GROOMED?? She was 24/25 when she decided to go to Syria

@chrisking8579

5 ай бұрын

She was 15 at the time

@Monet2004

5 ай бұрын

@@chrisking8579 She was born in 1989, she went to Syria in 2014. Do the math . SHE WAS 25!

@irandude1655

3 ай бұрын

@@chrisking8579 you cannot seriously do math. what a shame.

@Sad_bumper_sticker.

3 ай бұрын

@@chrisking8579 She was 25 NOT 15: Born: 1989 (age 35 years), Birmingham

@shammydammy2610

3 ай бұрын

@@chrisking8579 Shamima was 15. This one was not. This one already had a kid before, a kid she decided to take with her on this endeavor.

Lol she left because it was uncomfortable and dangerous there, not because she was wrong to try to join a terrorist group.

@Reaper7763

Жыл бұрын

Thats what i think when listening to most of them. Most of all shamima begum.

My sister is nine yrs old and she knows ISIS is bad. Come on, she knew what she was doing.

she is not in danger.. she is the danger

The real question is why was she treated differently to SHAMIMA what are the fundamental differences and disparities between the two

@ZM-et7zt

3 ай бұрын

Exactly

@truthhearit1471

3 ай бұрын

She left and came home on her own after a short term

@umadevihunt4863

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. Lies kept pouring out of her evil mouth

@itsallgood8347

2 ай бұрын

It never came up in this interview, but, it's citizenship. You cannot make someone stateless. Shamima had her citizenship revoked, because the UK believe she has Bangladeshi citizenship. If that wasn't the case, Shamima would 100% be allowed back.

@lanapapas

20 күн бұрын

Shamina was a child...she was a mom and older. Yet she get mercy.

She joined ISIS because of a relationship breakdown….wow

@GrgAProduction

Ай бұрын

Excuses excuses excuses .. like you hear alllover in this. It’s everybody else’s fault. Not ONCE was it her own actions and choices that were wrong.

Ex Muslim community - we don't believe her

@erisrandon5239

9 ай бұрын

They do exist

The UK will never learn.

Even thinking about joining isis at any level is a no-no for the majority no matter what! I still think she is not changing

@MsEviera

Жыл бұрын

Britain Government should send her back to Syria and never let her enter to England.

@AdultThirdCultureKid1971

9 ай бұрын

100%. Beware of anyone who preys upon and exploits your feeling of lack of direction and empathy for others.

@andrewblunts-ringwalks4508

4 ай бұрын

Some are a child when it suits a narrative. Some are guilty depending on the level of hate

I don't understand why she is claiming to have been groomed. She wasn't a child, she was 24 years old. She fully understood what she was doing.

@1Luv87

8 ай бұрын

She was 15 not 24

@jasmins581

8 ай бұрын

@@1Luv87 No she was not. She was born in 1989, so you can do the math on that. Shamima Begum was 15, not this girl.

@1Luv87

7 ай бұрын

@@jasmins581 ooo oh ok

@saichetanreddy2012

7 ай бұрын

@@1Luv87 well 15 years is a kid now? and even has a boyfriend

@njxwolverine2493

4 ай бұрын

@@1Luv87she was 24

Don’t believe her when she says she was groomed. She had a choice: go or stay was her own decision Guess what, I’ll return and tell everyone what they want to hear so I can stay now, is a very canny strategy I wouldn’t trust her ever..

@TruthSeekerAll

8 ай бұрын

100% spot on.

Shemima Begum said in one of her first interviews that she saw videos of people being beheaded and thought it was cool and off she went. How sick is that? I wonder if this girl would have stayed if she had been given the palace she had been promised instead of the utter dive she was living in.

@bdave9012

Ай бұрын

Yeah, SHE decided on coming BACK to London simply because she MISSED creature comforts like "having a bath" and "things like that".

