Do we have free speech in Britain? I'm not allowed to say...

@allencollins6031

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@kyleroy2226

Жыл бұрын

LL....very well put.

@tedhewitt677

Жыл бұрын

No

@HornedGod66

9 ай бұрын

...that immigrants ruined your big cities with crime.

@supergonk6485

8 ай бұрын

Bro better take this comment down before the constables show up at their dopr

I’ve lived in the UK for 60 years now, I am truly depressed and despondent at the direction that this country has taken, it’s complete madness. George Orwell must have had a crystal ball.

@leonardgibney2997

Жыл бұрын

It's far worse than anything Orwell could have dreamt up.

@martinabcbeers

Жыл бұрын

And when we read that at school ,it was under science fiction

@howardlambert121

Жыл бұрын

@@leonardgibney2997 Yeah... Someone should tell the Home Secretary that 1984 was a warning not an instruction book,

@leonbell5141

Жыл бұрын

They’ve stopped teaching Orwell in school…their teaching Marxism 🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

@brettmeikle

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. That Brexit fiasco being right at the forefront of it. The world is laughing!

Someone was stabbed at the top of my Street last week. The police still haven't found the low life criminal. No doubt too busy out arresting folks for saying words.

@peterholy953

Жыл бұрын

Criminals are too dangerous. It is much easier to go after ordinary people.

@TheRetroManRandySavage

Жыл бұрын

It happened inbetween a row of shops and traffic lights, in broad daylight. There are cameras all over the place.

@aynos629

Жыл бұрын

@Cannock Dogger don't be ridiculous pls. They do have other methods they don't only rely on witnesses. If they could catch criminals in the 20th Century, sure they can catch them now. If they try

@Theactivepsychos

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRetroManRandySavage so get a solicitor to access the cameras. Don’t leave it

@TheRetroManRandySavage

Жыл бұрын

@@Theactivepsychos I'm guessing the police have already done that. Surely they aren't that incompetent. 😂👍

Sending the police to investigate a joke, said by a comedian, at a paid event, is a clear sign that the government needs reform. Ask James Acaster.

@rogerwoodhouse7945

Жыл бұрын

@Cannock Dogger Are they 'duty bound' to solve real crimes?

@90sterrier86

Жыл бұрын

IT WOULD BE WORSE UNDER A LABOUR GOVERNMENT.

@rogerwoodhouse7945

Жыл бұрын

@@90sterrier86 Worse in what way?They would just continue the gradual decline of this country.Both parties have outstayed their welcome.Time for real change.For 'real men' to step up.

@90sterrier86

Жыл бұрын

@@rogerwoodhouse7945 totally agree mate. Worse in the way that they have gone too far left.

@joecarty8579

Жыл бұрын

It’s because the Government listen to screaming minority groups as opposed to the majority.

Free speech is at stake. People shouldn't be arrested for causing offence. The law needs to be changed if it allows the police to do this.

@iggle6448

Жыл бұрын

Well, common law reiterated in the Harry Miller case is that we don't have the right to be offended. There is no lawful case and I guess that's why they call it a non-crime and put the accused on watch lists - the legality of which is very dubious!

@iggle6448

Жыл бұрын

@Cannock Dogger 💯

@offshoretomorrow3346

Жыл бұрын

Edit required!

@jeremysmith8035

Жыл бұрын

its interesting that when politicians try to dictate speech they elect economically illiterate imbeciles such as truss

@billycorgan3934

Жыл бұрын

Discrimination against someone because it's gender is not constitutional in democratic countries. There is no free speech to discriminate and cause hate against a social vulnerable community.

The police come to tell tweeters to 'change their thinking'. It's not OUR thinking that's needs changing, it's THEIRS.

"The only question is... 'Are we on the right side of the Law'. " Not quite.... the Gestapo were 'on the right side of the law'... 'The Law' is merely the means by which those who hold power enforce their will.

