As a bodyboarder, even surfing a break 500 metres away is too close for those kinds of sad, angry people. You do you man. You're there for the waves, not to listen to his problems.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Brendan :) Cheers mate!

@Strawman333

3 ай бұрын

It’s all about etiquette and respect. Keep that in your mind and earn the respect. As soon as you drop in on someone the 2nd or third time you deserve what you get.

I've been surfing 40 years...there's always people like this and unfortunately there always will be....in the water and out.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Sad to hear, but I agree.

Props to you for staying so calm man!

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty calm out there, I don't want any problems, but these guys seem to thrive on bullying others. It sucks.

@maxdavies3147

2 жыл бұрын

David found you mate

@sostuffed7326

2 жыл бұрын

Oh hello David jones

@darthnihilus4074

2 жыл бұрын

Oh hey David!

@uno3822

2 жыл бұрын

wait what David's here 😳 hi David 👀

The irony is that his lack of ability is what actually ruined the wave for him haha.

@twinfin8867

2 жыл бұрын

thats how i saw it too. He's angry at himself and has poor self esteem so blaims and takes it out on this nice guy a true local to that beach! The guy took off too late for his ability and stuffed himself!

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen him surf before and he is actually pretty decent.

@twinfin8867

2 жыл бұрын

@@GivesAMinute descent surfer with issues ...to big for his britches ! Humble Rippers thats whats cool. Plenty of agro haughty guys in santa cruz too! At least Gives has it mostly to himself ...usually. This was a good day though! Nice waves and really a small crowd . Dont ever change man!

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy. I'm not gonna let this stop me learning!!

That guy is absolutely hilarious you being there didn’t hinder his drop which he was obviously way too deep for. Guys just looking for someone to take his inner battles out on, so lame. Good on you for standing your ground and still being frothing on your waves after, bet he had a shitty day after that.

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate :) You're probably right, there's obviously something else going on in his life.

@lozarona

2 жыл бұрын

@@GivesAMinute for suree, I mean how many times do you get close to someone when you take off. Literally thousands of times haha. But yea good on you any surfer watching can see who is more humble and respectful here

@timwannell6477

5 ай бұрын

And shitty life!

Funny thing is, you were the best surfer in the water that day! Because you the one that had the most fun!

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

HECK yeah!!! I agree!!

You did the absolute right thing, he got stuck in the lip because his paddling and pop up suck!

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

I'm hearing this from a lot of people. Thanks mate.

He just blamed ya coz he was pissed that he wasnt quick enough to turn after the drop probably.

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

It seems like that for sure!

"Regardless of who is right or wrong here"... 3:27 Dude the problem is you should have paddled in the exact OPPOSITE direction. You effectively would have been less in his way had you not trying getting out of his way 😅 Also, there's a whole beach. Why paddle straight into the middle of the crowd to barely straighten out? Everyone deserves to have fun, you should be able to learn and practice but your learning shouldn't hinder other people. A little accountability might do wonders... 4:00 Dude was actually trying to tell you things too, but you were too entitled to listen. Don't sit under people. Don't paddle inside of them. Paddle TO the foam or super wide in the channel. 99% of etiquette is common sense 🤷‍♂ But apparently almost the whole comment section is oblivious too...

@GivesAMinute

10 ай бұрын

I can see your point totally. Cheers.

@ronaldinho5860

7 ай бұрын

You have got to be kidding me right ? The guy going off was a complete jerk off.

@larrysquires5321

6 ай бұрын

Shut up. This dude apologized, that other dude kept running his mouth and said nothing informative. Bottom line, this dude was in the lineup - he wasn't sitting inside. And he had no reasonable expectation that some yokal was gonna paddle after a shitty wave with such shitty positioning. Whatever your ability, you're obviously a toad.

@wisu3529

4 ай бұрын

@@GivesAMinute I’ve been surfing for45+ years. I think the old fellas probably didn’t handle it well but I think their comments were less about localism and more about safety, both yours and theirs. Thing is, you have every right to learn to surf and have fun. But everyone else deserves to have fun and stay safe too. When I was a learner many years ago, I stayed off to the side and by myself until I had the skill to surf around other people safely. I’m sure you’re a really nice guy with a good vibe and not beyond reason. It’s easy to point the finger at everyone else and think they’re being unreasonable, but I’ve been run over and fin chopped many times over the years by beginners with no control or safety awareness for others. I’ve seen people lose eyes from beginners bailing their boards paddling out and then people behind taking the nose of the board to the eye. Again, I hate seeing a nice guy like you getting hassled, but I’m not sure you have enough safety awareness to fully understand what they were trying to tell you. The fact you were so defensive and closed off to it seemed a bit concerning. In places like Maroubra, there would be no conversation with you; you’d just get a fist to the head (which I’m not in favour of). So in short, I think they were a bit abrupt but the safety concerns they raised were legitimate points. I’d recommend spending some time digging into surf safety and etiquette to have better confidence in the water. It’ll be a better experience for you and other surfers around you. Stay safe and have fun. Don’t lose your good vibes over this 🙂🙏

