Wow, in just 13 minutes you managed to better explain Kibbe than the multitude of videos and hours I’ve spent trying to figure out this topic.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Aw I’m glad you found it helpful! ❤️❤️❤️

@CT1010101

8 ай бұрын

So true! Why does everyone else make it so hard to understand. Possibly because of the jargon. She broke down the jargon immediately which really helped.

@Sbannmarie

3 ай бұрын

Good to hear!

@hollynixon9570

2 ай бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing. The first girl who I started watching, didn’t seem to know what she was talking about. The second seemed to know more but throw around words like “width” and “rounded shoulders” when it wasn’t really clear so i started out thinking I’m a theatrical romantic. Then i started in with the explanations and the first girl was like everyone sorts themselves into theatrical romantic at first. Then i retook the test and got gamine….. but the second girl when she was talking about gamines was talking about how gamine’s look really bad with dropped should seems which I do. I could never understand why it looked good on other people and not me. Ok so then i revisited and then the word “width” keeps getting thrown around and i have fairly broad shoulders but I’m thick so i’m like ok, i’m a soft natural. Now I finally found a girl explain width and while i do have broad shoulders, where the curve in my shoulder starts to drop is actually in line with my chest so technically I don’t have width. So this brings me back to romantic because i now understand that i have double curve and I’m not by kibbe standards petite. 🤷🏻‍♀️lol so i think my classification of theatrical romantic was right in the first place.

Most of the confusion comes from the lack of comprehensive vocabulary. Kibbe terminology is actually very simple when broken down, it's just never broken down at all. It is crucial to note that the Kibbe system is not really about body shape, but about the way clothes fall on the body. Width: straight horizontal line. Vertical: straight vertical line. Curve: round line. Sharp: angular and crisp, like a V. Blunt: not sharp, like a U. Therefore "width dominant" means that the main characteristic is a wide horizontal line, such as broad shoulders, like this: - "Vertical dominant" means the main characteristic is straight lines like this: | "Curve dominant" means the lines of the body are curved, S or C shaped. I hope this helps a bit!

i think you got your kibbe id exactly right. the thing i appreciate most about the kibbe approach, is it vibes with your “stay unique and stay gorgeous.” it’s not about making yourself look hourglass or ‘balancing’ your features with a contradictory look. it’s about leaning in to what you already are

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

100% agreed! ❤

@trishemerald2487

8 ай бұрын

Disagree. She's an SN not an FN. No FNs are 5 foot three.

@BbGun-lw5vi

8 ай бұрын

@@trishemerald2487Sarah Jessica Parker is a verified FN at 5’3.” But it’s pretty rare.

@leni0210

8 ай бұрын

@@trishemerald2487 Agree, she's definitely SN. She lacks the broad shoulders of FN.

@dianabanana7394

8 ай бұрын

@@leni0210 but she doesn't have curve, which automatically rules out SN

You have such a gift of explaining concepts in a way that is complex, nuanced AND really easy to understand! I don’t know how you do it, but I am SO grateful for you and your channel ! 💓

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Aw that is so sweet of you ❤❤❤ Thank you so much!!

@Leticia_b_ceratti

8 ай бұрын

Me too ❤. Thanks, Jenn!!!!

@emilyevans6989

8 ай бұрын

I agree. Just ONE of the reasons I love your channel, is that you have effectively explained some things that I honestly had given up on, because I got stuck in the quagmire of definitions. I, too, am some sort of “Natural.” I also have broad shoulders and a huge rib cage. No waist, though. Never had one, NEVER will. Junk in the trunk? Nope. Flat. The older I get, the more I look like an “Apple on a stick!”

@lilya7110

8 ай бұрын

I think Jenn is brilliant!

@DianaRamirez-sm5nx

8 ай бұрын

Same I agree💃

When you announced Flamboyant Natural I immediately thought of Sarah Jessica Parker who is either 5'2 or 5'3 and is a KIbbe verified FN. I'm 5'11.5 and I used to dress more for FN, but those lines make it look like I have given up on life. I struggled with accepting that I am a Dramatic, because of the more "masculine" stereotypes that tend to be associated with the Dramatic type. But now I happily embrace it.

@shirin9452

8 ай бұрын

Dramatic is your quintessential v neck plunging gown and can look quite delicate because of how little bulk there often is in the fabric and narrow vertical line. Miss Taylor Swift is a nice example of a dramatic who manages to create elongation in very cutesy feminine outfits 😊

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Yes - SJP as a FN was validating for me ❤️ I echo the reply from @shirin9452 that although Dramatics are often associated with the "masculine" stereotypes, their vertical with the lack of width actually makes them more delicate than Naturals!

@raraavis7782

8 ай бұрын

That really made me laugh. I was pretty convinced, I'm a flamboyant natural for the longest time. But, as you put it, the typical dress recommendations for that type make me look 'like I've given up on life' as well. It just looks like I put on 'whatever' and don't care about my appearance, even if I put a lot of thought into the outfit. I mean, I can rule out Gamine, Romantic and Classic for sure. But I just don't see myself in the examples of either pure or soft dramatic, either...even though that is my preferred style. But I'm not voluptuous or curvy at all, even when I gain weight, so I can't be a 'soft' anything. And I don't see myself as 'sharp' enough for a pure Dramatic. I always come back to Flamboyant Natural. 5'8ish, long limbed and narrow hipped with slightly wide shoulders. Square jawline and large nose, so lots of yang in the face. But more blunt then sharp looking, overall. O really fit the definition of a FN very well, but I just don't like the style on myself.

