I Used Robert The Bruce's Tactics To Dominate The Battlefield!
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English vs Scottish - it's a classic rivalry in history! And since everyone loves an underdog, we're going to look at the tactics used by one of Scotland's greatest commanders - Robert the Bruce and a tactic he used to great effect at the battle of Bannockburn. But how effective is this tactic in Mount and Blade 2 Bannerlord? Let's find out!
I decided to run this one from the ground the whole time, hopefully it's a bit more helpful seeing how it's doing without the RTS Camera mod! I also included an AI vs AI result to compare the difference.
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Wow. This makes me want to play the commander role more in battles than the usual Elite warrior role I usually play.
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean! I went through the same progression - I only wanted to be a warrior for a long time and then slowly switched to being more of a commander. Combat is just too fun in this game, hard to give that up :)
@kalziumbones1557
Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@lineasevenadam5009
Жыл бұрын
@@Strat-Guides Especially if you wield a big ass norse axe :D
@CharChar2121
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I get that, but why not just play total war at that point.
@Mowraq
Жыл бұрын
@@CharChar2121 Because you still can get into the heat and change the tide of the battle. I also like to be the commander but sometimes I just can't help it and flank the attacking infantry with my trusted twohanded axe and a few line breakers. Epic. Try that in TW
I kinda laughed when I first saw the thumbnail describing it as a Schiltron. Because in the Total war games, this formation is also used and is lovingly called the "Noob box"
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah I should change the title to Noob Box :)
@thecoolbyzantine24
Жыл бұрын
honestly in medieval 2 if the spears are in the front in a thickness around 3-5 men supported by 50-80 swordmen each behind them with archers in the center the formation becomes a generally good idea if the enemy lacks any artilery units
@GAMER123GAMING
7 ай бұрын
In the total war games there is aalso a formation called the schiltron where its actually a unit formation not an army formation and the unit basically forms up as a circle with spears pointing out on all sides
@handlesarecringe957
7 ай бұрын
@@GAMER123GAMING There's also the spear square in Shogun and Empire/Napoleon's infantry squares
@NGCS-ej4lz
6 ай бұрын
And yet it was used as a last resort by every one of the greatest commanders in history, starting with Bruce.
i love this concept of reproducing historic battles in bannerlord, this game is so realistic and has so much tactical depth with the different units and terrain
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why it didn't occur to me to do it earlier lol Oh well! I'm working on Battle of Cannae next, which should be a good one
@celticballer
Жыл бұрын
@@Strat-Guides I just heard about that battle yesterday. It was brutal defeat for Romans. I can't wait
@lethalslaughterband5498
Жыл бұрын
@@Strat-Guidescould you do any early modern battles?
@reileyscoyote7976
Жыл бұрын
@@Strat-Guides PLEASE DO CANNAE. I cannot WAIT to see Hannibal’s Masterpiece
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
@@reileyscoyote7976 working on that one for next week!
The battle of Falkirk showed the glaring flaws with the schiltrons. Yes, it's fearsome against calvary and infantry, but when Wallace's calvary deserted the field, King Edward I sent forth his archer force and the archers, crossbowmen and slingers began raining projectiles on the inexperienced and poorly-armoured Scottish spearmen. The schiltrons were an easy target; they had no defence and nowhere to hide. If the force isn't heavily armored, they'll get cut to pieces and run down by calvary.
@joshuaheidepriem8457
Жыл бұрын
Cavalry
@handlesarecringe957
7 ай бұрын
This also is a glaring weakness in the gunpowder age. Cannons will tear through a square easily.
@taylornox
5 ай бұрын
Everything you just mentioned has nothing to do with the formation lol, lightly armoured troops unsupported by calvary, always get eaten alive by archers, regardless of their formation. Wallaces mistake was believing that he could just stay hunkered down and Edward wouldn't risk shooting his own infantry and Calvary in order to also hit the Scots, unfortunately for him Edward didnt give a fuck.
@HeadlessHorsemanProductions
4 ай бұрын
THIS. On my channel dedicated to advanced Bannerlord tactics, I often use the adage, static troops are dead troops. Early in that battle, a good commander would have found appropriate shooting spots, surrounded it and wasted it with ranged units.
