I Watched Movies That LOST Over $100 MILLION!

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Hollywood movies are expensive, but no worries; they recoup their investment.... most of the time.
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⌛TIMECODES⌛
0:00 Intro
1:13 Cutthroat Island
6:37 Mortal Engines
11:14 The 13th Warrior
14:34 The Lone Ranger
18:35 John Carter
22:44 Outro
23:22 Patron Thank You's / End Screen
In this video, I take a look at the 5 biggest box office bombs of all time. All of these films spent big, but came up short; as they all spent hundreds of millions of dollars, only to see measly returns. But are these films that bad? Well let's see. We have the following films: Cutthroat Island, Mortal Engines, The 13th Warrior, The Lone Ranger and John Carter; with the last 2 costing their respective studios over $200 Million! But are these films even what you would call: Bad Movies? Well in some cases, yes. In some cases, maybe not?
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  • @Suspect_Green
    @Suspect_Green5 ай бұрын

    Hey guys, wanted to reupload this one as this is in line with my new format. Might move some of my older reviews over too. Or if you haven't seen this video yet, hope you like it!

  • @MichaelAnthonyPresents

    @MichaelAnthonyPresents

    5 ай бұрын

    Glad to see this is reuploaded. I was watching this video earlier today and midway through it, it said it was set to private lol

  • @t6kr958

    @t6kr958

    5 ай бұрын

    2:50 That stunt was incredible but I only just noticed that it wasn't one big stunt. It was 2 seperate shots so that they timing of the fall and the horse carriage didn't have to be perfect. You can just barely see the transition at 2:53 if you pay attention to the positioning of Geena Davis. Still really good though EDIT: Actually I just played it in slow motion and I'm not too sure if I'm right . Davis' hair in a couple of frames looks kinda cropped so It gives me the sense that it was cropped around Geena Davis and that's how they stitched together 2 different takes, although it's hard to tell, and considering it's an older movie then the stitching of the 2 sperate takes shouldn't look that good, so I could be wrong about all of this lol

  • @Suspect_Green

    @Suspect_Green

    5 ай бұрын

    @@t6kr958 Yeah, it does look like a transition in hindsight. But that's kinda even more impressive. Considering it was 1995. The kind of VFX to pull this transition off didn't exist really at the time. Kudos to the guys who worked on this scene! Cos I totally missed this uptil now.

  • @riripi4

    @riripi4

    5 ай бұрын

    Honestly, reuploads like this would give me an excuse to rewatch these goated videos so I'm all for it.

  • @aliceosako792
    @aliceosako7924 ай бұрын

    One thing about _The 13th Warrior_ is that it is a 'realistic' adaptation of _Beowulf_ (where Grendel is actually a tribe of raiders), combined with the memoirs of the real life 10th century world traveler ibn Fadlan. No, seriously. If you aren't aware of that, the whole film makes no sense. I'm not sure how much sense it makes if you do know it, but it does help. It's an OK film, if I remember well enough, but confusing as hell as it is.

  • @sychuan3729

    @sychuan3729

    4 ай бұрын

    It has perfect sense without knowing this. Btw, I'v read Beowulf and never seen connection, until I found it in web. Most of movies he discusses here are pretty good. They bombed becouse of over top budget and competition with some other movies.

  • @TimL-nr4hr

    @TimL-nr4hr

    Ай бұрын

    About halfway through the movie, I was "hey, this is Beauwolf!" but from the perspective of a guy who is just traveling with them.

  • @DronkenDrenthen

    @DronkenDrenthen

    Ай бұрын

    Them raiders where the last tribe of Neanderthals

  • @AlyrArkhon

    @AlyrArkhon

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, there are some scenes directly from Beowulf, and there are really cool shots (the fire snake for example), but on the other side this is a "we have Seven samurai at home, with vikings", with horrible historical inacurracies and neanderthals. As a teenager I liked it. But now I see why it failed.

  • @sychuan3729

    @sychuan3729

    29 күн бұрын

    @@AlyrArkhon Ir failed becouse of extremly big budget and nothing more. Seven Samurais aren't historicaly accurate as well. And for example loved by everybody "Dances with Wolves" is historicaly simply disgusting

  • @alexc6784
    @alexc678429 күн бұрын

    Check out the box office for the week Cutthroat Island was released. Toy Story, Jumanji, Heat, Father of the Bride, Casino, Golden Eye, Casino. That's more quality in a single week than we get now in 10 years.

  • @guarantweed

    @guarantweed

    21 күн бұрын

    Dang, no wonder it bombed. I like every single one of those movies. I also liked Cutthroat, but it would have been the bottom one on the list to go see with those movies. And I did, I saw Casino, Toy Story, Heat and Golden Eye in theaters. Man, the good old days.

  • @schizzo8959

    @schizzo8959

    18 күн бұрын

    Casino is so good it is on here twice.

  • @quercusquercus532

    @quercusquercus532

    16 күн бұрын

    Father of the Bride II - closer to Cutthroat Island than Toy Story, I think? Seems like the exception that proves the rule, though, cuz that's a hell of a list.

  • @alexc6784

    @alexc6784

    16 күн бұрын

    @@schizzo8959 yeah. Also Casino is good

  • @ssoory6343

    @ssoory6343

    11 күн бұрын

    The title seems to reflect its box office competition on release

  • @enriqueperalta6059
    @enriqueperalta605927 күн бұрын

    Oh man. Right at the start. Gena Davis was a known name and she had made the underated "Long Kiss Goodnight" where she played an assassin. There is a lot of context missing from this take just due to age.