@awicca3079

12 күн бұрын

@@bdave9012 well having a bath is very important. Especially if you are Japanese

Accountability is their kryptonite

She knew exactly what she was doing and she came home because it wasn’t fun when she got there! Rewarding this person by putting her on TV is exactly what you don’t need to do! She’s not helping anyone except herself!

They all blame others for their happy childhood!!! She makes me sick!!! She had 6 years of time to plan what to say and talk when she leaves the place where she belongs!!!

She doesn’t come off honest tbh..

@abbieeeshaw7879

Жыл бұрын

She’s dodgy

@kalyaninagarajah5137

3 ай бұрын

True looks like she is acting like she changed as the situation got bad there

Something not right, comes off as fake,she needs to be watched long term

@mrr4975

3 ай бұрын

Ok you watch her and make sure she behaves.

@KingofgraceSARA

3 ай бұрын

You know she is.

Something is definitely not right with this women she has like no recognition or like self awareness

How do you trust that she is not still radically influenced?

@elora179

Жыл бұрын

Because she wears make up and changed her hairstyle! How could you questions that!

@abbieeeshaw7879

Жыл бұрын

She’s very suspicious isn’t she

@jitennchaudhary9665

Жыл бұрын

@@elora179 Lol she joined ISIS because of her relationship breakdown. WTF

@christinaraji513

Жыл бұрын

@@jitennchaudhary9665 yes , is not she , if she went to breakdoun , go join with social service organisation or go with yoga. It's not , it's something not normal to join with Isis and went to fight or work with them ? I think , don't trust her , it's better choice .

@raywren4933

Жыл бұрын

Because she made a bad decision in the middle of a perfect storm of grooming, youthful naivety, emotional vulnerability and social isolation, then she went to prison, did therapy, and now has set up an organisation to help others to not go in the same direction. Does she need to prove her contrition anymore?

Usually when people end a relationship they grieve that relationship then move on… so it’s not an excuse for joining ISIS. Sorry but I just don’t believe her

LIES - your actions/your choices, your responsibilities.

Why do they keep saying she was a teen! She was in her 20s ! Her attitude is wild she still defending herself n actions!

Look at her smirking taking pic with guns she's a isis spy back here

In this interview she really worked hard to avoid any responsibility for her own actions. The UK should ask the US if they have a space for her at Guantanamo Bay.

@kalyaninagarajah5137

3 ай бұрын

So true

So she blames a man with whom her relationship broke. Wow

This is a near perfect example of saying what she thinks other people want to hear.

@mrr4975

3 ай бұрын

and you know that how? Are you able to read her mind?

@kdlofty

3 ай бұрын

@@mrr4975Mind? No. Body language, speech pattern, phraseology, cadence and inflection yes. Oh and a dose of common sense.

@The_World_Champion.

3 ай бұрын

@@kdlofty Excellent rebuttal 👏👏

I dont think she knows what grooming is or she figured out to say "i was groomed" to deflect the blame.

Groomed as a 24 year old grown adult? Let’s be honest why do women try to absolve themselves of responsibility all the time

@danifranc7011

3 ай бұрын

Why did men create this network in the first place!?

She’s a very dangerous person. I don’t believe she was groomed. All I heard in this interview was “me me me.”

I was watching some documentary around the foster system in UK. I was surprised that muslim families are given responsibility of non muslim kids who vulnerable and can be easily radicalised. Always remember that you are nothing to them if you are not a muslim.

@GypsyChlo

2 ай бұрын

That is heartbreaking, but unsurprising .

She blames everybody but herself

@cannotfindmyshoes3

3 ай бұрын

I hope she didn't blame me, I don't even know her.

@natalionet

Ай бұрын

@@cannotfindmyshoes3 🤣🤣

@layletts7888

25 күн бұрын

It’s part of their culture. Always blame others

U didn't think it's dangerous before go that place and join with that people . OMG , wtf , she literally make us fool .

I don't trust her, i was 14 and always on the internet playing silly games and men always asked me for things, trying to get me thing but i was switched on enough to know the signs, needs to start at school the warning signs/

@GypsyChlo

2 ай бұрын

I was groomed sexually by grown men as a teenager - not all teenagers do know of the dangers.