@engledelaffety4380

Жыл бұрын

Excellent point

@derekscanlan4641

Жыл бұрын

the law is what those with power say it is

@ChiefWizard666

Жыл бұрын

The point that Harry was making referred to the law in England and Wales, as it was then and basically still is. He was on the right side of the law, the British 'Gestapo/Stasi' were proven to be on the wrong side of the law. Hence the judge making reference to the organisations in question.

@aliasofanalias7448

Жыл бұрын

Laws only exist in physics; these aren't laws, they're broken all the time

I find it barking mad that the UK police concern themselves with people who “like” videos or have a personal opinion.

@peterholy953

Жыл бұрын

Real criminals are too intimidating for police so they harass defenseless people. Smart. No?

@iggle6448

Жыл бұрын

@nicholas carter What do we mean by 'radicalised'?

@savannahglebe5165

Жыл бұрын

@nicholas carter Oh get a grip

@joecarty8579

Жыл бұрын

It’s not the Uk Police force as such, it’s an element within who have their own agenda.

@ianmcconnell5973

Жыл бұрын

@@joecarty8579 and yet.... those rank and file Police Officers gleefully go along with it all to put on display their acceptance and "woke" credentials. Enforcement of such madness is of course an easy path to cooking the books when it comes to statistics for crimes tackled or solved! Any Police Officer enforcing such madness is not worthy of the uniform they are wearing and should e removed from the force, from top to bottom.

This video is exactly why I'll never, ever have a Twitter account. I've survived nearly 4 decades without a Twitter account and I'll quite happily make do without one for the rest of my life.

@greenandpleasant5523

Жыл бұрын

Very sensible. It's a cesspit of spite and lies.

@angelawatson7740

Жыл бұрын

Twitter is based upon lies and algorithms that suppress the truth , endorsing lies and hate.

@bazsnell3178

Жыл бұрын

I'm not subscribed to ANY so-called Social Media sites. Somebody said, and it really hit home to me, that ''once on the Internet, always on the Internet''. A young girl who posted a picture of her breasts on TikTok 5 years ago could be refused a job now 5 years later. Unsubscribe right now from this madness.

@bertiewooster3326

Жыл бұрын

I have a Twitter account it's completely false they cannot track the real me impossible.

@mohammedjafer9265

Жыл бұрын

@@bertiewooster3326 keep telling yourself that

All good British humble British folk, should be mot thankful for this brave courageous gentleman.

@AleXoEx0

Жыл бұрын

He's not even taking a stance, it's just a fairly balanced investigation.

I remember the Liverpool police poster saying 'being offensive is a crime'. That left them red faced!

@leonardgibney2997

Жыл бұрын

It's the police who're offensive.

Some of these British police officers need to lose their jobs.

@davidmarsden2012

Жыл бұрын

Haha understatement

@somebody9825

Жыл бұрын

firing people for political reasons sounds orwellian

@robertferguson851

Жыл бұрын

@@somebody9825 Restricting people's freedom of speech also sounds Orwellian.

@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098

Жыл бұрын

All of them need to. ABOLISH THE BRITISH POLICE! The people should defend themselves instead, they would do a much better job and without police they would actually be able to defend themselves without getting arrested and going to jail

@TheSapphire51

Ай бұрын

No its the politicans who make these laws that need to loose their jobs so people have to vote them out for this lunacy and their utter incompetence in running the country.

Incredible times we live in! The corruption, tyranny, and silencing of truth is out of control!!

Absolutely ridiculous! This isn’t policing!

The UK is stark raving bonkers!

I wonder why, after years of blocking comments, The Telegraph decides to allow comments on this video.

@Clodhopping

Жыл бұрын

Entrapment?

@richardc861

Жыл бұрын

Yes there is a motive in doing this, not sure it’s good

@angelawatson7740

Жыл бұрын

Simple. click bait.

@joecarty8579

Жыл бұрын

It’s because they have been suppressing free speech by muting comments but they might feel hypocritical doing it on this video.

@xinpingdonohoe3978

Жыл бұрын

Because there would be an ugly irony with them limiting speech on a video about free speech.