@todddias4125
2 ай бұрын
I just looked up this battle. So interesting how it played out and how ineffective they “hedgehogs” were against ranged units. . Any other cool battles to look up.
Small nitpick, schiltrons are more ovular than square, sometimes circular. Which is where it gets its name, "schiltron" is a hedgehog. Small, circular formations of large spears (kinda JUST on the cusp of becoming pikes) began to be used in Scotland maybe as early as the 12th, Robert Bruis made them far more effective and by that point pikes were beginning to show up. He figured out a way to drill his men effectively in moving the schiltron to reposition it. Prior to Bannockburn, they had been used to guard flanks, or as static position defense. In fact, it was probably the inability to move the schiltron that cost Wallace his battle at Falkirk; they got shot to shit and then charged as they broke from the arrows. The history of the schiltron is interesting. There are currently two primary theories, that the Scots either learned it from the Swiss or the Brabantines. Both were early adopters of pike formations. This is a Hollow Square formation, used by Romans and Chinese. The Romans made use of it famously at Carrae to keep themselves from being shot and charged on flanks. Didn't save Crassus. Or poor Publius.
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Damn you know your history! I did read up a bit on the subject before making the video, but you've explained it much better and more succinctly than others.
@Nick-hi9gx
Жыл бұрын
@@Strat-Guides I am a historian, in fact. Roman, but I have a fondness for the Scots as well. I did a paper on Robert in my first or second semester of undergrad. It is a shame that pike formations, and spears/pikes in general just don't work that well in Bannerlord, even with RBM. Works decently with RBM with real people playing, but the AI can't use a pokey stick for shit.
@stephenlyon1358
Жыл бұрын
@@Nick-hi9gx Robert caught the arogant english on the backfoot at bannockburn - he used his soldiers like the greek anvil but didnt have a hammer. They penned them into area surrounded by water and pushed them back. English cavalry could not deploy and the english archer had no clear shots. Cavalry and archers was the english win button and bruce robbed them of it. They pushed against eaechother and at the moment of greatest need, the Scottish common folk who had been travelling with the army, took banners and makeshift weapons and joined the fray for freedom. Never underestimate how useful arrogance is when it comes to strategy XD And the English are the most arrogant of all :P They would give the Romans a run for their money XD
@003milo
Жыл бұрын
Nick, thanks for pointing that out! I love what Strat Gaming does, but the first thing out of my mouth when I saw the formation "This is not a schiltron." That's okay everyone can make mistakes and he takes the information you pointed out like a champ.
@chrisburgett165
Жыл бұрын
This was really cool to read
I hope they add bigger battle maps, and better AI tactics. I love this tactic videos
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
For sure, it would be cool to see more focus on improving the AI. Thanks for watching!
@ShacolateClown
Жыл бұрын
seems like ai is still the same as early acces. when outnumber you they rush you. and if you outnumber them they try to get high ground or circle formation for some reason.
@anylco
Жыл бұрын
@@ShacolateClown They have 2 group of cav, 1 HA, 1 INF and 1 ARC afaik. I wish they have more options, like 3 inf with 2 arc, while they bait you with cav etc.
@feelingnether158
Жыл бұрын
It’s probably a nightmare to code new AI.
You are by far my favourite Bannerlord youtuber. You're videos are consistently top quality and really interesting. Keep up the awesome work!
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that! Thank you for the support :)
please do more of this. historical battles emulated in M&B is what should've been done a long time ago
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Will do! I'm already working on Hannibal's battle of Cannae tactics, but it's a really hard one to pull off so far
@SirAtesh
Жыл бұрын
@@Strat-Guides in reality key for reverse crescent was highly trained and very disciplined troops. Good luck pulling that off in bannerlord :D
@SirAtesh
Жыл бұрын
Center must withstand while slowly falling back, i hope some modders are crazy enough to attempt some kind of template commands to pull off things like these
The tactical part of this game is so satisfying. Just last night I fought a vicious campaign to take the remains of the northern empire. It was only one town and a castle, so I thought it would be relatively easy, but they had a massive amount of units. The biggest challenge was that I am not a kingdom, instead I sieged both as a clan with less than 200 units and defeated wave after wave of anywhere from 400-950 units while I was building up my siege camps! I thought I might lose every single time, but by using careful positioning of units and feints, and flanking attacks, I destroyed them all. So worth the huge amount of time it took. It’s probably about time to start my kingdom though. I’m just nervous that everyone will go on the attack against me. I think my character has earned his rest from war. Lol
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
It's an interesting problem - the smaller a kingdom is, the more dense their troops are. It takes a long time for them to lose their nobles to other kingdoms, so for a couple years they will have 1000+ units in the last fief plus militia plus garrison lol it's nuts!