  • @EmeraldCityVideo

    @EmeraldCityVideo

    19 күн бұрын

    Yeah, that was my thinking. He’s too young to remember Fletch 😂

  • @thechefette3701

    @thechefette3701

    16 күн бұрын

    Long kiss goodnight came out after cutthroat island

  • @enriqueperalta6059

    @enriqueperalta6059

    16 күн бұрын

    @@thechefette3701 yeah I forgot. They were just a year apart.

  • @williambryan3346

    @williambryan3346

    6 күн бұрын

    Don’t forget, Geena Davis (correct spelling) had already established herself on the big screen in The Fly (1986), Thelma & Louise (1991), and A League of Their Own (1992).

  • @Maxwel_Rodrigues
    @Maxwel_RodriguesАй бұрын

    To be fair, The 13th Warrior and The Sixth Sense share the same distributor (Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures were owned by Disney), so it was stupid to release the films on the same weekend

  • @jasonblalock4429
    @jasonblalock4429Ай бұрын

    Another issue with Lone Ranger is that it perpetuated a really annoying trend: making origin story movies about popular characters that only let them become the character at the very end. I didn't like being forced to sit through 2 hours of fluff, and then only get 20 minutes of the awesome Lone Rangering that I had paid money to see. Let's bring back the 90s standard where the hero is born by the end of the first act. Or better yet, in the prologue.

  • @ASpaceOstrich

    @ASpaceOstrich

    26 күн бұрын

    This is a perfect criticism of this trend. Origin stories need to tell the heroes first outing, not what created the hero. Batman starting out as Batman is interesting. Bruce Wayne before he becomes Batman is less interesting.

  • @jesseowenvillamor6348

    @jesseowenvillamor6348

    22 күн бұрын

    Nah. Nothing wrong with origin stories. Wrong opinion.

  • @dante_0962

    @dante_0962

    19 күн бұрын

    @@jesseowenvillamor6348that’s not what the person talking about.

  • @jesseowenvillamor6348

    @jesseowenvillamor6348

    19 күн бұрын

    @@dante_0962 Yes, it is.

  • @TheGoddamnJefe
    @TheGoddamnJefe29 күн бұрын

    Thelma and Louise solidified Gena Davis as a top star in the 90’s. Even before that film, she was very well known. She was a big draw at the time. Also, Frank Langella is an absolute legend. Look up his other work, he is a fantastic actor deserving of his recognition.

  • @timamherst-clark2699

    @timamherst-clark2699

    22 күн бұрын

    Wasn't he Skeletor? (Amongst many other roles.)

  • @uselessDM
    @uselessDM29 күн бұрын

    Remember when they tried to make Taylor Kitsch and Armie Hammer into big action stars? Oh, and Jai Courtney as well. They tried so hard with him.

  • @taste_is_sweet

    @taste_is_sweet

    17 күн бұрын

    Armie Hammer was fantastic in Man From U.N.C.L.E, though.

  • @RandomTrinidadian
    @RandomTrinidadianАй бұрын

    Motal Engines was a movie i could not take seriously at all. Cities hunting others cities to eat them for resources, by wasting more resources to catch them. I mean really?

  • @Boglinas

    @Boglinas

    26 күн бұрын

    Why are people against the idea of those cities? :D Its based of a kids book series and yes - those stupid cities are dying because they are running out of ways to survive. Its the same as question why people in zombie movies are unable to reform a decent society. Not the best example but some movie ideas should be to analyzed.

  • @OrlandoFloyd-gh2lq

    @OrlandoFloyd-gh2lq

    11 күн бұрын

    In the books it makes sense

  • @HerrDeutschBlood
    @HerrDeutschBlood5 ай бұрын

    My problem with The Lone Ranger was that Tonto was pretty much the main focus of the movie and the lone ranger just took a back seat to him, which I found off putting seeing that the title suggests that we would see more of the Lone Ranger. If they really wanted people to know that the movie would be centered around Depp’s character, it probably should have been called “Lone Ranger: The Ballad of Tonto” or something.

  • @jasonblalock4429

    @jasonblalock4429

    Ай бұрын

    Not to mention how blatantly they tried to turn Tonto into Jack Sparrow Mk II. The entire reasoning behind the movie seemed to have been "Gore Verbinski + Depp Being Weird == $$$$" because it was really atrocious casting from any other POV.

  • @frommatorav1

    @frommatorav1

    7 күн бұрын

    After seeing this video, an even more accurate title, "Lone Ranger: Being Tonto's Bitch" I was a fan of Lone Ranger as a little kid but as a 35 year old man, the previews did nothing to make me want to see it. I also didn't like Tonto being played by Johnny Depp. Add the over 2 and a half hour runtime and it was a hard pass. I missed it at the theaters and still haven't seen it. This review only validates that choice.

  • @JOSH-lw2jv
    @JOSH-lw2jv5 ай бұрын

    Carolco Pictures going bankrupt because of *"Cutthroat Island"* also caused a $90 million movie that Sylvester Stallone was to star in get canned. That film was called *"ISOBAR",* which was to be directed by Roland Emmerich (after the 1st director Ridley Scott had left the project) and the monster FXs were to be done by Oscar-winning guru Rick Baker (after another FX legend H.R. Giger left the project). In that film, Stallone was to play a reluctant hero who goes up against a genetically-engineered monster plant with tentacles that got loose in a underground 5-story subway train en route from Los Angeles to Tokyo. Alongside Stallone, the cast includes Kim Basinger, Jim Belushi, screen legend Walter Matthau, and Michael Jeter.

