It's the age-old debate between IFS and a solid front axle. When I was a salesperson at a CJDR store, at the launch of the JL Wrangler, FCA told us that a head designer recommended switching to IFS, and they were fired immediately from the project. It just doesn't allow for the easiest modification and limits overall travel. IFS does give one great advantage, and that is ride quality/stability. That is why we are offroading in Subarus. We can do awesome trails (more trails than most Wrangler owners who never go offroad), we can go drive around the canyons a little faster, and don't have to worry about death wobble going down the highway. Pucks/spacers are for sure the most affordable way to lift any vehicle and perfect for some that just wants to stuff a bigger tire under their vehicle. Mopar actually used to carry puck spacers for the Renegades and were shown off at SEMA. So don't feel bad about spending a little less on the suspension. Feel good about spending a little more on recovery, a nice wheel and tire combo, and/or skidplates.

@LiftedImports7

3 күн бұрын

@@TheMr.Logan9 friggin spot on!!! I'm so happy that there's still a good solid axle option on the market. Yeah they drive like piss on the road, but even in stock form there's no match for twin d44's when you hit the rocks😬 Subarus are so much more comfortable and reliable. But just have to be approached differently in many ways. And definitely! Spend that money on recovery gear and good tires.

The control arm will be the limit of down travel for sure. I've got a whole series of videos showing a significant increase in suspension travel with suspension versus spacer lifts measuring on the same car back to back. I've had 7 or 8 lifts on the car at this point. Ride quality definitely increases with a suspension lift for off road trails. Spacer lifts are fine for what they are. I have a Subaru with an 8" spacer lift. The oil pan is the same distance from the ground as factory. If that's what someone wants more power to them.

@LiftedImports7

2 күн бұрын

@@bruceyyyyy I think I've seen your SG before! Yes, you will definitely gain up travel. But I think the way that people envisioned a suspension lift on their Subaru is that it will turn it into some kind of Baja buggy or something 😅 While there's technically more up travel, every Subaru I've trailed with that's running LTC's has had only marginal gains in traction in the rocks or moguls etc. Has that also been your experience or is it a driver error thing? I think some people should consider a suspension lift. But the amount of negativity that I've been hearing lately towards spacer lifts is blown way out of proportion to the point where people who should realistically be running them are scared away from it for no reason.

@LiftedImports7

2 күн бұрын

@@bruceyyyyy also, just subscribe to your channel. No idea why KZread hadn't put it in my feed yet! So much for good algorithms lol.

@bruceyyyyy

Күн бұрын

@@LiftedImports7 Thanks for the subscribe! I still plan to do Subaru stuff but we bought a farm last year and it keeps me busy! I guess I have missed all the hating on spacer lifts but as I said I haven't been as active online as I once was.

@LiftedImports7

Күн бұрын

@@bruceyyyyy no kidding?? How many acres? I live in a rural ag community. Definitely not easy work. It's crazy. I've even heard people say "I don't want to use a spacer lift. I want to upgrade to a suspension lift so it didn't hurt my axles." 😅 I have no idea where people are hearing this stuff. Do you have that green SG with bronze wheels or an I thinking of someone else?

@bruceyyyyy

Күн бұрын

@@LiftedImports7 10 Acres. We just finished planting the 1/4 hop yard this weekend. You might be thinking of Brandt K. (who I've wheeled with) He's got a high speed low drag Forester build. I've got a 2017 3.6 Outback. Been having fun with it for 10 years now.

Amen to this... Too much misinformation being spread about lift spacers and Subaru's.. Guys buying new Subaru's, having them for 2 years and all of a sudden they become an expert...

@LiftedImports7

3 күн бұрын

@@andersondesign-fab4405 hopefully with a little practical advice I can give people the tools they need to make the best decisions. The FB groups is where it gets really spicy🤣

I got a ‘21 base outback with an Ironman 4x4 kit(regular in the front, spec-c in the back, installed around 90k mile @ 113k now) it’s a little high in the back but levels out when weighted down. No other mods beside luxury as in tint and autostop eliminator

@LiftedImports7

4 күн бұрын

Those springs help a LOT when carrying gear! Any future plans for the Outback?

Good info. Thank you for the visual.

@LiftedImports7

4 күн бұрын

@@RobbieMoreland-m2v you're welcome! Thanks for the comment🤘

@christophermisiano5769

4 күн бұрын

Great info as always!!!

@LiftedImports7

4 күн бұрын

@@christophermisiano5769 appreciate the kind words brotha! What Subaru you drivin??

I picked up a lift kit for my '05 OBXT a month ago so I can get in/out of it since I had a hip replacement. I've got other offroad vehicles.

@LiftedImports7

3 күн бұрын

@@ratfarmers how has it helped so far? That's actually a more common reason for lift kits than people realize! What other off-road stuff do you have? 😈

@ratfarmers

2 күн бұрын

It's been really awesome to get in and out of it with the lift in it and I don't grunt as much. Haha As far as other stuff I have a couple beater jeeps and old toyota trucks with vw tdi swaps. I'd love to swap one of my subarus someday.

@LiftedImports7

2 күн бұрын

@@ratfarmers I love that! I have an XJ that I'd LOVE to tdi swap. That's so rad.