You know mount and blade has come a long way when these real life tactics really work.
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
It's pretty cool to see! Much better than Sun Tzu F1 + F3 lol
@JD96893
Жыл бұрын
@@Strat-Guides yes! Would be cool to see a smarter AI as well, but at least the mechanics are on spot for the most part.
One of Robert the Bruce's best friends was chivalry- the fact that other people had it. He murdered John Comyn, the other claimant to the throne..... IN A CHURCH. When they defeated the English at Bannockburn, he had a spectacular duel with an English Knight. Knowing the knight as the lesser was bound to run at him headlong or be considered a coward, he sat still as the knight charged at him, dodged at the last second and split his skull with his axe, complaining that it damaged the best haft he had. Giles d'Artengan, an English retainer of Norman blood, considered the third greatest knight in Christendom (behind the Holy Roman Emperor and Robert himself, because royalty) carried the English king from battle and then, because he would not disrespect his code and be known a coward who fled, turned around after leading the king away to rush back into the Scots alone and die. One of the best warriors in the world who trained for over 30 years, with the ability to make men fight far beyond their normal resolve with his legendary status.... dead because "muh reputation." Needless to say, Robert was a great warrior and leader, but he got helped along by just how caught up in superstitious character development people were.
@DJMavis
Жыл бұрын
Illiterate horse bros, as my favourite history podcast calls the chivalric knights. A whole lot of dumbassery.
@Oxtocoatl13
Жыл бұрын
Also Robert was just not above getting his hands dirty. When he was still a guerrilla leader, he regularly raided and extorted his own people to fund his war. After Bannockburn, he subjected Northern England to a decade of continous, annual raids to maintain pressure on the English. Chivalry wins you friends, but ruthlessnes wins wars.
@mrkitcatt2119
Жыл бұрын
The Bruce's were Norman
@reece42069
7 ай бұрын
Bruce realised if you play people better then you at their own game they will win So he played by his own rules
Robert the Bruce. The First man to use the noob box
Fun fact, if your outnumbered by a lot of cavalry, the ai npc will actually tell you to surround the archers with the infantry to keep the cavalry from getting to them. It was super effective for me.
@jaybiddy955
4 ай бұрын
I just did this today 800 vlandian calvary troops/archers vs 500 empire Archers/Infantry the AI set this up on its own and told me to command the archers yo the middle we won too
Love seeing all the different factions he plays as in these, was not expecting to see the Rodoks
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
I've got the De Re Militari mod on for this one and the Rhodoks are as strong as ever :D
interesting fact: the English were well famed for their powerful longbows able to shoot farther than any other bow at that time period, when William Wallace tried using a schiltron to fight against the King of England with this strategy in an open field the longbowmen simply shot from afar before the English knights swept up the last of the remaining Scottish peasants who were rebelling and captured William Wallace, not long after this event William Wallace was tortured and executed
Love how you have the AI comparison at the end, really shows how well the tactics work.
I appreciate the effort and creativity you do making the videos!!! Thank you for sharing and please keep up the fantastic work!!
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like them :D I appreciate the support! I'm working on Battle of Cannae for next week, hopefully I can get it to work! It's giving me some issues though lol
@jamestalbot1647
Жыл бұрын
@@Strat-Guides hi mate, you do to much first person… I preferred your video that got millions of views because it was Birds Eye and more informative
Seeing the effectiveness of real world tactics in banner lord is pretty dope, hope you do more of these
Great vid Strat. This is the meat of tactics that I enjoy most. I particularly liked how you regrouped when they reinforced, something I have a lot of trouble with (probably need RTS camera to see better as well).
