izas5768

Ай бұрын

XD Yes hurrem love her so much that she beat her up do much. Nice love

@izas5768

Ай бұрын

So*

@hidden_valley

15 күн бұрын

Who caused her to that point? She beat her out of conscience because they did sent black magic to ruin her.. What does she not had? Mahi poisoning, beating, killing his son.. Fatma hatun burn her face.. Valide, Ibrahim attempt to kill her.. ibrahim made her killing Leo.. they arranged multiple women to challenge her.. Yes, she is a monster but they're playing a huge roles to turn her into it!! And she learn how to survive in the palace, it's just that their rules get back to them.. I'm gonna do the same if they keep messing with my life. You might be happy to let people treat you like a trash from the first place.

I know he catches some serious flack for it, but, honestly, I don't blame Suleiman encouraging Hatice to take the time while Ibrahim is away to think things through. It's a way to make sure that, whatever choice she makes, is made not in the heat of the moment, which, for a character as emotionally driven as herself, happens often with her. Still, even though the show couldn't bend history enough for Ibrahim to be divorced, I wish this arc had gone in a direction that wasn't "Hatice + Ibrahim = 4ever OTP uwu!"

@user-ob4sq6fi3s

Жыл бұрын

There's nothing to be thought through. Ibrahim cheated on Hatice and got a child with his mistress. For Suleiman, this is not only an insult to his beloved sister's honour, but also his own. A major disrespect to the dynasty and the sultan, who treated Ibrahim as a brother and he repays him with ungratefulness. He should have granted that divorce as soon as Hatice was done explaining

@Mss.pumpkin

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ob4sq6fi3s Ibrahim shall be beheaded but cuz suleiman assume ibrahim as bro and ibrahim saved suleiman when he was young. But the end suleiman executed ibrahim cuz he is crossing the limit.

@user-ob4sq6fi3s

Жыл бұрын

@@Mss.pumpkin Ibrahim crossed the limit way before Suleiman had decided that he was done with him. If I were in Suleiman's position, I'd have written Ibrahim a letter saying: "I found out what you've done. You are no longer my sister's husband, nor the grand vizier. The only reason I am not dragging your name through the mudd is because of our past friendship and your remarkable service. You have a last chance to go down with honour: you won't return alive from this campaign. Cause if you do... I'll feed you to the dogs".

@Mss.pumpkin

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ob4sq6fi3s Should be like this I agreed. But when suleiman order to execute ibrahim, hatice hated him and hurrem. Actually hatice is one of stupid woman too.

@user-ob4sq6fi3s

Жыл бұрын

@@Mss.pumpkin they really butchered her character. But to be fair, Suleiman should have explained the situation to Hatice. Give her at least a heads up

Not condoning Ibrahim cheating at all obviously. But she should have expected the emotional distance when she went from listening to him play his violin and passing love notes to constantly reminding him that he is a servant of her family and she is his Sultana. She liked to throw around her place in the dynasty whenever she got in a mood. So he went into the arms of someone who just loved hin and didnt constantly remind him of his obligations to the empire like he was useless for anything else but serving the family.

@hurremsultannss

Жыл бұрын

I mean this is a result of her privileged upbringing. That said, he would have been far better off to openly and honestly talk to her about how he felt. The only person responsible for his decisions is him. He is an adult after all.

@angelayla8997

Жыл бұрын

@@hurremsultannss I'm not saying she's responsible for him cheating. He's the one that is. But she created distance in their relationship herself when she changed her personality toward him from sweet and in love to "you belong to us".

@hurremsultannss

Жыл бұрын

@@angelayla8997 OK yeah that part is fair. That paired with his fragile ego was a toxic combination.

@user-gs2fi5gh8q

Жыл бұрын

so if you are displeased with your wife (who actually gave you everything and risk the anger of her mighty relatives and her reputation to get married to you) - you should cunningly cheat on her, sacrificing the life of another innocent woman (Nigar)? Because you are too afraid to openly confront somebody stronger than you (your noble spouse)? After all, Hatice was right. He was a slave. Her brother didn't free him, but he never confronted her brother openly, pretending his alright with his position. Actually because Ibrahim didn't know his place a he lost his head. Hurrem was right about him when she warned her husband that Ibrahim wasn't his faithful servant and sworn brother, but a cunning snake in the grass. If not for Hurrem in the series the things would have turned way more sad for the Sultan and his family. Ibrahim was a dangerous wolf in a sheeps skin.

@hurremsultannss

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gs2fi5gh8q Exactly he was so selfish.

Good response from Hatice. If mahideveran used that advise to herself then she wouldnt be running about pullin people to be on her side

Even after nigar said those stuff hatice still relied upon for plotting against hurrem 😂

crazy how people binge this tv show and still don't study or research about the values of the religion they live upon and don't understand much because of it

@fleur257

Ай бұрын

That's what surprises me. These people kidnap women, keep them as slaves and concubines. And this show glorifies the whole situation.

@winifredoshiko1976

24 күн бұрын

But it’s like that here in Nigeria too kings can have 7wives and all buh a queen can’t plus they were his slaves and they all knew that he can’t keep one buh hurren added more pressure buh mahi was watching movie 😂😂😂😂😂

Mahidevran is not concerned about Hatice, she only wants to thwart Hurrem.

