YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW GOOD TIM DUCAN WAS

@iBe_Vybin

Ай бұрын

Unc was losing it

@dyvma

Ай бұрын

Unc really been going thru it these last weeks😂😂😂

@brody9019

Ай бұрын

Fr

@Chadzmuth

Ай бұрын

@@LegoFilms511 It’s a meme lol

@steviechampagne

Ай бұрын

chill bro you didn’t even watch the video

jimmy is so good at constructing arguments that he could say Javale McGee was the goat and I’d somehow end up agreeing with him… 😂

@ryankayombya7576

Ай бұрын

Sheep mentality

@managed9348

Ай бұрын

Did you just admit that you’re a sheep?

@jacobbrownfootballhighligh3425

Ай бұрын

No

@lemoninzest17

Ай бұрын

@@ryankayombya7576fr hahaha, these guys think he’s proving something with those meaningless charts, jimmy changes his narrative every video

@Mr-Dr-Payne

Ай бұрын

Dawg I haven’t seen you since 2020

It's ironic how a video that's about "bad takes" is sponsored by a betting site. 100/10

@bilalprob

19 күн бұрын

Money is money

@MasterBepis

15 күн бұрын

@@bilalprob fair

Timmy was one Ray Allen shot from not only having 6 rings but having a full sweep of LeBalco James in the finals.

@FalconPaladin

Ай бұрын

I also think the fact that the Spurs haven't done jack shit since Duncan left them maybe argues he had more to do with their success than Pop or the organization.

@ukog6048

Ай бұрын

Yeah but it happened tho.. that's like saying GSW would've have win the 2016 finals if LeBron didn't block Andre

@tyjes-dg7gl

Ай бұрын

@@FalconPaladinyea let’s jus forget that the rest of the big 3 also retired and after duncan retired their best player left after they made the wcf and were up 20 against the avenger warriors before kawhi got hurt in 2017 (without tim duncan) shut yo ass up

@Lebronscome

Ай бұрын

@@FalconPaladin orrr u know... the rest of that team also aging and leaving?

@cannacare777

Ай бұрын

Ray Allen saved lebrons legacy wouldn't even be in top ten other wise

Wemby is 20. This f-ery won’t go on for much longer. Thank God!

@zbysix

Ай бұрын

I was like, man he gonna be in goat debate but I forgot about longevity, I agree, but, if I want the best team for 10 years wemby is definitely my first pick

@brianmevs

Ай бұрын

@@micahheyward5342that’s quite literally the joke brother

@nathaniel4146

Ай бұрын

huh? corny ass comment. bro dont even know the context of this statement

@mrmoopster5702

Ай бұрын

@@micahheyward5342yeah thats what hes referebcing

@Wickery.

Ай бұрын

@@micahheyward5342it went over your head Micah

The KZread algorithm has to be confused AF considering I watch NO other sports content. But by god, it KNOWS your video gets top slot.

@z.r.r4593

Ай бұрын

Check out baseball doesn’t exist

@howaboutthis9233

Ай бұрын

​@@z.r.r4593 fr, don't play baseball, don't watch it and I think it's boring, religiously watch that man tho

@michaelhutchings8599

Ай бұрын

​@@howaboutthis9233 Ay! BDE is one of the best YTers out there. I'm Australian. Baseball doesn't exist in this country, but I've watched 95% of his video's 😂

@wedabestradi096

Ай бұрын

I hate baseball, love that channel...its funny because until now i was sure i was the only one​@howaboutthis9233

@dinocarpetner7742

Ай бұрын

Channel: GOAT is 🔥

Y’all forgot that Tim Duncan never missed the playoffs in his whole career, and every single season the Spurs were a 50+ win team. Both of those are NBA records. I don’t think it’s outlandish to have Tim Duncan as high as Top 5.

@hasbulla1308

Ай бұрын

He’s not saying Tim Duncan was overrated as a player, his point emphasizes that timmy has become overrated in the all time rankings as how I perceive it. While timmy was good, he was just not the “Best Player on the League” type guy for some years. Note that I said SOME not EVERY YEAR. Jimmy states that he is a beneficiary of the Spurs System and that is a fact because let’s be honest. You would not pick Tim Duncan over Kareem, Hakeem, and Shaq or players of that caliber. While timmy is the system, and you could not replace any other player in his spot he’s just not that DOG if you know what I mean which matters in this all time rankings in jimmy’s case of course. For instance in 2007 nba finals when Tony Parker won the finals mvp, why didn’t Tim Duncan win it? What’s his reasons? I mean the Spurs played against a sub par finals team. Or what about when they lost to an 8th seed on 2011? I mean would a 60 win team with shaq lose to an 8th seed? I don’t think so. That’s what I mean when he is an beneficiary of the Spurs System because although he’s the head and he created it, some players on the all time rankings are the SYSTEM. Like I said earlier you could not replace timmy within the system but for instance he doesn’t have HOF teammates, can he go on a tear like KG did? Can he do what Dirk did? Nah. Although timmy is great and he is a TOP 10 player of all time, he just doesn’t crack the top 5 for many reasons.

@hasbulla1308

Ай бұрын

Ps just explaining jimmy’s point not trying to get into an argument

@andresmacias4229

Ай бұрын

@@hasbulla1308 buddy what the actual fuck are you talking about. TIM DUNCAN IS THE SYSTEM. To never miss the playoffs in your whole 17 year career and to win 50+ games in every one of those seasons speaks for volumes of how dominant Tim Duncan really was. No player you just listed is in that conversation period. You take Tim Duncan out of San Antonio and I guarantee you the Spurs don’t win a single title. The fact that you’re sitting and believing the words coming out of your mouth is blasphemy. “Not that dOG” that “DOG” has done stuff no one will ever come close to doing again. That “DOG” found the fountain of youth and was able to be productive through is long career and was always a key asset to the team’s success even in the twilight of his career. That “DOG” was a *5× NBA champion * 3× NBA Finals MVP * 2× NBA Most Valuable Player * 15× NBA All-Star * 10× All-NBA First Team * 3× All-NBA Second Team * 2× All-NBA Third Team * 8× NBA All-Defensive First Team * 7× NBA All-Defensive Second Team * NBA Rookie of the Year * NBA All-Rookie First Team Tim Duncan is better than Kareem, he’s better than Hakeem, he’s better than KG and he’s certainly better than Dirk. You can basically alternate between Shaq and Duncan for all I care. I find it laughable that people try to discredit what Tim Duncan and the Spurs have done when all they did was play basketball the way it was supposed to be played. Tim Duncan was not a “System Player” he was the System, and everybody else just revolved around him.