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
RTS Camera is a great way to train actually! I don't use it in my campaigns, but I've used it a lot in testing and I think it's improved my skills on the ground as well
I just recently discovered these videos and they’ve helped my Bannerlord performance SO much! I’m by no means as good as you, but even basic tactics are amazing against the AI. So THANK YOU!🎉
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Nice, I'm happy to hear my videos are being put to real use :D Thanks for the support!
@Fernando-qk9fd
Жыл бұрын
That is the reason I love this channel to improve my gameplay.
I'm really enjoying this series of testing historic formations. A lot of games real world tactics don't often translate well to them, so it's a beautiful relief to see them work as they should do. Mirroring what someone else said, these videos have made me want to be more of a commander and less of an elite warrior in battles. It sure gives you a lot more time to make decisions and observe the battle properly... until you get an arrow to the face :'D
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm really glad people are enjoying these! Haha yeah they've got a sniper on their side
@DJMavis
Жыл бұрын
I used to be an commander like you, until I took an arrow to the face.
Loving this kind of videos, hope you get the support you deserve!
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! It will take time, but I'll keep working hard either way :)
That was really cool! Been messing around with formations more in battles and it's been a game changer for sure. Been able to go into battles against more numerous foes and minimal losses.
Loving these tactic videos, they are my favorite and I watch every single one!
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Nice, I've got a bunch more in the works! Currently I'm trying to get Hannibal's tactics at the battle of Cannae to work, but it's difficult to say the least
Loving these tactics. Good video!
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm working on the Battle of Cannae tactics next (Hannibal)!
When you first leap over your soldiers was pretty badass. I could already tell you were gonna win
Good job dude. GOOD. JOB. dude. Its awesome to see channels like these. Ive been doing modern small unit tactics and survival tactics in games for a long time, and its a shame theres not many who actually try to (casually) implement real life tactics in a way that they WORK, instead of awkwardly cosplaying/LARPing them. Theres absolutely NO reason NOT to use real life tactics in games as they only help to reduce random deaths, frustration, and lost time. Really good to see these tactics being used, and absolutely awesome that bannerlord is realistic enough to support it. Looking forward for more.
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I know what you mean - they do work but often times are overshadowed by "the meta" like Fian archer spam. I enjoy challenges so making these work are right up my alley!
Your content has always been very good, but you are still stepping it up. I hope this kind of video gets the views it deserves!
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support! I really appreciate it. It's been a bumpy road for sure, but I feel like I'm finally starting to understand it now :)
Hey man! I've been watching your work for a while now, and you always produce high quality videos. Please keep it up!
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate that!
Your video has made me a better player hands down. I just won a battle against The Empire 1800 to my 1000 by doing this strategy. We literally had exactly 69 soldiers left at the end, but we completely wiped them out. Unfortunately there was an army of 500 coming right up on us after, but I escaped, by disbanding the army, and letting my fellow vassals get chewed through. Still, we did far more damage to them.
Don't you love it when a plan comes together
great gameplay man! feels like a real battle really could have been
Awesome video I really like the "history meet bannerlord" approach Keep it up man! 👍
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm working on Hannibal's tactics at Cannae next :)
@Ruberg89
Жыл бұрын
@@Strat-Guides i'll be looking forward to be watching that! 💪 You're a great content creator, hope you'll keep supplying us for a long time 🤞
Always look forward to your videos! Thank you!!
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
This style of video is awesome! Excited for Cannae
Bruuuh this is soo good and such a cool concept please make more of these videos
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm working on battle of Cannae tactics this week :)
Had huge struggles with defending started watching you and learnt a lot I’ve been able to take outnumbered matches without getting curb stomped
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Wow nice! It's really cool to hear my videos are being put to good use rather than just fun to watch :) Thanks for letting me know!
One thing I have learned from strategies like this is when u find your enemies charging from one side try to flank them with your other army don't keep them all in a line and this strategy works good with this formation
love this game, and watching these. that shot to the face at the end lmao
Solid video, liking this short formation tactics videos
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! A lot of people seem to be interested in this style so I'm going to keep running with it for a while :)
could have sworn you were at 77k subs like, 1-2 days ago, some solid growth!
this just turned into a whole different game you are great dude love your video
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying them :)
Awesome video. You control your troops in a handsome and brutally realistic way. I'm waiting for Cannae.
