I was there when you broke your spoke shave, the look on your face when it happened. Priceless.

@ENCurtis

4 ай бұрын

I was literally in shock 😳🤣

@josephlathrop1914

4 ай бұрын

@@ENCurtis you shouldn't have been cast iron isn't steel its vulnerable to fracture from impact. Ive lost 2 cast iron pans by snapping off the handle. Every time you hit it on the edge instead of tapping the steel you where probably creating micro fractures in the cast iron

@GibClark

4 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻I ended up with a couple of yardsale finds... then bought the Lie Nielsen about 4 or 5 years ago...... still questioning that decision.... of course I'm a jackass of all mediums... but the round handles give you no registration and the throat opening seems too small. Shaving jam up, constantly am digging out. Perhaps one day I'll remember to bring it to camp to be educated 😊

@lorddarphyve

4 ай бұрын

I was there too. The shock was palpable!

@woodshopsquared3183

4 ай бұрын

Not everyone knows this trick but set your blade at a slight angle so you have a side that cuts heavy and the other light

Eric forgetting words always makes me feel better about the time I forgot the word for cylinder and called it a tall circle

This my favorite spokesha... *grabs different one* _you_ are now my favorite spokeshave. lol

Eric, I recently retired as cabinet maker and used 64’s all my 48 years at the bench. My absolute favourite spokeshave. However I’ve never tapped the casting to adjust. I do however tap the blade. It’s worked for me for 48 years. All my eight 63’s & 64’s are in great condition with the exception of the paint I’ve worn off them from extended use as a chair maker. Just change the tap method.

@theMrFouldsy

4 ай бұрын

FYI, a score is 20.

@terrygleeson8480

4 ай бұрын

I stand corrected @@theMrFouldsy

@twcmaker

3 ай бұрын

I'm with you on that

I'd wager that tapping it on your work bench causes more metal fatigue than adjusting it with your hammer. When you hold the spoke shave loosely in one hand and the hammer in the other, tapping them together causes a small sharp shockwave/vibration similar to pool balls hitting each other. That energy is pretty gentle and dissipates in multiple directions kind of like a tuning fork decaying, but in an instant. When you swing the tool down toward your work bench, you're putting momentum into the mass of the whole tool. When it comes to an abrupt stop on that corner, the mass of the handle wants to continue downward and puts a large torsional force into a narrow point on the weakest part of the tool. An intuitive way to think of this is if you take a long thin strip of wood and swing it against the corner of your bench, it'll snap in two very easily. If you hold that same stick up in the air and beat on it with a hammer it's much harder to make it break. Hope this helps your new (to you) favorite spoke shave last the rest of your life!

@twcmaker

3 ай бұрын

I like this. I don't hit my Spokeshaves on the bench. I didn't even know it was a thing until 30 minutes ago. Tap with a 3oz hammer. A lot less effort and more control.

I stopped at a countertop place a couple years ago and asked if they'd sell me an off-cut. Guy just gave me a 1.5" thick granite cut out from a sink. It's a great size and flatter than I can measure.

Send it to This Old Tony and bet him he can't fix it. Or make a copy.

Content is better than half way OK! Top notch stuff. I love your things.

I have a weird way to adjust these and I've never seen anyone do it before. What I do is I set it on a known flat surface. With the blade loose. I then slightly raise the back up and let the blade fall then I tighten it down. If it's too far out I I loosen it and lower the back of the shave closer to the surface and then tighten again. Works 100% of the time for me and I never have ever had to hit it with a hammer. It also takes me seconds.

The number 64 spoke shave was produced from 1879 to 1963. By the markings on the blade it's probably from the 1950's

I have some old tools that were brazed and they work well. I like that it was valued enough that they took the time to repair it.

I use a small (5 oz?) plastic faced mallet to tap the heel of the blade/iron gently.

Weld it, that will be an adventure you will not forget...

"Eiffel Tower flat" is now my new reference for all things. Another great informative video Erik.

Another down-to-earth vid by Erik. Timely too, because I inherited an old, never used but neglected Record A151 several years ago from my father and will soon want to use it on an upcoming project. I'm also ready to restore a late 1940's Stanley Bailey Number 65 block plane in not bad condition inherited from Dad. Very useful video, Erik. Thanks!

I get my words muckin fuddled 😅

Awesome video. Inspired me to get one albeit not the same iteration and made in England. Arrived today and I have spent a lot more time restoring it than I initially thought. Blade in particular was in worse shape than it looked in the photos. But it is now done and works like a dream. £20 well spent.

Thanks for another fun and educational video. One more thing on the oil....there is just something about the smell of 3-in-1 on fresh metal. Smells like work is gonna get done.

@mikeking7470

4 ай бұрын

Did you know that an American piano maker used to recommend 3-in-1 oil for their wood surfaces?