@theplug193

Ай бұрын

cs his team was amazing lmao 😂 he's not top 5

@andresmacias4229

Ай бұрын

@@theplug193 you’re stupid. He made every single one of his teams great. Bum take. With your logic every player that was on a good team isn’t top 5. Casual 💀

You explain everything so well and keep the point clear. Thank you.

“Corners are usually set shots to a wide open man” Klay: sprinting to the corner to take a leaning off balance 100% contested three for the millionth time

@TwistedForHire

Ай бұрын

And then he misses the next 6 wide open 3s. (warriors fan salty about his constant slumps)

@G-Lew

Ай бұрын

@@TwistedForHire He may be playing like shit right now. But at least 3 out of them 4 rings never would have happened without him. There is no curry without klay, he is exactly how pippen was for jordan.

@rasanchenault9907

Ай бұрын

Key word usually

@kingexclusivo

Ай бұрын

@@G-LewFacts all these casual fans have the memory of a goldfish, either that or they’re really ungrateful

@MrSuperman957

Ай бұрын

@@G-Lew True but he's still annoying with his shot selection. Your past greatness does not excuse poor decision making

Some commentator said of the Warriors in 2017 finals, along the lines of "The Cavs need to play absolutely perfect to win any games. The Warriors need to play average to sweep". I'm a die hard LeBron fan but that team was unbeatable. No team outside of all-star teams had a chance against them. Super high scoring, efficient, AND solid defense. Only Draymond could destroy that team.

@markjhonmcpaste

Ай бұрын

💯

@jasonvargas4798

Ай бұрын

So the spurs giving them wits and the rockets before CPs injury just didn't happen huh?

@cyrilspencer6689

Ай бұрын

Spurs 2014 could have beat them, or at least made it a 7 games series

@tridra5714

Ай бұрын

The Cavs literally scored 82 in a single half in their only win of the series. That's what it took to get one win on that team

@CjComments

Ай бұрын

​@@tridra5714That's Crazy to think of , Man , I'm so glad that I witnessed them in that year , A Locked in "2017 Warriors" is Terrifying. 2014 Spurs is the only team that I think can win "Twice" against that team. (4-2)

Duncan was the system they got players that fit his game

@scottb3034

Ай бұрын

Except the fact that he wasn't the best play on that team for the last decade of that run. LOL

@colton6867

Ай бұрын

@@scottb3034 lol He was the undisputed best player on 4/5 championships and was still one of their top players for the last one. If you think otherwise then you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

@kaizel2264

Ай бұрын

​@@colton6867 Yeah he was like the 2nd/3rd Best player on the 5th Ring also He was the Best Player on the 2013 Spurs that blew the lead because of kawhi missing 10 free-throws 😂.

@scottb3034

Ай бұрын

@@colton6867 look at the finals MVP, those state otherwise. And arguably parker was better in 2007 beyond just the Finals MVP. He took a hit in production after he turned 28. He played another decade. Had he maintained the play he had his first 8 years for another 7 you can talk. Unfortunately he didn't. Duncan is beyond overrated. He'd be the 3rd best spur of all-time had kawhi stayed. And that's with him above gervin.

@colton6867

Ай бұрын

​@@scottb3034 You realize Andre Iguodala won a finals MVP in 2015 over Steph Curry right? You going to argue Iggy was the best player on the team? As far as the 07 championship there is no argument for Parker over Duncan, that statement is absurd. Duncan was 1st team All-NBA, and finished top 4 in MVP voting that year and was robbed of DPOY. There is no debate between him and Parker as to who was best on the team.. None. I don't even wanna argue Kawhi over Duncan. You honestly believe a guy who's lucky to play 50 games in a season is better than a guy who was winning MVPs and championships in Shaq and Kobe's prime with no other all-star on his team?

I like this video. You bold af with these takes bro lol. And you backed up what you were saying with stats as much as you could. Big respect.

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@TyBoS8

Ай бұрын

THAT’S CRAZY 😝😝😛🤑😝😳😲😯😯😲🤯🎉🎉

@TyBoS8

Ай бұрын

CRAZY 😯😯😳😲🤯😯😳😲🤯😯😲😲😳🤯🤯😳😳😲

@TyBoS8

Ай бұрын

That’s crazy

@_Mista_X

Ай бұрын

The fuck?

@Cheeks1232

Ай бұрын

🙏🙏🙏

The corner 3 was always the hardest shot to me. Never understood while everyone side the opposite

@Ignoranous

Ай бұрын

i played center in highschool. i couldn’t shoot a 3 for my life… unless it was a corner 3. they’re the easiest

@ShivanshEdla

Ай бұрын

Same; they always throw me off 🙁

@GeorgeInHerJungle

Ай бұрын

he literally showed the numbers in the video bro

@jgray2718

Ай бұрын

Agree. I always had trouble with getting the depth right. I'd rather shoot a slightly longer shot from up top. My best shot was always slightly off to the side near the top of the key; a little bit of angle on the board helped my depth perception a lot. I also always worried about stepping out of bounds in the corners.

@IcePhoen1x694

Ай бұрын

Yeah I saw that take and I immediately agreed. The problem abt coner threes is that it is either in or an airball. Non corner threes have swish, bank, better chance of bouncing off the rim, and more space to shoot

Solid hot takes. I agree with the 2017 Warriors case the most. Forget accomplishments, just a 7 game series....that's rough. Maybe Showtime Lakers is your best heads up shot and ironically point production can be an issue.

@scottb3034

Ай бұрын

1997 Bulls with Bison Dele. They have the scoring with Dele, they can go small without actually going small and their defense was way better than Golden State's.

I’m a Wemby stan but Magic had a FMVP without Kareem, Wilt averaged 37 & 27, and Wes was MVP. Maybe this century, but not all time

This guy needs to get on ESPN he’s very logical. I’d much rather listen to him than anyone on ESPN

@PushinP911

Ай бұрын

They have narratives to play, he is better off on KZread

@PremiumRaizo

Ай бұрын

Yeah but you don't know if he's also good on air. Preparing, Making and editing KZread videos is very different than being live. I'm not saying that he definitely can't, I'm just saying you can't assume he can make that transition.

@swaymcthunder1219

Ай бұрын

All these youtubers you like are much better off staying far away from espn. Like the guy above me said, it's all about narratives. Jj Reddick I think is a good example. I used to really love his podcasts, he always came off to me as a smart guy ( I never liked the guy as a player). He is an absolute clown on espn. Not sure if his podcasts are similar to what they once were, stopped listening, but the difference is night and day with the content.

@jamesonedwardsii4943

Ай бұрын

Nah Tim Legler is on ESPN

@ryanA133

Ай бұрын

Hxmy needs to get that top tier tnt money

I don’t hate the Wemby take, but I think its funny that he turned out to be this good after you had a whole video about tempering expectations of him at the beginning of the season.