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Can't wait for the next one. That will be very cool to see
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
I'll be working on Battle of Cannae all week! It's a tough one to pull off though
Definitely going to give this a try. It's good to see you down there with the troops in this video too! I've been playing on the PS5 a lot lately and i'm always down with the boys on the field now (I spoke too soon. 😅)
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I got a lot of feedback about the top down view on the previous one, so I'm going to use the regular view from now on for these videos. It's much more immersive, just thought it might be harder to tell what's going on
Best bannerlord KZreadr. You've been super helpful in my campaigns too
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching :)
Legend has it, this game is the entance test to West point academy
Love these vids!
What I'd love to see is some kind of choke point tactics. There are some maps in Bannerlord where you can defend on multiple choke points like the oasis village in southeast aserai territory or the riverplains north of epicrotea with it's many bridges. And in history there probably were more than enough of such battles. That is, assuming you didn't already do something like that, i just recently found your channel.
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback! I have not made a video on it for this specific series, but I do have a 2nd channel and few battles exactly like you describe: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dq2Dw6ipj7bSpZs.html&ab_channel=StratPlays Skip forward to about 9 and a half minutes to get to the battle!
Really cool video! I love it
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
Great vid! Now I have to watch outlaw king
the amount of control you have is wild ...i cant even imagine doing that on the xbox haha
There are times I spend way too much time in RTS camera just giving orders. There are times I enjoy to give F6 to my army and just go with cav and wreck havoc. Both are great, and seeing what you can do with some tactical approach. It was great to watch 🔥
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Tryk0n3x
Жыл бұрын
@@Strat-Guides any tips against khuzaits?
The infamous Total War noob squares :D.
Awesome stuff. Now to recreate the Battle of Carrhae and see if you can win as Crassus...
These tactic vids are so good ♥
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've got several more on my list to cover, Battle of Cannae is up next
Keep up the content loving it
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
"Just an unstoppable shield wall. Now, there's gonna be a few that get through. You can see a few of them streakin' through right here... not a problem. You can't stop everybody." 1:08
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Hehe in my defense, the wall held :)
@telesphoros
Жыл бұрын
@@Strat-Guides Lol, You actually had it under control. My army tactics would die to that wall for sure.
Great video reproducing the formation. It would be great to see how these tactics and formation would fare against to F1+F3 and compare the loses.
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! If you check the very end of the video, I show you the stats from F1 F3 test (I actually ran it 3 times and this was the best results I could get).
Effective against just cavalry too. I've been using this formation on a much smaller scale(50-70 infantry, mostly tier 2 and 3) to do caravan ambush and escort missions. I'm using RBM and DRM so I'm going up against about 40 tier 4 melee cavalry instead of the much weaker and more annoying combination of lower tier melee and horse archers.
Absolute annihilation, but I'm still in early stages of the game and only have an army of about 150. I'd love to see smaller army tactics!
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure! I'm also thinking about doing a video using only low-tier troops that I think might be helpful. It takes a different style to commend them!
Hey Strat, great video as always! Did you learn these tactics and strategies by simply studying history books or did you focus on consuming tactics/strategy oriented content (books, videos, etc)? I'm trying to get started on learning war strategies/tactics to play Mount and Blade and Total War games in a smarter way (lol), but I'm not sure how to get started. By the way, this interest of mine is in a big part thanks to your videos, so I would like to thank you for all the effort you put on all of your content! Thank you!
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
I watch a ton of History content on YT and I used to watch a lot of documentaries back when those were a thing. I guess things that interest me are easier to remember, so they are just kind of up there lol. One of the biggest helps for me was running a ton of custom battle tests to get an idea for how all the game mechanics work. I've ran well over 1000 battles and collected data from them to make tactics guides, so that probably plays a part.
