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@c.wrightcreativeautochtone2574

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve i question about this... I played this game but it basically was just a seek and find.

@warriormaiden9829

4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to suggest a bit of a shortcut to make perfect, tapered spirals. Get a chopstick that is about the same size as your braid end. Wrap the wire around the chopstick to desired length, then trim the ends, smooth, and flatten in. Slide off the chopstick, and proceed with styling. :)

@wynnew.h5245

4 жыл бұрын

You finally got me (to be fair, Bernadette and Rachel laid a good groundwork) and I was surprised by how much I like this game!

@cayenigma

4 жыл бұрын

How about twisting the spiral so the top end of it bites inside the braid, would that hold better?

@FoxVox

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if they used the spiral to cinch a knot? When I braid or fingercurl my hair I often finish it with a figure 8 knot. I tried this with a homemade spiral and it captures and stays great!

Ancient hairdresser - "You can have the braid or the braid."

@florenna

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, except that there weren't any hairdressers as such, everyone was their own hairdresser (the way I prefer it to be nowadays, too - who needs hairdressers?!) :D

@elisibethjames7488

3 жыл бұрын

@@florenna I think that they know; it’s a joke

@thesimplifestyle2022

3 жыл бұрын

you know what? I'm going to be bold today, I want the braid!

@helema23

3 жыл бұрын

@@florenna actually the women did each others hair...

@shirleybecker495

3 жыл бұрын

@That creepy family you're right and given the time period before 350BCE the wealthy had slaves that did everything for them.

Spoiler: The ancient women totally called their spiral 'doodleydoo'. Is the authentic term.

@MorganDonner

4 жыл бұрын

It is Known. 👌

@Mrkva22296

4 жыл бұрын

which ancient women? which geographical area and what language? because apparently, not all "ancient women"

@swamp6825

4 жыл бұрын

Slovak Vids I cant tell if you’re serious but Kathleen was joking

@graceignacio306

4 жыл бұрын

Whatever it is called. I want one haha

@galthea

3 жыл бұрын

@@graceignacio306 there are some again in her etsy shop right now!

For a second when you said "I couldn't find anywhere that sells them." My monkey brain jumped to 'Ah, yes. Grave robbery.'

@patchworkundead4787

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@desireeguillot8003

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@corvidwyrm4113

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@bloketu

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@calip08

2 жыл бұрын

Same

The second hair style had me thinking, did they have hair nets at the time? Because I can see a decorative hair net being used to keep the bun in place. Like a round or square crocheted net that's a little bigger than the bun would be. Because it was made of natural fibers it wouldn't have survived in the grave.

@bustedkeaton

3 жыл бұрын

Yea of course! Even in ancient greek times they used hairnet/snoods called sakkos. Crispines i think are what they called them in western europe in the 14th c? I was talking about this with my wife last night, and I suggest the ones that people recreate as metal cages over the hair were actually beaded wire, or even just gilded thread.

@libbybollinger5901

3 жыл бұрын

The Venus of Brassempouy, which is an ivory figurine from the Paleolothic, has been argued to represent a hairnet-type hood, and the Skrydstrup woman, a bog body from roughly 1300 BC featured a sprang (the technique) horse-hair hairnet covering her hairstyle. The Egtved Girl, a bog body estimated to be from 1370 BC, was also found with a box that contained a hairnet.

@corvuscorone7735

3 жыл бұрын

@@libbybollinger5901 I was just going to say that sprang nets were a definite thing :D

@bonniehowell6604

10 ай бұрын

Like a snood, used in Victorian days.

Morgan, "I'm getting weird." Me, "Yes, I am here for this, please continue." Morgan, "I had a manufacturer make hairpins for me." Me, "YES, YOU DID GET WEIRD AND THIS IS THE BEST WEIRD OF ALL TIME. HELL YES EXPERIMENTAL HAIR ARCHEOLOGY YES YES YES YES YES YES"

@sarahschmidt2782

4 жыл бұрын

I 👏🏻 am 👏🏻 here 👏🏻 for 👏🏻 weird👏🏻 🙌🏻 💕😁

@nobody1k

4 жыл бұрын

Yessss! Bring on the weird! Love!

@januzzell8631

4 жыл бұрын

Weird is good! Researched weird is even better :D

@Stettafire

4 жыл бұрын

I'm so here for this :D My wierdness has been browsing old metOffice data, it just makes me so happy seeing the weather changing over time and seeing people's notes about what the weather was doing. It's kinda calming. Like the weather is the one thing that will always be there, no matter how crazy the world.

@catzkeet4860

4 жыл бұрын

This is weird??......ok.......(oh and Janets KZread page is very cool. The styles are so interesting, particularly the information about hair sewing)

I can explain the popularity of the centre part: it's the most comfortable with long hair! Hair is heavy, so having it part in the middle puts less stress on the top of the head as both sides fall evenly instead of one side needing to go over the head and have the hair pull that bit of scalp up. Plus, more hairstyles are possible.

@windyhawthorn7387

3 жыл бұрын

That makes sense. I have had an center part my whole life. And if I try to move it or brush it out It hurts.

@emilychb6621

3 жыл бұрын

But if the pony tail is in the centers wouldn't the hair all just go back as well? Like I just brush the hair all over straight back and then tie it. There's no central gap where you can see the scalp, but the hair are still mostly parallel.

@adorabell4253

3 жыл бұрын

@@emilychb6621 It might work if you always did that but I feel like it would only work for a high pony tail or braid. I'm not sure, though, since I have always had a part so I can't test it, my hair will just want to fall sideways. What's interesting is that I've recently chopped my hair off into a bob and changed the part. It took a few days for it to settle down and even after it kept migrating back towards the centre. I've had to re-do the part a few times.

@carolilseanne2175

3 жыл бұрын

Easier when it's long to do 2 halves of hair than one - you don't have your arms up so uncomfortably! 😊😊

@J0k394

3 жыл бұрын

Hm. Uneven split braids are uncomfortable, but for a ponytail or single braid straight back puts least pressure on my hair.

The heads of the pins become a beautiful addition to the hairstyles, unlike the double pin which just disappears. Very nice! Would love to have pins like those.

@katrina2931

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same.