@Snoozler

8 ай бұрын

I also had the same experience as you. I got into Kibbe years ago when it started gaining traction again -- immediately assumed I was an FN and started dressing that way, I loved the guidelines for FN.. but I eventually realized that something was just kind of "off" and I always looked really sloppy! (perhaps this is the biggest indicator of a D mistyped as FN?) I definitely had some resistance to being a Dramatic too. But now that I'm learning to embrace it, I'm realizing how much better it is on me. Its just so hard to find well structured/tailored pieces compared to FN unconstructed styles though.. /sigh

@raraavis7782

8 ай бұрын

@@Snoozler What makes it even harder, is that clothing for dramatics need to fit right. The FN style is pretty forgiving that way, I feel. And it's not that easy to find well fitting, tailored pieces, when you're above average in height and your proportions aren't necessarily 'average adult female' either.

I saw Natural straight away. That loose relaxed hair suits you and openness of your personality. I see you as a N or SN similar to Britney Spears's body bone structure. The exact same shoulders and thighs and legs. I've been following and learning about kibbe types for 2 years. It is so interesting and is great guide. I can type most people and trained my eye. He really explains why certain looks suit us more than others and how naturally we know what looks good on us and what styles don't. To have it in his system was ground breaking and still applies to this day. As far as wide shoulders, they are majestic. Just look at Yasmeen Ghauri and how amazing her shoulders look pronounced.

I definitely think you’re a natural - the width and blunt edges of your bones are quite apparent, and you really know how to dress so well for it!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! Yay I think many people agree which makes me happy :)

@le_shimab

3 ай бұрын

Well I must say that I think she is soft natural Idk straight lines just don't seem to match her, other than that usually fn and n tend to have elongated figure, along with elongated limbs compared to the torso. Imo she has moderate to slightly short silhouette. And don't worry sn is not only a natural with curves. Sn is about being not as dry looking and having a slightly rounded skeleton when compared to other naturals. I say that bc I'm also sn but I have extremely straight figure, straighter than her actually lollll Overall good video I think she had an excellent understanding in kibbe

@YumeraChauque

26 күн бұрын

​@lglade that you explain it.e_shimab

The width part hit me hard! I cried countless times when I was a kid/teen bc I could never wear the cute outfits my mom, sister, and most of my friends wore. I was never overweight but always looked somewhat robust compared to all the girls in my life. The only one that was as "wide' as me, wasnt really too wide, she was just very curvy. I can relate so much, omg! Honestly, learning about kibbie body types has helped me so much to get over this insecurity of mine, Loved this video, I love the way you explain things

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad you resonated with the video! I've grown to love my shoulders over the years since I can wear a lot of clothes that delicate types can't wear :) It's all a trade off!

My process figuring out that I’m a soft natural took about a year, and although its pretty obvious my body dysmorphia didn’t help😅 now I’m in the style essences territory as well, so I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on them! I absolutely love your videos💛 Happy anniversary!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Agreed! Self-typing is especially difficult ❤️

You killed it, I pegged you as an FN right away but your process of elimination was top tier analytical

OH MY GOD, JEN. I cannot tell you how refreshing it is to hear from someone who has also struggled to find clothing that fits broad shoulders!!! I can never, ever find blouses, blazers, or really any structured garments that fit both my arms/shoulders and torso. Anything that fits comfortably on my arms is always hanging off my belly like a tent. My mom and sister have the same problem. I know it's a bit of a niche topic, but since you deal with this issue yourself, I'd love to hear any advice/tips you have for finding clothes that fit broad shoulders.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'll see if I can make another video about it! But for one I do try to avoid "restrictive" shoulder lines - I often opt for something where the shoulder line drops well below the shoulders to about 1/3 of the upper arm if they're unstructured pieces, or even with structured pieces like blazers I opt for the oversized look! My rule is either expose the shoulders or keep the area boxy haha. Hope that helps!

I’m positive I would have understood math if you had been my professor Jenn! You explain the most complex subjects with such clarity. Thank you so much for making videos I can always relate to!!! ❤

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Aw you are so sweet! Thank you so much - I'm glad you're finding my explanations helpful ❤️

This is the best Kibbe body type explanation I’ve come across. Like you, I’m short but not petite so I couldn’t identify as a gamine. Thank you for walking us through the process of elimination and helping us understand that vertical isn’t restricted solely to overall height.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

You’re welcome! I’m glad you found the process helpful ❤️

I think you identified yourself correctly because as soon as I looked at you & wondered about your Kibby type, my mind screamed flamboyant natural. I watched a lot of videos on this topic. While many explained the types well, almost none could explain the process of self identification accurately. You did a great job at that, & I am thankful for that. Looking forward to your future videos.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I'm glad you agree ❤️

I reallllly appreciated what you said about being short, but not petite. I'm 5'4 but I basically have the same frame as my 5'7 mother just with shorter legs lol! I've never felt quite little and delicate like other girls my height and shorter. It was so nice to hear from someone else they feel this way too! I was also a swimmer which didn't help with feeling bulky compared to my teeny delicate friends lol!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

YES I'm glad you agree! You can be short but not small, you know?!

As soon as you showed your favorite styles, I immediately knew you were a flamboyant natural. And I can relate to your experience being the "big" one as a 180 cm soft dramatic. I know there is plenty to criticize about Kibbe, but I've found it helpful in the process of healing my body dysmorphia.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

It’s really difficult to be objective about your own body 😢 but yes I definitely agree that systems like this help!

