The reason that autors spoils John Silver evilness - evry kid in USSR know the plot of the book very well.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I can totally see that! lol that is awesome! I already knew it because I had read the book in school, but I’m so surprised with how many people in America do not even know that Long John Silver is the antagonist. Which is absolutely criminal given he is like one of the most intimidating villain in history!

@Quincy_Morris

5 ай бұрын

And the book only has a very short amount of time when you think “oh wait this Long John Silver guy might be ok”

There is a lot of debate currently online on who "owns" the cartoon and which "country" made it, but the best way to put it would be to say that this is a Soviet cartoon. I mean, it was literally made in 1988, 3 years before the U.S.S.R. fell apart. Meanwhile, although it was made in a Ukrainian studio, it was voiced in Russian by Russian, Ukrainian, and even Armenian voice actors (John Silver is voiced by the legendary Armen Dzhygarkhanian). It was a collective effort by people of various nationalities and/or ethnicities, and, again, made and broadcast in the Soviet Union.Therefore, the best way to identify it would be as a Soviet cartoon, not a "Russian" or "Ukrainian" one, if you know what I mean.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Indeed! That’s essentially what I came across in my research as well! And that’s the main reason in the beginning I said it’s more accurately made by the Soviet Union rather the either Russia or Ukraine. It probably would not have been the made the way it was if not for many moving pieces, but all the moving pieces were located within the Soviet Union! Thank you for letting me know about the voice actors! That’s an awesome detail I did not know! They were one of my favorite parts of the film and their overwhelming talent really brought the film to life!

@SATVRN2005

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner, of course! And, just as you mentioned in your video, one of my favorite parts (although I love the entirety of this masterpiece) of the movie was the end where the cartoon and corresponding voice actors were placed side by side. We have so many inside jokes and references relating to this movie in my family that it sometimes gets absurd.

@sylph4252

3 ай бұрын

Everyone, look at the clown above me and laught at him

@GreenLadaGD

2 ай бұрын

@@samuraitanner i found the russian version very easily tho just typing the name and it was easy to find for me and i think its a soviet cartoon and i have watched it over 7 times and its so good in russian

@Hellbat_the_Destron

2 ай бұрын

Thank you.

Hello, post Soviet, Russian speaking citizen here. This narrated bios have all characters "unmarried". The thing with it is that bios is joke - reference to other product of Soviet culture. TV show (series) "17 moments of spring" - about Soviet spy in Nazi Germany's gestapo in 1945. It is very good and popular show, and it gave birth to a lot of jokes and anecdotes, and it had such narrated bios about character in a style of short dossier in gestapo documents

@samuraitanner

10 ай бұрын

Hello! Thanks for leaving this comment!! I do believe I’ve been told this reference from a few other comments, but I don’t recall hearing a ton about the show itself! It sounds super interesting! I’ll have check it out sometime for sure! I love all the layers that this film has and how it was so in touch with the pop culture surrounding it!

@trimmerish

28 күн бұрын

@@samuraitanner The show is called "17 moments of Spring"

Ehhh...I feel like the English voice for Livesey made him sound like a creeper instead of a jolly soul. It's the difference in the laugh. The original VA has a laugh that feels contagious. At the very least, it can lift up your mood. The English VA has an unnerving chuckle.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

I can DEFINITELY see that lol the original voice actor is the GOAT for sure!

Fun fact: The bizarre character 'intro cards' are a reference to - and parody of - a massively popular Russian TV show about Stirlitz the spy. And I do mean MASSIVELY. Stirlitz jokes are an entire category of comedy all throughout the former Soviet Union!

@samuraitanner

7 ай бұрын

That’s crazy! I’ve been informed of this reference, but I had no idea it was such a widespread phenomenon! Thank you for sharing this!!

@MrVlad12340

2 ай бұрын

@@samuraitanner Stirlitz jokes are almost always based around his impossible coverup stories where he somehow finds an excuse for any slipup he makes, including wearing an ushanka and a soviet uniform once, reading a paper while sitting atop a telephone line, driving a tank through Berlin and etc.

Wow, respect for watching an original version

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It’s definitely the best way to watch it in my opinion! The translated subtitles inevitably cause some things to get lost in translation, but it’s well worth it just to hear the original voice performances! The actors were absolutely amazing and I can tell they gave so much personality to their characters, even though I don’t even speak the language!

Just so you know, Livesey is as much a gigachad in the book as he is in the film. The film is actually quite faithful to the source material.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for informing me! I’ll need to revisit the book sometime given the only time I’ve read it was in middle school! From what little I do remember, this film is pretty faithful indeed!

19:31 technically speaking this isn’t a war crime. When flags were still used on the battlefield a white flag (when it wasn’t the French) didn’t mean a surrender, it meant that the opposition was willing to negotiate. Silver does this in the scene where he waves the white flag and gives Livesey and co. the chance to surrender the map and he’d spare all of them which is refused. What WOULD be a warcrime would be if Silver used this negotiation to plan an ambush (a false surrender/perfidy).