Yesterday went surfing at my local spot and two 45-50 y olds were surfing the same point. I started peddling for a wave looked to the left of me and saw no one so I went for it. Got the wave but heard no one behind me. Got back in the lineup and a 45 y old started shouting at me and said his mate had preference but straight away in a very aggressive way. So I was like "who" are you talking about because I saw no one ? The guy in question came up and was very friendly actually and explained to me he was on the peak which I clearly didnt see so I apologized but straight away said I don't tolerate the way his friend was talking to me. That guy now started threatening me that I should even try to discuss with them there.... IMO if you start getting pissed for your mate and try to pick a fight, you are not a 45 educated adult , you are a 15 y old shitty teen in a 45 y old body. I got snaked that day , a beginner kept laying in front of me and I almost dropped in on him, ITS OKAY ! Explain them the rules in a nice way so they learn, not being a dick for your boyfriend. Also what I notice is that beginner surfers are really chill and fun because they want to learn and they kinda look up to better surfers, but then intermediate surfers are real dicks it seems... High level surfers become chill again because they are so good at reading waves and people they anticipate. Moral of the story even if someone did not see you, feel free to address them in a respectful manner, because respect is what you will receive back most of the time.

Coming from the skate scene, where many of the very best skaters are also the most encouraging and supportive to the less experienced, I've determined that surfing is [relatively] full of utter twunts!

@GivesAMinute

10 ай бұрын

Thats exactly the same take I have on it. Sucks, but thats the reality.

@chrismousr

5 ай бұрын

As a older guy 20+ yr skater & snowboarder, learning how to surf has shown me that surfing culture is by far the most hostile and unfriendly sport unless you know people, you're really really good or you're famous. I thought, growing up watching Kelly Slater, that the surf community was as friendly. Not even close. I learned to just be friendly and apologetic helped. Get to know the locals in the lineup and learn the "rules." All that to say that you'll still get snaked and yelled at lol

Old mate at the end paddled across you and back on the inside, hipocrite. Blokes like that preach surf etiquette aggressively aren't real surfers.

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

He also "counted" how many times I came off and belittled me with the stats. Really encouraging of him.

Seemed like you were having a good time before the guy came around to complain . That's on him . You wanna have a good time learning or just enjoy surfing , attacking someone who's learning is not the way to go . Good on you for moving out so he stopped complaining . But bad on him for being rude with someone he doesnt even know ...

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

Thats right man, when someone acts like this I question it, but ultimately I will just move away from them.

Good job staying calm some people just suck

I live in culburra and this is a common occurance and I'm only 13, it's insane !

Onya mate, that old man is a crybaby!! Calling you out on that 2 footer, what a joke. He blamed you as his paddle into the wave and subsequent ride was lame. BTW you paddled exactly as you should have. We need to stoke up the people that have less experience, not tread on them and put them down. How you kept your cool and paddled away from the peak was epic.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for the nice words mate. I want to be a better surfer so I am not going to let this stop me :)

@whatsupcats

Жыл бұрын

@@GivesAMinute My home is Margaret River in West Oz, learning there as a grom and where I still have a house, however living in South Padre Island Texas now. We just did a surf trip to El Salvador where we surfed a great spot 12-15 foot rock point, taking my daughter and her friend both learning. It was so cool as there were WSL pros, intermediates and even learners being pushed into the tail end of the wave by instructors. EVERYONE was hooting for the kids and adult beginners when they got a wave. Thats what I call surf stoke mate. NB: Check out our 50 second short of the session. 🤙🤙✌✌

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Wow! Checked out the shorts. Those waves look so sick! Clean, big and (what looked like) an easy take off. Jealous!!!

@whatsupcats

Жыл бұрын

@@GivesAMinute Thanks mate for checking out our vids. My daughter and her GF have the best time together. Longer version of the latest El Salvador surf trip coming up soon.🤙

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

@@whatsupcats Sweet man! Love catching other surfing content here on YT :) Keep it up!!