@twcmaker

3 ай бұрын

🤔 Now you've said that.. Its true. It does smell like works going to get done.. Or it's already done

Only like 5 minutes in and made me think of another KZread channel I watch. Hand tool rescue. Dude does amazing work. Maybe consider having yours fixed and having two

Thank you for all your time and effort. I thought, in the beginning, OMG its a box opening! Where is this channel going ? Say it isn't so, but it turned out to be a really good video. Thanks again 1in 7.

Well, this was inspriring. I've had a newer Stanley spokeshave laying in a drawer for years. Cheap crap, or so I thought. Yesterday, after this video, I took it out and tuned it, turned the blade the other way around 🤦, and voilà! A good, working spokeshave, beautiful curls and surface. So thanks, and keep up the good work!

Went to my local granite slab company and bought a sink cutout from their graveyard for $5. Even had my choice of colors!

Anneal it once a year, its only about 700 degrees. It's just work hardening. Bit of time with a blow torch and it'd be good as new. Make the important bits glow red with a torch, let it cool in air.

Yay for Saturday mornings, and my weekly ENCurtis fix :-)

5:32 I’ve bought tools from eBay. I always contact the seller, ask a few questions about the tool I’m looking at, ask for 4 or 5 more photos from specific angles, ask if the seller has tried to use it, most of them say no, or “I played with it for a bit but it’s not really my kind of tool”. So I buy it, he says he’ll make sure it’s all there, put it together the right way, wrap it and send it tomorrow. The box arrives in a few days, I open it, I pull the tool out … and I usually laugh my funny bone off because it’s totally put together wrong! And then I say to nobody, “No wonder it’s not your kind of tool, the way you have put it together is not at all how the tool maker designed it to work!” LMFAO! I’m glad you were able to replace your 94 so quickly! Thanks for the clean up/pretend restoration!! PS Start Making channel sent me your way. I’ll hang around for awhile … maybe longer 😉

I have one of those, I think I shall treat it with a great deal of care from now on. Mine has indentations on the front and rear and says made in Eng.

Watching this video felt a lot like when my 10 year old explained 500 episodes of One Piece to me. ,-) // Good to see old tools getting some love. I often buy new because I don't trust myself to bring a tool back to usefulness. Thanks for the video!

Get a Stanley 51. Same adjustment, maybe a little bit more metal in the casting? Now you've got me scared I'm going to break it :(

When you kept putting up those "we apologize for continued broadcast issues" screens when you stumbled your words I,was dying! Very nicely done man. Education with some comedy is a winning formula!

You should have been named Tony. Quite the woodworking showman. Really enjoyed that. Lol! And get me started on Schmutz. My mother is Austrian. She see’s schmutz everywhere.

Love your style and your attitude towards woodworking.

Enjoyed the video, thank you! Please make a basics video on why/when and how you use a spoke shave.

There are days it's tough for me to English too. Especially when the coffee hasn't kicked in. But the video, as always, was great. Thank you tell next week. Keep your cup full my friend

My mouth is so used to saying the wrong thing at times, that I didn't even noticed you said the wrong name and thought in my head you said sole, until you mentioned it. :)

Cast metal blues... One question... only one? Who has one spokeshave? Then the follow up question... Why would you hit your cast iron steel spokeshave against your workbench? Do you hate your spokeshave? Maybe get an assortment of them - one for each task? That way - when you punish them you are really just spreading the love around? Just a thought. I'mma going back to fine tuning my new C&C with my new sledge hammer!

Brilliant Erik. Thanks for posting. You’ve inspired me to try restoring one. I’ve just purchased a 64 from eBay for £10.79 ($13.73) incP&P. I would really love to see a video from you about setting up and using the spokeshave. It’s a tool that doesn’t get much coverage on KZread. Ken from Southport UK

On the up side you have a spare blade and thumb screw!

Another great video glad to see you found a replacement for the broken one.hopefully you can have the broken one repaired. Thanks for sharing the steps on restoring the spokeshave

I just received my first spoke shave, the same model, beat up and well loved, given as a gift from a woodworker buddy of mine. I'm really looking forward to learning how to use it. My first project it'll be used on? Shaping the handle of the first dead blow mallet I'm building.

Excellent video Erik. I love how you keep going when you get your wucking mords fuddled. 🙂

Have you thought about getting in contact with a smith and using the old one as a pattern to make a mold and casting a new one, in that exact style, out of newer metal?

Man alive.. I love seeing a driver of the struggle bus bud! Really like the longer form.. maybe check what’s in that ol grin mug😮 as always.. you are awesome

6:41 that bump, hitting the bench sounded like there is a small crack in the body

3 in 1 oil... a man of culture, I see.