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

That’s very true! I mainly put that in as a joke, but I can absolutely confirm you are 100% correct!

@powdereyes2210

5 ай бұрын

so basically in this case the white flag wasn't for Silver but instead the opposition... I see this as another threat, kind of like he was saying "obviously all of you are going to die, so I'm giving YOU a chance to save your lives" instead of "we give up"

The introductions are a nod to famous Soviet spy film Seventeen Moments of Spring where many of the characters were introduced in a similar way.

Ben wasn't familiar with Doctor Livsey before. He just decided from Jim's words that doctor is the one he can trust and who will understand his mental condition and give him cheese (that's from the book).

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for letting me know this!!

From the meme to seeing the actual movie, This was the biggest surprise I have ever witnessed of any animated film ever. Dr. Livesey and Long John Silver were massive show stealers. Those two have some of the best voice acting I heard in animation. When the Doc smiles, laughs, and speaks, I’m smiling and laughing with him. It’s very clear the voice actor is having the time of his life. With Long John Silver, I never got to hear the spoilers on his bio description (because I was still dumbfounded by the exercise musical number), so it was a genuine surprise for me when Silver went from sounding polite and scrawny on his first line, to sounding like this stone cold evil being. The most genuine WTF I have ever said for any film. And his threats to the good guys and crew were COLD!!! The action was the perfect mix of cartoon violence and batshit insanity. I was exhilarated the whole way through. Some of the animation was reused from time to time, but it’s forgivable, because the animators made up for it by giving us some animation techniques in this film that were really something. From Billy Bones’s Hurricane sneezes, to the walk cycles of the trio, John Silver, and the pirates, to the night to day transition, to Silver’s Reveal inside the cabin with Jim. This is some damn good stuff. The live action segments perfectly captured Russian absurdism. With lots of wide angle lens close ups, sped up footage, changing from color to black and white to only using one color to show the tone, to even changing the artstyle for the animation. Lastly; the ending for the Original version is just the best. I love that final curtain call of the voice actors involved with the production. We need this more in movies, so voice actors and animators can be recognized for their amazing dedication and talent that goes into movies like this. 10/10 (who knew a meme lead me to this treasure of a movie, and I will cherish it forever)

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

I honestly couldn’t of said it better myself! Even with the meme, this movie is an absolute underrated gem! Watching this movie and making this video is something I’m going cherish for the rest of my life, and I’m so glad it has reached others that enjoy it as much as I do :)

@dmitrilebedev8635

3 ай бұрын

Regarding the change in animation style. What we see in some static scenes is paper pieces technique -- arms, head, mouth, etc. are drawn on pieces of paper, and moved. That's a lot faster to film than drawing contours on transparent sheets and painting them. (I did the paper pieces in a real cartoon studio myself, in a kids animation course.) Their previous series, 1979 "Captain Wrongel's Adventures" (youtube MRq4qZM8kRg) had actually been filmed in paper pieces. But I guess in the beginning of production they learned of the new, more liberal media policies :) and wanted to make more action, which was impossible with paper. So they switched the technique (probably called experienced people from Moscow studios), but never had money or manhours to refilm those paper piece scenes.

6:59 - Whole profile thing is an homage to "Seventeen Moments of Spring" - a vast popular film/serial about spies. (Nevermind, you already know it, as I saw other comments) 17:06 - Not treasure, but cheese. That's the most hilarious thing. Also, with extra meaning that having gold alone doesn't help you. 19:27 - It's also a sign for negotiations. Which can be ruined.

The US localization is shorter because they expunged (?) all live action parts, particularly songs (probably because they promote healthy lifestyle and doing sports?). The narration parts are a reference to another certified classic of post-soviet hoods - "17 moments of spring" (a series about Soviet spy in Gestapo HQ)

I watched the movie, it has now become one of my favorite movies ever.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad to hear it! It’s an instant classic and an under appreciated masterpiece!! :)

@syk4517

Жыл бұрын

same same

@robbiewalker2831

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner making a cartoon based on a story about pirates looking for treasure (from the same author that made Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde) has to be a rough task for some companies; but this one got the basic gist on it. Also, I’m not sure if Jim and John’s relationship were suppose to be an important part of the original story, I just think it’s problematic on Jim supposing to heed Billy’s word on John Silver. BTW, Dr. Livsey, Jim Hawkins, and Captain Smollett, are all the main protagonists in my book; Jim being the Audience Surrogate and a Strong Boy to boot, Dr. Livsey being such an Enthusiastic Doctor, and Captain Smollett barking orders with such grit and spit. Also, like most people’s thoughts on Livsey’s voice in the original dub, Smollett’s orginal language voice is much cooler, and it sounded like Rolf from “Ed, Edd ‘n’ Eddy” if he was an old man. One more thing: it’s Skeleton Island, not Skull Island; you’re thinking of King Kong when you said that.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the info! A lot of amazing stuff you brought up! I totally agree with the main boys all being the protagonists and Jim being a bit of a stand in for the viewer! Also you are COMPLETELY correct about it being Skeleton Island and not skull island! The only reason I thought it was skull island was actually because the subtitles of the version I watched referred to it that way, but that was a translation mistake and I didn’t remember enough about the book to correct it at the time!