“Groomed into joining ISIS” is a very convenient excuse she successfully used to get back in. She went there because she chose to.

She lived on my street when I was young. I actually knew her family and went into her house two or three times, I was friends with her family then. Can’t believe she ended up here.

@michaelhein2914

3 ай бұрын

where are her parents fro ?

@irandude1655

3 ай бұрын

She is a little celebrity now done press tour. lol

@MM.-qo7pk

8 күн бұрын

Pakistani origin

she should be locked up more than 3 years

I am not a UK citizen but still I feel something's not right here.she should be confined in jail,why is she on tv? hasn't people in UK heard about sleeper cells or anything like that?

At 15 years old, vulnerable or not.. you know what you’re doing. When I was 15 the police pulled me over for not wearing a helmet and I’ve never fucked with the law since 😆 . She knew what she was getting into, she intentionally went to a war.

@joshf-w9602

3 ай бұрын

She wasn’t 15, she was 24 and already had a child who she also took over to Syria

She is herself a danger for other people.

The hosts were gracious to her. Much appreciated!

Also, before labelling as ‘grooming’ we need to know true details of the exchange. Same way she concealed the fact she had approached the terrorist until asked. You can say grooming now, but what’s the facts?

She should never be allowed to walk the streets. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Traitors have to have some consequences to discourage them from betraying their country.

the apeal for most of these girls was scratching the itch in their lady bits!

This interview is an example that how media can have too cheap intentions,!

@Bpositive5464

Жыл бұрын

Why do you make a interview with an enemy of the state,?

@malihahan

Жыл бұрын

You have obviusly misunderstood the subject within this interview. Holly and Phil are interviewing this woman because SHE wants to warn others of the highly mistake she did and went through.

@charicole7745

Жыл бұрын

You can’t trust these monsters!

@abbieeeshaw7879

Жыл бұрын

Are you mad…she wanted to join ISIS

This looks like having a snake in the garden!

“I knew it was a war torn country but I didn’t get it until I got there..” … what??? 🧐🧐🧐 I get how that Tide pod challenge kicked off.

I really think that they need to treat these women as victims of a cult. The way they were groomed online, most of the women had risk factors even if they grew up in the West. The whole experience really reminds me of so many cult stories that I have heard. I am not saying that those involved of criminal activity should not be prosecuted or repay society in some way, but I think that given the youth of so many of them and their stories, they are as much victims of ISIS as anyone. Think of how many times many of them were forced to marry again and again. They were baby machines. It was a horrific experience and I think that we should at least include the cultish aspects of ISIS in their evaluations, treatment, and consequences.

@hearmeoutbro

9 ай бұрын

They knew what they were doing was wrong. They’re not victims.

@jlopez5289

8 ай бұрын

PREACH!!

@kdlofty

7 ай бұрын

What about men who are radicalised/groomed?

@jlopez5289

7 ай бұрын

@@kdloftythe same applies. You’re young, you’re impressionable, easily misguided and misled. Can’t condone the actions young radicalised men go on to do but vital to understand the CORE ISSUES at play and susceptibility/vulnerability to falling prey to ‘recruiters’

@moomin534

3 ай бұрын

No they shouldn't. Beheadings are not part of the average cult.

Her picture with Ak47 😂😂😂😂

Liar liar pants on fire

Alot of people calling it out saying how is it grooming. Maybe in western culture it's so easy to define your individualism and set yourself apart.... in Islam it is definitely not like that even the way you brought up its completely different, whether secular or religious there is a tie to Islam. So when you start to be part of a community that's more radical and these people are telling you to be more involved getting you emotionally riled up without the facts of a situation, coax them to come to a country that they know nothing of, they trust them because it's the fight for Islam, why would my brothers and sisters would want to hurt me? We follow the same faith. Also look up "grooming", it includes young person as well.

Being aware of the dangers of joining ISIS. Good that this was brought to light.