The only response to offensive speech is MORE speech.

@JJONNYREPP

Жыл бұрын

'I was arrested over a meme' Britain's free speech crisis explained 1807pm 1.9.22 so yer gonna post stuff on social media which people will be aware of ie: they'll know if they'll be offended by said post or not....................... and yet they can force themselves to watch the post and then claim they've been offended..?????

@raquetdude

Жыл бұрын

I shall spread loads of false information and then ppl will have to spend months trying to explain how what I said is wrong. More speech doesn’t help because that doesn’t have to be factual…

@onemoreminute0543

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, we can't engage in censorship otherwise we'll betray our standards. MORE speech is the antidote to offensive speech - that, and education

@gleelights9525

Жыл бұрын

Decocq

The whole world is going nuts

@somebody9825

Жыл бұрын

that's fine, because I like nuts...

@gleelights9525

Жыл бұрын

@@somebody9825 🌝🚂🚋🚃🚋🚃🚋🚃

We're all living in a free world. In Britain we're free as long as we do as we're told!

@xinpingdonohoe3978

Жыл бұрын

And if we don't, we get free accommodation with free food and a free bed.

@somebody9825

Жыл бұрын

I like doing what I'm told😳 but I also like being naughty😳

@charlesstewart9246

Жыл бұрын

@@somebody9825 there's a story in that statement🤫 don't we all like a little naughtiness 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍😇😳

All speech should be allowed. Especially offensive speech. That's the whole point of "free"

Not to share controversial opinions? Who defines a controversial opinion? Should only one person's objection be sufficient for the police to act? Look by definition when someone says something not everyone will agree. So, are we not say anything because someone will disagree?

@joecarty8579

Жыл бұрын

Well the so called Fact Checkers seem to have a lot of control on internet material and certain groups band together to control comments.

People have taken the word 'offence' with it's two meanings out of context ... to take offence does NOT mean a crime has been committed against a person! The line has been crossed when to be offended is to be a victim of a crime! Of course, explicit threats from one person against another is criminal, but a general comment against a group, however distasteful is not and should never be illegal ... it's not about limiting just one form of discourse ... it's an erosion of open society and a step towards autocracy.

I likely disagree with Harry Miller on many things but I'll stand up and defend his right to say them.

The online safety bill needs changing, the only thing that should be took seriously, is; scams, threats, because the fact is their is always going to be someone who is offended at something.👍 Freedom of speech should not be restricted

@foxfx8340

Жыл бұрын

@MrMarkoos1 Or harassment, because people that do that like to push it up until a point that they know they can get away with...

@phonixfighter7966

Жыл бұрын

@@foxfx8340 define Harrasment.

@winifredherman4214

10 ай бұрын

​@@foxfx8340LOL

Great that police knows their priorities. Putting a law abiding citizen in handcuffs is much easier than a criminal. Is this why 90% of burglaries go unsolved.

I'm glad to see the Telegraph are reporting on this. The Police need to be sued into oblivion over this.

@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098

Жыл бұрын

That’s not going to really work considering the justice system and police are literally on the same side both government institutions with the same goals

@williamrisbridger60

11 ай бұрын

The police don’t make laws

@kingkoi6542

9 ай бұрын

The UK is a communist utopia. Katanga has been brought to Britain

The UK is beyond laughable at this point !

@brettmeikle

Жыл бұрын

Pal, it's been beyond laughable since June 2016.

What a pathetic mess this country has become!

Free speech is selective isn’t it . Some things or specifically a very specific group are immune to any criticism …. Meanwhile try and call the police after a burglary or if your car has been nicked off your drive …..

@AleXoEx0

Жыл бұрын

Oy vey!

@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098

Жыл бұрын

Die Juden!

A few weeks ago the Guardian had an article about how we needed STRICTER speech laws, but after protestors were arrested for saying mean things to Prince Andrew they ran an article about how important Freedom of Speech is. A lot of people here are very blasé about laws against free speech until the tide shifts and they themselves become the target. It's incredibly important that this isn't a partisan issue. Free speech shouldn't be the fight of any one side, it benefits everyone.