@denisl2760

Ай бұрын

He's definitely going to have a few all time great seasons, but you still have to question the longevity. I'd bet he doesn't win any championships or MVPs or DPOYs after he turns 30.

@joshlien2118

Ай бұрын

@@denisl2760who knows but if his longevity continues he will be the goat. What he is doing as a rookie is incredible and if he keeps this up and improves into his prime and plays at this level or above for 15 seasons he would be top 5 easily

@olivoil2002

Ай бұрын

​@@denisl2760I don't think he'll slow down too much until those pesky mid 30s, can see him winning 10× DPOY and 8× MVP.

@antokarman2064

Ай бұрын

​@@denisl2760agreed, he has to absorb some of kareem longetivity if he want to win a championship after 30

@Jive33

Ай бұрын

Wendy being good from the very beginning was one of the easiest things ever to see happen. I’m no genius. I’m no basketball mastermind. It was just obvious as hell, that’s all.

I respect your opinion about the 2017 Warriors, and can see why you'd feel that way, but I just can't see the 1996 Bulls ever losing a series to ANY team.

Dude I don't even really follow basketball much at all but your videos are amazing. Wish we had someone like you for NHL content.

Anyone who says corner 3s are the easiest 3s to make has never picked up a ball in their life. When you’re in the corner the basket might as well be invisible, its so impossibly hard to have a good percentage as a everyday baller from corner 3. It takes crazy skill and practice to be consistent in the corner

@nitro292

Ай бұрын

it ain’t that hard not gone lie

@jaridatkinson4907

Ай бұрын

Nah corner 3 was my favorite tbh

@dhbball

Ай бұрын

Shot 40% from 3 in my college days, loved the corner and had a higher percentage from the corner.

@d_rod3

Ай бұрын

You thought u did something , didn't u

@benjimc1

Ай бұрын

I agree, corner three harder than the straight on or diagonal

I've watched your videos for years without leaving a comment. This is the one that gets me to do it. You are absolutely right about corner 3s.

@bennette.7033

Ай бұрын

Jesus loves you.

@Wodz30

Ай бұрын

leave more comments. join the community

@sandyellison8286

Ай бұрын

Please papi comment more often I love your engagement into our community bubba

@OliverWulff

Ай бұрын

no hes wrong, anyone that says they are hard is just not a shooter

@IIItachIII

Ай бұрын

@@OliverWulff Oliver please spend some time understanding what he's saying. He didn't say corner 3s are hard, he said they are not the easiest 3pt shoot on the court, and he also back its up with stats... and common sense to be honest.

The Duncan argument can also be said for Nowitzki people forget that he used to be seen as the same tier as Harden for years until 2011 (which is still an impressive run) but people forget it

@wedge5547

Ай бұрын

The reason Dirk is viewed the way he is is BECAUSE of what happened in 2011 not in spite of what happened of in 2011 He proved himself to be better than a Harden tier player during that playoff run

@petiteexplication6249

Ай бұрын

@@wedge5547 yes and no im not saying he wasnt good but people tend to waaaay overrate him this days im sorry but i cant see him as a top 15 player ever (some even put him just outside the top 10) in a way the same thing is also happening with Ginobli and people saying he was better than Nash flr exemple

@strahancd

Ай бұрын

@@petiteexplication6249not saying you’re lying but who’s saying manu > Nash😭😭 Nash has an MVP and that already eliminates any argument towards manu

@xraylegend2444

Ай бұрын

Almost everything he said during the Duncan segment could be used to describe Tom Brady who most people have as the greatest or second greatest of all time. Probably not an apples to apples comparison between NBA and NFL, but I find that interesting to think about.

@FlexSZN23

Ай бұрын

Ppl don’t forget it. The average of age of nba fans online is just getting younger. Older ppl just don’t have time to sit online and chit chat all so you get 14 year old basketball reference sleuths who start to rewrite history

Yea I could never shoot from the corner back when I played ball the wings and the top of the key were easier thanks to the backboard if needed

I think part of Tim Duncan's rise through the All-Time rankings is that he did it all for one team, which u don't think should matter, but gets in there subconsciously

@alexanderrichards8998

Ай бұрын

Imo though Tim Duncan's career is the best blueprint of what you want out of a 1st Overall Pick for your organization

@imhotepnixon

Ай бұрын

Also it helps his case the spurs quickly became a mediocre joke after he left

@martelljhixson

Ай бұрын

LeBron fan overrated Tim because he kept getting in Bron ahh 😂😂😂

@davis2k1234

Ай бұрын

@@imhotepnixonSpurs we’re the 2nd best team in the NBA in 2017 after he retired and might have won the title if Zaza didn’t injure Kawhi in WCF vs KD GSW and all they did was drop Duncan from the roster in the off season he was blessed to be in the best situation in the NBA and load managed and played light minutes the back have of his career

@OMG-si3wn

Ай бұрын

@@davis2k1234 that team was still heavily influenced by him, each year removed from him retiring they got more and more dog shi, people made this same mistake with brady and the patriots

If u play ball yk the corner 3 being the easiest is a complete lie

@lucacandelaria5084

Ай бұрын

As someone who plays basketball, the corner three is the easiest three pointer

@j0rbo

Ай бұрын

??? Quite literally the easiest bruh

@PrinceZakariyya

Ай бұрын

Facts

@ishyameru6232

Ай бұрын

@@j0rboeasiest is subjective “closest to the basket” is more accurate

@cawffee-rh1lf

Ай бұрын

it depends honestly, but you gotta have the right amount of power for a corner shot. not too many friendly bounces like the other spots around the arc

Totally agree with the corner 3 take, just from personal experience. Give me a top of the key 3 any day of the week.

I remember the video you made on wemby before anyone knew him and it just astonished me on how he can do everything already at such a young age and at THAT height and now to see him in the league thriving is amazing and for you to predict it is kinda crazy too 😭😭

I've seen Tim Duncan being put on the 5-8 spot on top ten lists for over a decade.

@hughjazz6300

Ай бұрын

I know friends that think his top 3-5. But 5-8 is very much a good spot for him

@jgray2718

Ай бұрын

I think 5 - 8 is okay. Certainly somewhere in the top 15, probably in the top 10, but higher than 5 seems like a stretch to me. Top 5 career I'd buy; top 5 player not so much.

@pigs6486

Ай бұрын

He is behind MJ, Lebron, Kareem, Shaq, Magic, and Hakeem by a safe distance. That’s 6 right there.

@ju_get_busy9140

Ай бұрын

@@pigs6486he’s better than magic

@abhrajitdhar4628

Ай бұрын

​@@pigs6486He's ahead of Hakeem (by far) but probably behind Bird. Bird has an underrated peak before his back.