If you think there is nothing else similar to this ... then you haven't seen Russian Cinema and Cartoons in its golden years, from 80s to 90s ... when Zoomers of today will find Russian 'Winnie the Pooh' , they will go ape crazy with memes ... same with Captain Pronin or The Mystery of the Third Planet ...

@hfric

Жыл бұрын

Same can also be said about US cartoons in the 70s-80s when Ralph Bakshi took by storm the landscape with funny political cartoons that today are a time bubble how people where in those times : Fritz the Cat ,Heavy Traffic , Coonskin, Wizards, The Lord of the Rings Cartoon , American Pop, Hey Good Lookin',Fire and Ice , Last Days of Coney Island ... and the Cult live action cartoon movie "Cool World"

@hfric

Жыл бұрын

not to mention also the hippy cult cartoon "Down and Dirty Duck" , that its existence created Dolan the meme version of Donald Duck

I grew up on this movie in America, being the son of a Russian mom. I have the CD of this film, and, even at the age of 23, I watch it occasionally, whenever I need a laugh. Its one of my favorite Soviet cartoons.

@samuraitanner

6 ай бұрын

That’s so sweet!!

By the way, this is not the only Soviet film adaptation of Treasure Island. There were two more films in 1937 and 1971, as well as one mini-series in 1982. The film adaptations, of course, differ from each other.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for letting me know! Sounds cool! I’ll have to look into that for sure!!!

@user-my6ed5no5x

9 ай бұрын

1971 was way better then the 80s one.

@user-so2ly3ug8d

9 ай бұрын

​@@user-my6ed5no5x Лучше, чем обе экранизации из 80-ых? Ок. Однако вы промолчали про экранизацию из 37. Лучше ли вторая экранизация из 71 в сравнении с первой экранизации из 37?

@virmirfan

5 ай бұрын

​@@samuraitannerI do know that one of the movies was made by Disney, albeit it is a lot more sci-fi than the book

I don't know if anyone else pointed this out, but the title cards that introduce the characters in the movie (about 6:50 onwards) are a reference to the SS files that introduce characters from another Soviet classic, Seventeen Moments of Spring (war film, 1973). The original title cards always have a reference to the marital status of the character ("married, excellent family man"/"not married") as well as a reference to their temper (the word "character" is used in the original, i.e. "Nordic/semi-Nordic character") as well as to their Nazi party membership and other aspects of their biography. "Seventeen Moments" became massively, massively popular and firmly ingrained itself into the Russian culture, so everyone watching the movie in 1988 would have instantly caught the reference. Hope this cleared it up! :D

@samuraitanner

9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! Others have let me know, but I greatly appreciate the extra detail in your explanation! Helped me learn quite bit more about it! I’ll have to give it a watch sometime!

@ivanskopin7723

9 ай бұрын

@@samuraitanner Happy to have helped! :D

@Quincy_Morris

5 ай бұрын

I need to know if the intro cards stipulate the Nazi party membership of these cartoon characters. Is captain Smollet a Nazi? 😬

@virmirfan

5 ай бұрын

​@@Quincy_Morrisnope

I think "Not married" was added just for fun, like some meme thing from real files

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

I think you are correct! It’s a reference to a movie or more regional pop culture reference of the time added in by the film makers! There are a ton of references in there I’ve been told and it’s amazing!

@Timorfeys

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner this personal files stuff is the humorous reference for another cult classic in USSR - tv series about soviet intelligence serviece during WW2 ''Seventeen moments of spring"' /"Семнадцать мгновений весны". All characters there was introduced the same way. kzread.info?search_query=17+vuyjdtybq+dtcys+%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5+%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%B5

@Newdiletant

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitannerHere is a link to the series, cult in the post-Soviet space. kzread.info/dash/bejne/apqoqdivhaeXfto.html

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!!

@Yukon.72

Жыл бұрын

its reference to famous series Seventeen Moments of Spring, main character (Stierlitz) from which, alone like 1/3 of memes or jokes and anecdotes in ussr ussia

I discovered this movie several months after the memes made the rounds but this movie is far more than a meme from an animation, voice acting, and comedy standpoint.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!! I couldn’t put it better myself! It’s a masterpiece and a work of art!