None of them thinking about wanting to be back when they knew ISIL is killing innocent people... They only thinking about coming back when their lives is in danger...

This sort of "victim card" that people all play these days is very disturbing. This lady should have got minimum 15 to 20 years if they decided to let her in to the UK. I am glad they did not allow Shamima Begum back. Everyone plays the victim card. So who is the main person who will take responsibility and accountability for anything?

As a British Muslim born in a liberal yet cultural family, you know what is right and wrong. There is a plethora of information and guidance of Islam of what is the correct path than ever before. There are countless positive Muslim role models around the globe who don’t propagate Jihad. Islam is a peaceful way of life for those of understanding and focuses on healing yourself by submitting to Allah not by blowing yourself and others up. The Quran & Sunnah demonstrate that. May Allah swt guide her and others and us all ameen

@saradielli7490

3 ай бұрын

Very beautifully and eloquently put. I just wish all of the narrowly minded xenophobic non Muslim British individuals saw it in this light. The truth of healing and peaceful way of life through faith in Islam. Although I am slowly learning acceptance and understanding I can't spread goodness everywhere in the world. I have the utmost respect for people of faith. I have a history of vulnerability from family neglect and other aspects of British society resulting in multiple complex trauma. However, I have very high personal values of humanity, empathy and human equality. Although in an unstable upbringing and life I could not bring myself join an extreme ideology. Some people due to psychology individual differences are more easily persuaded or vulnerable or brainwashed to go down the wrong path. I can't judge a person because I haven't lived their life experiences or mental states to truly understand what got them to such a dark place. Perhaps in this case they can ask for tawbah and that would be a direct matter between them and Allah swt. However, I am a true believer that British officials have let the youth and children down far too often. In the case of Shamima Begum, Britain let 3 young teenagers board a flight to Turkey - which is well known to facilitate or look the other way at these things. Teenagers obviously Muslim, and generally speaking whose parents tend to be stricter and wouldn't allow that. So something dodgy was going on. They should have been stopped at the airport, interrogated with an adult present, and security and counterterrorism police called. Put to an intense deep rooted De-radicalisation programme and counselling. It is not Syria's or another country's responsibility. Born in Britain and / or Nationality of Britain - Britain's responsibility. We harbour far more dangerous criminals in the U.K. and look the other way at them. Corruption is everywhere. These girls / women haven't physically murdered or committed worse to someone. I apologise for my very long winded response - I just find you and a small minority of people on here are the only decent ones. I send you blessings and peace!

@qasmb1546

3 ай бұрын

*Except the quran and sunnah demonstrate the opposite.* And we can never deal with the problem when liberal believers like you refuse to acknowledge this and want to live in la la land pretending its all about peace.

@qasmb1546

3 ай бұрын

*Except it doesn't and actually demonstrates the opposite.* And we can never deal with the problem when liberal believers like you refuse to acknowledge this and want to live in la la land pretending its all about peace.

@qasmb1546

3 ай бұрын

@@saradielli7490 *Except it doesn't and actually demonstrates the opposite of peace.* And we can never deal with the problem when liberal believers like you refuse to acknowledge this and want to bury your head in the sand and pretend its all about peace.

@qasmb1546

3 ай бұрын

@@saradielli7490 *Except it doesn't and actually demonstrates the opposite of peace.* And we can never deal with the problem when liberal followers like you refuse to acknowledge this fact, and want to bury your head in the sand and pretend its all about peace.

yet they allowed her back in and not begum... that's giving out a great message to the rest of the people.

@navylaks2

Жыл бұрын

I'd say send her back to join Begum, in fact send all those Isis not cases back to those camps

I don't think they deserve any chance anywhere in the world...people should live with thier choices...it wasn't that she accidentally...teleported to somewhere she didn't want to...

Wikipedia claimed she lied to the judge and had encouraged ISIS type of violence and agenda. Not knowing what ISIS was about before traveling there with her baby and posted a photo with a gun and a smile with her baby, do these reporters just want to blindly trust her?

