Genius concept for a video. Great work man!

@raveenkovil9136

Жыл бұрын

Love your video on the finals mvp

@FirstLast-nv7me

Жыл бұрын

jimmy

@GoatStormChaser

Жыл бұрын

Goat sees goat

@BenniDerLange

Жыл бұрын

Bro can u promote this man, he's under the radar rn

@willhooke

Жыл бұрын

Trap sax?... 🙂 ... Sad trombone ☹️

This video is perfect example of why I continue to say it’s extremely hard to compare players from each era

@jsgr5382

Жыл бұрын

It's not hard. This generation is the best , the next will be better and so on. It's like that in every sport for every era. Evolution doesn't stop. And yes having better equipment and having more knowledge of the sport is part of the evolution process. It's a factor we need to accept. Every era has better equipment then the previous. People's nostalgia and emotion take over and you have clowns that are convinced MJ's era was better then today because they're Insecure about their idol being the goat so they need to hype up an entire era. Basketball is the only sport that doesn't publicly admit it's far better now and it's probably the sport that has improved the most after hockey to which btw Wayne Gretzky said publicly he wouldn't even make today's NHL cause it's too big, fast and skilled. Imagine that.

@bradygagne6992

Жыл бұрын

@@jsgr5382 This generation is the most talented but you need to see the other side of that to understand why is it’s the most talented. It’s because of the environment and everything players have access to growing up in life and once they get to the league. Guys in the 60’s,70’s and 80’s had to work multiple jobs on low salary, wear converses, play without a three point line, have extremely limited knowledge to the extent of which we know medical info now. Basketball training wasn’t the same back then and the game was still relatively new so people were still understanding the game and trying to figure it out. Skill wise and strategy wise the game was still developing and not to mention the impact of technology for film and we’ll almost everything in world we live in today. And not to mention how many rules have changed throughout the years. My point is people never bring up perspective and context when comparing eras. Nobody was able to grow up the same way from back then compared to now. Born in 1975 and playing in the league 20 years later is way different than being born in 1995 and playing 20 years later. That’s why no matter how much people debate it will always extremely difficult to compare eras

@kiLLAGlock94

Жыл бұрын

@@bradygagne6992 sounds like you’re making a ton of excuses for previous eras

@bradygagne6992

Жыл бұрын

@@kiLLAGlock94 nope no excuses just reality. Our society has it way better today. The amount of access we have today because of the advancements in our life is awesome. Me trying to provide context of how it’s different isn’t excuses

@krokonuts9092

Жыл бұрын

Very well said

No wonder the 90’s had the most dominant bigs. Those rules really helped them when it came to one on one sequences

@rafikz77

Жыл бұрын

Exactly People forget ISO ball also favoured dominants bigs, not just perimeter players

@dobz746

Жыл бұрын

@@rafikz77 it also favored Jordan. I mean if MJ was on that 2004 team with the Lakers against the Pistons he would have the same result as Kobe for sure.

@infiniti37G

Жыл бұрын

They got easy shots in todays game. No defense and wide open shots

@nonamewillbegiven2826

Жыл бұрын

No it didnt you 1d1ot

@nonamewillbegiven2826

Жыл бұрын

@@rafikz77exactly nothing troll

Concerning the dribbling with one had in the 60s, the rules at the time said you had to keep your hand directly on top of the ball or it would be a carry. So doing a crossover was basically impossible.

@Sizdothyx

10 ай бұрын

I want them to bring that rule back so bad. I wanna see how many of today's players can "really" dribble instead of pretending that a scoop isn't a travel for 48 minutes of game time.

@karithema9ician657

9 ай бұрын

@@SizdothyxOr just Maybe the game had to Evolve… because that shit looked trash and actually. Look at how much players bodies move as they dribble now … it’s actually harder now. Those pivots and fast cuts are TAXING On the legs and stamina. Think about that 🤦🏾‍♂️😂😂

@Dss902

9 ай бұрын

​@@karithema9ician657now the game has devolved into and And1 mix tape and it's embarrassing. It was better back then. They actually had far more skill to dribble like that. Even if we go back to the early 2000s it was far better. Now players carry the ball with a straight up and down dribble. Luka carries the ball with every between the legs dribble basically. Takes far less skill and is cheating.

@ADAMSDIABEL

9 ай бұрын

But the author doesn't know that. He is describing whole eras watching bits and pieces of one game from each. And people here, call it genius.

@omnivorous65

9 ай бұрын

@@Sizdothyx No. That is a terrible idea. Ball handling became an art form and should remain that way. Maybe carrying should be called if the hand is right under the ball, also enforce the two steps after gathering the ball. I don't really want to watch games where players are awkwardly slapping the ball . Spin moves, cross overs, hesitation moves are gorgeous.

Horford in his first 7 years in the NBA took a grand total of 29 three-point shots, and the next 7 years took over 1300 three-point shots. That's mind blowing.

@Nickloss961

Жыл бұрын

Even crazier is that in 2015 he took only 36 threes and the next season he took 259 of them. To me that's one of the best examples of Stephen Curry effect

@0weladon761

Жыл бұрын

And he’s the goat

@kyleraines3698

Жыл бұрын

Also shows you that the good and great players of each era most of the time would have been able to adapt to the game, regardless of how drastic. Had Horford retired after those first 7 would anyone say that 510 threes made from him in his next 7 years was possible? No

@wmduav

Жыл бұрын

@@Nickloss961 facts, unfortunately the nba is shell of what it used to be.

@Lizards_Lounge

Жыл бұрын

That's nuts

Really love the Al Horford transformation. I’ve always argued players like Hakeem would’ve developed a 3-pt shot if he played in this era. Good players always find a way to adapt.