  • @Suspect_Green

    @Suspect_Green

    5 ай бұрын

    Whoa! That's very interesting! Honestly, might make a video one day talking about cancelled projects. We on earth are in desperate need of that alternate reality tv boxset thing from Rick and Morty.

  • @KillFriskey

    @KillFriskey

    5 ай бұрын

    For the record, that was before Cutthroat that this was being pitched. Carolco and Stallone have a freakin' history of cancelled projects. You mentioned ISOBAR, but he was also attached to do a comedy about feuding neighbors where it would have been Stallone vs. John Candy and written AND directed by John Hughes and was going to begin production after he was done Curly Sue, but it never got off the ground. And then...there's GALE FORCE. described in the screenplay as "Die Hard in a hurricane" where Stallone played "an ex-Navy SEAL who has to fight against a group of modern pirates who attack a coastal town during a large, catastrophic hurricane". That went through many rewrites and was eventually bought by Carolco with Renny Harlin to direct, but he wanted creative control and in the long run, realizing that the budget was going to be way too high to figure out how to do some of the sequences, canned it 2 weeks before production started. It's okay though, because Stallone, Harlin, and crew moved on to another project. A little movie called CLIFFHANGER...which somehow was DOUBLE the budget of Gale Force, but according to sources, Tri-Star (among other distributors) was able to help with funding, which meant that Carolco didn't get much of the net profit, even though the movie was a smash ($255M worldwide). Yeah, no wonder they went out of business.

  • @JOSH-lw2jv

    @JOSH-lw2jv

    5 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@KillFriskey Stallone must've like the *"Gale Force"* story that it almost became *"RAMBO 4",* before we got the final version in 2008. In that story, John J. Rambo was to return to his home town and meets his brother who is Sheriff, but he gets kicked out due to his involvement in Vietnam and the first 3 films. But then he comes back in order to save his brother from escaping criminals he put in jail who plan to kill him. Also, this was to take place during a big hurricane.

  • @zmr3352

    @zmr3352

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Suspect_Green There's a lot of interesting cancelled projects to talk about. The channel, Supervoid Cinema, talks about a lot of cancelled projects.

  • @brenyatta

    @brenyatta

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Suspect_GreenYou could fill that entire video with JUST recent Warner Bros movies, if you wanted to 😅

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface81055 ай бұрын

    Just gonna say it, The 13th Warrior is a legit good movie. It's got solid acting, some seriously tense scenes and it's pretty awesome to watch. Especially love the scene where the vikings start out speaking more Nordic language which Ackmad can't understand, yet slowly as he starts to understand it, English is added in up until they are speaking English, showing he finally understands the language. It's simple but brillaint.

  • @Arphemius

    @Arphemius

    5 ай бұрын

    It's a fun scene, but it really makes no sense at all. You can't just learn a language in one evening by just watching people speak, you would have no frame of reference to what they're even saying. 13th Warrior is great though.

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105

    @thefanwithoutaface8105

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Arphemius I believe the implication is that he does it gradually, over a long period of time as obviously traveling from where they were to where they were going took a while.

  • @jsurovy

    @jsurovy

    4 ай бұрын

    Agreed, 13th Warrior is a really good movie.

  • @lachazaroony

    @lachazaroony

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ArphemiusThey show it changing from day to night, weather changes etc. Its never implied he learns it overnight.

  • @bobthegrinch

    @bobthegrinch

    4 ай бұрын

    I've always liked the 13th Warrior.

  • @bpe-music
    @bpe-musicАй бұрын

    The 13th Warrior still ruled, even though it was meddled heavily. It would be cool if we ever got a proper John McTiernan's directors cut of it (preferably with Jerry Goldsmith's awesome score fitted in), but this is sadly a pipe dream...

  • @goukeban6197

    @goukeban6197

    5 күн бұрын

    We were so fucking spoiled in the 90s that movies that were critically panned back then would be considered refreshing gems now.

  • @jbwuzhere6819
    @jbwuzhere681927 күн бұрын

    The 13th Warrior is an excellent adventure with slight horror overtones. Actually, THAT'S why there are so many lowly lit scenes in the movie, to maintain the advantage created by mystery (the lack of knowledge breeds fear). Banderas' character, despite being an educated man, also falls prey to the simple fear of the unknown. The film moves along quite well once the essential parties are all assembled. An underrated action saga.

  • @RonJohn63

    @RonJohn63

    6 күн бұрын

    Films are _VISUAL MEDIA._ Visual media requires light, so we can see it.

  • @jbwuzhere6819

    @jbwuzhere6819

    6 күн бұрын

    @@RonJohn63 profound

  • @NewSuperAvenger
    @NewSuperAvenger29 күн бұрын

    Two things to mention: 1. 13th Warrior was originally called Eaters of the Dead and was scenes were reshot by Michael Crichton himself. 2. John Carter was originally called John Carter of Mars.

  • @oobrocks
    @oobrocks26 күн бұрын

    I’ve read there’s tons of people that will agree with my opinion: John Carter is way above average (just short of great imo). The cast is wonderful, the story is good and we get to c where the money was spent. Unlike most critics I c a different main problem; this film’ s budget was simply way too high. The movie "John Carter," released in 2012, had an estimated production budget of around $250 million. Despite the significant investment, the film underperformed at the box office. It brought in approximately $284 million worldwide, which includes both domestic and international gross revenues. However, due to the high production and marketing costs, "John Carter" is considered a financial disappointment

  • @3DSage
    @3DSage28 күн бұрын

    5:06 Ace Ventura, Goldeneye, Heat, Casino, Jumanji, and Toy Story! Holy cow what a crazy good year for movies!