@saradielli7490

3 ай бұрын

Because all good debates start with "Wikipedia claimed..." 🙄 need to go educate yourself a tiny bit more.

I don't buy this at all. Once a terrorist always a terrorist. She should've been sentenced to life

Takes no responsibility, spouting pure lies and epitomises eveything wrong with the UK

I understand now why it's called Great Britain!😮

She couldn’t handle the heat in the kitchen

Vulnerability - stupidity.

Lucky for you despite what you said. A liar will always lie.

I don’t think she’s revealing all I think she skipped a lot of details out of this

She should not have been allowed to come back to UK - you will never know who gets poisoned with her presence in this country.

I wonder if she's at those marches...

she lies I wouldn't let her anywhere near me

So the grass wasn't greener and she decided to come back she wasn't groomed she knew what she was getting into

@MM.-qo7pk

8 күн бұрын

She wanted to sleep with radicals , she’s needs locking up again for 10 years !

Dangerous to keep ex isis .

Ngl you can't claim being groomed when you were in your mid 20s 😅

The amount of times she says ‘grooming process’ Go away

So in other words she is not normal and she is easily led and gullible.

@KillBilly13

8 ай бұрын

Was

@saichetanreddy2012

7 ай бұрын

@@KillBilly13 is

Yeah it was terrifying , oh here is a photo of me with a rifle a smile on my face😂😂.Yeah its a war torn country , thought i would lead a normal life. Convicted criminal.

Tareena Shakil is so eloquent, so engaging! I can't wait to see what she accomplishes in future! The best is yet to come!

@sebbosebbo9794

20 күн бұрын

she is the pure evil.... she is in complete denial and blame others as a full adult .. what a dangerous person.... absolute shame ...

Tutorial mode and still threw it away😂 i cant with humans 😂

I don't trust her at all

She should be in the same place as Shemima Begum

What is she even doing on that morning show and why is she even out?, she should be placed in the Tower of London

Well there are so many in UK and still lot of conversion going on in UK.

Funny how Shamima Begum didn't get the same break! This girl was older and Shamima was groomed as a teen along with 2 other girls.

@navylaks2

Жыл бұрын

Neither this crackpot nor Begum were innocent, send her back to join the others in the camps

@pinkmandymoo

10 ай бұрын

Shamima doesn’t even seem sorry though

@kaykhanom

10 ай бұрын

@@pinkmandymoo no she looks like a destroyed damaged person who wouldn't be when you've been groomed, married to a monster, seen your friends murdered (who were also groomed) endured several miscarriages, discrimination from the UK government and people and stripped of your citizenship in the only home country you knew. I'd say most people would be pretty dead inside and lost. No matter what way she apologises let's face it she's the wrong skin colour and the laws used to strip her of her citizenship is racist. If that was a Caucasian young teen would they they looking for ancestry in Europe to palm them off to? I doubt it. People wrote that girl off because she didn't fit the aesthetic!

The negative comments against her are appalling! If you've never been an emotionally vulnerable and socially isolated naive teenager, caught in a perfect storm of factors including grooming that lead you down path which you now deeply regret, you should probably reserve some modest silence. And what kind of society do you espouse where someone admits their wrong, serves time, does the necessary programs and now wants to offer help to ensure others don't do the same, and you still hold the past against them? Oh yes, contemporary British society. God, I miss the generation of my grand-parents when there was something called decency and forgiveness.

@tamashorvath5131

Жыл бұрын

well honestly being a terrorist and joining ISIS is far from stealing a pack of gums at the gas station this is not something you end up doing in a low moment. Back in your grandparents time UK had harsher punishments, you got soft (not personally). You don't forget to terrorists imo.

@davidklein8252

Жыл бұрын

So if, in WW2, someone had decided to spy for the Germans and then come back and said, "Whoops, sorry", everyone would have been fine? I doubt it.