@deebofleebo6427

Жыл бұрын

Olajuwon had a 3p shot, he had range out to 22-23 ft! He was just much more valuable in the paint

@deebofleebo6427

Жыл бұрын

BTW, Horford made 500 more threes but missed 1,359 more threes, which is horse manure

@analcommando1124

Жыл бұрын

I think Ewing would have been a better player now because he had such a good shot.

@deebofleebo6427

Жыл бұрын

@@analcommando1124 Ewing was a freaking monster dude, he'll be great in any era and would keep teams including his own from jacking up threes

@NT-or9wh

Жыл бұрын

@@analcommando1124 Yes, Ewing definitely would’ve developed a 3pt shot. Shaq is the one big that I can’t see developing.

Wow! this was EPIC! I learned so much of the old school 90s games I watched as a kid. Most eloquent explanation of illegal defense ever. It all makes so much sense now.

@nonamewillbegiven2826

Жыл бұрын

Clueless

@sunumonidas9966

10 ай бұрын

90,s defence = cookie defence

@yungesjosef

10 ай бұрын

This video is proof the 90s fucking sucked

@nonamewillbegiven2826

10 ай бұрын

@shanese8471 i dont teach stupid, stupid

@nonamewillbegiven2826

10 ай бұрын

@@sunumonidas9966 spelled 2010s and 2020s wrong kid

I like to split the 1950s into two different eras. The latter half of decade saw more jumpshots and more layups. Especially as a new generation of players came into the league to phase out some inaugural players and as mentioned earlier about the shot clock's addition.

I really admire those men from the 50s and 60s. While they were not nearly as talented or athletic as the players just a decade or two later, they still discovered things that then became fundamental basketball. Naismith invented the game, but these men discovered it. I salute them.

@MovieGuy666

Жыл бұрын

fantastic no look passes.

@Huesos138

Жыл бұрын

@Rheumattica No, they were not. I am not a kid. And what does being bright have to do with anything?

@richardstephens5570

Жыл бұрын

@Rheumattica Today's athletes benefit from sports science. Improved nutrition, training methodology, and modern technology. Players in the 50's and 60's weren't paid much, so many worked second jobs in the offseason. Today's athletes train all year round to improve their skill and athleticism. Those old school players could have been just as athletic if they had access to the training techniques modern athletes have, but they didn't.

@richardstephens5570

Жыл бұрын

@Rheumattica You're a clown.

@JDG707

Жыл бұрын

@Rheumattica what a terrible and substance-less comeback

The wildest part of the first game was sometimes it looked like there was more than 10 guys on the court. It was pretty chaotic

@jlui21

Жыл бұрын

- chaotic? More like clogged. That's why they played against Plumbers and firemen.

@reidprbl8561

Жыл бұрын

@@jlui21 different eras man can’t blame them, half the techniques and moves haven’t even been invented yet

@TypicalBlakk

Жыл бұрын

@@jlui21 Idiotic Small Brain Comment

@seamus4A

Жыл бұрын

@@reidprbl8561 half? I’d say most

@lukocius

Жыл бұрын

Well, rules did not allow for crossovers or euro-step, offensive contact was an offensive foul... While in 2018 hacking a defender was a defensive foul :D

Implementing the ABA is prolly why the game changed so immensely from the 60 to the 70s. Would love a review of one of their games

@mattsell2361

11 ай бұрын

Agreed the 60s to the 70s was definitely the biggest change

The biggest challenge for NBA teams today is to figure out how to effectively defend the 3 point shot. When someone does we will see an upset like the 2004 finals.

@lumpy9964

9 ай бұрын

They should really just move the 3 pt line back a foot or two at this point. 3 pointers have oversaturated the game and made it so one dimensional, but you can't even blame the players for taking them when the risk reward factor is so in favor of taking the three point shot with how good shooting has gotten these days.

@Sushigh0st

9 ай бұрын

@@lumpy9964they should just make handchecking legal again, people are offensively talented enough to handle it nowadays imo

@MJIZZEL

7 ай бұрын

​@@lumpy9964exactly. Or eliminate the corner 3 and just have a straight solid line across the top of the arc.

@choirenthusiast4545

4 ай бұрын

It will eventually be solved. Players are getting bigger now and they’re also agile. It will become easier to switch which I think would be a 3-ball killer.

@andreunas4584

4 ай бұрын

that’s literally the beauty of todays game, offense has gotten so deep and players so versatile, that defenses will have to weigh out what shots they’re willing to live with. if im a top defensive team with a league average offensive rating, kinda like the lakers then im really just trying to find the open three. or actions that free up the post luring in the defensive help and kicking it out. and vice versa so on and so forth. these variables didn’t exist a couple decades ago and everything evolves. me personally it’s a joy to watch the modern game.

Those Jordan and Malone fadeaways are a thing of beauty.

@futurehofer1564

Жыл бұрын

Malone's were kinda ugly, looks like he had like a hitch on his jumper MJ was clean as hell

@1roundleft821

Жыл бұрын

@@futurehofer1564 I like the way he kicks his feet out and quickly pops the fader out of a face up. That was his bread and butter. May not be everyone's cup of tea, but that fadeaway is truly a Malone signature. You won't see anyone else shoot like that.

@1roundleft821

Жыл бұрын

@@futurehofer1564 also like how far he'd lean back on his fadeaways. Like he was reclining in the air 😅 Watch this video to see more of his low post fades/turnarounds. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZJmYo9iMfKebhZs.html

@TheFullBlack1

Жыл бұрын

Nothing as clean as Dirks fade 🥶

@likeatree-ei8it

Жыл бұрын

Keep going back. Wilts was unguardable.

People forget just how good, Bill Walton really was. Dude was just different.