  • @guarantweed

    @guarantweed

    21 күн бұрын

    And they wonder why movies don't make money anymore. It's not just streaming, if they put out movies like then today, people would go see them.

  • @JurassicLion2049
    @JurassicLion20495 ай бұрын

    Return of the King aka The Unusual Suspect. Welcome back man. Youve always been my favorite guy on KZread.

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface81055 ай бұрын

    0:55 Update this to include Dial of Destiny and The Marvels,

  • @Suspect_Green

    @Suspect_Green

    5 ай бұрын

    Haha, yeah; 2023 was full of bombs. Made this a bit too early!

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105

    @thefanwithoutaface8105

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Suspect_Green Yup, 2023 had more bombs than WWII. Hell the Marvels didn't even make back it's production budget, which when you factor marketing and everything else, means the movie likely lost Disney $300 + Million.

  • @Egurius3

    @Egurius3

    5 ай бұрын

    In 2023 there was also: The Flash, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, Shazam: Fury of the Gods. Overall superhero films flopped last year with the exception of Across the Spider-Verse. Mission Impossible 7 also flopped, which surprised me.

  • @peterfrank3365

    @peterfrank3365

    9 күн бұрын

    ​@@Egurius3 'Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3' was probably the only $200+ million budgeted movie that was successful in 2023.

  • @SigEpBlue
    @SigEpBlue4 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised Heaven's Gate didn't even make the list. That's the Michael Cimino project that cost United Artists ~$40 million in 1980, which is ~$125 million in 2020.

  • @Briaaanz

    @Briaaanz

    23 күн бұрын

    But he would have to see it to review it and i think it's impossible to actually do that and stay awake the entire time

  • @Derpy1969

    @Derpy1969

    22 күн бұрын

    That’s the challenge!

  • @frozen2golden
    @frozen2golden21 күн бұрын

    You don't see Geena Davis as an action star?! Have you not seen Long Kiss Goodnight?! She's the original Milla Jovovich and Angelina Jolie

  • @Cmatsoukis
    @Cmatsoukis26 күн бұрын

    13th warrior is a more realistic telling of Beowulf

  • @rnickolasjones
    @rnickolasjones27 күн бұрын

    And yet...John Carter still feels like a better movie than what's getting spit out from Disney in '23 and '24. Ugh. Sad.

  • @JoshtheBackwoodsStoryteller
    @JoshtheBackwoodsStoryteller8 күн бұрын

    I don't think the Lone Ranger was that bad. It's like, come on people; it's a Western movie! What did you expect going in? Same thing can be said about Cowboys and Aliens.

  • @blupunk01
    @blupunk0127 күн бұрын

    Look, I know I'm probably considerably older than the average viewer of this video, but it's a little disturbing to see Matthew Modine the star of of one of the greatest war films of all time Full Metal Jacket reduced to "that guy you might remember from Stranger Things."

  • @quercusquercus532

    @quercusquercus532

    16 күн бұрын

    If I were placing bets, I would've guessed the Batman one. But then, I always thought the star of Full Metal Jacket was R. Lee Ermey.

  • @System_Sega
    @System_Sega29 күн бұрын

    4:03 Matthew Modine from Stranger Things? I would of gone with Full Metal Jacket Myself.

  • @beejls

    @beejls

    29 күн бұрын

    Play younger people are more likely to know stranger things.

  • @MrGadfly772
    @MrGadfly7724 ай бұрын

    I notice that Disney was responsible for some pretty big failures.

  • @alexc6784

    @alexc6784

    29 күн бұрын

    Still is

  • @derworfnet
    @derworfnet5 ай бұрын

    I watched all of these movies except _The Lone Ranger_ and... I enjoyed the hell out of _John Carter,_ had a good time with _Cutthroat Island_ (even though it is pretty clunky), LOVED _The 13th Warrior_ (I'd go so far as to consider it a hidden gem)... and _Mortal Engines_ was fine - it was the Visuals and the Worldbuilding (of an admittedly batshit insane world) that did it for me. There is one constant through these films though: The high quality of their musical Scores. _13th Warrior_ (by Jerry Goldsmith), _John Carter_ (Michael Giacchino) and *especially* _Cutthroat Island_ (John Debney) are *amazing.*

  • @geraldmartin7703

    @geraldmartin7703

    Ай бұрын

    One of my favorite scores is Goldsmith's for "Supergirl", a lesser bomb.

  • @TheOdsd1977
    @TheOdsd1977Ай бұрын

    Isn't "A Wrinkle in Time" around here? She thought she had lost at least 100 million... I'm surprised it's not like that.

  • @goukeban6197
    @goukeban61975 күн бұрын

    I haven't watched Cutthroat Island since I was a teen, but I remember it being a pretty fun swashbucking adventure, so it perplexes me that it flopped so hard.

  • @Kruhn
    @Kruhn27 күн бұрын

    The William Tell Overture was associated with The Lone Ranger for a long time, so using it in the Disney movie is a callback or fan service. There is also a 1980s movie The Legend of the Lone Ranger. That one was also a flop, making a little over $12 million on a budget of $18 million.

  • @bradentwidwell7955
    @bradentwidwell79552 ай бұрын

    You do know that Renny Harlin also did Prison, Nightmare On Elm Street 4 and Deep Blue Sea. Just thought I'd help you out in that area. He's not that too terrible of a director he's had admittedly bumps in his road

  • @LargeMick23
    @LargeMick234 ай бұрын

    "How did Geena Davis get cast in an action movie... oh she was married to the director!" Yeah, who she met on the set of "The Long Kiss Goodnight" one of the best action movies of the 90's. To just say she was knobbing the director is reductive. They'd made a very good movie together and wanted to make another.