Bro, you conducted yourself fine out there. New subscriber

The spot looks pretty wide open for beginners and it’s not like it’s a life or death day. Even if you should of paddled the other way, no big deal, it takes years to learn and we still sometimes get in people way

I would of asked the bald eagle to discuss his issue on the beach and not from the protection of the water. Pussio move by him.

Hey Gives, it’s Max Bruh, and like in the movie XXX I’d of told that Ars to not be a Dick…Dick. Lol 😂 Jkjk….maybe. Glad you had some good waves 🌊 & runs. 🏄‍♂️ Don’t worry, Be Happy & Life’s too short, and all that good stuff right. Fn Locals and their Bad Attitudes at times right. Rise Above & keep up them GOOD VIBES.!! 🤙🏻🤘✌️👍🏼🏄‍♂️🍺

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy :) Cheers JD! :)

I feel you, there are people who get upset and angry from 0 to 10 in a sec.

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

I know right?!! Best just to leave them to it and move on I say.

I wonder how many people are eaten by sharks per year that aren't known about, such as annoying surfers that meet with unexpected events thru Karma ?

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

Not many I'd say!!

@timareskog2418

2 жыл бұрын

GivesAMinute Numbers may pick up in the future.

Same way I would have paddled and always do when someone is on the inside going for a wave.

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

"Always" is the wrong way to look at it (IMHO), you SHOULD go towards the whitewater in most instances, but every situation is different. In this case I was already on the other side so what I did was correct, but cheers for your thoughts Adam :)

Been surfing since I was a kid and gotta say you were in the wrong there. If the wave in question was about to break you would have A. Been in a position to go for it ie having adjudicated and turned and paddled already OR B. NOT been directly in the line of any surfer taking the wave. Being aware of your positioning at all times is crucial in keeping things chill out there. Still don't think you deserved the telling off though given old mate wouldn't have made the section anyways. He was too far behind to make it.

Water is warm and the guy is wearing gloves 😂

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

It's probably more for power when paddling.

Yeah, that happens. Ruins the vibe. You cannot always tell which way someone is going. It's tempting to try to explain, but sometimes it's better not to engage.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Yep, best to get out of the way, leave them to it. That's how I feel too.

I mean, the old guy isn't wrong..

Yea as a sponger u weren’t in the wrong the other guy just doesn’t know how to make a drop 😂🤙🏽

Man..theres always one, You did well to keep calm an he clearly has issues and was venting ..Thats a left point break..why would he go right anyway?

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

Something was definitely at play outside of his surf, that's for sure. As for the right, it breaks both ways, but the left is typically a better ride.

@middleagedshred

2 жыл бұрын

@@GivesAMinute yea..ya shudda said only kooks go right there..)

Hey bro cool video 🤙🏽 I think the problem here was how long it took u to paddle away from the peak. If u paddled away sooner, it wouldn’t really have mattered if u paddled to the right or left. If I was in your shoes, I would’ve paddled right (whitewash side) instead of left (as you did) bc the wave was breaking right. You handled that with class tho 👌🏽

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. I agree, I should have moved faster for sure. Gotta get stronger and a better paddler!!

@robertferguson2468

10 ай бұрын

Agreed about moving earlier. Right would have been clear call if the 2nd (3rd) surfer (with priority) wasn't appearing to be going for the wave behind old guy. Tough situation though and the old guy acting like a bully after you we're reasonable just makes me sad. He's fine to be butt hurt but let it go if it happens once

That guy is wrong. You did the right thing to get out of his way, and if you paddled the other way you would have been straight in front of him. It’s people like him that are ruining surfing.

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking too. There's no way at all that I could have paddled the other way and NOT got in his way!

there's one of those types at every break.....except in california where the whole state is like this guy

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

I'd hate to surf there then! What's the answer to guys like this in your lineup?

@robertc8766

Жыл бұрын

@@GivesAMinute fortunately I live in central florida now and beaches are pretty relaxed here. In california when i lived there, i would try to arrrive at different times than the hooligans. on really crowded days, i just didnt go out. there was also no parking anywhere to be found...glad to be out of that state

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that sounds lousy! I walk to the beach here, love it!!

@stevie6010

Жыл бұрын

Robert c I live in San Diego and I couldn’t agree more. It’s not just surfers either, it’s everywhere especially Hollywood! If your not from there they don’t want you there. It’s filled with people that never learned how to respect others. Learn respect first, then learn to surf

You did nothing wrong and everything right. Good for you for keeping your cool. Old man should be ashamed.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. Cheers for the support.