@Iera_Thaumaturgy

2 жыл бұрын

Same, they’re lovely

@Rockieswoobie

Жыл бұрын

Same

@aliciacuoco8273

Жыл бұрын

Ditto. As di I

@THandP_org

Жыл бұрын

I have collections of various hair sticks, after taking Mandarin in high school (decades ago). My teacher taught history in addition to language, and if memory serves, hair stick usage and design peaked in the Song Dynasty, but date all the way back to 3000 BC😳 Design, and how they were worn, indicated class, age, and marital status or availability. Royal women could be punished by having their hair sticks taken away, and married couples would break the "double stick" or Lover's Hair Stick if they had to be separated for any length of time, and then put the pieces together when finally reunited. Some hair sticks were worn to enhance proper posture, and coming of age ceremonies were "stick ceremonies" and a girl was gifted her first pair of hair sticks to become a woman. I love studying various cultures via the lens of hair... Lots of history in the Nations of the Southwest regarding hair, as well.

I'm an archaeology student at the university of Vienna, and I've actually had the pleasure to look at many of these grave goods irl. I'm so excited about this video. Side note: I'm pretty certain that these pins weren't a day to day thing, since women were actively working in the salt mines (we can see that from marks on the skeletons from the grave field) as the people who carried the 'backpacks' (also very interesting to google since we have some amazingly preserved ones) full of ore out of the mine, but to my knowledge, we don't know of hairpins or the spirals found in the mines, and they seem to be something that at least from time to time would be lost on the way out of a dark cave. So yeah, I feel like they're more of a special occasion thing.

@aliciaolivas797

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I think that ribbon was probably used to tie the ends of the hair or possibly hair stick like pins made from wood for bringing the hair up. More than likely is they probably had their hair tucked into a snug cap to keep their hair clean. Who knows, but it’s always interesting to theorize about.

@KelseyDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

That's really cool. Thanks for commenting! :)

@riverjohnson6024

2 жыл бұрын

I think maybe too the pins were used in a way that was both functional and decorative. Sort of evenly placed around the head with the tops of the pins showing instead of unevenly placed for only functionality. It would explain why some had so many in the grave when about 8 would be more than enough to hold the hair?

@JK-vi9gd

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe for poorer people they were made out of wood and are not preserved today? The hair must have been kept up somehow for working and keeping it clean.

@fuzzytheduck6821

Жыл бұрын

Do you think they were purely funerary or the women were buried in their formal wear?

Just imagine 3000 years from now some futuristic version of Morgan analyzing our hair ties, brushes, scrunchies, and butterfly clips

@themombat1193

3 жыл бұрын

Please don't bury me with a scrunchy!

@merionesunguiculatus6049

3 жыл бұрын

@@themombat1193 😂

@BlackjackaandHookers

3 жыл бұрын

"Today we're going to explore how people secured their hair before Hair Lasers."

@evie402

3 жыл бұрын

Istg if someone buries me with a scrunchie I'll rise from the dead just to strangle them.

@nb1571

2 жыл бұрын

Not if they take it off my body- I won’t be happy

Morgan: "Graves are the COOLEST THING" Me: Morgan Donner x Caitlin Doughty Historical Fashion in Graves collab????

@sunriseeyes0

4 жыл бұрын

OMG YES THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!!!!!

@sillykino

4 жыл бұрын

THAT WOULD BE AMAZING

@Anna-Michelle744

4 жыл бұрын

More likes for this, it must be seen

@4492

4 жыл бұрын

Ooooooooh!!!! Yes please!

@kimberly_erin

4 жыл бұрын

Yessssssssss

As a person who went off to study archaeology for 4 years, specifically because I was obsessed with the Celts from Halstatt to late La Tene, I love you. Thanks for doing this.

Here are some of my ideas, not so many though (sorry): What if they wrapped the end braided hair sort of around the coil you made, instead of pulling their end of the hair through the whole coil? Hallstatt in Austria is known for a huge Celtic settlement over a very long period of time. I am Austrian and have dug into this old culture when I was still living close to Hallstatt. These people also did almost everything by incorporating salt. They even made ice using salt. So it could also be possible, that women from those days used salt dissolved in water to kind of thicken their hair or prepare the hair for better use with these pins and the coil. Salt crystals behave similar to sugar crystals when dry and hard. Or maybe the coil was more a cultural or a decorating object with only a little functional use as a tool? We must not forget, that the Hallstatt Celts were extremely rich due to their salt. Their society was a thriving society, that also brought up lots of arts and many more cultural objects. Because of the salt they had many contacts to other people and so we maybe also need to have a closer look at how the Germanic women wore their hair in those days. We also know, that salt and gold from the celts in Hallstatt were found in the north, also in graves. They must have influenced one another also concerning their styles. Are there similar findings in the north of Europe? I read recently, that again new graves and also rune stones were found.

@iHadSomethingForThis

2 жыл бұрын

This deserves a lot more likes than the one I can give

@ashleyduckworthyt3224

Жыл бұрын

I agree about the coil thing. In MY brain, they would’ve pulled the end of the braid through the end like she did but then wrap the end sticking out around the coil.

@lisasternenkind6467

Жыл бұрын

@@ashleyduckworthyt3224 Right

@ah5721

Жыл бұрын

in aloe growing places it make excellent gell, in other places some gelatinous seeds like flax and can be turned into gell too, not to mention grease with perfume = pomade then use a fine flouer as oil absorber and viola stiff hair !

Metals that oxidise often come with a protective coating applied by the manufacurer, which is meant to be removed by the final customer. I don't know about brass hair pins, but steel cookware almost always has a heavy waxy coating applied to keep the utensil in good shape during shipping and storage.

@kaylat.9104

4 жыл бұрын

This! Especially since the tarnish on brass/bronze is green and stains nicely. Hehehe

@Musicwarmsmysoul

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this. I honestly would have thought that the spring/spiral would have been a place to secure your pin ends when it's in a bun, but that wasn't what they found and you showed why. I wonder if there are examples at blacksmith shops of the same age of tools that could be used to manipulate wire quickly and easily into the spiral shapes and/or casting the pins: I can imagine ancient smithys making these out of left over bits of bronze and selling them on a little display a la scrunchies made out of quilting scraps and sold in a little display at the side of a table at a craft fair! Love the skewer pin idea. :)

@simplyvince1744

4 жыл бұрын

I was about to comment something similar. I purchased some aluminum wire (14 gauge? 12? On the heavier side anyway, something you don't usually find at craft stores) at a hardware store a few years ago and it came coated in some sort of black greasy substance. I suppose because aluminum is one of the metals that oxidizes the quickest (aluminum oxide just happens to be the same color so it isn't noticable visually) but maybe just something to do with the machines making it.