Cool

Do yourself a favor and get some Evapo-rust. Degreasing, then some time in Evapo-rust, then light oil. It will save you time and get rid of the rust in the nooks and crannies making your restoration last. Your use of "undulations" was spot on. Each tap causes a bit of flex and flex means fatigue and fatigue acts over time.

Awesome that you were able to get a new one.

Spokeshaves are so underrated. They can shape curves with ease and leave a finish ready surface with a sharp iron. Instead of using a steel hammer to set the iron use a small hardwood mallet. I made mine from Ironbark a tough as nuts Aussie hardwood - specifically for setting wooden plane irons.

@MemelordSupreme

4 ай бұрын

That's what I was going to say too. The metal on metal contact certainly increases the chance of breakage and causing micro fractures to occur since it's such a hard surface it's extra brittle. A hardwood mallet or hammer would certainly be better for longevity. While the wood is super hard it's nowhere near as hard as the hardened steel hammer head. All you want to do is put enough energy into the handle to scootch the iron. Wood would certainly do this perfectly fine.

Best way sharpen spokesman blade

I have a Stanley 51 and a 151. A Kunz 151 copy. I much prefer the 51 which looks quite similar.

As a former engineer I'm all too familiar with the choices made in design that affect the life of a thing. And all things do have a life, from material fatigue at the very least. Get into moving parts and now you've got wear bringing the life down further and introducing planned obsolescence along with it as companies will only design a thing to resist wear for so long. When I buy things, the more complex it is the more I'm willing to spend. When it's a solid piece of metal is when I spend the least, because at the end of the day it can just be welded back together. You could definitely get this fixed. I'm actually looking at getting into 3D printing so I can make replacement plastic parts for things. So many modern goods are garbage if a single fingernail sized plastic piece breaks.

Absolument enjoyed the video with the intermissions; we all have those days. Looking forward to the next video … !

thank you EN . i was a machinist on a ww2 sub tender back in 72 . a little back ground if you will. all metal gets brittle in time. old machists trick is to machine over sized and toss it in a manure pile for a yr lets the carbons jell if you will . it is not a practice used in manufacturing . words are hard too . good luck .

I love seeing the Made in the USA stamp on the blade. Thanks for sharing!

Must be awesome to have you as a teacher man! Great to be able to get some of that knowledge in todays age through things like KZread....just wish I could pick your brain in real time.... Thanks for the vid....its nice to see some restoration cause no doubt most have to do it at some point and time.

Thanks for this. I have an old Dunlap that is similar in style and wasn't sure how to restore and set it up. Now I do!

Recently bought my first spokeshave and am very grateful for any info on how to make it work.

I know what I want to do now, great video!

The one exception I found to being able to read the company name on the blade to determine the orientation was the Ron Hock spokeshave kit.

best video yet! big thumbs up from the UK!! 👍

I have been restoring Stanley planes and a Stanely #82 scraper over the last few months. I tried CRC Evaporust and that is amazing stuff. Environmentally friendly and reusable. Just let the parts sit in the solution and the rust is gone. It does not affect the Japaning, referred to as paint in this video. It removes the Iron Oxide, rust, without removing any metal. If I ever smacked open my father's tools on a work bench I would never been able to touch another tool of his. You learned a valuable lesson about cast metal, luckily you were able to find another to replace it.

Funny this is your topic for today. Just had a friend of mine cleaning out his attic this week and gifted me with a Stanley No. 64 and a Stanley No. 65. The 64 is usable but needs to be cleaned up and restored the 65 is in the same condition but missing the blade. Both should be nice additions once I get them touched up

My favorite thing about learning in this field is having you as my favorite woodworking buddy that I can turn to when I start crying because it’s not going my way 😅 or to share a project that came together!

@ENCurtis

4 ай бұрын

That’s friendship right there, my dude 😎

Repair the old casting by using a TIG torch to melt silicon bronze filler into the fractures. You just need to bevel the edges of the breaks a little bit and you will need to set up fixturing to hold the pieces while they are joined. The color of the bronze will be visible, but you can just repaint.

Those #64 shaves are my favourite. I have not broken one; that would be awful! I have also stopped counting them. No, stop looking at that spokeshave rack!

Sorry that words are not your friends but thanks from all of us for leaving those flubs in! I suspect that any brand new, in the box, spokeshave will also take almost as much "fettling" as your new to you classic. If you're not made of money (not all of us a KZread millionaires, LOL), look also to Taylor Toolworks and Kunz, I have examples of both that are "just" pretty good. You could use a small brass hammer to tap your spokeshave. Tapping it on the edge of the bench is much more stressful. And a granite tile is flat enough for woodworking.

Part of my soul died when I saw the thumbnail.

Cool I have an identical one and was wondering how to fix it up for use.