I'm also FN and was very lucky in figuring this out. I'm 6' so I knew I had to be specifically a tall type. Before I had even really grasped the concept, I had recognized myself in other FN examples. I do see the similarities between us despite the height difference and I also see vertical for you. You have the super likeable free spirit vibe for sure! And as someone else already said, a real gift for explaining.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Aw thank you so much! Yay FN sister ❤

@ellixrose2650

8 ай бұрын

@@stylemejenn FN sister😍🤝❤️🎊

I did a cut and paste side-by-side comparison of Flamboyant Gamine and Flamboyant Natural and when re-sized the difference is extremely subtle, the major stand out is longer arms proportonately in the Flamboyant Natural. I'd like to see Style Me Jenn come up with JENN's Body Type system where all body types are the same height, and torso or arms longer etc. to help clarify this stuff.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'm actually thinking of starting with Kitchener Essences - like certain proportions mean you have a certain essence?! Eventually it'd be lovely to get into body types and proportions in more detail as well :D

@user-iw4yl7fp9p

8 ай бұрын

that's because it's not about body type itself, but how clothes lay on it. flamboyant gamine will benefit from narrow fits and broken lines in clothing, whereas a flamboyant natural will benefit from less construction and a more continuous line. both can have any variation of length proportions as long as the overall shape is straight

I love the way you helped me understand these terms as used by Kibbe. I first read Kibbe’s Metamorphosis in the 1980’s, and was sooooo confused. I thought I had to be a gamine because I’m under 5’3”, too. I finally have determined, THIS YEAR!!!!, that I’m a soft natural, and it makes sense to me. Your explanations of vertical and width were the most helpful, but the others helped, too. I’m so glad I found your channel. Thanks, and congratulations on one year!🎉❤

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Jeanie! ❤️❤️❤️ I'm glad you found the explanations helpful :)

This is the most clear video I have seen on this subject yet. I think it's bc you went over your own thinking process through the characteristics for yourself instead of using celebrities, which have so many ways of metamorphosing, as examples! I almost didn't watch this bc I'd seen so many of these videos done the same way, but I wanted to see how you'd explain bc you really do have a good eye and express your thoughts really well. I'm glad I did.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Aw thank you! I'm glad it was helpful ❤️

I'm keen to watch your videos on Kitchener essences and the face. Regarding today's video, like you, I'm 5/3" and have width. (BTW I so relate to feeling like Hulkette when clothes are tight in shoulders and upper back.) However, since I do have curve, I'm Soft Natural in the Kibbe system. Months ago I went through the arduous process of the😁 Kibbe questionnaire and spent months in confusion, regarding whether I'm SN, Soft Classic, or Romantic (still don' t fully understand "double curve"). What actually helped me eliminate SC and R was trying on the clothes for those id's. Classic looks boring on me and Romantic feels too restrictive and like I'm trying too hard. I feel at home in Soft Natural, which I think is a key indicator in what Kibbe body type fits best.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I agree 100%! That's how I ruled out Flamboyant Gamine - I've been trying so hard for years to fit into the Gamine style of outfits but in the end I realized they're just not meant for me... :P

You're definitely a hidden gem in this space. How you don't have a million subscribers already, I don't know! Maybe doing shorts would boost your profile?? I wish you were in my country so I could book an in person consultation. Your knowledge is invaluable.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the compliment ❤❤❤ I'm only offering virtual consultations at this time so regardless of where you are, you can still book a consultation with me! :D

@UnPeuDeTourisme

Ай бұрын

Why you don’t try to be stronger?

Sometimes it is easier to work backwards with what you know looks good on you instead of figuring out your kibbe so you know what looks good on you. I think this approach might work best for me as well.

I would have said Flamboyant Gamine ... love your videos, always interesting.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Initially I landed on FG too! But the petiteness... lol.

What a fun journey to follow you along on! I’m 6’2” and it was obvious as soon as I looked it up that I was exactly a dramatic. Even when I was 50lbs heavier, I still looked slim and vertical-it just spread out evenly. I can fit a standard size L-XL for my chest in the shoulders well, even though I’m a very different shape than the frameworks they make these on. What often gets me is that my bust/waist is actually a petite length from my shoulders , so petite items often have the bust apex at the correct point length-wise for me, but my shoulders are more standard-width. For reference, I have the exact same trouser in-seam as my 7’ tall father. I’ve given up on trousers as a concept. I’m not sure if any of this helps define vertical, but I do feel like I’m a classic case study for it.

I was about to say classic you look very balanced on that picture, but if you struggle with shirts on the top then yes you nailed it you're a natural

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Width seems to be a characteristic that trumps other factors!

Well, this confirmed i def know my kibbe. I am a soft natural, my mother is a romantic, my older sister is a theatrical romantic and my little sister is a classic! This is really helpful and useful information for those who need a straightforward video to explain a very straightforward body analysis theory!

For the curve … I saw an explanation that made it clear to me. A lot of times, women who have a large bust and some meat on their hips think that means they have curve. Not necessarily. You showed a graphic in there that demonstrated the difference perfectly. If, looking head on, your bust makes your tops curve outwards to the side, that’s curve. If the hips have a roundness to them vs just width. My bust is larger but my tops still drape in a straight line on my sides from my shoulders, they don’t curve outwards around my bust and my hips have width to them, but they aren’t rounded. My pants and skirts will still drape in a vertical, they’re more of a rectangle shape than they are rounded. Vertical is absolutely the trickiest I think because there is a whole lot of combinations of proportions that can create it. Long torso but short legs with long arms (hands will hit below hips and be just below the top of the thigh when relaxed at your sides), or short torso (me) and long legs with moderate arms but the lower half of my arm bones are definitely longer than my upper arm bone and my fingers are long so it gives that length, for two examples. People get hung up on specific dimensions/measurements/proportions but it’s the overall effect. If in doubt, try on clothes with varying degrees of vertical and see how far you can push it before you look swamped or like the clothes are now separate from your body or go the other way and see how “choppy” or how much waist emphasis (which naturally sort of sections your body into halves) you can go with your clothes proportions before you begin to look detached from your clothes. I think you got your type exactly right. Fantastic overview.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! I really like the idea of trying on varying levels of vertical with clothing ❤️

It's a GIFT having broader shoulders than hips!!! I'm similar... and it helped me in BOTH competitive gymnastics and NATURAL bodybuilding!! My hips were always on the narrower side (34 ish), and that made me a GOOD SPRINTER and powerlifter (long arms!)!! The narrow hips empower a female to be more agile, powerful and athletic!! Add a tiny waist and C/D cups to this and you've got yourself a lean strong HOURGLASS shape!! An absolute gift!!