Love your videos there so helpful
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
Every single video of you is something new and interesting. Amazing job brother
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
Think its worthwhile to remember that Robert the Bruce utilized a mobile Schiltron at bannockburn, the major flaw of the schiltron is its immobility, leaving it heavily vulnerable to archer fire as seen in Willy Wallaces's rebellion, a mobile schiltron provides the mobility to get too close for archers to be of threat but it requires alot of coordination from both men and the commanding force. The immobile schilltron was also often seen in a more circular formation whilst the mobile schilltron was always rectangular like the one seen here. Great video though, awesome to see stuff like this in M&B
Thanks for this guide, its the most fun I've had playing bannerlord. I've been using my custom swiss pikemen unit in the 1100 Europe mod. Its fun setting up the pike square and easily skewering enemy cavalry while I finish them off when they're dismounted Do you have a playthrough series where you play like this? If not, I wouldn't mind seeing a robert the bruce pikeman playthrough, since I find infantry battles to be more fun than cavalry
@Strat-Guides
2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I don't yet, but I did quite a bit of testing in preparation for a Robert the Bruce campaign :) Hopefully I have time to run it in the next month or so
Earned my sub with this content
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support!!
@KingPlaty
Жыл бұрын
@Strat_Gaming thank you for the content good sir 🙏
*@Strat Gaming Guides* (minor detail) 0:29 I would have put the archer lines as 2 diagonals, like / \ or as \ / (but more angled, about 45* ) depending on where the enemies are expected to attack, and such that they don't shoot themselves. And as a diagonal, they can reach 2 sides even faster to reinforce where needed.
feel like this tactic would be REALLY strong with a death unit in the middle, ppl with greatswords/two handed axes/glaives that can reach around the shield wall and or get stragglers. or in real life tactics they could create a shield wall with the idea of letting the enemy create a triangle in the line and the point of the triangle will purposely give in for the death squad to go wild. wonder if you can do that in bannerlord
Love this kind of content! Besides the mod you talked about, this can be done in native? I need to start thinking in terms of strategy instead of the famous Sun Tzu F1+ F3 tactic
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Yeah this specific formation can definitely be done in the base game! Some of the more fancy tactics I'll cover are not as effective in the base game because of how quickly melee combat is over with. With RBM, battles tend to last a lot longer which allows for more time to manuever
That jump into the shield wall at the beginnig was slick
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Lol they wouldn't let me in!
i cant stop hearing Shield-Tron. like its some power rangers megazord or something, beautiful video :)
Watching these videos show me just how bad of a commander I am. Gotta step up my thinking!
More commonly known as the "Noob Box" formation.
That's how total war players chill in mount and blade. Some magnificent epic strategies like this! Great stuff
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
this is awesome content!
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
Hoots mon! That was epic. Now to get enough pikes or polearms to be able to carry that out
@Strat-Guides
Жыл бұрын
It's actually still effective with regular shield wall troops like legionary or heavy axemen! The main goal is to stack enough troops (depth, not width) so that it slows the cav down to a stop. Once they get stuck, they are easy pickings!
fantastic video. not remembering to deactivate Hold Fire is indeed a mood.
@Strat-Guides
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Lol it's sad that I did it twice in the same battle :P I wish they had a warning beep like when you don't put your seatbelt on in the car...
@declanandrewbell
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@@Strat-Guides or even just text lines from unit captains like when you've joined an army
Oh, hell yeah. This is that content that gets me to pick up the game again.
@Strat-Guides
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I know what you mean - the game can get really stale if you do too much of the same thing and they don't really explain how to use troops well. Glad everyone is enjoying these :D
@drach420
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@@Strat-Guides I think I mentioned on one of your polls that "I would watch hours and hours of tactics videos". I wasn't lying.
I need to watch more of these.
@Strat-Guides
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I'm a little delayed on inverted crescent formation from Battle of Cannae, but I'll have it ready early in the week!
@AnotherDuck
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@@Strat-Guides Awesome. I enjoy a bit of history too, and this is an interesting way to see how those battles could work. Not that it's 100% realistic, but it's good food for thought.
Also known in the Rome Total War multiplayer community as the 'noob box'.
You seem like the type of guy who repeatedly Smacks it to the Braveheart ''FREEDOM'' scene
@Strat-Guides
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Rofl no shame in it
I love the videos. I hope you will consider doing tactics on other war games like Age of Sigmar a warhammer game.