Bro, I wouldn’t worry about it, clear case of too much work, anger

@GivesAMinute

9 ай бұрын

Probably. We all have those days!

@magnetmountain33

9 ай бұрын

@@GivesAMinute well yes, and no not at my age and certainly not at his age but when I was younger yes when I had no transport and only one place I could surf one place I could surf without dying as I lived very close to what they call the English box and spot M see Ruben and Just Ash, aerial masters! Long ass point Break! Everybody out there is just trying to stay alive. It’s big and it has a habit of doing what are pipeline does to people. My friend broke his pelvis on a head high day and usually the place only starts working once it’s overhead. Probably safer when it’s triple! 😂 going over the falls landed straight on a massive boulder, less than ideal! Mind you us does have it issues with attitude in the water these days. Such a shame I purposely tell everyone drop in if you want party wave bro 😎 But I’m pretty rare ! And 2 foot to care these days with back problems! 😂 I’m trying to grow old disgracefully, whatever works to get you through the tube, master of the upsidedown truck driver🫣😂

@GivesAMinute

9 ай бұрын

You seem pretty chill, I wish more were like you out there in the lineup! Cheers mate :)

@magnetmountain33

9 ай бұрын

@@GivesAMinute pleasure mate, if you’re ever over in the British Isles, give me a shout if you need a place to stop your bored or Suit to borrow we have a nice little novelty wave here or Newlyn harbour wall, which I was hoping to catch this morning, but it took me so long to sort my back out. I missed it! Oh well! Only one person on it! You’d love the south coast to Cornwall everyone is super friendly, even at Saint Agnes these days…….. people are way more tolerant……… Knowth Cornwall Sue a little bit different, but only because there’s way less choice, so everyone keeps all of the secret spots closely guarded but if you’re over and you can only get to North Devon, I’ll drive up and meet you bro!

@magnetmountain33

9 ай бұрын

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Thing is, yeah.. You could have gone towards the wash, or you could have started paddling earlier. But point is you tried to get out of the way. Sure, it might not have been completely successful and maybe you did ruin it for him.. (amongst other aspects) But before old mate is history, he's problably gonna do the same mistake at least once. Shit happens, you say you're sorry and it's all good. If you did it multiple times, or it was double overhead and injury could occur, then yeah it might be a justified reaction. But on a 2 ft wave? That just speaks of his character and poor surf etiquette, man is insecure and wants to prove his ~shredability~, and will look for any chance to blame someone else for what he's lacking. Very common with the generation of surfers that was in their prime during the 80's and 90's when over-surfing a potato chip was the only acceptable norm. Mutual respect is what it's all about! If that was me and he reacted respectfully, i'd give him priority on multiple waves , but reacting like that can only be handled in one way, which is how you did it. Well done for standing your ground and being respectful.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Cheers mate. Agree with everything you have said here. It makes for a lousy vibe ultimately. I thought surfing was meant to be fun!

Analogy… I decide to take up tennis. I go to my local sporting goods store. I buy a racquet and a goofy outfit. Then I believe I have the right to compete at center court Wimbeldon? I understand the ocean is for everyone, but if you don’t know what you are doing, you are a danger to everyone around you.

The ocean is an ever changing playing field. When the surf is on it’s temporary. Only so many waves are available. So when you get beginners without etiquette intertwined with better surfers that are local there is going to be animosity. Always will be. The goal at the best spots is to get the best ride that you can. If you are spoiling that for the better riders it’s disrespectful. Go down the beach and learn on the shit waves until you can respect the riders who’ve put in the years to ride at the best spots. Common sense.

Cheers to you! Old mate just sucked ass, he can't even do a proper takeoff. You should've stayed at the peak, but don't obey this kind of frustrated man by going away. Just say sorry or "didn't see ya" and that's pretty much it. If he still being annoying just ignore him. In the future just try to be more aware of the surroundings, people are coming from every angle... I hate when this happens, it just ruins your day!

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy. Good tips and I'll try to keep them in mind should this happen again :)

Paddling to his left would have been better. However, even paddling to the right did not really impede his ability to catch the wave. Also he actually was paddling deeper and in front of you. So it was hard to judge which way to go. Either way, you were apologetic and he was way too upset for that. Accidents happen in a moving playing field and even pros will get in the way of other surfers in a lineup. People need to let things go. Especially when you were taking the blame for his inability to catch that wave.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate the level headedness of your comment. Thank you!