@imneveruploadinghere7180

Жыл бұрын

Shame his son was nowhere near as good

@jsgr5382

Жыл бұрын

He was so overrated. NBA merger proved this

@KnoxWheelerJr

Жыл бұрын

@@jsgr5382 he won his title after the merger

@jsgr5382

Жыл бұрын

@@KnoxWheelerJr He never avg 20 points in a season. Was always hurt. His stats dipped a bit after the merger and his injuries. Overrated

@KnoxWheelerJr

Жыл бұрын

@@jsgr5382 his stats dipped after he started getting injured. Saying he's overrated as if he's someone who's talked about regularly among the greatest players ever, like wilt chamberlain for instance

18:51 John Stockton was a great passer and an excellent mid range shooter

@monolithgeometry3221

Жыл бұрын

You take Stockton away from that team and they're a .500 - 600 ball club. That guy did so many things well and so effortlessly, you don't notice it til he's gone

@aaronflowers8881

3 ай бұрын

Stockton is a top 3 pg ever but people are too stupid to notice it.

@biz09ification

2 ай бұрын

​@@aaronflowers8881easy top 3 pg

I've watched, played, and coached basketball for a long time. This video is extremely well done!

To be fair about the dribbling, they were just as strict about palming and carrying as they were about traveling. The thing about traveling back then was that you couldn't lift or drag your pivot foot. Pivot foot? What's that? Anyway, palming was putting your hand on the side of the ball and carrying was a kind of traveling violation due to palming. Hard to explain. Dribbling with your offhand without palming is not easy.. Try it sometime. Watch "carrying violation 1976" to see what you couldn't get away with. As time went on, they relaxed the rules to where now, you can travel and palm the ball at will. Which makes the game easier.

@HaHaha-vn4qk

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say the rule change made the game easier. Of course it’s more natural and free flowing the way you can hold and move with the ball now, but that also opens up new ways to play, which in turn for some is hard to defend against, and for others is hard to master.

@oldeskoolnewsreels9927

Жыл бұрын

@@HaHaha-vn4qk OK. I'll give you that. BUT, keeping your hand strictly on top of the ball and having limited mobility due to traveling rules makes you look "awkward." It's definitely harder to dribble that way. Get a ball and try to dribble with only your left hand as fast as you can to the other side of the court. You're not going to make it.

@davidwinston8122

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. I think they are just more akward as dribblers back then because they didn’t emphasize the technique as much.

@oldeskoolnewsreels9927

Жыл бұрын

@@davidwinston8122 The "technique" was illegal, ffs.

@oldeskoolnewsreels9927

Жыл бұрын

@@davidwinston8122 Watch "carrying violation 1976" Over time, they gradually relaxed the palming rules. Or just didn't enforce them.

This is, by far, the most interesting nba/basketball video I have seen in a long time. The progression of the game is so interesting when you can see it in real time

*Wonderful to watch! It's the kind of stuff you always want to know, but it would be too much to ask. Unless we do it ourselves and it's too much work! I really REALLY appreciate your work and this video!*

This is probably the best hoops video I’ve seen to date. That includes my old 80s 90s VHS’s, which to be fair were basically music videos. I though I’d just be nodding my head in agreement the whole time, but instead you had my eyelids peeled. Amazing job!

@nonamewillbegiven8228

Жыл бұрын

1d1ot

@luminatron

Жыл бұрын

@@nonamewillbegiven8228 spell the word right, coward troll

@nonamewillbegiven8228

Жыл бұрын

@@luminatron i spell it intentionally ya b1÷ch

One thing, I think along with the 3points efficiency this era increased, not only the capability of players to blowout teams increased, but also the capability of coming back from a blowout. Just like the warriors against the mavs, portland and other teams, they have multiple games that they came back from a supposed 25 pt game blowouts. Makes it still watchable even being down 25-30 points.

@Reydriel

Жыл бұрын

It's simple mathematics really. If you're down 24pts, you will need 12 unanswered 2pt possessions to claw the gap, but you only need 8 unanswered 3pts to do the same.

@waltjones6927

Жыл бұрын

I never thought of it like that but you right. Back in the 90s or 00s if a team was down 25 I'm turning my channel. Nowadays I'm sticking to the TV cuz that lead could be gone in minutes. Good point.

@jadedelacruz8662

Жыл бұрын

You re right, we will keep watching even if the other team was down by 30, this game 6 finals, i bet all my money on warriors, they were up like almost 20 less than a quarter and im still having heartattack

@mja91352

Жыл бұрын

Whch, of course, never happened before the 3-point shot. Oh, wait minute ...

@MrMitchbow

Жыл бұрын

@@mja91352 refs have been fixing games for a while

This should be required viewing for every basketball fan. This is phenomenal.

@Gurb-cr3wl

Жыл бұрын

not as phenomenal because he didn't read any old rules and had his biases so made idiotic statements

@Delimondo12

Жыл бұрын

@@Gurb-cr3wllike what?

@dragonslayer6912

10 ай бұрын

@@Gurb-cr3wl yeah like what? The only thing he didn't mention were dribbling violations for the 60's the rest is very good

@Gurb-cr3wl

10 ай бұрын

@@dragonslayer6912 nope dribbling, cupping, foul calling everything

@dragonslayer6912

10 ай бұрын

@@Gurb-cr3wl foul calling? what you mean by that? You don't actually think people weren't fouled 'back in those days' right? Back when they yes did play more physical but also got fouled accordingly and mainly played more physical cause the game was situated around the rim and consisted of more one on one's. Come on bruv.

I'm surprised you didn't mention the "pick n roll." From at least the 70s, at all levels of basketball, it has been a dominating play, and remains almost unstoppable today.