Oh, Kibbe... I didn’t understand the benefit of this typification for myself. It doesn’t apply to me or something. My friend (a fan of this type) is sure - she is a “romantic”. Well, it seems like yes, again based on typing. But in reality, all the recommendations for choosing clothes for a “romantic” look strange on her. Because she moves not like Marilyn Monroe, but like a sports fighter. I came to the conclusion that our style consists of important little things and details. And that our individuality is difficult to artificially “diagnose” based on our body shape.

@Leticia_b_ceratti

8 ай бұрын

That's so true !

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Fair point! Your mannerisms and how you carry yourself are certainly a significant part of your overall style!

I know I’m a little late to the party but I knew you were FN when I say the fits you showed in the beginning! As a fellow Natural, welcome ❤️

@stylemejenn

Ай бұрын

♥😆

Jenn and Kibbe! I’m in love!!! My girl don’t ever miss ✨

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

I’m genuinely so happy that you made a video about 😭❤️❤️❤️ I love the way you explain concepts so thank you so much

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Aw I'm glad you liked the video ❤️❤️❤️

Perfect timing! Loved it so much!❤

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Yay ❤️❤️❤️

Spot on. I feel like I had a difficult time analyzing my Kibbe type (SC) because I kept seeing people say that a lot of people mistakenly self type as SC because they see themselves as just average but then later they realize they’re something else. I eventually had an analysis done so I’d stop second guessing myself but like you, I find that I already dress for my body type and haven’t really changed much 🫠

@frangipanisandgirl

8 ай бұрын

Same here, also a SC, but I kept going between soft classic and soft natural for awhile. Haven't been professionally typed, but SC feels right based on how hard it is to find clothes that are balanced and just right, too much of anything just looks all wrong on me. I think we all instinctively know (to some degree) what works and what doesn't work for our unique bodies, but I like that Kibbe's system tells you why this works or that doesn't.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

We do instinctively know these things!! It’s just nice to have someone articulate why certain things work and don’t!

This was fantastic as are all your videos! It's so interesting to see somwone with Asian heritage as a FN since I feel like usually the examples are larger women of European decent which is obviously visually different. I think you explained the nuances sooo well and very succinctly!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad you liked the video! I did actually come across a similar but a bit of a simpler system that originated from Japan called "Skeletal Diagnosis" which I'm creating a separate video about! Perhaps for those with Asian heritage that are finding Kibbe difficult due to lack of similar examples, it would be helpful! :)

I found you a few days ago…..you are outstanding! You really know what you’re doing!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! Welcome to the channel ❤

Im so excited to see your take on this! Thank you for taking the time to make this video!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I hope you liked the video and my attempt / approach! ❤

@itsrosebennett

8 ай бұрын

@@stylemejenn I did! It was thorough and I really liked your process of elimination. ♥️

Loved this video so much that I can't wait for the next one!!!!! Notifications turned ON!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

GREAT video and explanation!!! I went down the Kibbe rabbit hole several months ago and came out more confused!?! Thank you for your succint explanation of the concepts. It was very helpful. Always enjoy your videos. Thanks for what do!💛🌻

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful for you! ❤️❤️❤️

Never heard of Kibbe...but looked it up as you were explaining. Your explanation was SO helpful.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'm so glad! ❤️❤️❤️

I like your explanation on the elimination! By the way It’s hard for me to tell whether I have “curve” or not since there isn’t Asian skinny examples at all. I have width in the shoulder like you, gain weigh at the bottom than top, small chest and waist, wide hips, long torso, flabby meat because I don’t exercise lol. I’m not sure if I’m petite, I think I just look normal? 😂 But wow! I’ve always thought that I lean more Yin, but your explanation is making me think maybe I’m more Yang than I thought

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'm actually prepping a follow-up video to this one to talk about another system that I found, and it was developed in Japan so I think you might be able to relate to it more! ❤

@TaLuLuDAY

8 ай бұрын

@@stylemejenn looking forward to that!❤️❤️

It's always interesting to see how people perceive their bodies and type themselves, especially because we tend to not be very objective about our bodies sometimes and, secondly, the Kibbe vocabulary can be quite confusing at first. but I really appreciate this system much more than the standard "fruit" classification because it does take into consideration what we have instead of how can we reach the "supposed golden standard" (which also changes from decade to decade). Funny, I would have typed you as .... Dramatic Classic. I'm not a Kibbe expert by any means and there are lots of factors that come into play with typing, but from the photo you posted (white top and black leggings) I struggle to see width, which is, as far as I understand (also as a self-proclaimed N girl:), would be the most prominent feature. I can totally get behind everything you say about the vertical and not being short/petite because these things are about the proportions more than the actual metrical height, but this again would lead you to the DC (balance + slight vertical). I also agree that you look more frame dominant than flesh-dominant, you do have some sharpness for sure, but it is not standing out THAT much. Finally, looking at the outfits you showed us, I would rather pick the tighter fitting black dress and top+skirt. The other two outfits seem to slightly overpower you because they have much more fabric. Please excuse me my little rant;) at the end of the day, everyone should wear what they like and feel comfortable in. But this again shows how different our perceptions could be