@oneinathousand2156

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner Also, I would recommend checking out the studio’s earlier tv series “Adventures of Captain Vrungel (also translated as Wrongel)” if you haven’t already. It’s far more laid back tonally than Treasure Island, so it’s not meant to be as hilarious, and I would describe it as “cozy”. It uses a paper-cut-out style most of the time, but sometimes it switches to the crazy perspective cel animated shots in a less polished form than Treasure Island. The series is about a sea captain and his crew who are participating in a boat race across the world, but the third crewman is secretly carrying the stolen Venus de Milo statue with him, and so they’re constantly running into trouble from it. If nothing else, it’s interesting to see the beginnings of the style that would be perfected in TI. As a bonus, Dr. Livesey’s voice actor plays the main villain (plus another main character) and Pew’s voice actor plays the one who stole the Venus, though he’s totally opposite to Pew in personality. You can find an English translation here on KZread pretty easily, though unfortunately the audio quality isn’t the best and the footage has a piss-yellow filter over it. I have yet to find any Russian uploads of better quality that also have subtitles, but oh well. The most widely available version does well enough.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

I will absolutely check that out sometime when I get the time! That sounds so cool!! Thank you so much for letting me know!!! :)

@oneinathousand2156

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner no problem. I’ve fallen into a bit of a Vrungel rabbit hole, reading the original book, researching the cancelled video game sequel, listening to the rare record adaptation released 7 years after the show ended, so if you have any questions about it, you can ask me.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome!! Sounds like a blast! I’ll have to check it out! And I’ll definitely let you know if I have any questions!!

Innovative cartoon for its time, the first 3D cartoon only drawn by hand.

I live in Kyiv and the studio that created this cartoon is almost near my house. I have watched many wonderful and masterpiece cartoons, but this cartoon is special for me.

@samuraitanner

7 ай бұрын

For real? That is so amazing!! This cartoon is truly something special indeed!

that character introducing is reference to "17 мгновений весны" movie there are lot of references...

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for letting me know!! I definitely wish I was able to catch a lot of the references, but sadly they where just lost to me over here! I absolutely LOVED the concept of the character intros! They were amazing

@Stormidze

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner like this one kzread.info/dash/bejne/dneXlKxql5O8XZc.html

@Stormidze

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner also that part when guy shooting canon like beltfed mg is reference to Rambo that Jim's karate style fight in Bristol is reference to Bruce Lee and so on

It's a pity that the cartoon didn't make it to the world market, then I think it would have become a hit in 1988 on the same level as Akira.

Hawkins is secretly part Enderman before Endermen were discovered, did ya know that?

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Facts!

Fuckung hell, I love you man. Okay, now that I am less emotional and more rational. This show was directed by David Cherkasskiy, the man, the myth, the legend. I am not sure if that is of any interest to you, but he and his animation team were also behind two other major animation projects, somewhat similar in style. There was a whole-ass TV series "The Adventures of Captain Wrongel" based off of a 1930s kids book about, well, a funny captain in a round-the-world journey. The thing was about 13 episodes long and apparently aired on TV in the late 70s. There also was a seven-episode long series "Doctor Aibolit" (literally - Doctor Owithurts, the soviet adaptation of doctor Doolitle). They are not so memeworthy as this megapiece of a show, but they have some similarities in style and even re-use some animation patterns, if that makes sense to you. The two also have an interesting way of combining live shooting (mostly background scenery) and animated characters for the time. I am not sure if you will ever consider seeing those, but I can get my hands on both originals and do explaination of wtf is going on with then if you are ever curious. Thanks for the work! Cheers!

@samuraitanner

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!! I am quite interested in these other projects you mentioned indeed! I’ll look into it some more and let you know in the future if I decide to cover them and need any additional help/details/explanations. I’m not sure if or when I could make a video on these, but from your descriptions alone, they really do interest me for sure!

Really good video! I love this movie and I'm very happy that it starts to get the love it deserves. If you liked this movie, maybe you will enjoy the movie "The Adventures of Captain Vrungel", it's from the same creators, and has the same energy, although a little less dark at times. Would love to see a video about it!

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! That means the world to me! Like wise, I’m so happy that this video has reached so far to others that love the film all around the world! I have been recommended Captain Vrungel by a few viewers and I can definitely say I’m very interested in watching at some point! It seems like a blast! I’m not sure when I’ll be able to fit in, but I’d absolutely love to possibly make a video on it in the next few months! It might be awhile in the future, but that is now a project I’m DEFINITELY looking into! Thank you again so much for your kind words and great suggestion! :)

@iscander_s

9 ай бұрын

@@samuraitanner there was three cartoons by David Cherkassky with similar style and animation: 1979 Adventures of Captain Wrongel, 1984 Doctor Aybolit and 1988 Treasure Island. You can actually see how skills and budget grows with each cartoon and cutout animation is more and more replaced with proper cel animation

@samuraitanner

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for letting me know this! I will have check them all out soon!!