@Desi-qw9fc

3 жыл бұрын

You’re probably right because the coating just came off with soap and a towel (it looks like), but coatings could be deliberate too. Lots of blacksmithed items were rubbed with oil while still hot, which makes the oil soak into the oxide layer. The final object isn’t oily, but is protected from rust and handling. The same process is used these days, like you cold-blue an item to form the oxide layer and then rub it with oil. Stuff that isn’t protected like this can rust in annoying ways, like your fingerprints can rust into the surface.

"They're still able to... Pierce the Veil" Me: *flashbacks to emo/rock phase*

@amastyn_1106

4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only who thought of that lol

@sarahlabbe9779

4 жыл бұрын

I came here for that exactly

@Betsyschugar

4 жыл бұрын

the remnants of my thirteen year old self JERKED to attention

@rockz_in_a_box1841

4 жыл бұрын

Me, an alt kid: *literally chokes*

@ari6631

4 жыл бұрын

Omg same

I legit would pay for the recreation ones though... the styling is amazing and would look so good in bridal hair with the almost stud look on completion.

As an archaeologist this pleases me greatly :D what you were saying about context (are these everyday styles/pins? Special occasion? or even purely for burial?) is so KEY in every archaeological site and its associated artefacts and features. Thoroughly enjoyed your experimental archaeology jaunt! :D

As a hairdresser in the late 60s and mid 70s, when you said criss cross pins, I immediately thought of the placement in a classic French twist. We would place one pin at an angle downward, then pin very near in an upward slant. This would lock the pins in the hair and they would NOT come out. While you worked with braids exclusively, I would think that a simple twisted hair coil would have been entirely possible with the pins securing it up the center of the head, rather like a hot dog bun. Stupid visual, but you get the idea.

@TempestPhaedra

4 жыл бұрын

definitely going to try crossing my pins like that next time I attempt a french twist. It's my favorite style but I gotta do it over and over until it finally holds because I haven't figured out optimal placement yet

@user-dg7st6io1c

4 жыл бұрын

@@TempestPhaedra My wife use a hair rat for her French twist, it helps with her thin hair she said. Maybe it might help you too.

@m.maclellan7147

4 жыл бұрын

My hair is thick and heavy. To do any updo my hair needs to be damp and twisted.

@pauletier62

4 жыл бұрын

I am a trained hairdresser and the crossing-the-pins is like the most mandatory thing about bridal updos. :D

@debraadkins-brown399

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!

Morgan, you are a fashion influencer. I want those pins now.

@MorganDonner

4 жыл бұрын

They are surprisingly darn cute!

@theeesie3380

4 жыл бұрын

Right?! Where can I buy them? I need them for reasons.

@stinepetersen861

4 жыл бұрын

Me too ❤️

@brooke_reiverrose2949

4 жыл бұрын

Me three!

@emmassolar7983

4 жыл бұрын

Me four!! I want some too!!

So I am a metal smith and I am super excited to forge some of these items! I've been trying to make historical items like fibula and penannular Broochs, roman style rings and slide pins, now I can add these to my list!

@beemel5734

Жыл бұрын

Do you have an etsy page, perchance? I've been searching for some nice looking braid/plait fasteners, like the coil one she has here, but they either have no hole at the end of the tip for a bit of braid end to come out, or they aren't tapered at all, rather designed for adorning locs. Which...I'm white, so I don't feel comfy about that, lol And also, I'm afraid that my hair texture, while still thick and curly, is a little too fine to hold up a thick iron coil, as I've seen in some shops. I'm trying to get away from using elastics because I've heard they're not the greatest for healthy curls, plus I'd like to imbue my beauty routines with a bit more of the culture of my various peoples. Being largely of Scottish and Danish ancestry (and knowing how much the Celts and Vikings LOVED self adornment) I feel like this would be the perfect fit for hair like mine, since it's probably pretty similar to hair textures they would've had (def in Scotland)! Let me know if you do have a shop anywhere online, and if you've made any braid fasteners like the ones shown in the vid! I'd be happy to give them a whirl!

@infamyinfamy

Жыл бұрын

@@beemel5734 me too I'd love the coils to wear on the ends of my plaits.

@garnettekken

2 ай бұрын

I would also like to know if you have a shop as my hair is now long enough that i wear it in two braids

The "buns over the ears look" has also a practical reason, as it would have keept the ears warm in winter..

@sallyshott4419

Жыл бұрын

earmuffs!

"you can't pin through the ear" Me. With multiple piercings: is that a challenge

@amyjones2490

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe thats how ear piercing started. A misplaced hair pin.

@sillykino

4 жыл бұрын

@@amyjones2490 that sounds like something I would do (I'm very clumsy)

@athenadominguezcastillo2752

3 жыл бұрын

This is hilarious, I'm surprised she didn't see this and like it XD

@GamerNerdess

3 жыл бұрын

Why did I read that in the voice of Mufasa? 🤣

@djterry1218

3 жыл бұрын

@@GamerNerdess hahahah😂😂😂 mUfasA likEs GrAvEs

For my wedding, I wanted to add pearls to my hair. All the modern options (spirals and U-Pins with pearls) didn't quite do the trick for me, because I couldn't quite control were the pearls would finally end up in my hairstyle, because the pearl would be sunken in to the hair. On the other hand, if the position of the pearl was perfect, often parts of the pin or the spiral would peak out and who wants that in their wedding hair... So I resorted to the simple long, single pin presented here. I got a bunch of pearled ones from a flower shop where they are often used for bouquets and such things. They were super cheap and work amazingly well! Might also be an option if someone wants to give it a try :) If I wanna look festive, I use these pins and find them so easy and secure to use :)

@imasinnerimasaint

3 жыл бұрын

That's a great idea!

@teresaellis7062

3 жыл бұрын

Oooh, I will see if the local flower shop has some! I don't usually wear jewelry, but I like your idea.