@karmar22able

2 ай бұрын

Typical hypocritical Guardian.

This shows how ridiculous police action is. Our Home Secretary Patel is ultimately responsible..

Who would of thought that Monte python would be passing laws.

stabbings, shootings...nah just arrest people for tweeting and dance with pride carnival

Ridiculous what's become of The UK

@scratchy1704

Жыл бұрын

Wokeness.

Yes, as an American this is unthinkable... In the US we make memes of this 😂

@MrThe1234guy

9 ай бұрын

For now America is next.

@bryanbradley6871

9 ай бұрын

@@MrThe1234guy pshhh free speech is an absolute guaranteed right in the US

@MrThe1234guy

9 ай бұрын

@@bryanbradley6871 Obscenity, compelled speech incitment, fighting words are not protected.

What about the Police Officer who got a *prison sentence* for a meme about George Floyd? One life ruined over a *joke* .

Asks the channel with commentary blocked 90% of the time ^^

These officers participating in this injustice are pathetic. Free speech doesn’t exist in Europe or Canada.

I’m offended that people can go to the police for being offended… what should I do?

@jaymac7203

Жыл бұрын

Report it to the police? 😭 lol

I find this appalling. Welcome to North Korea.

The malicious telecommunications act should be repealed.

FREE SPEECH IS A RIGHT, NOT A POLITENESS, BUT A MORAL RIGHT. NO FREE SPEECH 🟰 DICTATORSHIP! POWER TO THE PEOPLE NOT JUST THE PRIVILEGED. WHAT IS A DEMOCRACY FOR? THERE ARE MORE OF US THE PEOPLE THAN THEM AND THATS WHAT TODAYS WORLD IS; US VERSUS 🆚 THEM!!!

@Victoria-hz3gx

Жыл бұрын

@Cannock Dogger xx 😘

Im bald, white and a bit short. I get ripped regularly, I dont ring the police when this happens. Though I might do.

Arresting people for causing "hurty feelings"!? FFS!

The lady barrister gave a very impressive exposition of the problem of 127 of the communications act. She should be addressing parliament.

FREEDOM NEEDS TO BE FOUGHT FOR

The UK has never had free speech. There is no equivalent of the first amendment in UK law. Article 10 of the Humans Rights Act grants the right to freedom of expression, but paragraph 2 places open ended restrictions and conditions on free speech in the interests of national security, public safety, and for the protection of health and morals (whatever that means).

@radicalcartoons2766

Жыл бұрын

Another good reason why we need to stop tinkering with the patchwork quilt of exiisting legislation, come out of the Human Rights Act and the ECHR, and rewrite it in our own law, which was what we were promised with Brexit.

@roadhigher

Жыл бұрын

@@radicalcartoons2766 The problem is our constitution, in the fact that we have none. Whilst normal, sane countries have codified, comprehensive, single document Constitutions which lay out basic principles and rights that can't be infringed on, our "Constitution" is a collection of random laws from the 1600's up to today, that can be overwritten at will by Parliament with zero checks and balances.

@briantitchener4829

Жыл бұрын

It means morals. Principles of right and wrong. Not difficult to understand.

@iggle6448

Жыл бұрын

@@roadhigher Welll....when I was at school all pupils across the UK had lessons called British Constitution and it all made good sense. There's been a surreptitious effort to disinform later generations about it. It's not just random laws. It's a coherent collection of common law, statutes, declarations, letters patent, treaties and so on. Some common law dates back 1000yrs, and the Magna Carta in all its versions is c. 1215. Shockingly, Bliar' s gvt set a trend for toppling some important ancient and good laws (like habeas corpus and double jeopardy (in some circs). But I would argue that there are checks and balances.

@dan79600

Жыл бұрын

​@@briantitchener4829 Well done, but I wasn't questioning the definition of morals. I was subtly pointing out how the wording of the Act could be open to more than one interpretation.