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Totally! I've also had comments saying that the black dress looks the worst on me, so it truly is interesting to see how different people's perceptions are. So far I'm getting people who agree that I'm a FN, or pure N, or SN, or DC like you, and even FG! LOL

@alexandrafialkovskaya8064

8 ай бұрын

@@stylemejenn haha, the typing can be all over the place, I agree! as people say, only Kibbe himself can type people with 100% accuracy, the rest of us are doomed to float over the entire spectrum with less understanding sometimes :D Technically I'm also cheating a bit with typing myself 'cause I think I'm more of a pure N than a SN (I keep looking for my curve, but still can't find it lol), so in the end I just decided that I should merge the recommendations of N and SN (sometimes also FN) and it results more or less in what outfits I like to see myself in. so far I've been very satisfied with the outcome;)

Hello Jean, thank You soo much, so interesting and helpful!💖 I am excited about next video!💖

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😃 I’m glad you found the video helpful ❤️

yours is my new favorite channel..... lots of love

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Aww thank you ❤ Welcome to the channel!

Excellent analysis, fully agree that you are a FN, bravo! Cant wait for your videos on Essences!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad you liked it! ❤️

I totally enjoyed this! (And I love your hair!!) I think do whatever feels right to you. To me for what it’s worth, I think you may be a dramatic classic. Dramatic classics also look great in oversized and streamlined. You could test it by seeing whether you look better with a lot of texture (a FN thing) or whether sleek makes you shine more ✨🩷

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I think I definitely feel “off” with sleek! My friends have commented about how I always select clothing based on texture so that’s a good indicator I guess! Thanks for this tip I loved it ❤️

the video I've been hoping for

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

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I could be wrong, but I'm not sure FN is right for you. I don't see Vertical, though I do see Width. From the photo it looks like you may have Lower Curve? From my understanding, Curve is when there is a roundedness consistent from the waist and around the upper or lower part of the body. If so, I might consider SN, since that's Curve and Width! I also wouldn't discount FG -- Petite can come from things like small hands and feet, shorter limbs, etc.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Many have also commented that I could possibly be pure N or SN! I still highly doubt FG for myself - not only are my bones not small I also have huge hands and I think also pretty long arms considering my height :P

Can’t wait till your schedule opens up I am ready to book my appointment at any time lol ❤

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Soooonnnnn ❤❤❤

Theresa Tapp's body type classification system was the only one where I could easily see my type. Height is not a factor. The classic figure 8 body type most likely is a short torso short leg type. Pear shapes tend to be long torso short leg types. Very simple. Kibbe system looks too complicated to me.

I already learned a lot about kibbe from other KZreadrs and directly guessed that you must belong in the natural category 😊. I feel you are having the natural vibe really. I am also natural, but probably soft natural. I was always relatively thin but never petite - when I work out, I gain muscles pretty fast. And I always was strong, also as a kid. It is not easy to have this body type when everybody around you has bust, butt and waist but to understand how to dress for and not against my body really helped me gain confidence and love my body as it is 😊

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

LOVE this comment thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Woo! I tested myself by guessing what type you'd be at the beginning of the video and guessed FN 🙌🏼 It probably helps that I'm FN too 😂😂 It's always kind of a relief to learn what works for our bodies. Thank you for taking us through your journey and walking us through the process you used to figure out which type you'd be :)

@stylemejenn

7 ай бұрын

Glad you liked the video! 🙌🏼🙌🏼

You have a lovely body shape! I’m 5’4, guessing a SC, but I am delicate and not strong at all. You look like you could open a jar easily and be able to do day to day stuff. That’s a compliment!!! My sister is the same- physically strong and I find that somewhat enviable because I have zero upper body or wrist strength. My husband feels very useful opening jars and carrying things for me. I hurt myself sometimes trying to do stuff. It’s annoying! Who cares about societal beauty standards when you can’t be as functional or useful!

@stylemejenn

6 ай бұрын

😂 yes I happen to be very strong, although I still ask my husband to do all the tasks you listed 😏

@UnPeuDeTourisme

Ай бұрын

Why you don’t try to be stronger?

Yyassssss, let’s get some kibbe recs!

You are my ideal guru! I am a flamboyant natural with light olive cool skin. Keep 'em coming!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video - yay Olive & FN sister ❤

while watching many of your videos i always thought you were a Flamboyant natural, your width was always obvious to me and you always seemed super tall so i was shocked to learn you were 5'3 but you nailed it by still knowing yourself so well and seeing your body clearly! great video Jenn 😜 i struggled between SD and FN for ages but knew i had Kibbe curve and love how I look, dressing in SD lines! So cool to see a FN dressing her way ! I think the biggest difference between the two; width vs curve is like you said you had to accommodate to your width your whole life whereas I've had to accommodate to my curves so things fitting my bust and hips more so when I became fleshy as a adult! sharp bones vs blunt bones can also help others but that can sometimes confuse people too! when i was a teenager my bones were very apparent and sharp like a true dramatic but for a FN the bones always remain blunt

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! ❤️ interesting to hear about flesh and curve changing - I guess it makes sense since our bodies don’t stop developing even in our 20s! You’re so right about it. I’ve always had these blunt edges in my shoulders even as a kid 😆

I think the Kibbe essence for FN, or N in general, really does fit the vibes of your channel. "Breath of fresh air" is quite apt.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Thank you ❤❤❤ so sweet!