@leylaaydn7192

6 ай бұрын

That's like the whole point

I know that Ibrahim is Suleiman's best friend and all, but this was a pretty stupid move. Why in the world doesn't Suleiman grant the divorce? What Ibrahim did is not only an insult to Hatice but to him as well.

@cherylpiorkowski

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, Suleiman's reaction here doesn't make any sense. I'm not expecting him to behead Ibrahim just for having a mistress, but I don't understand why he doesn't let Hatice divorce him.

@Redluna32

Жыл бұрын

​@@cherylpiorkowskiIt's because it didn't happen to the historical Ibrahim, so it can't happen here. But that's no excuse for awkward writing.

@ping8966

Жыл бұрын

In my understanding, 1. Losing Ibrahim at this point is not good because not justbec as grand vizier but also as his bestfriend. 2. Suleyman would later discover by himself about the true color of Ibrahim and possible scenarios once Mustafa will inherit the throne. 3. A way of giving Ibrahim another chance just like what was given to the husband of Beyhan who was beheaded only on his 2nd mistake.

@user-ob4sq6fi3s

Жыл бұрын

@@ping8966 Beyhan's husband only shamed himself. Ibrahim shamed the dynasty as a whole. His punishment should have been more severe

@angelayla8997

Жыл бұрын

Suleiman always wanted people responsible for their own choices and consequences. Hatice married Ibrahim. It was up to her whether she wanted to stay or leave. Let him live or die. But Suleiman wanted her to make the choice since the marriage was something she wanted in the first place. When he finally dealt with Ibrahim it was due to Ibrahim's actions. Even if she tried to blame Hurrem.

Best rivals

Mahidevran does only think about herself and Mustafa I understand it but sometimes it annoys me how selfish she can be, The Sultan feeling sorry for Hatice is a joke look how he treats his concubines and wife!

How did this blow back on hurrem. Hatice actually had someone watching her back.

Hatica is actually a member of the royal ottoman empire 🎉 A real sultana

Hatice never should gave said anything about the way ,As she weakaned SULTAN MUSTAFA

Hatice was so shameless and blind that he still loved ibrahim afterwards..... This kind of women make men feel that they can do anything and they will face no problem for their wrongdoings

Poor Hatice 😢

Hurrem sultana shouldn't have saved nigar, she should have let her end

@user-ob4sq6fi3s

Жыл бұрын

I agree. She had outlived her usefulness anyway

@user-gs2fi5gh8q

Жыл бұрын

Looks like Nigar was useful to poison Hatice's life in the palace and remind her of how Ibrahim behaved towards her. Also, Nigar was always nice to Hurrem and helped her a lot in her days of trouble. It's only natural that despite Nigar's betrayal Hurrem still felt some kind of warm feelings towards her and tried to help her. What Ibrahim did to both Hatice and Nigar is unforgivable. He deserved his fate in the end.

@user-ob4sq6fi3s

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gs2fi5gh8q I agree. And frankly both Hatice and Nigar deserved far better. It's quite tragic actually: two so beautiful, elegant, passionate and intelligent women brought themselves to ruin because Ibrahim made them think that life without him is meaningless.

He betrayed her for years! She should have divorced him bc he's a betrayer. If he could betray Suleyman's sister, he could also betray Suleyman.

Sultán hatice shouldn't have said anything let hurrem win😮😮😮

👑❤️🌹•• His Majesty ••❤️🌹👑 feels just as 💔💔hurt and🥺😳 betrayed as his Beloved Sister. This segment was wonderful, thank🤙 you.

Амдәсәкмәәхһһюи❤❤юө ғоғһһ

Sultans feels bad for hatice but not for hurem and mahedevran. And hatice sent firuze to Suleman to hurt hurem now she can't tolerate her karma lolx

@SmartHd-hw3ty

20 күн бұрын

Cuz Suleiman and Hatice both belong to ottoman empire and hurrem and Ibrahim are just slaves their duty is to serve them. Its rule that Muslim Kings have harem and have many concubines in it and hurrem is also one of them so its not a cheating to get other women.but in the case of Ibrahim it is a sin bcz he is not a king and not the owner of harem he is just slave

Is it possible Hatice’s forgiveness to him was based on consequences she wanted them both to have? Think about it. What if her plan was to keep Nigar Khalfa’s daughter & stay married to Ibrahim to punish them both. The ultimate revenge of not letting those 2 lovers be with each other while having the child raised as if her own to remind Ibrahim of his sin of cheating on her & making Nigar believe the child dead to remind her of her sin of cheating with him. Also what if if her revenge towards Hurrem & Suleyman was with regards them not letting Ibrahim live therefore she no longer was in charge of his consequences & long suffering but rather because they allowed him a quick way to end his suffering & be with Nigar Khalfa in death & not her in life.

❤❤Ахасспе

Ahahaha look how nigar speaks to a sultana

@user-ob4sq6fi3s

Жыл бұрын

Hatice should have killed her and be done with it

@user-gp3xf7jp9n

Жыл бұрын

Hidden here

Hatices villian origin story lol

@SmartHd-hw3ty

20 күн бұрын

Real villain's are Hurrem Rustem and Mihrimah. Hatice sultan is the real female heroin and central character of magnificent century

Every one is scheming evil all the time

Hatise έπρεπε να τον χωρίσει και όχι να ρίξει το φταίξιμο στην hurrem για τον θάνατο του! Έπρεπε να βρει αλλού την αγάπη