@Strat-Guides
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Thank you! Yeah I'm thinking about it. Seems like a lot of people are enjoying these :)
Realistic battle mod seems fix most of the issues i had with bannerlord battles.. I think its time to reinstall the game! Awesome vid man
@Strat-Guides
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Personally I have a hard time playing without RBM now! It's not very good for smaller battles (like 20 vs 20) but for anything in the mid to late game it's waaay better
I absolutely love this tactic when using it in battles. I didn't know the formation name so I just called it the infantry square, best formation against calvary in the napoleonic wars, I was Vlandia and had Vlandian Sergeants and Pikemen, I had arboreals as my archers, I made the square just as you did but since the archers didn't have shields they were just bow men. Nether the less the archers fired point blank into the line, regardless enemy or not and it was so much fun getting the better of the enemy by being smarter. I was fighting the Empire, they had Empire Legionaries and Empire Elite Menavliatons. Their calvary was Empire Cataphrats to balance things out. I tried to create a pike and shot scenario (without the shot). By the way I was doing a custom battle to test things out and the RBM mod. It was like out of the movie, calvary attacking all flanks but the square stood their ground and we ended winning the day. Here's to the schiltrons!
this formation is amazing in rome total war with phalanx units, just make sure you overlap the ranks on the corners to make the flanks safe
this is the first time i've seen a box formation in this game; let alone something work this *GOOD*
This worked pretty damn good. I bet some shock troops in the center would help clean up anyone that broke through
Love your work mate 😀 One question, does the schiltron still work as well with a smaller central open area? P.S. Ignore me the view at 13:46 makes the reason for that central gap very clear 👍
@Strat-Guides
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No problem! The cav are hungry for archer/crossbow blood lol
KEEP POSTING!!!!
so many memories of fighting online in Rome Total War, and every so often the infamous Noob Box would appear, hell, I even pulled it out a few times 😁
I only started playing this game about a week ago so I don't have a big force like this, and I mainly fight bandits right now. But holy crap dude you commanded them like a boss.
Amazing skill you have
@Strat-Guides
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Thank you!! Yeah this type of formation is going to be most effective against melee cavalry. I did test against melee foot troops and foot archers and it performed quite poorly
Great video! It's been one year since I last played Bannerlord. Whats mods até you using? The game, AND the mods seen to have improved a lot.
@Strat-Guides
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Thank you! It's definitely changed a lot since then. The main mods I've been using are RBM and De Re Militari. They both work together quite well
@feldsmann2
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@@Strat-Guides Thanks for the info. Working a lot right now, I'm going to have a break in April and I'm planning to reinstall Bannerlord anda give It a go. I will definitely keep looking tour great vídeos for some ideas.
the main weakness i think would be your rear line getting shot in the back by longbows, but you could make a more complete shield wall if you had to, and just having more archers then the opponent is also a good archer defense
@Strat-Guides
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Yeah I agree - this formation breaks down against archer-heavy armies
1:10 Unstoppable shieldwall... Enemies come in from one side. Reminds me of that video with the smol rhinoceros baby that walked between the steelbarrs behind the reporter xD
@Strat-Guides
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Lol what?! I'm going to look that up right now, sounds like a hilarious video
@madeingermany9445
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@@Strat-Guides pretty old video
@Strat-Guides
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@@madeingermany9445 lol just watched it, very cute! I like how it went after the camera first
Damn, Horatio Nelson'd right at the end there
@Strat-Guides
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Lol RIP
Are there other strategy games that you recommend that are similiar to Bannerlord? Or even any strategy games that you like to play? Good video like always.
@Strat-Guides
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I like most of the Paradox games, but it's a very different kind of game. I used to play a ton of strategy games like Total Annihilation, Supreme Commander, etc. Those were my favorite! But sadly they don't really make those kinds of games anymore - it's mostly starcraft clones, which I don't enjoy (it rewards high CPM over real strategy IMO)
@121MultiGhost
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@@Strat-Guides Ty!
Sturgian Heroic Linebreakers want to know your location.
Because I play on console it’s quite a bit harder to make complex formations so to counter that I tend to use tedious commands and feint attack I use cavalry to flank with myself at their side I tend to take a more cautious approach to any battle I go into and when I have superior troops I’m able to take on massive armies with my own personal warband of around 130 warriors
@MrCreation0099
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For an example with my elite force of 54 legionaries 25 fian champions and another 25 imperial elite cataphracts ( with some mixed in miscellaneous troop types I like have a bit of diversity on my armies ) I can take out armies nearly 3-5 times my size