Being able to compare yourself to family members and your peers is such an important concept. If you stand out as very different from any of them, it can give you a very skewed perception of yourself which you might only recognise in a different environment. Personally, I was exceptionally tall as a child and by the age of 11 was teased as being built like John Wayne or a wardrobe: later as an adult I realised that I was just slightly taller than the average, however after years of studying Kibbe, I still genuinely can't assess whether I have delicate or broad shoulders. It is very hard to look at yourself objectively.

this is so helpful!! as another asian person 5’3” and built like an angular toothpick, it was either dramatic or flamboyant gamine…but i felt like neither matched due to limitations of the descriptions. like you, i was always assumed to be taller than i was and was told i had those kinds of proportions. thanks to this walkthrough of your personal ID analysis, I was able to admit it the mounting evidence and figure out which ID fit me best!

@stylemejenn

7 ай бұрын

I'm glad the video helped! ❤

Yo yo yo I feel super lucky because I have almost exactly the same body type as you, Jenn lol! When you described yourself, I was mentally ticking all the boxes! Wide straight shoulders? Looks kinda tall despite being short? No curves at all? Lean looking? Clothes always tight at the armpits? Daaamn. This was all me! Now I don't have to analyze and just follow Flamboyant Natural haha! It's a start at least! It was so intimidating getting into Kibbe. It felt like it was too much information for me. In retrospect, I've always felt comfortable in relaxed cuts with flowy fabrics. I don't know why it never clicked until now! Thank you so much for being you and creating content!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I’m glad you were able to resonate with the video and it was helpful for you! ❤️

It’s nice to know that it’s possible to have an easy time with Kibbe 😭 I haven’t been able to figure it out at all, I’m average height but short waisted with long limbs and depending on the clothes I wear I can look tall, broad, or even curvy. So far I have only ruled out romantic and dramatic for myself but beyond that I could be anything. I can get compliments on most of my outfits, because I am into fashion and know how to put a look together… I think I’ll just focus on wearing whatever I think flatters me rather than trying to spend yet another year figuring out the elusive Kibbe ID sigh

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I think in the end Kibbe is only supposed to be a guide, and if you already know what flatters you and you're skilled at putting a look together, you're already so well equipped ❤

@Jen-sp9yu

8 ай бұрын

I struggle with the exact same thing! I've been recommended most types by others too. I guess it's good to be a chameleon though.

I'm glad you did a video on this. Kibbe confuses me so much! I've done the test multiple times and I get a pretty even distribution of answers. I can't tell if I am a Dramatic classic or a Flamboyant natural. I have broad shoulders like you but I'm tall then everything else about me is quite moderate (slight curve) aside from my face which is pure dramatic.😭 I give up LOL

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I was told that Kibbe test is not all that reliable! There were also some comments with opinions that I might be a DC instead of a FN. I think the differences can be subtle but one person said that if you look better in sleek styles that you are a DC, and if you're better suited for textures then you're a FN! Maybe that could help point you in the right direction ❤

you are actually the best

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

Very intelligent way of going about the identification! Wonderful! I completely understand about how to feels like to be "larger" among Asians. I'm Asian, barely 5ft 1, and have shoulders so broad that people think i sewed shoulder pads in my T-shirts! I have fleshy arms and a broad back too. And i'm surrounded by narrow shouldered, waif-like gal friends. (I'm Soft Natural.)

It's a shame that Kibbe missed the pure types. Natural would probably suit you best. FN was originally for taller women.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I did wonder about this at one point - if I'm closer to the pure type! But since getting rid of the pure types was because one has to lean towards one side at least a little more than the other, I guess I'm closer to FN than SN.

Omg the timing is perfect ! Thank you We are the same height and im comparing width and vertical to see if I have it ! Much easier than seeing it on a celebrity with heels or someone taller than me

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Agreed - I found it really difficult to use celebrities as reference points!

I’ve had a hard time trying to determine if I’m soft natural or a variation of gamine. I need to dive into it more and your explanation and process is very helpful!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad you found the video helpful! ❤

I think kibble is a lot about perception and not actual numbers or perfect measures. I’m aTheatrical Romantic male 5’9 and when i first saw you I would’ve never said you were shorter than 5’7 and that shows how you may look big but not actually be big! Other man that are the same height as I am and are more on the yang side don’t look as petite and delicate like I do, so don’t get too caught up on the height thing! And by the way I think you’re a flamboyant natural, even as a male I can’t wear these baggy outfits and not look like I’m being dragged down to hell lol

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I want to examine Kibbe ID's for men more! So interesting ❤️

This was such a great video on Kibbe Body Typing! I initially assumed I was a gamine but it turns out that I'm a soft classic!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad you liked the video! ❤

I am 6’1” and have been professionally typed as a flamboyant natural without actually understanding all of the nuances, calculations and rationale behind Kibbe typing. I just accepted my categorization and have been working towards styling myself accordingly ever since. Anyhow, I saw your full-body picture and thought “Jenn actually looks just like me!” Got to the end of your vid and HA, guess we both nailed it 😂💛 very glad I found your channel last week, been binging you nonstop since then!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Haha yay FN sister ❤ Welcome to the channel!

I got ID’d as a Flamboyant Natural too. Would love to get your style tips on how to dress for this Kibbe body type 😊

Totally agree with your analysis

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad you agree! ❤

flamboyant natural was actually the first thing that came to mind when I thought about your image id, even though I could only see your upper half.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I’m glad you agree!