"I'm taking WEMBENYAMA" sounds a lot to me like "GIVE ME IGOUDALA" Somewhere I hope that, like me, upon seeing this MJ took this personal

@detelina9365

Ай бұрын

with the fate of the universe on the line

@MoralesCorner

Ай бұрын

I WANT IGUOYAMA

@StevenSwanIII

Ай бұрын

MJ’s gonna take it personal and invest a billion into a time machine and average 36 his rookie year

@jdrmanmusiqking

Ай бұрын

Stop worshipping humans. Wemby is the clear #1 overall pick in a historical NBA draft

@Mdksupreme1

Ай бұрын

They're nothing remotely comparable, cus wemby has a legitimate chance of beginning the goat

The corner three take is wild. I agree that its not the easiest three (I think wing threes which let you have depth perception but don't force you to look at the rim front-on are the easiest), but only the straight-on three is harder.

you just explained why the corner 3 is the easiest.... its because it's the most likely to be open... I thought everyone knew that

I have always thought the top of the key 3 is the easiest 3 point shot.

@RealArktic

Ай бұрын

Me too

@archdukefranzferdinand2568

Ай бұрын

That always hits back or front rim for me. Wing 3 been the easiest for me atl

@_MrMoney

Ай бұрын

I think the elbow three is easier. You have more depth perception when you look at the rim and the backboard from an angle instead of head on. Plus, it's where most threes are shot.

@Urbrainongaming

Ай бұрын

Facts, top is easiest.

@Telopead

Ай бұрын

It’s all psychological. I like right corner, but left corner hates me. I also like left 45, but somehow right 45 makes me uncomfortable. Everyone’s weird in a different way.

I think its better that Lebron returned to Cleveland and won a ring there after “the decision” without that people would just view him as a ring chaser the same way KD is viewed right now.

@ArmyofDrag343

Ай бұрын

yea we likely would never have seen a 3-1 comeback if he stayed in miami. That finals was historic, probably the best.

@mikeyang3684

Ай бұрын

Yep. When pushing a dude into top 10 top 5, people need to see a player win the "hard" way. Lebron win Clevland's first Chip against the 73 win Golden State, Kobe get 2 rings without Shaq. Curry get a Chip at 22 without KD.

@davis2k1234

Ай бұрын

Dude he only went back to Cleveland because they had Kyrie and the No1 pick aka Klove trade he worked out before hand that was just his next super team it was pure coincidence it was Cleveland Lebron in 2010 “Akron is my hometown not Cleveland I don’t owe that city anything” Lebron in 2014 “Cleveland im coming home” FRAUD

@corey2232

Ай бұрын

A lot of people do view him as a ring chaser. Only difference between him & KD is that he managed to win rings with more of those teams. KD managed to be on the best of all those teams, but he couldn't take all the people pointing out how he joined an already ELITE team that won a ring without him. But hey, he got 2 rings out of it so good for him.

@relentlesshunter1394

Ай бұрын

​@@davis2k1234they construct that roster because of him LMFAO

THANK YOU for mentioning the corner three. Not a hot take imo.

Agreed on the 2017 Warriors.

What people in the US don't know about Wemby is that he was playing in the Euroleague at a high level 2 years ago in Asvel. He already had played against great european players and systems. However, last year he decided to go to a smaller French team that played no European leagues and had just one game a week. This allowed him to fully prepare himself physically for the NBA without losing the opportunity to play against grown men. I saw him play live when he was 16-17 and he was stunning to see

@CharlesSweet

Ай бұрын

How did the competition in the Euroleague differ for his development than what he's experiencing in the NBA? I ask, because I too have noticed there's a certain 'polish' on players that come from the Euroleague system that even in players not athletically gifted helps them succeed in the NBA.

@isaacjohnson7573

Ай бұрын

I always figure that the high European draft picks played euro league at least 2-3 years at some point

@CharlesSweet

Ай бұрын

@@isaacjohnson7573 I wonder what would happen if there were transfer portals for players (and unless there's some NIL adoption it'd be a moot point) to go play overseas leading up to draft availability to better refine their games.

@federicobravi5752

Ай бұрын

@@CharlesSweet I will speak only from my experience so it'll be a little sample size but yeah, it's totally normal for Euro young players to be more polished than US young players. When I was 16 I had the HUGE opportunity to change team and go play for a team that was competing in a higher level competition. Now, the way basketball and franchises are structured here is different from the US. You don't have high school/college championships and tournaments, you've got different tiers of levels for basically each year for teenagers, up until under19. So silver, gold and Eccellenza (a national tournament, with the best players, kinda like D1) this for every year so under 13 silver, gold and eccellenza, 14, 15 and so forth until 19. Every franchise usually has an Adult team too and they compete in adult championships, it goes like this: Serie D, C2, C1, B, A2, A (whereas D is lower and A is pros, a tier under Euroleague, here you find Armani Milano, Virtus Bologna and so on). Now, every franchise has the freedom to do whatever they want with their youth, this means that you can find franchises that let very young players (15, 16 ecc) play with Adults or full teams with very young players compete in adult championships. I did that. When I was 15 I got the chance to play in C1 with adults cause I was a young promising player and then the next year a Serie B team called me to be one of the young players of the team (every adult team has to have at least two under 21 on the roster, that's a rule). Let me tell you, that changes the way you play, you go from playing with 16/17 year olds to 25 to 35 semi pro players that have been playing at a super high level for years, even older pro players, and that casts a different light on the way you see the game, everything is faster, everyone is stronger and a better player than you and there's far more tactic than you've ever experienced before. I think the reason rookies from the US are rougher is this, yeah, maybe they're freshmen playing with seniors, but that's it, they're not playing with adults in their prime or a little after it with lightyears of experience over them. This said, it be far better if schools here had championships and teams and tournaments too.

@CharlesSweet

Ай бұрын

@@federicobravi5752 Absolutely outstanding - thank you for sharing this with me. I 100% agree that a more systematic approach (like the one you just outlined) would improve the quality of draft stocks here in the US.

As a Spurs' fan, the 2017 Warriors were impossible to beat beat because they had Zaza Pachulia.

@jacobrowe7538

Ай бұрын

I wish we could have had a healthy Kawhi Leonard for that series.

@Michiiigring

Ай бұрын

@@jacobrowe7538 ik spurs were leading, over 7 games i dont see the spurs taking that home

@nicyee3701

Ай бұрын

@@jacobrowe7538 We weren’t winning that series. The warriors were too overpowered.

@JasonZhao4711

Ай бұрын

The Warriors were the better team no doubt, but the Spurs totally could've won 2 games and made the series competitive. @@nicyee3701

@josephfinds

Ай бұрын

Spurs would have won if it wasn’t for him.