All “hate” and “diversity” legislation needs to be repealed and replaced by a new Bill of Rights to enshrine everyone’s rights & obligations on the same footing, and to assert freedom of speech.

Well, the Rainbow Stasi is here. The Trans thought police.

I listened to the Alex Bellfield ‘Stalking’ trial, and was entirely confident that there was NO case to answer ( the BBC’s own internal correspondence stated that no one was going to come to ANY harm from Bellfield’s emails , mostly Freedom of Information requests . Unbelievably , they managed to get him prosecuted ( but NOT , thankfully , silenced) I am not a Bellfield fan, but I dislike his would be oppressors more than anything he has said or written about any of his ‘victims’ .

@robwalker3417

Жыл бұрын

He literally sent Jeremy Vine thousands of emails (not FOI requests) after being asked multiple times to cease, the very definition of harrassment and the very reason a jury found him guilty. Bellfield does not deserve your support, he is a deranged individual and a criminal. He was the oppressor and the jury agrees.

@gleelights9525

Жыл бұрын

Bzzzzzt!!! Goes the buzz light year night light!!

The real question is “Is social media really good for society or just good for the tech giants?”

@savannahglebe5165

Жыл бұрын

It definitely needs banning. Shut all these snowflakes and their pathetic,nonsense,attention seeking platforms down.

@rogerwoodhouse7945

Жыл бұрын

Social media is good for hearing different opinions (free speech)

@joecarty8579

Жыл бұрын

Social Media is designed to propagate extreme left view points while at the same time suppressing popular opinion. It’s actually a form of control, hence why I deleted FB years ago.

@colingregson8653

Жыл бұрын

The latter how many times is social media used to organise real crime !!.

@propergander1162

Жыл бұрын

Stasi was a communist concept Facebook was an American concept 🤔

Everything in this country is now policed-except crime.

@somebody9825

Жыл бұрын

yeah, thats how I threw a brick through your window and got away with it

Bad taste isn’t against the law. The lads who made a grenfell tower model and set it on fire shouldn’t have been charged either.

Can I find someone who finds me offensive ,offensive ? Why should I not enjoy the prerogative of a final judgement ?

That's why America is better because their 1st amendment is non negotiable and it doesn't depend on a hereditary monarch's whim.

Now coming to Australia too. What a clown world. So ashamed to be living in this timeline.

Does this mean as I am offended by Truss being in power and everything she says as I am offended can she be arrested for a non crime offence? Seeing as she is an actual criminal along with the rest of our government it would be interesting to find out.

In answer to your question, a big fat "Yes".

I can remember one Mayor of London, who happened to be of Jewish descent, telling me a very risqué joke about the holocaust, and he did it all the time.

The more worrying attack on speech is not online, it's in the streets. The government is attacking the right to protest which is far more important than online nonsense.

The Police would rather investigate non crimes rather the burglars

@angusmacfrankenstein7227

Жыл бұрын

Maybe it’s that “no sidearms thing…”

@angelawatson7740

Жыл бұрын

Firstly it is an eighty year old law. If the Police weren't doing their jobs why do we have overflowing prisons

@andrewgilbertson5356

Жыл бұрын

@@angelawatson7740 A lot of folk should not be in prison.

@gleelights9525

Жыл бұрын

Di.. Rawwwberrrrs... Di.. Rawwwberrttss

Free speech has gone and we need to understand this and I don't know when or if it will ever return 🤔 I hope so

Turns out Tommy Robinson was 100% correct about his predictions of the UK's downward spiral.

@shaheedbhaghatsingh3974

Ай бұрын

He was a 100% right about pakistani abdool groomong gongs as well. The entire country is affected by this

I knew they weren't free when people got arrested for asking them to abolish the monarchy

So when the guardian 7 times ran innacurate derogatory stories about police did if incite violence towards police as hate speech?