@Bairam

9 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3-svKZ_edyYnpc.html Thats from captain Wrungel cartoon :)

EXERCISE IS UNDERRATED

Hi fella! I'm late to the game, but as a Russian-American I'm so stoked that you found this treasure-chest (pun intended) of a movie! Was a huge fan of it in my childhood...even crushed on Jimmy Hawkins !! Yeah I mean it when I was the movie was BIG for me and my Russian cousins !! Thank you for sharing.

@samuraitanner

7 ай бұрын

That is so awesome!! Thank you so much for this comment!!!

One point here, flying a white flag does not mean you surrender. It could also mean you are asking for a cease fire. Say both sides should be given time to take care of their wounded and get some bloody rest from all the hard figthing. And finally, it's usually flown when you want to parlay. That is, discuss details about how to end hostilities. It's not a war crime to bear a white flag to tell the other side to surrender. It would however be a war crime to use the white flag to perform a surprise attack or sabotage. But no, the white flag is basically a means of saying you come in peace and mean no harm.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

You are 100% correct! I just put that in mainly because I thought it was funny and because of how fast the fight commences after they stop talking. But yes it is not technically a war crime at all since Long John’s men didn’t attack while he was holding the flag or talking to them!

@Bluesit32

Жыл бұрын

The white flag doesn't mean surrender, but it acts as a step toward surrendering. If there's a white flag being waved, they know not to take you out at a distance. And in a way, it was used for surrender in this movie. Just not Silver's. He was giving them the chance to fork it over and survive.

Carrying flag of truce does not necessarily mean you surrender. It means just that - a truce, temporary or not, for the purposes of parleying with the enemy. Only when you wave it does it mean "I surrender". So no, this is not a war crime.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

You are correct! It was more so just a joke for the video, but yeah a white flag can definitely be for a truce! Historically (especially in warfare) it tends to be more associated with surrender and “false surrendering” is most definitely a war crime, so I thought it would a funny bit for the video lol

@Shanbo26

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner WAVING a white flag, however, does signal a surrender.

that is the single greatest way to appreciate and credit the voice actors ive ever seen holy shit

@samuraitanner

3 ай бұрын

For real! It kinda blew my mind with how awesome it was!

6:38 These are actually a reference to a famous (In USSR obviously) movie "Seventeen moments of Spring". This movie also a foundation of millions russian jokes (i dont really know why, the movie isnt funny at all)

But the songs! The songs are so good and with live sequence its basically a rock-musicle

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great point! I totally agree they are pretty amazing!!

I was praising Dr. Livesay before the meme and I was so happy to see that he blew up. Dude was such a chad

I recommend watching Doctor Aibolit by the same authors, also in the original with English subtitles.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Looks like a lot of fun! I’ll definitely have to check it out!!

Fun fact about character bios - in the original book Silver was in fact maried to a woman of African descent.

I know im late, but the easiest way to find the full movie subtitled in english is to search it in russian, latinized. "Ostrob Sakrovisch"

@samuraitanner

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for this tip! It’s sure to help many find this classic with likely more quality subtitles then what found!! Thank you!!

"not married" in bio was mocking of popular Soviet spy movie from 70-s that did the same bio thing

@lussdoru3108

7 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/dneXlKxql5O8XZc.html

I just watched it and as you said, there's a lot of love and dedication put into it. It's very entertaining in general and doesn't fail on giving you the occasional laugh, even the live action parts (which usually feel out of place in animation movies) are funny and fitting to the feel of the movie. I wish there was a voiceover version in english or a dub on the full movie just like it was published originally (subs work just fine though, let's hope YT doesn't take it down some day)

The narrator's introduction of characters is another Soviet meme referencing Soviet spy drama "17 moments of spring".

I’ve read treasure island many times. This cartoon is remarkably faithful to the basic plot of the novel. And most of Livsey’s most chad lines are directly from the novel. Though they did my boy Smollet dirty in this. He’s much more badass in the book.

Amazing vid. Keep it up

What standed out in the movie for me the most is the fact they did not go easy way of having just characters doing stuff on the static background. There were many moments where perspective shifted during one scenie doing so in very dynamic way - which really shows skill of the animator - I see many current era indie animation studios doing stuff like that during fight sequences as a way to show off skill - like in one of Helluva Boss episodes.

@samuraitanner

4 ай бұрын

Same! That stood out to me as well! Surely animation like that had to be incredibly ambitious back then, I mean I’d say it still is pretty ambitious to pull of today!

The cartoon has a lot of slapstick, but the plot is almost beat for beat true to the book.

That is the most virgin dub I’ve ever heard. I implore everyone here to watch the full subbed version.

Great video mate, you deserve more subscribers.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! That means the absolute world to me!!

Also, in the novel, Ben Gunn sees Dr. Livesey entering the fort with Trelawney & Smollett, and that's where Gunn asks to meet the doctor. Still not really a clear reason, but hopefully it provides a little more info.