@riverkoi8707

3 жыл бұрын

This is such a good idea omg!

@KelseyDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

I used those spiral pearls in my grad hair and I felt they were too sunk in. I may hunt down those floral ones! Just for fun though because I don't go to fancy places lol

@LacrimaPhoenix

2 жыл бұрын

@@KelseyDrummer Never too late to have a fancy trick up your sleeve. Who knows what they might be good for :)

I actually use something very similar(the spiral) in my braids. I know that i’ve seen a lot of pictures of ancient African women wearing it and other beautiful “hair jewelry”

Just a pro tip when working with soft/precious wire and you don't have any soft jaw pliers, you can put a bit of masking tape over the jaws to protect your wire from dents and scratches. If you want to get fancy some scrap leather booties, or whatever soft thick material you've got also works, and is worth doing if you're going to use this technique often. I wish I had friends like you. I could imagine some fun creative times bonding and trading tips 😍🌹🌿

I want to point out the painstaking process the archaeologist put in to bring you that information. Admire the excavation work that brought you the exact configuration of these really tiny pins in situ. The archaeologist had to kneel with a trowel, and probably a dental pick, to slowly uncover each of these pins without moving them so they could see exactly how they were positioned. Not only were they photographed, then they were drawn in the excavation to make sure it was all captured correctly (making assumptions) I have looked at the article, but I haven't read a translation yet, but there were a lot of great diagrams. I also want to bring this PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE: Context is fundamental. Artifacts out of context are pretty---pretty damn useless. Looters are monsters. If they had found this site before trained scientists, all of this would have been lost. To repeat: artifact thieves are monsters. (I LOVE THAT YOU HAD THESE PINS MADE---THAT IS SO COOL)

@tracynail4432

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely they are! When I was hiking in Arizona (can’t remember where) we had to call a number and report our location and our find, and sit and wait for them to show up, if we found anything at all artifacty. If it wasn’t anything worth while, you could potentially keep it. I have a piece of clay with a cross on it, about the size of my thumb. Most of the time, we had to turn things over.

@drhelenloney1426

4 жыл бұрын

yes, the care and time it took to excavate the Hallstadt graves in the 19th century was astonishing. Metal detecting, sorry folks, would have removed these without even realizing they were attached to a person, nine times out of ten. See what careful excavation brings you?

@athenadominguezcastillo2752

3 жыл бұрын

Since they were metals could they have scanned the area with slight radiation first and found the metal in the pins, figured out their placement, and then carefully and painstakingly pulled them out?

@tarabound

3 жыл бұрын

@@athenadominguezcastillo2752 ​ I don't know if the technology is able to have that detailed a view. The majority of work we do is with ground penetrating radar, it can give us ideas for large things, but nothing small. Even when we do have the GPR, we can't see anything while we are there. It has to be taken back to a strong computer and each bit of the image has to be compiled. A second problem is, even if technology that is able to pinpoint such small objects is available, most archaeologists do not have the budget to have access to that equipment. Usually, the old fashion way is the only way. That being said, we do have some really cool equipment we can use sometimes. Laser scanning the environment can give us some really cool 3D images that we can virtually walk through later, the GPR I mentioned lets us know if an area contains structures or burials (we are currently using the GPR here in Florida to look for disappeared Historical Black cemeteries--to help correct racist injustices of the past), we have photogrametery (in which we can take a bunch of pictures of an artifact and then print a 3d copy of it from those pictures). Ok, i will stop now.....can't tell I love this stuff, can you?

@drhelenloney1426

3 жыл бұрын

Ares Dominguez Castillo not really, because the technology doesn’t yet allow 3D reconstruction at the same fine detail as by habd

"I might be getting a little bit weird" 🤣🤣🤣 we love academia! Edited: you should totally send this video to Karina (the paper author) as an academic I am 100% sure she would love to watch this video and see you experimenting with her research!

@gabriellerussell8484

4 жыл бұрын

I second this! There’s not a single academic I know that wouldn’t adore seeing their research in action this way.

@maleahlock

4 жыл бұрын

This!!!!

@sfowler1017

4 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought! Definitely send it to her.

@scarletpimpernelagain9124

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, don’t be shy about it, the dissemination of information is important.

@beth_winegarner

4 жыл бұрын

YES!!

When you said you'd forgotten water I thought why not just suck the hair ends, I imagine that's what really happened.

@Alice-gr1kb

3 жыл бұрын

yeah same

@LordofFullmetal

2 жыл бұрын

Because we can't cough up hair balls like cats can - if you get one, it has to be surgically removed.

@EspeonMistress00

2 жыл бұрын

@@LordofFullmetal But unlike a cat you can use your fingers and pull out any hair in your mouth without swallowing it.

I've done the spiral doodleydoo thing on my hair before and it held all day (and my hair is so thin and soft everything falls out if it isn't good and secure). It especially stays if you wet your hair first, push it up as far as it goes, and let it expand as it dries.

@djking7942

2 жыл бұрын

Spiral Doodleydoo is going into my personal lexicon of official hair terms!

The other day I had my husband buy salt. When he brought it home I glanced at the package and exclaimed with delight: "You bought period accurate salt!" Yes, the salt mines in Hallstatt still operate today ;) Fantastic video! These pins and spiral look so good in a bun, omg, I need them (and your thickness of hair to be able to use them)

@melanieg.9092

3 жыл бұрын

As an Austrian from the area we usually go there on grade school trips and this salt is in nearly every home ;)

I love how Punk the heads of the pins look. Jumping on the alternate use method for the coil: If the top spirals are pulled apart a little it could be screwed into the braid along the length of the braid. Super secure; I use modern hair screws like this.

@MorganDonner

4 жыл бұрын

Very true! It reminds me very much of modern spin pins. The extant ones are all a bit too tightly coiled for that though, so I wanted to try it as the research suggested. It would be fun to try it again with loser coils though!

@prosie1968

4 жыл бұрын

I thought something similar like sliding the hair perpendicular to the spiral then you could role up the hair and weave the pin behind. Sort of like a French twist.