@raywren4933

10 ай бұрын

She didn't join ISIS to go and "kill non-believers". She drowned herself in intense religiosity to overcome emotional distress, the kind of religiosity that can easily slide into ultra conservative fanaticism. ISIS happened to take advantage of that situation and groomed her. Most of the violence they were committing was usually explained to these kids as "fabricated western propaganda" and naive teenagers are hardly the type to do investigative journalism to double check.

@aleksandranedeljkovik5277

9 ай бұрын

Admits their wrong ? She joined the worst terrorist group ever, posing with pictures....she needs to be watched. Period. This is not a small mistake. She planned this. She planned this for a long time.

@saichetanreddy2012

7 ай бұрын

defending her is crazy

Warning to any one thinkg going there and thinking il be back no dont even think of that crime be grateful to uk we are safe and have everything

Anyone else find it odd that she’s not taken responsibility for her own actions and blaming someone else for her actions? Especially as she’s been through rehabilitation with psychiatrists etc

How did they let her back in ?

@kalyaninagarajah5137

3 ай бұрын

She shouldn't be let in. She was groomed is an excuse..she went as she was tempted about the situation. When the whole situation changed they want to come back with grooming as an excuse. She shouldn't have been let back home.

I'm surprised they sent her to prison. She was only there for 8 weeks. She clearly realized almost immediately that she had made a mistake. So many of these girls were promised a wonderful husband who would take care of them and envisioned themselves in this happy family. They didn't leave because they wanted to join a terrorist group they joined because of the promise of a happy life.

@nanakonadu-

4 ай бұрын

Why isn't it a happy life for them anymore? We all watch and hear major things going on in the news, she knew exactly what she was getting herself into. I'm surprised she only got three years. Stop pampering scorpions

@SOT233

3 ай бұрын

Happy life??? Everybody knew the crimes perpetrated by Isis then: beheadings, crucifixions, etc. That's what these ladies were complicit with. They wanted a "happy life" for them but didn't care if their husbands beheaded other people. We should stop making excuses for them.

@lolcinnamon

3 ай бұрын

The woman was 25 years old ffs

@assiahussein3225

2 ай бұрын

​@@nanakonadu- She her friend 😂

Is this the same thing as writing to psychopaths locked up in prison? Bad boys Islamic version. It’s no joke when doors one opens leads to the loss of innocent lives.

Sorry but she wouldn’t have even come back if she was given the life she was after, “sorry she got caught not because she means it” type of vibe, she blames everyone else but her self, I don’t buy it she’s good at saying what people want to hear, you don’t run to isis over a teenage relationship breakdown, I think it’s obvious what she was after and she’s only back because none of it went her way.

Social media 👎

Have we noticed that all isis fighters are going to syria via Turkey? Has anyone realized that isis closest friend is Turkey and we are doing nothing about it?

She is not a victim

No way.... 6 years ??? Shame

She wasent groomed she went alone she seen what isis was doing & she was brought up in Britain & took her child into that she dosent deserve to be let back in same as the other 1 that left to go join & shes blamingva failed relationship stop the lies shell still be working for yhem wait & see 😢😢

I don’t trust her, and I believe that when you are being groomed or forced into something you are the one who chooses to go over there

@captgaming2134

6 ай бұрын

@@swampcrypt okay. People like you want her to come back, do you think she’ll have any qualms about killing you.

It's not a mistake, it's a blunder! She made her bed and must lay in it!

I feel like there is something missing from her story--I feel she went there for a man…

I'm confused by this story. She says she was not talking/speaking with family and then said they are a really close family unit?! Not sure this story can be compaded to Shamina at all, she was a child. This woman needs some serious help and to take some accountability/understand why she was locked up 😅

Liar you said in a different interview you said to the pics it's me your looking for if anyone believed her when trained soldiers couldn't escape but she did with a small child come on

Is she now an ex- Muslim?

@layletts7888

25 күн бұрын

Good for her. I like her now. 😂

So she was allowed to come back, but you leave Shamima Begum to rot in Syrian camp?? Makes no sense