Isn't the corner much easier not just because it's nearer but because it was nearer you can shoot with a higher arc which increases the room for error for the ball to go in.

I respect all the takes Jimmy, a real ball knower can usually make these decisions in their mind based off a logic developed from watching/playing the game for 20+ years

i actually yelled in agreeance with you as soon as you said that corner threes arent the easiest

@GoulaLegamer

Ай бұрын

for me they're the worst top of the key are the easiest as a guard

@cedricasdfghjkl9151

Ай бұрын

​@@GoulaLegamer Same. This week, when I had a shoot out with my teammate it was the first time I was much better from the corner than from the rest of the court, with 7/10 and 8/10, I was shocked, not because I hit 7 or 8 out of 10, but because I did it from the corner. F the corner 3, I prefer the backboard as a reference to shoot better (I don't bank shots, but it helps me as a reference).

@Franko1HR

Ай бұрын

I see where you all come from, but it is the easiest. He also said why, because in the corner, most of the time those sharpshooters get a clear look. That's why they say it is the easiest one. If you ask me, it's not, but to those guys in the NBA, it is.

@Joswag

Ай бұрын

I always airball corner threes

@hepwo91222

Ай бұрын

yeah, one of the points he brought up was the backboard, you can be a little off, but you can soft bank a 3 point shot, but from the corner, the bank 3 is far less likely to go in, so I totally agree with his points as even playing at the playground, get balied out by the backboard, but not sure I ever had if I tried shooting a corner 3.

2016-17 Warriors Were a single win away from sweeping the playoffs. They made the Cavs look hopeless. They were unfair, and I hope I never see another team like it.

@ishaankulkarni9387

Ай бұрын

U dont have a problem with lebrons miami or yall just remember the warriors superteam smh

@nish8399

Ай бұрын

@@ishaankulkarni9387 the miami lebron team was not a superteam, it was just arguably a decent construction around the arguably best player of all time in his prime. the warriors team had two top 3 players at their peaks simultaneously with one of the best defenders ever and another of the best shooters of all time, as well as solid role players across the board. the fact that the warriors team almost swept back to back in the playoffs while healthy and the miami lebron team lost in the finals when healthy and came very close to losing a few seasons later shows the gap

@maurygoldblat8982

Ай бұрын

Isn't that the year that ZaZa injured Leonard when the spurs were up by 20 something?

@collectivemediagroup

Ай бұрын

@@maurygoldblat8982 lemme guess you got that from the rebound video😂

@Destroyer-kr6ho

Ай бұрын

@@nish8399 That Heat team was a superteam bro

i completely agree with all of these, he builds his opinions and evidence so well

I agree the conner 3 is not the easiest, especially in a game environment

When KD Joined that warriors team. I lost all the motivation to watch nba games. But when i learned that team is breaking down 1 after another in the season where they lost to the raptors in the finals. That's where i started watching again.

@yuno6097

Ай бұрын

No cap. Literally made me stop watching basketball until the Finals agains Toronto

@ballngm64

Ай бұрын

I stopped watching when Miami created their big 3

@dezz8598

Ай бұрын

@@ballngm64you stopped watching for no reason. The Miami Heat big 3 was not as “unfair” as the 17’ warriors, you still had three HOF’ers on the Celtics, Spurs, the young OKC, Kobe n Pau in LA, etc.

@ju_get_busy9140

Ай бұрын

@@ballngm64just lying for attention

@shayanmehta343

Ай бұрын

facts as a mavs fan we beat that miami team and that gave us and all the other teams hope that it could be done. that warriors team with kd was so good you didn’t even want to watch the games because you already knew the outcome

The 2017 Warriors were so fucking good, it was our generations version of the beetles, literally the avengers cast to stop LeThanos.

@banditski

Ай бұрын

Sorry - I can't "Let it be" - it's The Beatles.

@hakshustletv

Ай бұрын

I don't blame them, if not for that league change that the warriors brought in terms of play style, LeBron is sitting on 2-3 more chips imo because he was beginning to lose his mind lol

@RulingClassMentality

Ай бұрын

Stop spreading these lies. The Warriors didn't need KD to beat the Cavaliers.

@HtxRam

Ай бұрын

The only team that gave the warriors a sweat was the Rockets

@LyricalMurderer1

Ай бұрын

@@RulingClassMentalityeven Draymond admitted that they needed KD to win moving forward. Go watch it and you stop spreading nonsense.

So when are you uploading a 2024 nba playoff prediction video

in an alternate universe the draymond argument doesn't happen, they don't get injured in 2019, and we'd be waiting right now for wemby, jokic, and luka to knock off the warriors from their 8th b2b ring this year

@madtonesbr

Ай бұрын

Those 2019 playoff injuries were some serious hexes man, even as someone rooting against them I felt bad. 5 All Stars on the team and all of them injured at one point

@zachattack987

Ай бұрын

Tim Duncan was BAD!

@Edison.m3806

Ай бұрын

Pure facts. Unless an organisation was assembling the best of the best together (somehow), nobody was knocking off the Warriors

@joshlien2118

Ай бұрын

Oh yeah 100% and if draymond doesn’t get hurt in the 3-1 finals they win that. They would be considered the greatest dynasty ever if all of them didn’t get hurt but that’s not what happened and I’m not a warriors fan or a warriors hater either I’m indifferent about them (I used to like them but matured a bit) and they did get hurt and now we have to live with them honestly having a crazy downfall

@mekacrab

Ай бұрын

It was karma for ruining the NBA for years I guess. It sucks knowing beforehand who is going to win the ring, there was absolutely no contest. (inb4 warriors fans assaulting my DMs)

If you had to draft a player purely from their rookie season there's no chance you take anyone other than Wilt Chamberlain. Man averaged 37pts 27rbs and was the league MVP.

@Billi84-MaBoi

Ай бұрын

Yeah, but everyone sleeps on him because of the era. Also isn’t as versatile as Wemby and was already 23. It’s a good point tho

@auburnmann3630

Ай бұрын

Preach

@ArmyofDrag343

Ай бұрын

bro if we done with the 90's, we done with the 60's a thousand times over. Wemby crossing that boy out his shi.

@templr44_

Ай бұрын

@@Billi84-MaBoi In all honesty, Wilt was an athletic superhuman. Wemby might have a deeper bag than rookie wilt, but wilt was way stronger and more athletic.

@DLadd

Ай бұрын

Yea against who?

I was thinking that exact thing about the corner three when I was playing ball today

I always agree with you, but this last hot take? I'd go with the Bulls over the Warriors. I guess the only one who really knows is Steve Kerr.