@samuraitanner

11 ай бұрын

I like to believe he just sensed his powerful energy and knew he was the one to speak to

@capt_capstan

11 ай бұрын

@@samuraitanner That's honestly more perfect that what the book says 😂

Thank you for making me realize how unique this cartoon was! I watched it in 1988 or 1989, when I was 6-7 and my younger sister was 4-5 yo. We loved it! We would parody Captain Smallet with his shouts in the rowing scene ("one!-two!-one!-two!") and this shout-spitting as well. As I remember, we didn't get the Livsey humour at all -- only later as teenagers we got the irony. We never had a VHS player so we were happy to see it aired on TV (fortunately from mid-1991 private TV stations started to appear, and they needed content). By the way, I realized I never noticed many of these pirates died -- the one who was shot with a nut in his mouth, or those in the very end caught by Livsey. The cartoon never seemed to have much violence until I saw you pointing this out. There was pretty enough of violence either in Soviet movies that glorified WW2 heroes (they were dead serious and tough), or Western fight movies like the Terminator, or Rambo. Kiev studio had previously made some really original and "weird" cartoons like Alice in Wonderland in the '70s and Captain Wrongel in the '80s. But this one went much further in funny fighting scenes -- I suppose the makers by the time had got VHS cassettes with Tom & Jerry, Duffy Duck or Speedy Gonzales, and tried to make it this way. This much action is very very what was done in soviet cartoons, because this kind of action before Glasnost policy could not get the artistic committee's approval. So now I'm actually surprised they did it well enough at the first shot, without this kind of culture around. But I must point out this would have been impossible without Glasnost policy started in 1987, when artistic commitees loosened. And another thing to point out -- this is very postmodernist cartoon -- no serious morale, breaking every possible norm -- the kind that started to appear in the USSR only in early 80s, from the Plasticine Crow (1981), Last Year's Snow Was Falling (1983) and becoming mainstream since ~1986. Younger generations of Russians often don't get it at all. For me this was the default, and the Western cartoons were add-on. For them it's something abnormal, different from the Disney they got plenty of -- which had proper good characters and villains fighting with each other. (Peak postmodernism in Soviet cartoons was in 1991 -- they're really crazy even to my standards, and TV channels didn't like to show them.) The script actually follows closely the soviet adaptation of Treasure Island, of 1978, IIRC, which was a remake of another soviet movie from the '50s or '60s, which, of course, have no comedy part, but are dead serious and tough. The mixture of cinema and cartoon was actually not rare -- the Hedgehog in the Fog has pieces of it, and same studio's Captain Wrongel too. But in the Treasure Island, it's done a lot better. As a kid even at 7, I did understand this is imaginary and not real, but liked the combination, where the drawn pirate kills a real actor. And the titles speeches were very interesting even to a kid. But I never realized how unique this is. I saw dismissive comments on this cartoon from our compatriots, and myself saw its graphics is rather sketchy compared to foreign analogs of the time. And those who were born in the '90s say this is one of "those weird Soviet cartoons". But you made me appreciate it more, thank you!

@samuraitanner

3 ай бұрын

Your welcome! So glad you enjoyed my video! Thank you so much for your comment, I enjoyed reading it very much!!

@dmitrilebedev8635

3 ай бұрын

@@samuraitanner you're welcome. Couple of corrections: 1. "this much action was very rarely done in Soviet cartoons". I mean you couldn't make a cartoon with characters fighting like this. 2. A couple of words on artistic committees: they were ultimate instance of both censorship and production approval. It was sike thesis defense: a group of management from all departments of the studio, plus someone from the communist party cell responsible for the ideological part. Director & script writer would have to defend their script before the production, and the final work after it, to make sure you didn't film something "anti-soviet" (quite a notion back then). Nothing was banned formally then, instead it was a matter of taste of the (elderly) members of the committee and studios management. By mid-'80s, according to some reviewers, they had choked everything interesting and funny, so the creators in the media industry were sick of it. So the committees were loosened (IDK how in particular) in Gorbachov's Glasnost policy declared in '87.

I was actually really surprised when the meme came around because a friend of mine who's into Soviet cartoons showed me this years before it became a meme.

Marvelous video Tanner

2:09 Holy shit, how big the soviet union was. Even Turkey, Romania and Bolgaria in it. I love it (dear author, please check your maps more accurately)

@samuraitanner

9 ай бұрын

Yes, I totally forgot about that until someone pointed it out to me lol my apologies for the inaccuracy, I think I probably just picked that one because I thought it would be funny or something lol

That map of the soviet union gave me crippling depression

Thanks for the link!

@samuraitanner

6 ай бұрын

Enjoy!

I was told that the character bios having "not married" in them despite none of them being married was a reference to a Soviet film released in 1973called Seventeen Moments of Spring. I can't confirm that for sure but it's something.