Always wanted to surf, moved to an area with a lot of good surf beaches by chance about ten years ago & finally got around to having a lesson last year, now in my late 30's, went out & bought a board but only used it a couple of times because of the exclusive vibes surfing has, as a total noob the self consciousness & fear of confrontation is a major barrier. Seems like you already have the basics down, not sure I would be as good at avoiding getting in the way when still figuring out how to paddle, balance & control the board.

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

My advice would be to not be intimidated. Everyone has to learn, the old salty dogs were at that point once in their surfing life too.

@A_Canadian_In_Poland

Жыл бұрын

I found that pre-emptively condemning oneself is highly effective at stopping this. I remember learning swimming at 24 years of age, getting condescending remarks from masters swimmers; I wrote "I SUCK" with a Sharpie marker on my chest and back, and never got a condescending remark again.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

@@A_Canadian_In_Poland Interesting take. I don't mind a little self depreciation.

Guy gets upset over 1 foot crap waves. 🤨

@GivesAMinute

10 ай бұрын

Still fun out there even in 1 foot waves tho!

Another of times people who complain are not great surfers it's laughable

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

He's actually quite a good surfer.

Tbh id just leave it at "sorry mate, tried to get out of your way" and then not say a word and just keep surfing, lifes too short for this kinda shit.

@GivesAMinute

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, you might be right. "Never go off your path to step on an ant"

That guy is not a pro surfer he is the one that needs to learn to surf. Not you 👍

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

Well, he's a better surfer than I am, no questions.

It is what it is, and it's going to be one of those lame things to deal with unfortunately... You did the right thing staying towards the outside, k. Trust me, you can get into a slug fest if they wanted to step it up... Anyway, you'll gain respect by showing respect even though they will shit on you for awhile..... Never cut people off there, and just wait for your wave's. When a wave is there for you, you're at the peak go if you waited your turn in the lineup.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Thanks James. I will certainly keep this in mind and keep learning to surf :)

@jameso8418

Жыл бұрын

👍 way back when I was a kook we all had our run ins w locals. Everyone who surf's was a kook at one time. Respect is earned, not given. Keep surfing.

Old man surfers at this break are hilarious. Always waiting checks their fragile bodies can’t cash.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Interesting take on it!

Your positioning was the problem

@GivesAMinute

8 ай бұрын

Clearly

Get out of the way

if you are learning... you learn a bit away from the crowd, for your/their safety... you avoid all kinds of troubles! and probably you get more waves! then you'll learn (the basics, the rules, etc) and everything will be a bit different...

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

I've learnt enough to be up at the point with the others (check back in my channel)

@joaomendes4321

Жыл бұрын

@@GivesAMinute to BE honest ... From This video perspective It does not seem! But if you think so! its up too you ! have fun ! Cheers

Hey mate love your Videos it’s all good but you never pedal to the inside of the wave always paddle to the outside so it was a left-hander the apparel from right right hand up your pedal to the fact you don’t paddle inside sorry man it’s just a Russian mistake all of the store

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. Cheers!!

You weren't even in his way you were just paddling over the wave don't know what he was talking about.

@GivesAMinute

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Had I have gone the other way I would have definitely been in his way!!

You were too close to him either way. He clearly had priority and his wave was ruined. Vals need to listen and learn from more experienced surfers until they learn how to read a line up.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

I'm listening and learning. What should I have done here?

@daviddavies5555

Жыл бұрын

@@GivesAMinute well mate if there’s another peak go and learn to surf there. If you must surf with experienced guys keep clear rather than floating around in the impact zone. They’ve paid their dues and dodging Val’s is a pain in the neck. Communication helps so maybe start a simple conversation and they’ll be more likely to give you a wave if you show respect for seniority and surf culture in the lineup.

@GivesAMinute

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips, will keep in mind :)

@stevie6010

Жыл бұрын

David Davies, have you ever surfed pipeline? It’s neck to neck out there and they don’t let it ruin there waves. He wasn’t a good enough surfer to make that drop, it’s clear and obvious. Also the way he reacted was childish and disrespectful, there’s no excuses for that

@jagggy_snake

Жыл бұрын

You come across just like the sad old cunt in this video. You seem to forget is that 1) everybody starts somewhere, including you 2) even if people do make mistakes, they're mistakes and 3) if you actually had any surfing ability you'd have seen that old guy ruined his own wave by being too deep and not making it past the section.