Pro tip if you or you know people in the trades you can find treasures like the granite top I got a couple years ago. Thanks for the video Erik

Great video, I've just finished restoring 2 Stanley spoke shaves & a cabinet scraper... took me a while, but I over fussed on preparing the blades... but then I enjoy that too ( OCD)😅

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" I knew it was glued together, but seeing a spokeshave splatter is hard.

A few friendly possibilities. W/R/T corrosion on iron or steel, if there is more than mere discoloration, you can often reduce or almost eliminate surface corrosion by working (sort of scraping) the area with the edge of a piece of copper and some oil (3-in-1 works!). No guarantees but often worth the effort. I have a few pieces of 1/8” sheet copper that have edges that work well for this purpose. Old pennies (not the post 1982(?) zinc pennies) work but not as well - relatively pure copper is better. The copper tone left by the scraping can be removed easily with 4-0 steel wool. For really fine surface clean-up, you can buy bronze wool that is obviously softer than any iron or steel product, and softer than many finishes other than paint. I totally take your point about the surface of the bench, but if people are concerned about this it’s very easy and cheap to keep a 2x4 piece of 1/4” MDF or equivalent around to lay down on top. It’s flat, cheap, easy to store and easy to “install” and remove.

Hey Curtis, if you have all the parts of your broken handle or at least most, it can be used as a pattern to make a new one. Any backyard sand caster can make a new one for you. You can even change the metal if you want a different weight. Threaded holes will need to be tapped. The surface around the blade will need to be flattened and square. A machine shop would know what to do there.

Thanks dude for another great video, last week I broke my pincers/nail pullers, couldn't believe it, they were only 40yrs old!! Still good excuse to go tool shopping, every cloud has a silver lining.

Wow the restoration took less time then your talking!

I believe you can Silver solder it together and it will be much stronger than brazing if I properly recall a repair article from sometime in the last 50 years

Duck tile iron, strong.

You should look at a no 52 spokeshave. Has the same handles with the center section of a 51. Great vid btw

I wonder about the history of this item, who , where, when was it previously used ?

Another great one, Erik. Thanks for the insights on getting into the spokeshave game. Speaking of spokeshaves … have you ever made an old-timey wagon wheel with wooden spokes? (A wooden-wheeled penny farthing bicycle?). That would be a dope video!

I need that coffee mug. You have it so prominently displayed in the video how do you not have a link to it? OK, back the regularly scheduled programing, lol

Another great one. Coffee I. Hand darkness outside and a 30 minute video to enjoy. Cheers.

Really nice informative video New t shirt idea “Lubritive woodworkers use 3in1” 😂

By the time u got to “spick and pan” I was cracking up.

Today's Lesson: BE KIND TO VINTAGE CAST IRON.

Anyone else here love the smell of 3 in 1 oil?

Restoring old tools can be quite lubracative

So if you want to try a flyer, some JB Weld with some steel reinforcing splines might save the original spokeshave.

Hey Eric, check out that woodworking magazine you were featured in,there’s a segment on making your own spoke shave, and it would be a fun show for you th to film

Thanks for sharing. If you’re looking for content. I am sure you could find a local foundry to make your own bronze version of this tool. I’ve always that would make for fun project.

My new, out of the box Veritas spokeshave won't even come close to taking a shaving cos the mouth is far too tight.Chris Schwarz recommends filing them open ,but it takes courage to start filing out a brand new tool.Why won't the damn things cut from new?

Stanley used Japanning on their planes and spokeshaves until after world war 2. It's a mixture of Asphaltum, linseed oil and turpentine and then baked.

Just love your channel and can not wait to see the next episode, as i do now already for a pretty long time. However.... Yup, here it comes.... Brade yourself... Wait... what??? Ok words are hard to type as well.😅 So, brace yourself. 4 ad moments? I do not want to use an adblocker, because this, beside the watchtime is my only way to support the channel. But it does take away the flow of your content and to be honest, it starts to get om my... well, you fill in the blanks. Just fyi... it is just my opinion. No need to lose any sleep over it. Now, go and prepare a new vid and have a great weekend.

i think it's cast iron, not steel so it doesn't like shocks ^^ I would go to a welding repair

Your Effel Tower comment was interesting as the components were cast and the mating faces were purortedly machined to 0.25mm (0.00984") tollerances

Can’t you adjust it by taking a few extra moments (I’d guess 15-30 seconds) loosening the screw and shifting the blade in a less damaging way?

You should include your hardware manufacturers in your video descriptions as well!

So one thing you did not cover is a wood body spokeshave, not for you or?? You do bring up some valid points with how you're hanging a broken hand tool. Yes I tried to break my #7 but got lucky.

Just picked up a 63 the round bottom version and hunting down a 64 because I hate the 151

Love your videos! Keep the “decent content” coming!