Excellent video. I think the only thing missing is the 1975-1976 ABA championship game. That would have revealed Doctor J's influence in the open court, going to the basket, and all-around skills. Even the crossovers and dribbling that was not seen in the clogged NBA paint finals of 1977. ( There is a clip on KZread of an ABA Doctor J crossing over his man at the 3 point line, taking 1 or two dribbles and then ramming It in over 7-2 ABA and NBA Hall of Famer centre Artis Gilmore). Remember, the ABA had the 3-point shot since 1967 and also recorded stats we take for granted today like blocks, steals, before the NBA did. The ABA set the tone with their more exciting free flow game that the NBA much later adopted through absorbing the 4 ABA teams and the talent like Doc, David Thompson and George Gervin.

Great breakdown. I wish the sports networks would focus on this content instead of hot takes. Good stuff 👍🏾

@MS-so5fr

Жыл бұрын

It really reiterates how unclogged todays paint is and how many wide open threes you see.

@ajajala5081

Жыл бұрын

Most people do not want to see analysis non stop , we want debate . Even the new media on so many talk shows give hottakes about their era . Sports media became way more profitable with the debate style that's why fox and ESPN have many shows that do that .

@Itstime1231

Жыл бұрын

@@ajajala5081 yeah this stuff is like if you have time to sit down and listen. Usually people don't want deep analysis or deep dives, they don't care

I've been following Basketball since the 91/92 season and I must say that I've learned more about tactics in these 30 minutes than I did in 30 years. Amazing video, loved every second of it! 👍

@togonumber

Жыл бұрын

.......

@bigdavido82

Жыл бұрын

Dude, I said the same thing! I watched since early 90s and now all those illegal defense calls and ridiculous iso offenses make more sense.

@DarrellC.

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@rafikz77

Жыл бұрын

@@bigdavido82 I watched basketball back then and I don’t miss Hate isoball

I'm not a big NBA fan, but I could tell this was going to be a good video. It was even better than that, with solid descriptions and great comparisons/contrasts. A worthwhile watch!

The thing with ballhandling in the 70s is that the rules were different if you took kd and time traveled him to the 70s he’d get called for a carry every possesion those 70s players literally couldn’t be as good of dribblers as the players today allen iverson really changed the game with ballhandling and what refs would call Carry

@user-lh1oo9nu4n

3 ай бұрын

They were better dribblers back then

1960s actually does sound difficult 😂 you basically have to do every movement perfectly. And they complain about fouls now you literally got one for touching someone back then 😭

@uberneanderthal

11 ай бұрын

every possession would end in a whistle if today's players were held to that standard. while the game may have been more 'pure', I can see why they let up for the sake of flow and entertainment.

@arch8748

10 ай бұрын

@@uberneanderthal in what way is that pure? Slow clunky offense with no defensive physicality? That is horrible basketball. Nothing pure about it

@uberneanderthal

10 ай бұрын

@@arch8748 consistent application of the rules as they are written, which is definitely a problem in the modern game

@nonamewillbegiven2826

10 ай бұрын

@@arch8748 shutup troll

That’s actually the best description of Illegal Defense that I’ve come across.

Credit where it's due. A brilliant analysis and answers so many questions I had growing up playing ball in the UK and watching the NBA during the 90s. You've also given me some brilliant insights into how I can change the more holistic elements of my coaching. Demystifying certain elements and getting new young players into the game itself by Demystifying what they see in TV. Thank You!

Awesome video! I almost forgot about how they tried to outlaw parts of the zone, but that just made coaches even more creative and the players even smarter. I loved 90s basketball.

While ball handling is obviously “better” nowadays, you have to realize that players carry the ball all the time now, in the 60s if they dribbled/ crossed over like they do now it would’ve been called a carry

@noname-jd2vo

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, but even then they looked uncomfortable dribbling within their rules. You can still switch hands without doing a crossover, but they didn't. You don't even need to do this "better", because It is objectively better today.

@kgisabeast

Жыл бұрын

@@noname-jd2vo yeah I’m not saying players aren’t better today because they are, just that if the rules were called like that nowadays players today would have a hard time adjusting to not dribbling like they do now, same with traveling, it’s basically never called

@ronm3945

Жыл бұрын

Wtf they travel and carry the balls these days..and the nba lets them get away with it..hows that better exactly???

@Rickypaleo1776

Жыл бұрын

The looked uncomfortable dribbling cause they couldn’t switch hands for fear of being called a carry duh.

@ronm3945

Жыл бұрын

@@Rickypaleo1776 really..have you seen maravich handle the ball..without the need to be help having to carry or travel.you old historian you lmao...i guarantee you half the dudes today wont look half as good without the help of the lax rules..lmao.

Loved this video. I loved the breakdowns and the showing of the plays. The illegal defense explanation was really well done. Seeing the differences and why each era was different is really helpful. Seeing the 50s through 70s was really interesting. I'm surprised by how much I liked the 70s style of basketball.

@hamoiq908

Жыл бұрын

yeah same, like ive never had anything against any era and respect them all but the 70's was actually super fun to watch for me with nice pull up jumpers and nice passes for explosive rim play

@dobz746

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm really surprised that a lot of people don't know the illegal rules in the 90's smh. That is there were so many post up plays and triangle offense really worked.

@nonamewillbegiven2826

Жыл бұрын

@@dobz746 m0ron

Great video, loved the ending and how you all tied it together. Such a beautiful sport captured nicely in this piece. Thank you!

Dude this video was great! I'm just getting into NBA and this helped me learn so much about the evolution of the league, rules, players, etc. which is my favorite part about sports. Keep it up, I'm gonna check out the rest of your videos now.

@jhart05

Ай бұрын

Feel bad for you. That today’s game is your first exposure to the game. Suggest you search for some old school 80s 90s games on here.