  • @georgeabrahams4076

    @georgeabrahams4076

    Ай бұрын

    The Long Kiss Goodnight was made AFTER Cutthroat Island. He the film didn't perform as well, since Davis and Harlin's star power was hurt by that film. Shane Black literally blame it on them

  • @BrahemeDays-g5r

    @BrahemeDays-g5r

    29 күн бұрын

    Nah, she was banging the director. If she wasn't giving it up I bet he woulda cast a younger baby who would.

  • @PowerfulLeadahYas-Yas

    @PowerfulLeadahYas-Yas

    26 күн бұрын

    George is correct. Reny and Geena independently financed Long Kiss Goodnight because Cutthroat Island bombed so hard they couldn't find work.

  • @randomstranger3671
    @randomstranger36715 ай бұрын

    This was one of my favorite videos from you, hope this re-upload get you great views

  • @diogogomes3238
    @diogogomes3238Ай бұрын

    Cutthroat Island and the 13th warrior are both fucking awesome, and its sad they dont make movies like that anymore. Fun action / adventure movies. 90s were full of them

  • @davidsavage5630
    @davidsavage563024 күн бұрын

    John Carter, The Lone Ranger and Mortal Engines are all actually pretty great. Flop doesn't = bad. Not always..

  • @blupunk01
    @blupunk0127 күн бұрын

    One other thing, you might want to look up actual box office results. The Princess Bride was not a film seen in the theater by a whole lot of "boys" or anybody else for that matter. While it didn't lose a ton of money like the movies in this video, it was generally considered a box office disappointment only earning $30.9 million against a $16 million budget (as a rule of thumb, once you factor in promotion and distribution costs, a movie needs to earn three times its base production cost to really be financially successful). It only became widely popular later on home video and cable and is not a good example of a film that got people to the theater.

  • @briansmith2875
    @briansmith28755 ай бұрын

    Great stuff as always. Excited for more movie reviews!

  • @bocagoodtimes1460
    @bocagoodtimes146027 күн бұрын

    Damn….13th Warrior was just fine……how could it have lost that much money…….what did they spend it on?

  • @thisithis
    @thisithis28 күн бұрын

    The thing with Gina Davis in Cutthroat Island is that she and the Director did a previous film with Samuel L Jackson that made money, The Long Kiss Good Night.

  • @KeyDash753

    @KeyDash753

    27 күн бұрын

    The Long Kiss Goodnight was released a year after Cutthroat Island. And it's awesome, leaves no doubt Geena Davis can play an action star. Shane Black script, so that helped too.

  • @the_mightylicker1944
    @the_mightylicker19445 ай бұрын

    I remember watching this when it came out but happily watch it again, your content really enjoyable :)

  • @jamesreese7111
    @jamesreese71114 ай бұрын

    Sadly, these movies are better than 95% of the movies Hollywood has made in the last 8 years, but I like a lot of movies that I know are bad. Different strokes for different folks Lol. Reny Harlin also directed Gina Davis in The long kiss goodnight. It's a really good spy thriller with Samuel L. Jackson. He said in an interview that the character Mitch from long kiss is the favorite role he's ever played and the interview was on the Tonight show with Jimmy Fallon 5 yrs ago. It's one of my favorite Christmas movies. The lone Rangers biggest problem was it treated Tonto as the main character and they got criticized for Johnny Depp playing a Native American. Great video!

  • @padraigdon1657
    @padraigdon16575 ай бұрын

    Nice Your back Ross since your my favourite KZreadr! May I suggest for future video like TV adaptations that are faithful or better like Percy Jackson, The Last of us, Reacher & maybe upcoming ATLA Netflix series that could be good? :)

  • @vicmwaf
    @vicmwaf27 күн бұрын

    Mortal Engines should have been an animation not a live action

  • @josephnash2081
    @josephnash20814 ай бұрын

    A Princess of Mars was published in 1912 and not 1917.

  • @efrenrivera9716
    @efrenrivera971615 күн бұрын

    John Carter is the most underrated movie ever

  • @jsurovy
    @jsurovy4 ай бұрын

    I think John Carter (of Mars) is a really great movie. It suffers from adaptation. I highly recommend it for people who haven't seen it.

  • @markpage9886
    @markpage98864 күн бұрын

    John Carter was actually a direct inspiration for Superman. Siegel and Shuster made Earth the primitive backwater with the lighter gravity, instead of Mars. You hit the nail on the head when you pointed out that Carter's rip-offs are better known that the source material (See Elric vs The Witcher), making Carter appear dated and shopworn.

  • @nopewmopan
    @nopewmopan26 күн бұрын

    13th Warrior is Beowulf. Original epic. Given a Michael Crichton treatment.

  • @superblakefilms
    @superblakefilms5 ай бұрын

    Loving the new format! Keep it up!!!

  • @Suspect_Green

    @Suspect_Green

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Appreciate it!

  • @rolig9303
    @rolig93035 ай бұрын

    I welcome a good reupload, keep em comin i like rewatchin!

  • @Power5
    @Power57 күн бұрын

    John Carter was a very good movie in my opinion. It was a typical unlikely hero battles the big bad plot but enjoyable.

  • @StickNik
    @StickNik5 ай бұрын

    2:35 - I hear good things about Long Kiss Goodnight.

  • @spencerbookman2523

    @spencerbookman2523

    Ай бұрын

    It's Renny Harlin's best movie, by far, and about the only one that's worth watching, IMHO.