@katherinemargeson8082

3 жыл бұрын

A looser coil also works as a kind of screw to hold a bun or updos in place like the modern spin pin

@birdyfeederz7940

3 жыл бұрын

@@katherinemargeson8082 spin pins are the only ones that hold on my hair. I'm interested to try a wire spiral to tie the end

The pins and spiral look so pretty together in dark hair.

The spiral things remind me of the doorstops that go "dooinngg" if you bump them.

I love how for the whole vid you were so doubtful of single pins, and i'm over here remembering how for most of middle school and high school I would wear my hair in a bun with a single chopstick or two XD

@RhiannonAgutter

3 жыл бұрын

I rarely wear my hair up but when I do it’s usually thrown up in a messy bun when I get sick of it at work and it’s never secured by more than a single pencil. Single pins can definitely be secure if you know how to use them.

@bookmouse2719

3 жыл бұрын

We wore this in the late 60s, or even with a switch of leather + wooden stick

@Zeraphei

3 жыл бұрын

Or pencil 👍🏻

@Celestial.moon.

3 жыл бұрын

When I'm in the field I'll use pencils to hold in a bun if I got too hot. Single pins ftw

@bustedkeaton

3 жыл бұрын

Its easier or harder to hold a style with straight pins/bodkins depending on the texture of your hair

If you ever need a cosplay look, you have the perfect medieval Princess Leia with that white wool dress and the buns! :D

@klallamcedar0099

4 жыл бұрын

Have you seen Rachel do it? She just did a video for leia.

@MsSteelphoenix

4 жыл бұрын

I second the Medieval Princess Leia cosplay!

I see the little ring at the end of the home made pins and I say: RIBBONS!

I worked as a nurse for many years. Frequently I would run into work at the last moment before report with my hair unpinned. Sometimes I would braid it quickly but other times I would just twist it up. Then I would weave a pencil through my hair and it would be up for the shift. No elastic needed. My hair was not quite as heavy as yours but still thick.

Morgan: We thought she was ~400 years old, turns out that she might be ~ thousands of years old. Also can’t stand sunlight.... Is ancient vampire?!?

Honestly those spirals look like those door spring thingies I used to twang when I was a kid.

@snuassauns

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I was watching her make them and thinking that I would go to the hardware store and adapt one.

@h.borter5367

3 жыл бұрын

Door stops😃

@carolilseanne2175

3 жыл бұрын

YES!!!! I knew they reminded me of something! 🤣🤣

@melanyacraven5011

3 жыл бұрын

As...as a kid? We're supposed to stop?? 👁👄👁oh no...🤦‍♀️

@wrenchwren7166

3 жыл бұрын

The spring inside old curlers that had plastic mesh covering. Plastic pin to hold rollers in place.

I wear my hair in a single braid every single day, and I MEAN every single day. I was MEANT for these hairstyles, if only I had iron age pins....

I just wanted to say thank you on a near spiritual layer. I was absolutely engaged right up until minute 29, where i found myself tearing up. Rest in peace, Princess Leia, Rebel Leader. We always knew you were born, a long long time ago, and a world away from our modern aesthetic. Thank you, Morgan, and bless you. This was absolute magic, through and through.

As an archaeologist this made me so thrilled to watch! Absolutely love this idea and the use of archaeology papers to learn about ancient hairstyling. So so so cool

I’m so glad I’m not the only person who does the “steal from another section when one braid section is insufficient” technique!

I have a few (damaged) Romano/British bronze pins in my collection. I see now that they are hair pins. Thank you. It was a great video. I enjoy experimental archaeology.

@Rose-jz6sx

Жыл бұрын

They might not be hair pins, speaking as a seamstress pins were the same general style regardless of use for most of history.

since these were found in a grave, it makes sense that the wreath would hold the head in place & face forward. The braid would keep it from rolling to the side. I would imagine that they would use high quality metal such as gold to bury the person with. Meaning, this would be a special burial hair style rather than a day to day.

I’m in for bog body hair styles... grave hair sounds fantastic Edit: love Janet Stephens Put one of the pins inside the spiral and it will stay better... I’ve done that for years

@MorganDonner

4 жыл бұрын

I did play with that and it totally does help! (And I love Janet Stephens so much!!! ❤)

@MusesWhim

4 жыл бұрын

I personally really enjoy when my hair tutorial starts by talking about corpses. Have you watched Silvousplait's videos? kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ5lz7KtnNC6irg.html

The size of the those pins could totally be used as a weapon...just saying. An ancient woman's arsenal

@Meg_of_all_threads

3 жыл бұрын

In the Edwardian time, hat pin was used as such. Laws even come into place to make sure hat pin wasn't too long and self defense tricks and how too was teach so women could use self defense. 👍

@zoeyb

3 жыл бұрын

Technically you could still have a hat pin. Helps on public transit. So I’ve read.

@lilacpen8678

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, hair pins, hat pins, and certain styles of broaches have all been used in female self defense historically.

@LordofFullmetal

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know if this was intentional or not. If it wasn't - in the Edwardian era, women actually did exactly that to stop r-pists. Aaaand instead of addressing the fact that society had a r-pe problem, the government responded by banning hat pins above a certain size - because apparently women were the problem for defending themselves. Sigh. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

@Torqueware

2 жыл бұрын

@@LordofFullmetal yeah it's really unfortunate that other societies don't allow their citizens to own firearms. Ladies, if you feel unsafe in America, buy a gun. A Cz 75 is the perfect companion for the modern woman. Protect yourself - you're worth it!

I cackled when you mentioned Janet Stephens. A few years ago at my friends' holiday party we busted out her channel and gave everyone ancient hairstyles and it was one of our better nerd crew moments. Alas, my hair was too short at the time to participate, but now I want to try some of these!

If the spiral was also twisted as it went on - the top few rings of the spiral could be woven into the hair & thus locking it in place. (Handmade jewlery maker/teacher)

@larenkevin4531

Жыл бұрын

Kind of like a spin pin today?

Lol! Mandatory head shake for long hair updos 😄 I really like those pins. This was a really fun video/hair/experiment!

@MorganDonner

4 жыл бұрын

One must shake one's head about to establish the viability of the bun. *shake shake shake*

@Olson185

4 жыл бұрын

@@MorganDonner Disco trauma flashback with KC & the Sunshine Band, ugh!

@TheHopeDreier

4 жыл бұрын

Untraumatised flashback to disco, which was a whole lot of fun, back in the day.