@samuraitanner

11 ай бұрын

It think you are correct! I’ve had quite a few people tell me the same thing! I’ll have to check it out sometime for sure lol

Saw it and I think it was ok. The beginning of the main animated scenes started strong with not only the comedy but the dark atmosphere which later didn't get better but was just good. First live action segment was funny but then their cutting got annoying and the jokes were getting less funny, animated scenes still got a good chuckle out of me. John Silver had a very intimidating and creepy vibe until they get to the island but he still has his moments with being the main antagonist still being a threat and being awesome. But the final scene before the credits was pretty disappointing.

@samuraitanner

8 ай бұрын

Valid opinion indeed

23:51 , dude still hanging XD

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

One of the best details in the movie! 😂😂

it’s one of my favourite childhood cartoons, it so warming to see it being recognised by more people outside of eastern europe!!✨

One of us!

i really like how intimidating silver is, straight up threatening his own men that he'd kill anyone of theme who try to betray him and in the end just letting theme all die not careing for theme

I had the dvd since 2008

As a person who literally grew up on this cartoon (I'm Russian, and therefore watched it in the original), I'm very glad to see not only interest in memes, but also in the cartoon itself, which is an absolute masterpiece

@samuraitanner

4 ай бұрын

Always so happy to read a comment like this! I’m so glad my video reached that far and especially to those who actually grew up with this masterpiece!

7:00 These bio cards are reffering to soviet spy movie "17 moments of spring" where quite similar cards appear.

Good time of day 18:27 This is the Easter egg for the movie "First Blood" with Sylvester Stallone in 1982. Many Hollywood films were imported to the USSR in the 80s, especially Soviet citizens liked classic action films with Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Chuck Norris and other muscular heroes of that time. It is also worth noting that the image of the main character of the film "First Blood" is in many ways similar to the image of Soviet soldiers who fought in Afghanistan, formally they fulfilled their military and civilian duty, but society was indifferent to this. Historical background Since the 70s, the USSR has supported the secular democratic government in the war against radical Islamic fundamentalists and sent its military units to Afghanistan.

this movie was amazing

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

It’s so amazing! It’s one of my favorite things I’ve ever watched!

@lexmark66

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner same here.

this is not your video, this is OUR video

Question unrelated, how lively is the market for tanned samurais?

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

It’s a small but competitive market

Man, I'm russian, and i must say, that you literally lost a lot of jokes. Of course, that's not your fault, but there's s lot of "reading between lines" in the Russian version. And its just more funny than English.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

So glad to see your comment! I’m so happy it reached that far! I totally understood that I was likely missing out on a lot by not speaking the language, the entire time I watched it I wished I could watch it through the eyes of someone that could understand it in it’s entirety, but I still loved it nonetheless!

@tomaszc.2316

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner I co z tego? Jest wiele pozycji filmowych, które są bardziej rozumiane w pewnych krajach, a w innych zupełnie mniej. To normalne.

Could you do rivals of Aether workshop, ultra instinct fox only?

13:14 Exercise is really good for the Prefrontal Cortex

the squire looks like me

Had a look at original you linked, and CC there terry bad, like that first live action, where cap says "right now they prolly gonna kill me" and cc's write some "gonna run away".. where th they found that run away? there not a word told or shown for that cc to be there. and then choir sing "luidors and bullets sing their song" again, there no any bullets, its Louis d'or and piastre (ie french and spanish coins) ringing. and there just a lot, like a LOT of wrong captions.

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that! It’s the only one I could find at the time (especially in that good of quality), and it seemed to be from a Russian channel so I kinda trusted it was at least decent CC/translations. Sorry about that! I believe someone linked another video somewhere here in the comments though! And luckily, other versions are pretty readily available if you search hard enough off of KZread if the one I linked is as bad as you say! Thank you so much for letting me know this! I wouldn’t have anyway of knowing without you bringing it up!!

@Yukon.72

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner nah, you are not guilty that someone else doing their job halfassed way. you not seen yet Adventures of Captain Wrongel that people recommended to you earlier?

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

I have not seen it yet! I still need to get that one watched! I’ve heard many good things and had many recommendations for it! I’ll have to track it down and watch it at some point soon!

Great video, glad you liked the movie. Btw Soviet Union was made up of 15 republics not sure where you got 21 info

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m sooo glad you enjoyed it!! This is by far one of my favorite videos I’ve ever made and I’m so proud of it! And also I wouldn’t be too surprised if my facts were a bit off regarding the republics! Thank you for letting me know!! That whole “background” part of the video at the beginning were I mentioned them was a bit last minute, but I wanted to do my best to add in some context to where the movie originated!

@11:46 love how ben sounds like hurbert from family guy.