It is not surprising that newer generations become "better" at the game. They can learn from the older generations... or at least take inspiration from older generations even if some rules are changed. Basketball players becomes "better" as history goes on, should be something that is celebrated, because that means the sport is growing.

@roverjohnson6854

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, it’s a good thing that should happen and those happen in all sports. I never got why people got so offended by the fact players today are simply better than back then.

@JohnDoe-vf3qo

Жыл бұрын

@@roverjohnson6854 because it’s not them better just have more skills to run with give older eras the same techniques that the new players have now would determine whose better however the correct term are the newer players have more options

@Duqsos

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-vf3qo which means they are more skilled which also means that they are better not saying that the older era couldn’t learn how to play like the current era

@JohnDoe-vf3qo

Жыл бұрын

@@Duqsos no it just means they had more to choose firing any of the older era people in the game to play now and they will dominate because of the more options. To determine better especially between eras is to keep it equal. Give the 60s less people on the court and a 3 point line and the ideas from the later eras and you will get a similar result of now.

@roverjohnson6854

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-vf3qo, Took a LONG time after the three point line was invented to get Steph Curry. That’s not how it works.

One could make an case that the 95 Rockets were the perfect example of how modern spacing combined with a dominant center can be effective. Get the ball to Hakeem. If he’s doubled or tripled then you have 3 to 4 knock down 3 pt shooters. If you focus on defending the shooters then you leave Hakeem space to operate in the paint.

@christophergooding9820

Жыл бұрын

Idk if I'd say modern spacing, they shot about 21 3s a game, this season teams shoot 35 on average. More like spacing from 10 years ago

@MistaTofMaine

Жыл бұрын

@@christophergooding9820 true but Hakeem was so good they didn't need to shoot that many 3s.

@jraelien5798

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Very underrated team!

@christophergooding9820

Жыл бұрын

@@MistaTofMaine that doesn't disprove the fact that it wasn't modern spacing. Are you saying they had the ability to shoot more so they had the spacing but didn't? Because in that case we could say that about more teams before the 95 Rockets?

@superdopehiphop

Жыл бұрын

Hakeem top4-5 GOAT for me!

Appreciate you for taking the time and effort to put this together. Thanks and respect ✊🏾

Awesome video. Thanks for compiling and for the great analysis.

Love seeing the history of the game. I’m only 21 so I try to watch older games and get an idea of how the older NBA was like.. this video is invaluable to someone like me, great job!

@mittendemon4493

Жыл бұрын

Watching players pre 2005 pass up on open 3s makes me so mad

@malooch

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/pq5_2dekZ82-lM4.html

@ronm3945

Жыл бұрын

@@mittendemon4493 watching todays players flop travel and play no defence is utter nonsense

@slxpvz7916

Жыл бұрын

@@ronm3945 no defense i guess you rather see nikkas getting punched in the stomach… and flopping whether you like it or not is more of the refs fault if it works no sense in not using it 🤷‍♂️

@ronm3945

Жыл бұрын

@@slxpvz7916 nope its not like that .your talking the exceptions..the fights..but defence was tight and points were contested not matador defence if u call ot that..well guess society is soft and sensitive these days reflected by the sports and soyboy fanbase..not fanbase really...as most you wannabe only watch highlights bugtthink u know all lmao

Beautiful vid. I love that u showcased the evolution of the game without completely disrespecting the past players. You showed the pros and cons of each era wonderfully and added the needed context as to why the game was played each way. The history of the game is to be respected for what it was and preserved for true fans and students of the game to pass down and learn from. Thank you for your work.

@danielmacpherson8487

Жыл бұрын

Wholeheartedly agree, most people respect everything between 1980 and now but there's so much more to the game! I get very angry when I see people point out the wierd ballhandling or silly shot selection of the 60s in an attempt to try discredit Wilt, West, Russell etc because they played then, without actually acknowledging how the game was played, I knew about the crazy fast pace, and that dribbling with your hand anywhere but directly above the ball was a carry but something I'd never realised is the foul calls, I'd heard Wilt talk about why he didn't push people like Shaq, or dunk on people like MJ and he said if he was that aggressive and unsportsman-like he would have been benched, I thought the lack of contact was about this same kind of respect the players had for each other but seeing how trigger happy those refs are really goes to show how different what players were ALLOWED to do was, and that is really what seperates eras.

@deebofleebo6427

Жыл бұрын

@@danielmacpherson8487 no it isn't! The skill level was considerably lower in Wilt and Russell's era, the dominant bigs and guards were smaller, slower and weaker, they shot horribly, and there were very few players that had the athleticism of the late 70's to today! Jordan had legit 7 ft monsters to deal with at the rim that were quick on their feet, jumped very high and had outstanding lateral movement, but he was still climbing over the top and dunking on them without offensive fouling! There were no guards in that era that even dreamed of driving baseline and throwing down a one hander on player! Wilt is definitely in the same category with Shaq of overrated players that lie constantly to make themselves seem better than they were

@skullemoji5068

Жыл бұрын

Dominant bigs were smaller?????? Do you know how big wilt or Russell or Nate Thurmond or Walt Bellamy were?? The height was the same they just didn’t measure people with does back then.

@skullemoji5068

Жыл бұрын

*shoes lol

@TheIcemanthomas

Жыл бұрын

@@deebofleebo6427 u literally took all the stereotypes that we were referring to and took all the context away and just said a bunch of incorrect regurgitated shit u heard on the internet. U don’t belong here. Go do some hw and get back to me. Ignorance in 2022 is lazy and not tolerated. There’s way too many platforms that disprove every single point u just attempted to Make. Find them. Learn something before u open your mouth again. Have a nice day.