I felt like Jimmy was supposed to post this by April 1 but instead post this just hours before April 1. Funny AF

@holypopy

Ай бұрын

Absolutely, most of the time he got good point but Lmao that Tim Duncan take was horrible ! Especially knowing spurs history for years they didn’t do anything great that’s a winning culture with a young coach and a lot of help from stars ?! 😂

@Doraemon1126

Ай бұрын

​@@holypopy fr Tim duncan is easily top 6 all time

Wilt averages 38 and 27 his rookie year and was also a freak of nature. Give me him 1st overall

@270upnext

Ай бұрын

playing against plumbers

@codynorton5402

Ай бұрын

I think Wilt is possibly the best athlete to have ever played, but he doesn't have the finesse snd shooting that Victor does. 1 v 1 I think Wilt breaks him, but on a team, Victor stretches the floor and controls the paint on D better (only because of his length)

@jamesondale7320

Ай бұрын

@@codynorton5402 I agree that Victor has displayed better “talent” but I think with today’s advances in training wilt could easily develop the finesse and shooting of victor while remaining the greatest athlete the game has ever seen.

@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154

Ай бұрын

@@jamesondale7320he already had that in his era. Played for the globetrotters and up until the 70’s he was a primarily a jump shooter

@kkiller1438

Ай бұрын

He also played against guys who wouldn't even be good enough to play D1 ball today

I like this topic ❤

With the playoffs around the corner, I really want Jimmy to follow the rule of threes and make another video predicting who will win the chip this season.

That corner 3 is a trap lol. 100% agree with ya brotha

I don't get the "timmy D was surrounded by a winning culture," argument trying to TAKE AWAY from his greatness, when the same thing is used to ADD to MJ and Kobe's greatness.

@spideyspits1667

Ай бұрын

Jordan made the bulls winning culture, Duncan was drafted in it

@themariokartlick

Ай бұрын

@@spideyspits1667I don’t know why that is presumed to be true. Popp is no doubt a legendary coach but most of his coaching career (and virtually all of his success ) coincided perfectly with Duncan.

@madtonesbr

Ай бұрын

Yup lol. Apparently Phil fucking Jackson, Scottie fucking Pippen, and Shaquille fucking O’Neal were all a bunch of bums being carried by MJ and Kobe, but Timmy was secretly being boosted by Pop and players better than Shaq and Pippen (Manu, Tony, Bowen, Rich J…. 😂)

@madtonesbr

Ай бұрын

@@spideyspits1667the Spurs were horrible when Duncan was drafted lol.

@boccci

Ай бұрын

@@spideyspits1667 spurs hadnt made it to the western conference finals in like a decade before Timmy was drafted. He won FMVP in his third year. He was drafted into a consistently alright team and made it into a perennial contender, on the back of his consistency and fundamental play.

I'm an athlete but not even close to being a basketball hobbyist, but I swear I couldn't even gauge how I would shoot those corner threes, but I could hit half court shots with sheer upper body to wrist motion (badminton), so I can say you're on point on all of these. You got me checking my like button again on the 2017 Warriors take, 'snooze of a season' go dubs!

You are 100% right about the 2017 warriors.

We are currently witnessing the slow passing of the torch from Lebron to Wemby. That's my take

@hunter-md3kn

Ай бұрын

Not really a take, just an observation

@user-ri9qp7xf8w

Ай бұрын

Watch him break like a twig in a couple years

@nonanimeprofilepic

Ай бұрын

Lebron doesn't even have the torch right now you fool. Jokic, Luka and Giannis are all better than him right now

@zavdab5238

Ай бұрын

Y'all were saying that about Zion 😆

@knotfrankie

Ай бұрын

For the way I see it, Lebron is definitely passing the torch to Luka Doncic. It's his generation and we'll praise him once he wins a title

Dude was a day early on April fools 🤣

@josephyoung6122

Ай бұрын

Bro it’s the 30th 💀 there are 31 days in March

@guythatlovespotato

Ай бұрын

@@josephyoung6122 america is not the only country in the world

@Splode

Ай бұрын

Dude was a day early on his day early April Fools comment

@VeryGoodEggs12

Ай бұрын

@@guythatlovespotatono shit

@_Syrcx

Ай бұрын

​@@Splodetimezones exist, ignorant American npc!

2017 Warriors got me back into watching basketball after over a decade. That team was just madness to witness.

I agree with everything you said

I do agree that the 2017 Warriors are most likely the best team in basketball history BUT if there was a team to beat them in a 7 game series, it would be the 2014 Spurs.

@tanyaheisler5842

Ай бұрын

good take

@sevuz1

Ай бұрын

2014 spurs would probably be my pick too

@swollpenispok8172

Ай бұрын

Stop it, washed up dirk took this team to 7

@johnmooney8568

Ай бұрын

They were such a thing of beauty

@A-Roddy

Ай бұрын

Hell nah

I 100% agree on the corner 3. Something about it that I barely see the rim for some reason, probably because I can't see the backboard. It's easier to sink 3s from the upper right or left than corner 3s.

@theYT_moderator

Ай бұрын

The thing is this was NEVER an argument. Corner 3 was always the toughest.

TD - Disagree LBJ - Agree Corner 3 - Agree Wemby - Subjective 2017 GSW - Disagree

As a ball player who loves the corner three, I fully agree that it is a hard shot. I have practiced it to master it and even then I still find it more daring or challenging than taking a top of the key three.

Wholeheartedly agree with that Bron take. The Heat had some more good years in them. I don’t think he should’ve left the Cavs and the 2020 Lakers team not lasting another season was just crazy. If Bron was more patient he could’ve had way more chips.

@romanramirez7847

Ай бұрын

I think just for LeBron’s case, the Heat could have had even more great years, but not for Wade and Bosh. By 2014, Wade’s body was really breaking down on him badly and he already missed a ton of games in the last Big 3 season. His injures likely would have stayed the same even if LeBron stayed which probably would have reduced his role on the team. As for Bosh, his blood clots were always going to happen no matter what, so he would have likely would have only had one good season with LeBron had he stayed.

@Blissfulanon

Ай бұрын

He had to get his home city a ring my guy. it was always the mission

@tr3

Ай бұрын

The 2020 team wasn’t his fault. They didn’t have the cap space and players were asking for way more since they just won a chip

@ktksoccerstar5

Ай бұрын

Agree and Lebron is my guy. I just think the first stint with the Cavs showed him that an organization making the wrong moves could literally break his career, so he felt like he needed to take charge. Makes sense, but I do think he's been wrong more than once.