Yup after a lot of studying I realized I am dramatic/theatrical romantic. Go figure!! It really helped me to find clothing that works for me Great video !! I really love your channel

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! I’m glad you liked the video ❤️

Never been this early!❤ Kibbie is hereeeee

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

You're the first ❤❤❤❤❤

Yeah, Jen. You look 5’7”. 😊 Congratulations on your 1 year anniversary, btw! 🙂🎉 Did you get a hair cut? I did last Saturday! ☺️ I wanted to get a hush cut, but I’m not so sure it’s appropriate for someone with naturally very curly hair. 😅 So I did something suitable for me and similar enough and just got a lot of layers. ☺️

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!! I didn't get a haircut but it's grown out quite a bit so I tried styling it a little differently. I'm def due for a haircut, and even though I have straight hair I'm afraid the hush cut would be too messy and a lot of maintenance... I do have layers as well and this time around I'm thinking of getting a loose perm to keep the ends neat ❤

Very helpful thank you ❤

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

You’re welcome 😊

Great, great video! I love your style and I think it suits you very well! I've been frustrated with the Kibbe system because I just can't seem to figure out what I am, haha. I'm still confused, but the concept of width clicked when you explained it, I've never heard anyone else talk about it like you did! I definitely have that, and that's what prevented me from completely identifying with the romantic type although otherwise it sounded like me. I too have "swimmer shoulders" which are the opposite of sloped or tapered. I also don't have short arms or legs. I have wide hips with a full booty and a narrow waist and proportionate volume in my boobs (so an hourglass figure with my broad shoulders). But I do NOT look like Marilyn 🤣 I only know for sure I'm not gamine or dramatic. Nothing petite about me expect for my height. I'm about 163 cm (5 ft 4" I think) but with significant width. I don't feel that "big" but it's crazy how massive I look next to my mom who is built very differently. I'm broad and curvy and she's not, I'm also taller than her and probably look even taller in comparison than I actually am. After watching your video I think I'm a mix of soft natural and romantic because I have key features of both. I've noticed that highlighting my waist and décolleté works well in my favor and I can very rarely pull off anything oversized. I'm also not wearing pants unless they're high waisted. 😆I think the single most flattering garment on me is a long, flowing wrap dress with a deep v-neck and long bishop sleeves. I don't know what it is about those kind of sleeves that look particularly good on me, maybe they balance out the shoulder width? I can recommend anyone with an hourglass figure to try out wrap dresses, they will look amazing, plus sizes included.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I was also guessing Soft Natural just based on your description! Naturals are the only type with width, but soft naturals have width + curve :)

Yeeees, finally i understand the term "width". O. My. God. Thanks!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad it was helpful! ❤️

I did the test a few times, and came out the same as you, but because I'm only 5ft2 .5 I thought it couldn't be correct, I too have broad shoulders and slim straight hips.

I have narrowed my type down to Soft Dramatic but I think that if I wasn't excluded from the classic family because of my height I'd go for that. I'm 176cm tall so I can't be any of the classics and I'm flesh dominant so that only leaves SD. I'll watch this video a few more times and see if I can be more sure. I like the lines from both types so I suppose I can just mix and match

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Kibbe is meant to be used as a guideline only anyway. If you're comfortable with lines from both types mixing & matching sounds like the way to go ❤️

Yay kibbe! The problem I’ve had with this system is everyone’s slightly different interpretation of it. Recently I found a small yt channel that seems to be really cut and dry about clarifying what is what. Maybe you already ran across her while on the hunt, it’s just yet another perspective which is always helpful. I am so happy you touched on this topic! Can’t wait for your Q & A! I edited to add my personal opinion on the outfits! I feel like out of the 4 outfits the black dress was doing the least for you. Objectively you look lovely overall and I’m not good at explaining things but something about it seemed less harmonious with YOU where as the others seemed to be more shaped to you and with you. Maybe I’m the only one 😅 also I feel like the head to toe look is a big part of kibbe ID and having your head in the shots would help make a more informed observation. I could be wrong :)

@shirin9452

8 ай бұрын

Oooh who is it 😊 I am wondering if I know the channel

@ekaterinal8631

8 ай бұрын

@@shirin9452 Just looked it up because I couldn’t remember lol, her channel is called “Style Chat”! Unfortunately she doesn’t post very consistently

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I got lazy and didn't wear makeup / do my hair when I filmed the B-rolls teeheeee ❤️ I did come across Style Chat while doing my research! I liked the explanations - very to the point!

@ekaterinal8631

8 ай бұрын

@@stylemejenn haha that’s what I figured, hair and makeup is such a hassle. At least you filmed the outfits so we can see examples

I have seen Shirley MacLaine and Audrey Hepburn classified as "gamine," but both actresses were 5'7"! Gamines are usually described as "short"!

Could you tell us more about styles like Dark Academia, Cottage Core, etc...

I just discovered your channel and find it very interesting. Can you tell me what the best method is for measuring your face shape and features? I've tried several ways without satisfaction. Thank you for all your information.

I have a similar build, except I would say I have much more width than you, but I still landed on flamboyant natural as my type. I’m also close to your height, so this makes me think I’m on the right track. Thanks!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I’m glad you resonated with the video! 😆❤️

Lol I didn't go down the rabbit hole at all, thankfully. Just search Kibbe for the first time this morning after hearing it out a lot without ever checking it out. The search result led me to The Concept Wardrobe explanation of Kibbe archetypes and the quiz to figure out your archetype. I read the explanation and did the detailed quizzes as instructed. Found out I'm a Soft Classic. Couldn't be happier about it 😂. I did a calculation of my face type before and landed on Gamine makeup and Cute style because of my face features. But couldn't really resonate well with the Cute style honestly. Thankfully Kibbe combines both bones, flesh, and faces characteristics to reach an archetype. My bone structure has more Yang characteristics (I also have straight figure with broad and sharp shoulders) but my flesh, delicate curves on the waist, and face features are screaming more Yin energy especially the face features. That's how I become the Soft Classic. The result really justify my experience and is easy to pull off. I love flowy fabrics the most because I live in a summer country. So, my Kibbe discovery experience only lasted a few hours compared to others. Not sure about you though but your chest is definitely more Yin than me. My chest is smaller and flatter. And I think my bones are thinner and sharper than yours. Even your hip is curvier than mine. It's only your waist that is more straight and probably that contributes the most to your Yang characteristic on the bone structures side. For the rest, I could still see Yin characteristic on you, especially your face. But not sure how the waist shape would affect the overall result too because I just followed the calculation in a single morning 😌. Though I think it's more about the overall balance.