  • @seanrosenau2088
    @seanrosenau208825 күн бұрын

    How did Gena Davis end up as the lead in an action film? Probably because she's 6 foot 2. She's a freaking amazon.

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn636 күн бұрын

    0:40 I haven't. 0:45 There's _always_ someone smarter than you.

  • @airspeedmph
    @airspeedmph11 күн бұрын

    I really liked The 13th Warrior, Mortal machines got me with its stunning steampunk setting, and John Carter I've been told so many times that is awful that in the end I actually enjoyed it a lot.

  • @Yinzermakesvids
    @Yinzermakesvids6 күн бұрын

    Cut throat island was amazing

  • @donavonzerbest9530
    @donavonzerbest95304 ай бұрын

    Im so glad you made the Nick Valentine joke, that was my first thought

  • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
    @SuperCosmicMutantSquidАй бұрын

    Cuthroat Island isn't bad to me but it's one of those movies where you can tell somethign isn't right about it and you can't really explain why. It FEELS like a late 80s/early 90s movie with how it doesn't care to be realistic and eembraces the whimsy of it but it honestly feels IMCOMPLETE. I like Gina Davis but I think the problem was it didn't have the sort of timed feeling as Pirate of the Caribean had in that the characters DID feel like they came from that time period and it played well to the movie's tone and setting. Cutthroat Island felt too stagey, like the settings were there but most of the actors still acted like they were from California in the 90s coming off a lunch break from a highend sandwhich shop. It had no spice despite having an interesting story. And on John Carter, there is a bit more detail on the name changes. For the Princess thing, it wasn't just a matter of boys not wanting to see it, Disney thought that adding Princess would result in people feeling bait and swtiched as they would EXPECT a Disney Princess film but instead get a sci-fi movie instead that is nothing like the brand they were building up with the Princesses. And on Mars, it was actually due to the failure of 'Mars Needs Moms' a year prior to John Carter. Disney was worried that people seeeing Mars in the title would make them think it was a sequel to that train wreck or that no movie with 'Mars' could ever work (Remember 'Mission to Mars'). Frankly, even with the niche audience it had, Disney could have banked in on this being another Edgar Rice Burroughs book given that Tarzan was actually GROWING in popularity AFTER the movie had hit home video and the series was still in syndication. If they made it more clear they were adapting more Edgar Rice Burroughs work, they could have had something considering that while people know Tarzan, dipping their toes in his other works is worth it. Hell, I want to get into them given just how much there is and his other stories deserve some spotlight even with how popular Tarzan is as a whole.

  • @zachpottinger1842
    @zachpottinger18425 ай бұрын

    Suicide Squad 2 was really good, everyone practically loved it a lot more than the first, yet for some damn reason it didn’t get its money back, what the hell?!

  • @paultapner2769

    @paultapner2769

    3 ай бұрын

    Cinemas still under covid restrictions at the time, so probably didn't help. I don't think cinema has ever fully recovered and probably never will. My local multiplex opened at 10am every weekday beforehand. Now it's usually 12. And only earlier if there's a blockbuster out.

  • @dominicarroyo6269

    @dominicarroyo6269

    29 күн бұрын

    ​@@paultapner2769they could but they would have to do a lot to compete with streaming and offer up a better experience first by starting with prices but honestly I don't see them doing it on their own. Only way I see any of them sticking around is if studios start buying them up which could be happening

  • @PowerfulLeadahYas-Yas

    @PowerfulLeadahYas-Yas

    26 күн бұрын

    Covid + same day streaming on HBO Max + bad memories of the first film + bad marketing + R rating + Harley Quinn focus after Birds of Prey bombed + quite frankly it was too clever for a lot of people.

  • @AmityvilleFan
    @AmityvilleFanАй бұрын

    13th Warrior is good for a mid-budget movie. That it cost that massive of a budget made me laugh when I heared it the first time, it was that shocking.

  • @OrgaNik_Music
    @OrgaNik_Music27 күн бұрын

    What's interesting is that none of these bombs are outright terrible, or even bad as such.

  • @pkvanderzee6226
    @pkvanderzee6226Ай бұрын

    Mortal engines grossed 83.7 million against a budget of 100 million..They did not loose a 100 million but still this has to hurt financiely

  • @kaibricturner8836

    @kaibricturner8836

    Ай бұрын

    Absolutely! But even if they made 100 million at the box office it still wouldn’t be enough to fund any future projects. They’d just make back their own budget and not a huge profit. The best way is make a high quality film with a fair and steady budget and watch it grow after its release. That way if it fails then the backlash won’t be as severe.

  • @alexc6784

    @alexc6784

    29 күн бұрын

    Production budget is only half of total budget and gross is double net so yeah, it's easily lost 100M

  • @PictureHouseCinema
    @PictureHouseCinema9 күн бұрын

    Cutthroat island was good enough, just came at the wrong time. We have a 35mm print in our archive. The Lone Ranger was also fun. When the train thing kicks off it's brilliant.

  • @JuliusBriggs
    @JuliusBriggs5 ай бұрын

    btw what do you do to make your greenscreen look sooo crisp it's very well done I must say

  • @Suspect_Green

    @Suspect_Green

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Honestly, I feel I need improvement on the lighting (gonna work on this when I make the move to a garage which I'm renovating atm). But to remove the green, I use tools in After Effects like keylight, key cleaner and advanced spill suppressor. Sometimes I also use the refine soft matte tool. Sorry, if you don't use AE, that'll make no sense. But it's how I do it :)

  • @JuliusBriggs

    @JuliusBriggs

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Suspect_Green As I thought proper lighting is a big aspect AE certainly does the trick so maybe I should think about getting that down the line Thx mate

  • @pop-culturecinephile8144
    @pop-culturecinephile81445 ай бұрын

    Can you talk about bad movies that were surprisingly successful? And include that some sequels were canceled but some kept coming in. An example of the sequels being canceled was the last Airbender movie.