@Travixty

Ай бұрын

if a single player is able to make decisions over the actual gm, that is simply a bad gm

i think a lot of the Tim Duncan love is because of the rise of advanced analytics which put Tim Duncan's value in a new light. He's not my GOAT but in certain and relevant emerging stats, he is the most valuable player of all time. As a stat oWAR and dWAR are still being worked on in basketball, but Tim is higher than anyone who's ever played, and thats seriously good

@x-man9473

Ай бұрын

The rise of Tim Duncan's status is mostly due to the polarized nature of GOAT debates.

@beefhammer270

Ай бұрын

I recently heard someone argue for the NBA "Put up all the individual stats you want, you play Basketball to win". I kinda like that logic and with that in mind, Tim Duncan won over 1000 games in his career at a 72% winning percentage. The spurs were basically an automatic 50+ win team during his career

@footyroll8678

Ай бұрын

@@beefhammer270 that has a lot to do with the organisation. Like if your numbers are not good u aint really doing that much as fans think. not talking about duncan casue his prime was insne

@scottb3034

Ай бұрын

he isn't....he's 24th in oWar and 2nd in dWar for an aggregate of 6th. Even with advanced analytics he doesn't shake out as most valuable or a top 4. And things like WAR or VORP are very much a longevity thing which is why he is so high but not the only way to measure value. Sure being pretty good for a long time is great but being amazing for a shorter time may be even more valuable and better. Just ask a Jordan or a Magic. I would take their shorter, higher peak careers than duncans really long, steady one.

2:47 Anyone else notice that Karl Malone is ranked at 13th?

I agree with your corner 3 take. That corner 3 was the toughest shot for me but I could bang straight away 3s all day

Jimmy is the only KZreadr whose videos I instantly click as soon as I see them. Also, he is the reason I started watching basketball more regularly. Thanks Jimmy, you're the 🐐

"Duncan Benefited From The System" System = Tim Duncan 🤯🤯🤯

@whatupcuz3688

Ай бұрын

yeah that is like saying James Harden benefited from the system but in Harden's own words "I am the system"

@BrayanSaverino

Ай бұрын

Lmfaoo

@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

Ай бұрын

Yep it's as dumb as saying Steph benefited from the warriors system. But I do agree that duncan is not top 5 all time, he's on the same tier as kobe so probably 7-9

@mical2great

Ай бұрын

Yea im sure getting drafted to a team with fuckin THE Admiral DAVID ROBINSON as your Center and getting a top 5 of his era PG in Tony Parker and the last foriegn player to lead his team to a olympic gold in Manu Ginobli didnt help AT ALLL😂😂😂😂😂😂

@thegr8tone251

Ай бұрын

@mical2great WTF Said Duncan Never Had Help? And Parker And Manu Were 2nd Round Picks. Nobody Projected Them As HOFers When 1st Entered. Tim Duncan Also Got MVPs And FMVPs While Playing With David. So You Tell Me Who The Alpha Was Before U Comment Something So Stupid Smooth Brain

this video is so refreshing

Duncan wasn't "widely considered" to be "around 15th" when he retired. He's generally been around 8th for a decade plus: Bleacher Report had him 8th in 2013, ESPN had him 8th in 2016, CBS had him 7th in 2017, SI had him 10th in 2016, Bill Simmons had him 7th in 2010. Really unusual TikTok-like take from you.

@chozen3769

Ай бұрын

Among the general fanbase though Duncan was DEFINITELY not top 10 when he retired, he quickly crept up the rankings though and Jimmy's take isn't wrong even if what he said about being 15th was.

@chozen3769

Ай бұрын

The 'tiktok' take would be the opposite, saying timmy is top 5 all time😂

@qed8248

Ай бұрын

My point is, I don’t think he “crept up” the rankings. I’m not sure how you would go about measuring “general fan” sentiment, but my comment above is not cherry-picked; I’ve never seen a list from a “popular” outlet that had Duncan in the 15th range. It’s really hard to be universally seen as the GOAT PF (which he was before he retired) and be outside the top 10.

@jaridatkinson4907

Ай бұрын

Tim Duncan was pretty much unanimous top 10 nearly top 5 when he retired

@mart1n10601

Ай бұрын

look up bruce bowen's top 5 all time. Even Tim duncan's teamate (bruce bowen) puts Kobe over Duncan. Duncan was great, but thrived because he literally was under Popp and the greatest offensive system ever. Not to mention duncan "led" team USA to bronze in 2004 with lebron (the one time we saw Duncan NOT play under Popp. He failed (USA always got gold before that). I think the rise of Duncan in the rakings is correlated to lebron fans honestly. Duncan's two main strenghts are consistency and longevity (same as Lebron's arguemnts for the GOAT). Thats why it took Gen Z kids to move Duncan up the list to also argue for Lebron to be higher than MJ (who didn't have longevity since he retired twice and early).

My hot take is that none of these are hot takes. An excellent video and breakdown of information and opinion, but not hot takes. Great vid as always, Jxmy!

2017 warriors were BY FAR the best team ever becasue of their pace, chemistry and players individual skill.

@scottb3034

Ай бұрын

1997 Bulls would still beat them. that team won 69 games missing 2 HOF for 30 games each and their starting center luc longley for 20. They also acquired an all-star in bison dele to help in the playoffs. Could play small while still being very big and had better defense than just about any other team in history. they'd also have a rebounding edge of 20 over the warriors every game.

Tim Duncan never had a losing season, 5 championships and 1 loss, Best PF of all time Tim Duncan is not overrated by any means.

@Mdksupreme1

Ай бұрын

Him never having a losing says infinitely more about the team than it says about him, Jordan, lebron have had losing seasons but duncan doesn't hold a candle to them, he definitely is slightly overrated

@hopoff9968

Ай бұрын

Tim Duncan was not a power forward, he was a center. He only played the 4 out of respect to David Robinson.

@rtleitao78

Ай бұрын

He is overrated by kids today, because of old folks like me saying how great he was.

@pointyheadYT

Ай бұрын

Did you not watch the video? He also agrees Duncan is a top10-15 player. But people putting him top3 is going too far imho.

@Jiturra01

Ай бұрын

LeBron fans don't care about losing...duh

That last take was as real as it get‘s, 100% agree the 2017 warriors were what domination actually looked like if it was a basketball team.

@hepwo91222

Ай бұрын

under modern rules, easily the best team, not sure in a different era with a dominant center or more contact allowed by officials those guys would all be lining up behind the arc when a "snakebite" foul doesn't get called and the 3's don't fall.

@tmac731

Ай бұрын

1996 Bulls are better

@jesse11111

Ай бұрын

​@@hepwo91222their floor spacing would kill any defense. Modern athleticism can hardly keep up with curry running around. kd would score at will. That dominant center is wasting his time guarding Zaza while the rest of his team is getting cooked. Until they put demarcus cousins in who could go to work in the post.