If you're confused, and you know a lot, 5hen its no wonder so many of us are. Im not Asian, but for Asians, I don't think the height limits should apply. Maybe not for anyone as it is all relative to your individual proportions. I believe I'm a TR.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I was wondering about the height limit specifically for Asians, but I've also heard that Kibbe is supposed to be universal so that was another confusing factor for me lol!

I'm kinda fat(size 18/20) and I kept getting stuck in thinking I had curve because my waist was smaller than the rest of me. Then I remembered my shoulders are out more than my hips at a healthier weight. I also have vertical even though I'm 5'5". I think I'm either a natural(he got rid of it but I prefer the original book that has pure types) or dramatic classic. Which narrows it down. Thanks for this!

Great video. I've got the same problem with stuff not fitting around the shoulder/chest area - and my cup size is very very small. You look like a natural kibbe type to me, but it may be that because you actually look taller than you are, you are a flamboyant natural type.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Some people have commented that I could be a pure Natural although KIBBE did get rid of the pure types. I think between FN and SN I lean more towards FN!

@crocolagerfelden6142

8 ай бұрын

@@stylemejenn It seems that the Kibbe system is still a work in progress. One may say that the "soft" and "flamboyant" subtypes are too strict as well. A lot of confusion with height being a key indicator. It is an interesting model, but I think with so many people being somewhere in the middle, learning about proportions as such would be more useful, than a cookie cut approach like Kibbe. This is why I like your work so much, because you seem to focus on individual traits rather than gross generalisations.

I always knew you were a natural! But I thought soft natural I guess cuz I had never seen ur body before. I’m also a flamboyant natural ❤

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Yay FN sisters ❤️

We love him

I would have guessed soft natural for you but I can also see why you placed yourself into FN. A video with your preferred outfits would be interesting to see! Thank you for your great videos!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad you liked the video! Lots of people have actually been commenting that I seem more like a pure Natural ❤

hi can you do a video on makeup styles suited for each kibbe id

I think vertical is associated with long limbs/ height /long neck/long torso. I think Width and curve are very similar its where are your bones the widest ? Shoulders or shoulders/back or chest/hips or just hips ? Yes FN makes sense for you ,you have elongation in your face and I think you have ethereal essence which seems to be more common in dramatics and naturals and i dont think its possible to be anything other than a natural type if you have width in back and shoulders like an upside down triangle.x

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Agreed! I think the width really gives it away for me. I'm eager to learn more about Kitchener essences and specifically the Ethereal essence because other people have also commented about seeing it in my face ❤

@Carrie-sgda

8 ай бұрын

​@@stylemejennyeah, it's really fun and interesting to get into ,you should do a video like this one and let us know how you get on and your essences x

I started to fool around with Kibbe, but it got too complicated. I landed on Flamboyant Natural, but I could be a Dramatic, too, at 5'10" height. As a young woman, I was 30 pounds lighter than I am now in my 60s, but my height mitigates my horizontal, and people read me as slim, or at least never as overweight. But at the end of the day, like you, I like what I like, and prefer to wear my clothes over letting my clothes wear me!

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

Yes! All these different theories are mere guidelines at the end of the day ❤

Wow, you're lucky. I'm in this rabbit hole for almost 4 years now and I STILL can't figure out my type! The first thing I ruled out was width, and at 5'6 I'm probably not a Gamine either. Narrowness was the thing that resonated with me most, and I initially thought curve but now I'm thinking what I really need might be structure and the tight fits rather than actual curve accommodation.

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I wonder if you'd be a Dramatic Classic based on your description?

@nitzan3782

8 ай бұрын

@@stylemejennIt would have been an option had I not been overwhelmingly narrow. Don't Dramatic Classics also have some width to them?

The moment I saw your full body pics I knew you would be a natural. I’m 5 8 (173cm) and typical text book FN and I almost have the identical width in bones. Even when I lose weight I still have a significant size in clothes because I need it in the shoulders. I don’t know how you feel as a flamboyant natural but people always think I work out or are more athletic than I actually am because I already look strong in default. When I start working out I gain muscle visually very quickly. (Not sure if that has to do with my type or just physiological factors)

@stylemejenn

8 ай бұрын

I cannot agree more about people assuming I work out a lot when literally I haven’t gone to the gym in forever 🤣 Especially my shoulders and arms you immediately notice the muscular appearance!! Totally resonate 💯

Love this!!! I’d be curious to understand more about why you think Flamboyant Natural instead of just Natural. I went down the Kibbe rabbit hole a few years ago and while I understood there’s exceptions to the height/vertical criteria, it seems like regular Natural could be a closer fit for you(?) Sarah Jessica Parker is a very obvious Flamboyant Natural height exception example because of her super long face with angular, blunt features. But to me taking your face into account it seems less clear? Love your style, it seems to work really well for you!!

@k.c.3022

7 ай бұрын

Edit: I didn’t realize Kibbe had gotten rid of the pure types! Nevermind!! 😂 Flamboyant Natural for sure makes more sense than Soft Natural!

@stylemejenn

7 ай бұрын

Haha some people did say I look more like a pure Natural (yes, they're gone but still)! Between FN and SN I do feel I lean a little more towards FN, but others have also commented that I could be SN so it seems we can at least agree that I'm somewhere in the Natural family 😂