  • @hapticflapjack
    @hapticflapjack2 күн бұрын

    Mortal Engines is a spectacularly good series of young adult / fantasy books - it doesn't quite work on screen but some of that spirit of the books is there.

  • @alfredjagels7518
    @alfredjagels75183 күн бұрын

    If you see The Long Kiss Goodnight, you’d consider Geena Davis an action star.

  • @bankjibbernow
    @bankjibbernow8 күн бұрын

    Geena Davis was pretty huge back then after “Thelma and Louise”…

  • @CommanderCronus
    @CommanderCronus10 күн бұрын

    I enjoyed both Cutthroat Island and John Carter. 13th Warrior could've been great, but they blew it big time.

  • @RolandDeschain1
    @RolandDeschain115 күн бұрын

    CRUSADES is one of the greatest unproduced screenplays ever. It would be much easier to make it today. Back then Verhoeven was set to build a big chunk of ancient Jerusalem for real, and the reported budget was around $140 million. Not to mention it was extremely violent and had many scenes of raype. In fact, from what I recall the main personality trait of the villain was that each time the story goes back to him he's ravaging some poor lass. That'd be the first thing taken out of the script if it were attempted today. And, quite frankly, the film would be better for its removal.

  • @dynaman7329
    @dynaman73295 ай бұрын

    Could you do a video on early crossover films?

  • @BH-98
    @BH-985 ай бұрын

    Considering how many bombs their were last year I'd be interested in a sequel to this video covering films like the flash, dial of destiny, the marvels, etc.

  • @Suspect_Green

    @Suspect_Green

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah, originally I actually had more films included in the script (talking about films like Waterworld, Mars Needs Moms and Battleship). Might do a sequel to this if it does well here :)

  • @doro626
    @doro6268 күн бұрын

    My friend, his wife and I rented 13th Warrior. They were all excited because it was based on the Grendel poem or something. I was bored to tears. The best part was when we got to teh finale, the DVD was scratched so bad the movie stopped playing. I was able to buff it out with toothpaste and save the day ( they saw enough of the ending to feel satisfied). I only remember one scene from that entire movie.

  • @Derpy1969
    @Derpy196922 күн бұрын

    “I’ve been swimming in raw sewage. I love it.” 4:47

  • @Maxwel_Rodrigues
    @Maxwel_RodriguesАй бұрын

    18:30 Gore Verbinski directing a bloathed 2h30m movie with a average script? That's his filmography in a nutshell

  • @jamesanthony8438
    @jamesanthony84388 күн бұрын

    I really enjoyed "Cutthroat Island" but always hated the Mid-Western American accents. Beautiful sets, locations and costumes with a wonderful score... that let us down because no one knew how to do accents.

  • @intergalactic92
    @intergalactic925 ай бұрын

    I said it the previous time you uploaded this, but I’ll say it again: I liked Mortal Engines. I do get why it bombed. Frankly there was no effort made in marketing it, at all, that and the book it’s adapting is fairly obscure. And it is fairly generic and confused about the setting.

  • @geraldmartin7703

    @geraldmartin7703

    Ай бұрын

    "Mortal Engines" suggests it's about robots.

  • @nilus2k
    @nilus2k4 ай бұрын

    Wasn’t there a 70s Lone Ranger that was a comedy? Or am I confusing that with Zorro

  • @KasumiKenshirou

    @KasumiKenshirou

    3 ай бұрын

    I haven't seen either of these, but there was an earlier Lone Ranger adaptation that flopped, and something called Zorro: The Gay Blade, which I assume was a comedy. That Lone Ranger movie got a lot of bad PR when the studio told the original TV Lone Ranger that he could no longer wear his Lone Ranger mask at public appearances. There was an episode of Night Court that had a similar scenario.

  • @171QA
    @171QA5 ай бұрын

    Great video.

  • @Suspect_Green

    @Suspect_Green

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @scottjackson1420
    @scottjackson14205 күн бұрын

    13th Warrior? My God, I saw that as a new release in the theater! I forgot it existed!

  • @papalaz4444244
    @papalaz444424429 күн бұрын

    John Carter is a fantastic film.

  • @CSXIV
    @CSXIV23 күн бұрын

    I saw "The Thirteenth Warrior" in the theater and it was decent. Someone else mentioned this, but the story was intended as a realistic Beowulf, with the tribe being Grendel. It seemed like Michael Critchton was trying to do to Beowulf what Mary Renault did with Thesius in "The King Must Die." And I bring that up because, before seeing this movie, I had been assigned to read "The King Must Die" and immediately recognized what they were trying to do.

  • @historygirl6732
    @historygirl67326 күн бұрын

    I agree with your sentiments on Mortal Engines and how they bungled it by turning it into basically Star Wars by the end. The source material written by Philip Reeves is leagues better, to the point where it's kind of insulting to see how much the movie mangled the characters, plot, and themes.

  • @PowerfulLeadahYas-Yas
    @PowerfulLeadahYas-Yas26 күн бұрын

    Nice video but there have been at least 5 movies in the past 18 months that have lost > 200m. The Marvels, Dial of Destiny, The Flash, Lightyear, Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning, Shazam 2 to name a few.