@rektz2457

Ай бұрын

Yet they still couldn't 3 peat. Pathetic! The warriors were lucky af they didn't go up against luka or wemby

@jdrmanmusiqking

Ай бұрын

That's his worst take on this list. Warriors had only 2 superstars where past and future teams have had more.

As a coach I would tell my players to practice corner 3s more because often they are the most open AND because they are the most difficult.

Maybe it's just me and I have a vision in the corner because I love corner threes

Jimmy is the only KZreadr who’s bad takes are actually good takes…

@james4real857

Ай бұрын

The only one he missed on was the lebron one cleveland was the best move for him

@thegreatautlsmo2695

Ай бұрын

He missed on the Duncan one.

@lesunshineworshiper11

Ай бұрын

Nah the Timmy D take was horrible lol

@pyotrbagration2438

Ай бұрын

He has LeBum over Timmy, peak redditor move.

@freehola3313

Ай бұрын

That Tim duncan take was nasty

Thank you Jimmy for mentioning that the corner 3 is the hardest 3 to take I used to tell my teammates and they did not get it !!!

I agree with all your hot takes on this video.

For the corner 3, anyone that actually plays ball will know what I’m talking about, but I believe that it depends on your spot. For some it’s there spot, and for some it’s not.

Love your content and you give great NBA retrospect. Wishing you the best in life Jimmy, Love your vids

Thx jxmy, always great when you post

I agree and find these good takes fr

I absolutely agree with the Tim Duncan one in my opinion.

@jaydenf2451

Ай бұрын

Then your dumb asf his points made no sense, same argument can be made for any player

After hearing the Tim Duncan take, I understand why you kept it in the drafts lol

@GetCaughtLacking

Ай бұрын

If you have Duncan top 5 all time then he is overrated. Sorry but he isn't top 5

@kkuwana

Ай бұрын

​@@GetCaughtLacking Still swept your boyfriend Lebron

@TiredOfthisstuff

Ай бұрын

​@@kkuwanalmao, i love how the only Explanation you could think of someone not having him in the top 5 is because they are a LeBron fan😭😂

@davis2k1234

Ай бұрын

@@user-ut5lh9xr3sWell Kobe has been dropping and hated on since he retired/died Kobe was in the discussion for No2 all time in 2011 now people saying Duncan better there was nobody post 2008-2016 saying Duncan was better then Kobe

@suntansuperman26

Ай бұрын

@@GetCaughtLackingWhy Duncan can’t be top 5?

Needed this vid. Especially on spring break!

I am on the Wemby train, big time. This kid is special, and I think we'll all be impressed with his career, when all is said and done.

@Mdksupreme1

Ай бұрын

we're already immensely impressed, tf do you mean we'll all be impressed, we've BEEN impressed

I dont watch Basketball but your videos are so good

Tim Duncan and Pop reminds me of Tom Brady and Bill Bellichek. I know Pop and bellichek are two of the greatest coaches of their respective sports, but would they be viewed like that if Brady and Duncan were never there?Brady is viewed as the goat but Tim Duncan is disrespected because of the system he was in, and to be fair Brady left New England and won a Super Bowl while Timmy never left San Antonio, but don’t disrespect Timmy Jimmy

@traiz

Ай бұрын

I think the thing is that he is not disrespecting Tim, He gave him his flowers just said that people take it too far

@zohkken

Ай бұрын

also with timmy, spurs where never near the finals, until he was drafted there.

@sturner973

Ай бұрын

Not for nothing but I'm a Spurs fan and the system hasn't been looking that great without TD .. No matter how good the system is, you need great players to execute the plays so I agree with you.

@mart1n10601

Ай бұрын

The Difference is that Brady won 7, duncan only won 5. look up bruce bowen's top 5 all time. Even Tim duncan's teamate (bruce bowen) puts Kobe over Duncan. Duncan was great, but thrived because he literally was under Popp and the greatest offensive system ever. Not to mention duncan "led" team USA to bronze in 2004 with lebron (the one time we saw Duncan NOT play under Popp. He failed (USA always got gold before that). I think the rise of Duncan in the rakings is correlated to lebron fans honestly. Duncan's two main strenghts are consistency and longevity (same as Lebron's arguemnts for the GOAT). Thats why it took Gen Z kids to move Duncan up the list to also argue for Lebron to be higher than MJ (who didn't have longevity since he retired twice and early).

@scottb3034

Ай бұрын

@@zohkkenthe Spurs were 2 wins away in 1995....what do you mean never near? Oh and the gervin spurs made the conference finals 3 times. 2 wins away in 83, 4 wins away in 82 and in 1979 they lost the eastern conference final in game 7 to the washington bullets.

The "Popovic's coaching excelence" argument 1 minute and a half after exalting Kobe... Who happened to win all his championships under Phil F'n Jackson... Who also happen to have coached Jordan in all his championships Everyone win with good to great coaching and at least decent teamates. Stop that sh*t right there

@izzy031096

Ай бұрын

100% agree. Same as saying Steph is overrated because he played in a good system.. That one made no sense to me

@ethanlondon8491

Ай бұрын

LeBron had dumb and dumber for two of his four 👀

@cooperrush6474

Ай бұрын

For a guy who's meant to be this profound basketball thinker that was an extremely tired and casual take. When Duncan got hurt and missed the playoffs the year after winning his first championship that supposedly great Spurs team he had with David Robinson couldn't get out of the first round against a 5th seeded Suns team whose best player Jason Kidd didn't even play in the series, they really weren't that good. Then there was that bullshit about Duncan benefitting from continuity even though he later admitted LeBron left Miami because it was a disadvantage for him to stay on the same team, by his logic Jordan shouldn't be the GOAT.

@sakdavid

Ай бұрын

Yeah, but without Pop and without Phil, Duncan led Team USA to a humiliation and Kobe led it to redemption

@1776carpediem

Ай бұрын

IMO Duncan is definitely between 5-8, put him anywhere in there and I’m happy with it. Only thing that bothers me about Duncan is Kobe is constantly brought up about playing with Shaq yet no one ever brings up that Duncan always had support.

I agree with pretty much all of these, minus the wemby one which I’m 50/50 on. The corner three take I’ve been saying for years, even if it’s 2 feet closer it is not easier

I didn’t hear any hot takes here. I wholeheartedly agree with these takes, but maybe Jimmy has molded my brain through out the years but who knows🤷‍♂️. Great video keep up the work 💪

@Someone-hi1nt

27 күн бұрын

if you wholeheartedly agree that there is no argument for tim duncan being top 5 all time, youre out of your mind... sorry to say it, and i dont care about accolades at all

As a mavs fan I love your first take. Thank you.

Man, you are right. Saying all of this out loud made me think you don't know ball.

Always happy to see you upload