Thank you for this! probably the greatest video on the evolution of basketball and gives us a more clear understanding of how far the game has come, the development of skill/competition, rules and fundamentals. Brings light to a lot of arguments as well👀

@nonamewillbegiven6847

9 ай бұрын

No

Great video! I randomly became curious about the evolution of basketball and this vid was perfect! 😄

It's insane to think how in fifty years it turned from that to a multi billion dollar revenue of playing a game with a ball and rim

I'll always respect 50's basketball. This era is the building block for today's game. As mentioned in this video, one dribble then pull up jumper and the flashy passes made it into today's game. I made it through the whole video so I am a big basketball fan ☺️

Great work. This video shows that it’s not only players that define the game but the game also define the players. Can’t imagine Larry Bird, a 3pt contest winner turning down open 3s today and if he did he’ll definitely hear it from the coach and teammates.

Great, informative video. Appreciate the time and effort you put into this. Thanx.

That was literally one of the best half hours I’ve ever watched on KZread! Amazing!

Easily one of the most comprehensive videos of how the NBA has changed through the years. Appreciate your time and effort

I love this. Great analysis. 30 minutes seems long but it could have been an hour and I’d still be wanting more.

Glad you made this video...I definitely learned a bunch so many things became clear

17:48 holy shit poor Steve Kerr setting a screen on Malone and getting absolutely trampled on 😵‍💫

@leechrec

Жыл бұрын

Stevey must've hated playing the Jazz. Got beat up by the biggest dude (Malone), and the smallest dude (Stockton) XD

@sambeezy007

Жыл бұрын

The guy has like 7 total rings now? Edit: He has 9 now.

@slimphotog

Жыл бұрын

Isaiah Thomas caught an elbow from Malone setting a screen one time. Mailman delivered a lot of that to guards.

Enjoyed the video! Watched the '84, '85, and '87 Lakers-Celtics NBA finals a couple years ago for pandemic entertainment. There was a big difference between '85 and '87 in that using the three-point line was actually a strategy in '87. Certainly not like today but on a fast break, Michael Cooper would go to the three-point line instead of the basket. I think he made six in one game which was a huge amount.

@hamoiq908

Жыл бұрын

honestly some players nowadays still struggle to make six in a game with high shot attempts so that's impressive

@ericday4505

Жыл бұрын

I am not a fan of the 3, I can't stand to see guys pull up for that shot on a fast break, my mouth used to drop open when I first saw that, now it's nearly the norm, Dirk, and Embiid just launching away, way too much. I can't stand that shot.!!!

@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

Жыл бұрын

@@ericday4505 and why?

@daddydevito2024

Жыл бұрын

@@ericday4505 there’s a reason you’re not a coach

Loved this tour of basketball history! I'd add one thing to the close officiating noted for the '60s, especially traveling calls. Refs called traveling (or "carrying") whenever a dribbler's hand strayed from the top of the ball. There was SOME latitude, but they called anything more than, say, 45 degrees from perpendicular. That made handling the ball much more difficult, naturally enough, especially in traffic. Teams scored a lot of points, but many of them were in transition ("helter-skelter" I think you called it). You had to score fast because beating the defense in the half-court was so difficult between the traveling calls and the initiating contact rules. Thanks for the work on this!

Great video. Thanks for putting that time in. I know this took a lot of hours to put together and I appreciate it. This video gets me wondering about wilt chamberlain. How about contrasting his two championship teams? And how he changed his game. I think it would be interesting

Maybe your goat video. I feel like we have seen 8 different styles of the game in 8 decades. let me know if you agree!

Such high-quality content -- bravo! I think it's safe to say it's one of the best basketball videos I've ever seen. Thanks so much for uploading this on KZread. Massive props to you!

Great job on this dude! That was a lot of work. I really enjoyed it.

Loved this video. Wish you have dived a little more into the Dantoni Suns teams that mixed both pick and roll and off the ball screens along with the 7 seconds or less. That offense became the foundation to what we see today.

In 1990, teams were taking 7 threes a game avg 106ppg. Today the league avg is about 5x that number and they avg 110ppg! The three was considered a gimmick in the 80's, Bill Fitch made it a point to have Bird avoid shooting the 3p

@sirfish9824

Жыл бұрын

The avg was 101 ppg in 1990 and last year it was 112ppg

@sebclot9478

Жыл бұрын

That's correct, Deboo. Bird shot a lot of 3 pointers his rookie year. Fitch made him stop. I think part of the reason that the 3 was rarely used at the time was nobody was accustomed to shooting it. It didn't exits in high school or college. Most players had to learn it at the NBA level from scratch.

@poocrayon4588

Жыл бұрын

It was a gimmick. Unfourtanately that gimmick has totally ruined basketball and made it boring

@sebclot9478

Жыл бұрын

@@poocrayon4588 The three itself was fine until the 2005 rule changes. It was hard to just fire up 3 pointers all day with tired legs. Taking the physicality out of the game changed everything.

Great work on this. I learned a lot and the whole video reeked of painstaking analysis and attention to detail with what was going on in every game you looked at. Amazing job

This was a great vid, I wish I could double like it, you practically went over all the phases of basketball. Yeah my couldn’t handle that 04 pistons defense without good 3 point shooters, the spread offense is a masterpiece along with the players at all positions headed towards a more versatile route which is better since it’ll get rid of players who aren’t trying to adapt to the changing game

Crazy commitment but definitely well worth it. Amazing job!

I can’t imagine how much work was put into this. Thank you for an incredible video!

Thank you for taking the time and analyzing these! We need more videos like this, they're so interesting for hoops fans.

Fascinating! Thanks for this man, I love it.

Awesome video, great analysis, fantastic job you did, enough said!