@RavenAttwoode

4 жыл бұрын

I know all too well the necessity of the shake! My hair is past my waist and I have to do this any time I put my hair up too. 😁

@juliemiller9258

4 жыл бұрын

hair shakes were mandatory before ballet class. Not good to have your hair escape and ruin the line of your body. lol

I noticed all of the grave positions of pins (the inspiration for each hairstyle) included at least one or two places where pins were crossed. You didn't mention crossing pins in this video, but it seems it might have been intentional, as a way to reinforce a spot to be extra secure, rather than just "they fell that way". Maybe the crossed spot was a main anchor point, or maybe it was a starting or ending point for anchoring the whole style? Also, in at least one photo there was a pin inside a spiral, so I'm wondering if that was used like a wedge to secure the hair tightly in the spiral. And that makes me wonder if the spiral might sometimes have been left dangling loose as a decorative/moving element, so they had to be extra careful to wedge it so as not to lose it? Also, being a spiral, it seems logical the little end of the hair might have been passed between the loops somewhere, not just wrapped by them, for security. I'm imagining that metal was less easy to come by way back then and they would not have been at all okay with it maybe falling out at any time. Finally, whether or not it is tomb-accurate, your eyepins at the end are just begging to be embellished with dangly beads and bits to add some action and drama to the hairstyle! I would love love love to see you try that!

@Riot_Bird

4 жыл бұрын

I had the same thought about the eye pins, they reminded me a lot of the pins used in ancient China and Japan that had all the gems a tassels hanging off of them

@therebelqueen3

4 жыл бұрын

I second your thoughts for the crossed pins! Especially considering crossed pins are still standard for good hold when using Bobby pins and modern hair sticks as well.

This video was so interesting. I love hair, costuming, vintage clothing... all of it. I grew up doing musical theater, so it kind of came with the territory. The genuine excitement in this video was awesome to see. Those pins, even the doolydoo, are so cool looking. They look like the hair charms that have been so popular lately. It amazes me how little hair products/techniques have changed. Yes, we have more these days, but the basics (braids, pins, something to hold the hair together, even curling, backcombing, and dry shampoo, pomade, etc.) have, for the most part, remained highly similar to what we did in the past. Makes me wonder if we have been constantly reinventing the wheel or if these things have been passed down and evolved. IDK, it is just fascinating. I went to Williamsburg with my family and watched a nail making demonstration by the blacksmith and those pins totally remind me of the nails. I know that the nails were meant to be functional, but they were beautiful. So many functional items were beautiful in the past. If you look at historical architecture, for example. Yes, there were purely decorative things like gingerbread, but if you look at things like gussets, gutters, support beams, etc. on historic buildings, they are just beautiful. However, what costs an exorbitant amount and is considered "custom" by today's standards, was much more normal back then. They made the simplest things with so much beauty. My dad is a 4th generation contractor specializing in historic restoration and metalwork. He builds houses the way they did 100 years ago. Goodness, he even maid our mailbox out of copper. It is an art form. Craftsmen of he past, even of something as simple as hair pins, were truly artists. In many cases the blend of form and function is amazing. Just look at the Eiffel Tower... Gussets galore. Or the silkscreen "propaganda" posters by Toulouse-Lautrec. They are amazing. I wish more things were made that way now, but it is a lot of work and a lot of time and, unfortunately in certain cases, a lot of money. All of which certainly explains why it is no longer the norm. People like you celebrate their creations. Lovely to see. My grandma was also a seamstress. We still have her sewing machine from the 50's, and it still works great. She taught me to sew and knit at 6. She would have loved this channel. Would have said you have style, and she would have absolutely been right. Thank you for keeping their artistry alive. You've convinced me to make some doolydoos lol. Side note, my mom is a manicurist (a lot of artisans in my family lol), and your nails always look great. The shape is prefect, you don't remove the sides too much. Many people go wrong there. Well done.

I was able to replicate this, in a way, at home with regular pins. I used jewelery pliers to straighten them out and twist the ends into small hooks. They are my favorite hair accessories! So easy to use and extremely comfortable.

Hey kids! The y in ye olde tavern is the letter thorne and pronounced th as usual. Back in the day they visually distinguished between the th in father (voiced) and with (unvoiced )

@lorrainemunoa791

3 жыл бұрын

This is true! THough any time you hear someone use "Ye Olde" as an adjective, they may also be referring to a thing in the reenactment and modelmaking and set dressing circles, where we use that as a way to describe "The General public's idea of how things HAVE to be to look properly Old." And we say it "Ye Oldy" ie incorrectly, as a kind of nod to the idea that what the general public thinks is Historical is often not remotely historical. Making something look Ye Olde is making it look sufficiently battered, dirty, crude or 'primitive' to fit people's expectations.

Try using a cord as a threading line, to pull the hair tips into the narrow coil. The narrow end of the coil will show a tidy fold of hair. Similar to head of a tassel, the tips will be tucked securely inside the coil. The threading cord will pull out , giving a very tidy end

@DannyJane.

4 жыл бұрын

I would dearly love to see this demonstrated.

@Smillaaraq

4 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I thought when I saw her trying to thread the ends through the spiral.

@Smillaaraq

4 жыл бұрын

@@DannyJane. it's pretty much like this technique using fine thread as a needle threader: frecklednest.blogspot.com/2010/02/how-to-thread-yarn-through-tiny-eye.html?m=1

@bonniebelair8470

4 жыл бұрын

Ohhh that example helps so much, thank you!

@DannyJane.

4 жыл бұрын

@@Smillaaraq I am SO going to try this. It's brilliant. I have some beads I sometimes like to put in my hair. This will work great for that too!

Archaeology student here. Gurl, I have an exam in a few days about special burial costume/ dresses, jewlery and burials and this just makes me smile because I envision Iron Age people doing something simiral like this ☺☺. Also I need to go study 😂

So interesting! I've never really thought about what people used to fasten the ends of their hair before rubber bands were available. I never figured it would be a wire spiral, so cool!

I live in Austria about an hour from Hallstadt and I had never heard of these graves before. So amazing. Similar hairstiles are still worn by older women (often with the help of a hairnet) or are worn for traditional gatherings to suit the traditional dresses called Tracht (or also the more modern Dirndl). Thank you for the great video!