Offence these days usually consists of merely expressing your opinion and when that opinion is at odds with the social / media "current thing" being pushed, then that's when we see the shouts of "I'm offended"! I have always stuck by my belief that "opinions are like a**eholes, we all have one" and if someone's opinion differs from mine then we have the opportunity for debate, not criminalisation or bullying to push one side of the argument. The term "non-crime crime" is so nonsensical it beggars belief that any right minded person would even quote it, let alone a police officer. It's simply a bullying tactic thought up to enforce a single viewpoint and maintain today's "thought crime" agenda.

@vanpallandt5799

Жыл бұрын

What about comments glorifying terrorism

@phonixfighter7966

Жыл бұрын

@@vanpallandt5799 100℅ free Speech

@vanpallandt5799

Жыл бұрын

@@phonixfighter7966 fair enough..i see a fair few on right who like left, are subjective on that

Just ask Julian Assange

I am NHS Keyworker… I WAS EVICTED by North Ayrshire Council ON LOCKDOWN DAY 11am 24.03.2020 to a Lockup Garage… As I was dealing with an Emergency at NHS ….I Am Dyslexic….🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💀…..time

Free Julian Assange 💙

Ironically I was expecting comments to be turned off. Although even when on we're extremely limited on what we can say without youtube removing them..

I wish I had the vocabulary to express how little I care about the "offence" of these people.

@davedixon2068

Жыл бұрын

that is exactly the problem, people not caring about how others feel, listen to yourself

I just wish the police would do their actual job, cracking crime but they hardly ever do and I've realised why but I'm not going to say why sorry

@pauln7422

Жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people know why. All by design.

It's getting to a point where it might be better to get off all social media.

Woohoooo! For the judgment.

How does the police have time for this with all the stabbing, drug traficking , white collar crime etc ? What are they paid for?

We now have the thought police. George orwell.

Free speech is long gone.

Hopefully people see freespeech is absolutely important, I want people to be themselves, I want to hear/see what people really think. I want to be allowed to hear/see jokes/pov's that hurt feelings. Why does the telegraph not allow comment sections usually?

Arresting people is far more offensive than any meme.

The truth is a absolute defense

That's my issue here. We need controversial opinions or views. Am I missing something here? Controversial and offensive have the same definition by law?

Even Hungary is less snowflake and Italy has got a proper leader now

@jlall4467

Жыл бұрын

England is f'd with the 2 party system. The conservative party is just labour lite, so really in the uk it is pretty much a 1 party system. Other countries have a chance for better government though

@gleelights9525

Жыл бұрын

Huh huh harrah arch shape piece on plane ride

This is crazy. This is utterly shocking as an American. We may get fired and cancelled, but the first amendment is still standing thank God

@gqqq5042

6 ай бұрын

There's already been anti free speech legislation passed in the United States unfortunately. Give it some time and we'll probably be like Britain.

WELL DONE TO THIS MAN 👏 👏 👏 👏

i didn't think they HAVE freespeech in the uk.

I would have thought the answer to that question was obvious! NO.

If only people would have listened years ago....

I find the police action OFFENSIVE. I demand they be arrested.

I Australia in 2015 I made a comment in a FB group I was a member of which was misinterpreted by a member. Few days later the coppers called on my phone saying someone (no name) had denounced me because of my "offensive" comment. They were cool about it though, and I'm sure that by the tone of the officer's voice he was not in on this nonsense. He just "doing his job". I decided to leave FB and twitter a couple of years later. Best thing I've done.

Report the police’s actions as grossly offensive.

The Thought Police have arrived

The problem is too many cops and not enough crime..I highly doubt they catch actual criminals..real crime doesn't pay them..but tickets and small infractions do pay

It's a human right so why aren't we receiving any of our human rights?

Jeez this is Orwellian!

I like this guy that just doesn’t care. As an American this is frightening.

Well done for fighting for our right to free speech

HURRAY !!!!!! WELL DONE - our world is going totally mad and nobody understands what is happening.

That was a very good piece

GOVERNMENTS DON'T HAVE TO IMPEDE FREE SPEECH TO FIGHT HATE. EXACTLY 💯

Top lad. He knows that was more than just a victory for him.