  • @okiraanon832
    @okiraanon8326 күн бұрын

    I love Cutthroat Island.. huge fun. Nothing more. 🙂

  • @tammushican4823
    @tammushican48235 ай бұрын

    The problem with the mortal engines film is that the book is ass, so the film should have never been made (or should have been changed massively)

  • @mrsrdan
    @mrsrdan23 күн бұрын

    Geena Davis is an athlete that almost went to the olympics. I definitely can see her as an action star.

  • @Autotrope
    @Autotrope5 ай бұрын

    Hey I used to watch your videos years ago but i think it was a different channel name. You were really good.

  • @Suspect_Green

    @Suspect_Green

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I had to move channel recently as KZread demonetized it. Had a long hiatus, but I'm back making reviews; hope you stick around! :)

  • @scottjackson1420
    @scottjackson14205 күн бұрын

    Gina Davis as an action hero is FAR from farfetched. You should watch The Long Kiss Goodnight from 1996, starring Geena and Samuel L. Jackson. Very entertaining.

  • @rottensquid
    @rottensquid28 күн бұрын

    I hate to pile onto any movie that's already gone down in history as an epic fail, but I think you make a good point that there's a solid reason all these films bombed. John Carter is a prime example. Just the choice of title tells you everything wrong with it. They were so busy thinking about what wouldn't appeal to audiences, it's like they never really considered what would. So the film is a grab-bag of familiar tropes, cut and pasted from better films. Instead of stitching them together into a real story, they thought they would stand well enough on their own, in the same way they thought the grandiose effects and action set-pieces would stand on their own. The irony of John Carter, and I'd say all of these films, is that what's lacking doesn't cost money. In fact, the films themselves demonstrate that no amount of money makes up for what they lack. John Carter, ultimately, is an adventure without characters. John Carter himself is never anything more than a vague backstory stuck on a name. There's no reason that THIS story is happening to THIS character. If you watch, say, Die Hard, the whole point of the movie is that it's happening to a man who's lost his sense of purpose, feeling like he has no role in his marriage or his life. The movie answers his question, "If I'm not the breadwinner in my marriage, who am I?" So who is John Carter, and what question does his life pose at the beginning of the story? We don't know. We get know John McClane incredibly well within the first 10 minutes, before the first shot is fired in the film. John Carter is just some guy the events of the film are happening to. We know he was a soldier in the civil war. We know his wife and child have died, so he has no ties to Earth. But none of that actually has bearing on the adventure, beyond explaining why he can fight, and, I guess, why he's single. Now, if John Carter had begun the film as an ex-confederate soldier whose family were killed in the chaos of war, and he later realized he'd been fighting for the wrong side, we'd have had a character. We'd have someone who'd lost everything defending a cause he now realizes was fundamentally evil. Now, his adventure on Mars would have been a redemption story. He'd have skin in the game, a reason to stand against tyranny, and fight for the freedom of people who were being enslaved. He'd feel unworthy to love, until he earned some new sense of worthiness. That's a character arc. And John Carter desperately needed one. All the klutzy story pacing, weightless stakes, and pointless plot twists would have been fixed by the simple edition of that one thing. I don't understand why such a talented film director as Andrew Stanton didn't notice his protagonist had no arc, or even personality. But whenever I heard him claim that the film follows the book faithfully, my takeaway was that he still saw A Princess of Mars through the misty lens of childhood nostalgia. Even Lord of the Rings needed a few tweaks to make it work as a film trilogy. I haven't read Princess of Mars, but I can't imagine it so perfect that any change from the source would diminish it. And I understand that the meta-self-insert of Edgar Rice Burroughs was an invention of the film. Which baffles me, because it adds nothing but dead weight to an already ponderous film. So if it could insert that, why not a backstory that makes the protagonist, ya know, a character? I can't imagine what drives a team of highly skilled professional filmmakers to assemble such profoundly mediocre work, but this list makes it clear that it's a chronic problem in the business. As you point out again and again, every one of these films failed at the script stage, before casting, before a single frame has been shot. It reminds me of a story about Frank Capra doing an interview for Life magazine, going on and on about the "Capra Touch," never once mentioning the screenwriters whose work he built his career on. After the interview was published, Robert Riskin marched into Capra's office with a stack of blank pages bound up like a screenplay, and dropped it on his desk. "Here, put your f*cking Capra Touch on that."

  • @anthonystrocks247
    @anthonystrocks247Ай бұрын

    Fantastic video!

  • @geraldohanna772
    @geraldohanna77211 күн бұрын

    Great Video, Sir

  • @HolySilverStrike
    @HolySilverStrike5 ай бұрын

    I liked the 13th warrior. Good alright show.

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield5 ай бұрын

    Happy to revisit this one 👍

  • @madmark1957
    @madmark19574 күн бұрын

    The year after Cutthroat Island Geena Davis starred in the action movie The Long Kiss Goodnight with Samuel L Jackson. The 13th Warrior was simply Beowulf reworked.

  • @ShootingStar1313
    @ShootingStar131324 күн бұрын

    Weird, I remember seeing each of these movies and didn't think of any as terrible. More like, they came out at a bad time, when competition was stiff. "Truth is... the game was rigged from the start." 💸

  • @benjamincopelin3795
    @benjamincopelin37955 ай бұрын

    I would love to see him revisit the topic of video game movies and talk about the most successful ones and why they resonated with people, particularly with fans.

  • @BrandonCroker
    @BrandonCroker5 ай бұрын

    Truly a cinematic blast! Literally I guess.

  • @sicaferal
    @sicaferalАй бұрын

    many thnx bud! new sub!

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