Years ago I stopped using these modern hair ties and clipps. My hair is natruly curly and would get tangled and I would be getting my hair out to take them out. So I desided to use chop stix I had to sand and paint them(nail polish is best) I put a bun on my head and then weave the stix useuly two some times more but they hold good . Love watching you recreate the old. We can all bring it back some how

@MorganDonner

4 жыл бұрын

You made your own hair sticks! That's awesome!

@e.g.2261

4 жыл бұрын

I used to do this constantly!

@Eowyn3Pride

4 жыл бұрын

What a great idea!😯😄

@sharroon7574

4 жыл бұрын

If you want to try something for half up stylrs there are some pretty silver slides on etsy.

@miriamparker9932

4 жыл бұрын

@@MorganDonner my sister is a jewelry crafter too. All three of us learned from our mothers and grandmothers . Best start our children young . Even my grandsons crochet and Cook. It's tridition around here

"Let's toss a few more pins..." To your witcher? Sorry, wrong video...

@galactichermione6727

3 жыл бұрын

No, right video

@micheal2458

2 жыл бұрын

Every single time she said it, my brain filled in "to your Witcher"!

Those pins are actually really cute, loved the metal coils. I Love the decorative touches it gives. Wish they could brings things back, they're soooo much nicer than regular hair pins.

The spiral doodleydoo reminds me of “Hair Scroos” which were popular in the 90s - you’d literally screw in place and they work so well that you use less pins and grips

@bernadetteburgoyne8238

3 жыл бұрын

I still wear hair screws. My hair was as long as Morgan until I cut it to my neck before covid in September,, it had been cut twice in six months. I'm growing it out again and can make a pony and small plait. I would really love those pieces, I always keep long hair accessories and have single plastic ones or short chopsticks, metal sticks with Crystal decorations etc. I won't get rid because I love long hair. I have noticed that i have more hair than I had ten years ago as I have found that when I massage my hair on washing that I have new hair growth, it started creeping down the back of my neck and more around the top of my forehead and ears. I love Morgan and really wish that she would reproduce those pins. I would be willing to pay upfront!.

@flagerdevil

3 жыл бұрын

What are those scroos? I can't seem to get a hit on google.

@missbananabike5790

3 жыл бұрын

90's? *touches bun being held in place with with 3 screw pins.. I love these still now! Can't find them everywhere, but normal pins don't hold my hair like the screw pins do 🥰

@annapruitt5546

3 жыл бұрын

@@flagerdevil it popped up when I searched hair screws. Also seems to be called spin pins. It’s like a U-pin except instead of two straight lines, it’s two curled lines

@larenriedler821

3 жыл бұрын

@@flagerdevil Look for Spin Pins. You can get the brand name, which are a little longer so they stay better, or knock offs which are a little shorter.

the slow turn around 9:45 was 1) lovely and 2) made me imagine how cute it would be to have lil hair pins painted like red and white mushrooms!! might not be historically accurate, but it would be stinkin' cute, as you say

@MorganDonner

4 жыл бұрын

Aww, that would absolutely be stinkin' cute! I love it!

"[to the sun] could you Calm Down Please?" what a mood

I came here after your 500 years of hair video! You're so talented I love your historical vids, especially the hair and fashion ones, so glad I found your channel❤

Doobely doo will be henceforth be the OFFICIAL name for a collection of European Iron Age Hair Pins/Decorations as declared to the International Community via this Vlog/ Interweb and no, don’t argue, I insist. We need to have a commonality of language to deal with issues crucial to ‘ye Olde Costumes’. Incidentally Ye is just an 18th Century English contraction of ‘The’ - they didn’t actually say the word ‘Ye’ and spelled Old as Olde because before the Dr Samuel Johnson Dictionary people spelled English how they liked - and some of us still do. These, by the way, are the ravings of a self isolated, history nerd and should be taken as such. I like the ‘Drunken Princess Leah/loopy eared Spaniel’ ‘do plus Veil. I love Archaeological History re-enactments and get irritated by those who pooh pooh them as not real history. Seems to me that this is far more interesting than dry as bone Historians that tell you a lot about the history whilst losing sight of the humanity that made it.

I love the way those pinheads sparkle in your hair.

Considering a lot of these ladies probably wore the veils on a daily basis, I wonder if they really cared about how nice the hair looked beneath it. I loved a lot of the crown type ones! Would’ve been a shame to cover it with veils!

These accessories and styles are all so gorgeous! 😍 I love the little spirals; they don't look obviously hair-related, to me, but then you put them on, and they just look so *right*.

So when are you going to mass manufacture these pins and sell them? I'd buy some!

In Norwegian style they loved the buns at the ears. Ones a year they celebrate national Norwegian day wearing costumes known to the region they live in and wear their hair traditional.( not nowadays when they let their hair hang lose) The crown hairstyle realy was worn with a wedding crown, these growns are stunning. ( and awfully heavy) While wearing daily cap style headwear the breads were done underneath at the back of the head. The Saami wore the traditional felted hats and in the cold north the fur hats so the hair was braided at the back and high up the head with pins. Weird thought it's only a hundred years ago people still would do their hair like that.

The design is quite telling. If you grasp the spring on both ends (someone has to do this for you, it's impossible to do yourself) and twist it outwardly the spring will expand allowing you to slide it much further up the hair, releasing it will then clamp it in place.

I love how all the vintage channels I watch use the term “Ye olde” very frequently

fantastic video! i just finished my degree in bioarchaeology, so i do the same sort of stuff as in that paper (sort of, at least), but my favorite part of any study is being able to reconstruct the lives of the people we're studying, and learn how they lived! hair styles and jewelry are such a big part of that as well- i've always enjoyed Janet Stephens' work on hair style reproductions, but wish more of this would be done on more places and time periods. my area in Peru has fantastic preservation and many individuals are excavated with full heads of hair, and I would love to see how their hair styles look on a living person! loved this video!

@tiryaclearsong421

4 жыл бұрын

Silvousplaits did some ancient peruvian hairstyles.

Am I the only one who wants to know who she commissioned her pins from, so I can get a set?