@samuraitanner

11 ай бұрын

Omg your right 😂😂

19:30 a white flag or flag of truce is not to denote surrender but to denote non hostility and request to converse with an opposing faction. This can be used to request an opponent to surrender or to negotiate your own surrender, not an admission of one. Though generally speaking the side asking to make terms by waving the white flag is the one getting beat thus there is a connotation of surrender and defeat associated with the white flag.

@samuraitanner

5 ай бұрын

Very great points! Thank you!!

Wait till you guys find out about captain Vrungel the better cartoon

@samuraitanner

9 ай бұрын

I’ve been recommended it a few times now, it sounds wonderful!! Imma definitely check it out! Might even make a video on it at some point

Livesey memes aside (although that’s a good meme), the film really does deserve some respect. It’s got quite distinct animation and some quite good humour.

the animated characters are drawn from the soviet film charachters

I've seen someone else review this as well,do you know who it is?

@samuraitanner

8 ай бұрын

Well, I know a fairly large KZreadr named Saberspark made a video on this movie, but his mainly just focused on the Livesey meme. Other then that I recall another review titled “Treasure Island 1988 was insane” or something like that, but I can’t seem to find it now. Sorry I wasn’t able to help!

@AG-tl8oq

8 ай бұрын

​@@samuraitanner it's fine,your video is more than enough anyway

@samuraitanner

8 ай бұрын

Happy to hear it! Thanks mate!! Cheers!

@AG-tl8oq

5 ай бұрын

​@@samuraitanner no problem!

Пожалуй теперь моя любимая фраза это: "Слово рум(ром) и слово смерть для вас означают одно и тоже"

2:10 uhm.... why is turkey a part of the USSR?

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

I’m not entirely sure why I used that picture in particular lol Quite possibly a mistake, I think I just used it because it was the least visually cluttered map because it didn’t have names on it.. I totally forgot about this, my mistake!! 😂😂

@Stormidze

Жыл бұрын

why not?)

@Max_Jacoby

Жыл бұрын

probably they confused it with Sakhalin 😄

@jaskkk

11 ай бұрын

it's the map from the future, relax)

Dr. Livesey. Russian Gigachad, before Gigachads were invented!

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!

@chingapu7308

7 ай бұрын

The cartoon was made by Ukrainians and has little to do with Russia.

@t76480

Ай бұрын

@@chingapu7308 Что ты скажешь через годик, когда Киев станет снова русским?

@chingapu7308

Ай бұрын

@@t76480Ти відповідаєш за це якщо ні так ти признаєш себе під@расом?

@chingapu7308

Ай бұрын

​@@t76480І ще до речі не пішов ти нах за крейсером маЦква москалик :)))

Ставлю лайк, ты заслужил

2:06 this map is wrong, the soviets never had Turkey plus this includes the Warsaw Pact nations

Watch it in original with english subtitles ❤

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

I did for this very video! Even recommended the same to everybody! It’s the FAR superior version!

@Wow4ik4ik

Жыл бұрын

@@samuraitanner this is the only option, when you can hear the Gigachad voice 😍

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!! 😎

"Meme cartoon" Yegg

Positive comment

What kind of a USSR map was that hahahaha 2:12

@samuraitanner

6 ай бұрын

An incorrect one lol 😂

15 republics = USSR - not 21

@samuraitanner

7 ай бұрын

Indeed! My mistake entirely! That section of the video in which I attempted to explain some USSR background for my American audience was put in a bit last minute, and thus contains a few mistakes! So sorry for that! Totally my mistake!

02:13 god bless turkish socialisct republic

Not August 2022, but 2014.

God bless the movie is pirated on yt

@samuraitanner

Жыл бұрын

God Bless indeed!

@cockyblack

Жыл бұрын

В смысле Оно ж всегда было в свободном доступе

"Hedgehog in the fog." You need to see it. It's short. This Soviet cartoon was recognized as the best at all times for its animation technique. It has spawned many anecdotes and memes.

@samuraitanner

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing this with me! I’ll definitely look into it!!

2:10 Mongolia wasn't part of the USSR

Didn’t Disney rip this off with treasure planet?

@Bluesit32

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it's based on a book. In fact, the script in this animated film is sometimes too accurate. In the book, Hawkins and his friends have three sailors that remain loyal to Captain Smollett. So in the book, Smollett suggests attempting to fight, as they are seven men strong. He says that in the movie, despite there only being four people. Plus, Jim tells Dr. Livesey that Billy Bones had a stroke, despite the problem obviously being a blow to the head. Dr. Livesey says it wasn't a stroke, just the effects of an over fondness for rum...again, instead of head trauma.

Ну и круто

Whatch full wersion.

Хороший анализ

@samuraitanner

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Let’s be real the English songs despite being just vocals and a drum are legit

This goddamn movie has over 3 times higher death rate than 1917 Russian revolution

@alexandersedov9896

7 ай бұрын

This is absolutely consistent with the classics - Karl Marx and Robert Louis Stevenson.