I wouldn't call the guys in the 60's plumbers and firemen. I've watched games before this and the pace is unreal. Loong at average scoring is one thing but when you take into account the shot percentages on these fast breaks, often forced in a 1 on 2 or 2 on 3 in the defenders favor instead of slowing down the ball and transitioning into half court offense, and immediately move into fast break in the other direction, the pace was even faster than the game scores lead you to believe. These guys had to be real cross country athletes and it must have been exhausting. Its no wonder shooting percentages were so low. Everyone was burnt out. It also explains the insane rebounding numbers of big men who could get up and down the court like Wilt and Bill. Guys back then were incredible athletes. They were just built in a different way than they are today. In a similar manner, guys in the 80s/90s were also built in a different way. They were bulkier which helped them with the more physical style of play that was often focused around posting up. It also made them more durable and less prone to injury. Meanwhile today, players have more lean builds, built for speed. They're (generally) faster and get beter looks through outpacing their defender or coming off screens than backing them down. However, in all my life watching basketball I have never seen injuries be as big of an issue as they are today. There are so many star players missing so many games because of injuries, I can't help but think it's because of the way they are built. Either way, all of these guys are world-class athletes in my book. They were just built for the game in their era, and the game has changed so much over the years.

@Christopher._M

Жыл бұрын

It's not the way they are built. It's the way they play. They play with a lot of hard cuts and momentum changes. Those are what damage your knees and ankles more than anything especially when done at awkward angles. You can run up and down the court all day. What you can't do is do what Ja morant does all day.

@justinlevy274

Жыл бұрын

@@Christopher._M These guys also grow up playing an absolute ton of basketball so their bodies have more wear and tear before they even get to the league.

@davidnotshawty

Жыл бұрын

this is probably my favorite basketball comment

@lukamagicgod

Жыл бұрын

Bro what you talking about build different? They all just the same, they just play different. We all just the same people bro lol. Tf this guy talking about.

@Tuvok_Shakur

Жыл бұрын

@@lukamagicgod how you work out, train, eat, etc. changes your build, and you can go for a lean build or bulk up. Duh

Finally a video about different eras of basketball without the creator throwing in their unwanted opinions about who's better or "how much harder" it used to be or is now. Thank you, and great video!

@GinkgoPete

Жыл бұрын

He even dispells some of that with his comments about the Celtics. Just a great video about old NBA without Old Head bullshit.

I always wondered about these comparisons. Thanks

Awesome video man, really appreciate you putting this together.

it always infuriates me when I hear people talk down about past eras. It's literally like saying a baby is dumb and can't compare to a grown human lol. 50-80s were literally learning stages for basketball, the sport was still fairly new and trying to get mastered. I say all the time, todays players aren't necessarily better but just more fortunate to be born in a later time where basketball has now fully developed. If guys like LeBron were born in the 40s he would play exactly how they played back then because he wouldn't have a MJ or Magic to learn from.

@deebofleebo6427

Жыл бұрын

What's that gotta do with the lack of skill in past eras?!

@cenvalleybasketball

Жыл бұрын

@@deebofleebo6427 lmao I just explained it. When was the sport basketball created? When did the league start? Who taught cousy how to dribble? Who was the 1st to dribble between the legs? Now ask yourself, how many examples do these current players have to learn from over the 75yrs? Is lebron not compared to past players? Again, u can't compare a baby with a grown man. Cousy and those players = baby(because they were just learning a new sport) current players = grown men(because the game is now fully developed 75yrs later)

@juanpalma6595

Жыл бұрын

Lol todays players are infinitely better compared to the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s

@sehlordhorr8540

Жыл бұрын

Morphic resonance is real. How long was basketball part of human consciousness back then? How long has it been with us nowadays? Silly that people don’t see and appreciate this.

@Emdee47317

Жыл бұрын

I agree, though it goes both ways too. People glorify how physical basketball used to be, and if you look at clipped highlights, you would think so, too. However, the game only stopped being called incredibly tightly in throughout the 90s-2000s, and even then it’s not that big a difference, there was just more clogged paint play, which led to more post ups. Furthermore, until the help defense rule was changed, offenses were given infinitely more of an advantage over defenses back in the day than they are now, contrarily to what most oldheads would tell you. The pre-zone era was the only real one in which the rule book explicitly limited defense and gave offenses an advantage

Looking at this video, you start to appreciate more every era. And realize why players play the way they play to a certain extent. The rule changes really dictate the evolution of the game.

@Ricky-Spanish

Жыл бұрын

The rule changes certainly had an impact, but I'm struck by how much simple changes in strategy/philosophy really altered the game. I grew up watching the NBA in the 90s, and even then, I always wondered why players would turn down open threes. Like the clip from the 98 finals, I don't care what era it was, Stockton should've taken that shot.

@dantedlane2

10 ай бұрын

@@Ricky-SpanishReggie said it best,you can’t be a punk you gotta drive it in the lane ,it was motivation

Great video!!! First time on this channel. I'm now subscribed lol. Thank you for taking the time to make this.

It‘s really one of the best basketball videos i‘ve ever watched Really great Work !!

Fantastic work! Watched the whole thing in one go, couldn't turn it off. Thanks for the great video.

Awesome video! I've been wanting a video like this comparing each decade of the NBA to each other. Amazing work dude!

what a masterpiece, thank you so much for this video for the ages!!!

I respect the effort you put in to this video. The patience, urgency and how you dedicaded your love to this beautiful game. From your man AD

As usual an amazing video. I feel like your videos make me love the sport more. Watching the playoffs I couldn’t help but see your animations on the court helping me understand the motions better. It really does help.

Thank you very much for making such a great production I really enjoyed it and it's very informative very educational I definitely can tell you put a lot of time and hard work into this it is definitely refreshing to find videos like this

Old Timers couldn't handle the fact that GS Warriors are the most dominant team of all time, I did NBA2K simulation and they destroy 96 Bulls and 2001 Lakers in blow out fashion

@rafikz77

Жыл бұрын

Nostalgia. They can’t let go

@hinika

Жыл бұрын

NBA2K???

@nonamewillbegiven2826

Жыл бұрын

Says no one. Troll

@nonamewillbegiven2826

Жыл бұрын

@@rafikz77 troll

@MichaelJordanGoat2324

3 ай бұрын

yea 2k is real life

This was sooooo informational! Thanks man!

Great content thanks for taking the time to put it together. I'm from England and played high school basketball in the mid 90s. Finally, I know where and when my high school manager learnt his basketball plays, the 80s lol. The plays that you highlighted from this decade were our staples, it was fun to see where they were taken from.

@clydekimsey7503

10 ай бұрын

Interesting. How popular is basketball there? Is there a pro team there?

Amazing video! I listen to a lot of nba player rankings and seeing what the game was actually like throughout the eras is super helpful. Thanks for making this!

@MS-so5fr

Жыл бұрын

It really highlights how todays game is one dimensional. All I saw were threes and almost all of them wide open lol.

Excellent analysis. Great job!

My first time watching a vid by hoopvision and I'm impressed with your knowledge of the sport and your dedication to making a vid like this

Although decades form a natural timeframe, I think some jumps are a bit too large. 1963 to 1977 we skip a period where NBA has a competitor league in ABA yet has a historically stacked center position, 1985 to 1998 we skip the early 90s which is rather different from the late 90s featuring peak Hakeem, MJ, Barkley and offensive efficiency is still high league wide. I would have liked adding sth like the 1972 Lakers-Bucks and the 1993 Bulls-Suns finals. That said, absolutely great video!

@jobinskywalker8167

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree, great video, massive props to OP, overall really wonderful work done esp keeping things level headed unbiased among eras. Also great jumping off point for those looking to understand the history of the game more. However there were huge periods of NBA history passed over in the jumps that really contextualize the changes of the game.

dude you are so underrated. your breakdowns are actually good! i had to replay a few times on certain play to confirm your observation

Amazing work, man! Much appreciated!

Look at you young man! You got all the science and everything. Keep making videos young man! You gon make it big one day! The science for left hand 🫲 made me know you the truth out here w these videos! Bless you my bro. Bless you!

Hookshots are underrated and should be done more today. Meadowlark Lemon perfected it so well he could make a skyhook from anywhere on the court.

@jesseaustin4089

Жыл бұрын

You do realize that things like the average level of athleticism, close out speed (from defenders to shooters), and help defense play a big role in why that type of shot wouldn't be regularly effective in today's game right? Stop letting nostalgia cloud your judgement my friend.

@dustincobb5718

Жыл бұрын

@@jesseaustin4089 With hookshots you don't have to set with both hands it's faster than you think Watch how Meadowlark did it when he tried to do it fast. Some of his shots were slow to be funny or for drama etc when he needed to do it with speed he could. Athletes have not evolved the rules evolved and shoes changed. As humans it takes atleast thousands of yrs to see legit evolution.

@monolithgeometry3221

Жыл бұрын

@@jesseaustin4089 Who knows even what the rules are to that game anymore , they change and soften them so often like people change sexes . Can you still do pump fakes or is that illegal. Who gives a shit really. Bomb a 3 against mentally soft players with better speed

Man this video makes me respect Kobe even more cause the rules were seriously changing around his reign and like you pointed out he didn't have the shooting help to supplement his drives like lebron did and still made it work before Detroit won one....also you should have done the Nba salaries during each take to see if a guy really had to get that plumber job while playing in the league lol

@jcjourney2406

Жыл бұрын

Yea but he Shaq. That kinda evens it out

When I saw the title the first thing that came to mind was small sample size. I'm glad to see this video was much more than that. What makes this video truly great is the presentation of the details of basketball strategy within the games to make larger overall points about each era. A very educational video, and very well produced.

@nonamewillbegiven6847

9 ай бұрын

So it is small sample size. M0r0n

Wow that's great. I finished the video and want to share it with all my friends. That's how good it was.

Great breakdown and information. Crazy how the game we all love, basketball, has evolved over the decades. I starred following the game back in 1978, Seattle SuperSonics vs Washington Bullets and been a fan since. This video break down was respectfully done. Thanks for your hard work and sharing with us.

@monstrousbytommywalker3700

Жыл бұрын

The 5-17 Bob Hopkins Sonics before Lenny Wilkins took over?! What a truly amazing year, and great year to catch NBA fever! Marvin Webster in '78, then Jack Sikma in '79!

@kennethrobinson6738

Жыл бұрын

@@monstrousbytommywalker3700 Yes indeed! That 1978 and 79 squad was special. Lenny Wilkins did a fantastic coaching job. I hate how that 78 and 79 Sonics squad never gets mentioned among the Championship teams, even though that 78 squad didn't win the title but that 79 squad is so overlooked! It is a shame.

@monstrousbytommywalker3700

Жыл бұрын

@@kennethrobinson6738 No marquee names at the national level. I watched the Lakers for Kareem and later Magic, the Celtics for Bird and the Bulls for Michael. The rest of these teams would grow on me through familiarity over time.

Love your channel hoopvision. I was hoping you could take a look at some of the euroleagues best offenses and defenses as well. I'm willing to bet theyre going to be very informative

fantastic vid!! Those "set shots" by guys like Dolph Shayes were hilarious to watch. And Bob Cousy's one-handed dribbles....

Amazing video. This man truly understands what basketball is and how it’s played