@rsearls5064

4 жыл бұрын

You are not the only one! Do want! 8D

@fionafiona1146

4 жыл бұрын

I am exited about the local makerspace opening up again and finding someone with the appropriate skill set

@bernadetteburgoyne8238

4 жыл бұрын

AquaMoonMaiden me too, aren't they beautiful. I can't wait for my hair to grow back. I cut it up to my neck in September and cut it again in January. It's now laying on my shoulders. It was past my bottom when I cut it.xx

@PacakeQueen

4 жыл бұрын

Same!

@agypsycircle

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

Thank you for bringing the grave goods to life and demonstrating hair styles with them. Very interesting and fun to see the pins working. They are quite elegant.

I love that the pins and the coil become a feature in the style. They add something decorative!

I love the reproduction pins, they are so pretty and decorative! These are actually like short hair sticks. I do my hair every day in a small bun, since my hair is very thin and fine, and often use a single hair stick used the way you describe of scooping the scalp hair. I find the hair sticks to be so much cooler in the Summer than an elastic. Now I want to try some variations.

The pin heads in the finished up dos look so cool, like studs

I wonder - maybe the hair didn't necessarily stick out of the spiral? You could fold the hair at the end of the braid upwards and stick the spiral onto the end creating a "finished" braid, nothing sticking out.

The braid in a circle is my new favourite hairstyle 🤩 So simple, but it looks so complicated and cool.

Actually, with the current era of Coronacation, and the mandate to wear a mask, there IS precedent for wearing a veil in modern times, ESPECIALLY if it can be drawn over the nose and mouth. About the hair pins: you could totally sell a line of "Dooblee doos" for securing hair and veils. I'd like some.

@caragarcia2307

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't realize veils were worn for my modesty until maybe late grade school. I just didn't realize the hair and face could be so scandelous. I just thought they kept hair out of food and protected the face from sun and frost. Women just hate damage to the face after all.

Quick pronounciation correction: Hallstadt is pronounced "HallSHtadt" in German. ST is pronounced SHT.

@MorganDonner

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the info! It's a shame that I can't edit the video to fix it 😳

@Eowyn3Pride

4 жыл бұрын

Like...'get yo sht together'? 😉🤣😁

@alicecurtis9238

4 жыл бұрын

@@bluenuttefly8813 Not necessarily. My German teacher said there were regional accents and St could be soft as in sht or hard as in St. The hard pronunciation was called spitzenstein or "sharp stones". So both pronunciations could be correct depending on where you came from.

@Leo-gu3dn

4 жыл бұрын

@@bluenuttefly8813 I think the town in question is actually Hallstatt (no dt) ;D If you look it up, there's actually a lot of archeological importance to it! So the "-statt" probably derives from something like "(Grab-)Stätte" = (grave) site 😄 it's still pronounced with "sht" though! (Kinda like "hull-shtutt")

@Leo-gu3dn

4 жыл бұрын

@@alicecurtis9238 German here, you're right about the dialects! Although in "High German" as we call it (the attempt of a standardised/dialect free German, which is taught in school) the "sht"-pronunciation is considered correct :D Also in case you're interested: most dialects with the sharp pronunciation are those spoken in northern Germany as far as I know - seeing as Hallstatt is in Austria, where most dialects are closer to those in Bavaria (where I'm from), it's most likely pronounced with a "soft" sht sound even by the locals 😊 (Sorry for the long text, like most Germans I get excited when someone is interested in our culture/language :D It's so cool that you've taken german language classes 🥰 )

Thank you so much for the great article link! I love this kind of stuff. I'm also a metalsmith and though I do already make metal modern hairsticks, I'm wanting to make smaller pins to experiment with.

@garnettekken

2 ай бұрын

If you have a shop i’d love to buy some. I use mainly hair pins to secure my crown braids

Pinning through a veil is very exciting! And the loose braid loops would fall apart on me I’m sure but I’m overjoyed to see how the ladies in old paintings did it!

Connecting to the past via hairstyles is such a fun bit of time travel. Nothing weird about learning strange history , so sayeth I (I am biased though as a teacher! Lol) PS- I love the new intro card! Gorgeous 👏🥰

@MorganDonner

4 жыл бұрын

Hair history is one of my favorite things! Thank you for being an awesome teacher and passing that love of learning onto the next generation :D

The heads of the pins make your bun look like a fancy hairstyle to attend a wedding.

My grandmother had this hairdo. She would use a coil for her ends as well. She use to braid her hair, put on the coil, wrap her braid with the coil hidden inside her braided bun. She then pined it in place with the pins going underneath or through the coil to hold everything in place. Her coil was just cheap wire and a bit looser but her bun was good enough for farm life.

You know this is literally Experimental Archaeology!?! Thank you!!!

It's fun to think about people sitting around sharing life hacks of how to do different hair styles with these tools. Like "hey, if you arrange them this way they'll last all day!" or "I secretly weave a string through this part!" or "I've developed a new hairstyle, let me teach it to you!" Like if you lived back then, you would totally still be developing hairstyling techniques and teaching people. Also, you should see if you can easily make it a little more stable with your normal string technique!

0:14 "i might be getting a little bit weird" Duh.... that's probably 80% of why i follow you... :)

I love this! I used to have a hair twist I bought at a ren faire like a decade ago. It was a bit similar to the spiral doodad you showed here but it was cylindrical and the gaps between the coils were bigger. You would twist your hair between the coils instead of threading it. I think you could still do that with this one. But it also came with a pin and once you coiled your hair through you shoved the pin down the center and it would tighten everything up and secure the placement. I didn't get to wear it very often because I can't stand having long hair for very long and keep cutting short haha. I often pine for hair like yours to wear awesome ancient hairstyles though.

There's something very meditative about the way you braid your hair

I love the wire wrap idea for the end of a braid!!! 100% going to try this on my normal Dutch braids because subtle iron age references are always cool! ...my friends also think I'm weird ;) bought a headband because it reminded me of a Tudor asthetic :)

This is so, so cool! One of the things I love so much about KZread is finding fellow history nerds who also get excited by research papers. Keep being weird, Morgan, because your audience is totally happy to be weird right along with you!!

as an archaeology student, to see you having an interest and playing with the Idea and research from Hallstatt, it was absoulty wonderful.

This is how my mom and grandma did their hair before they decided to get haircuts. I'll never not be surprised by how much the world changes, while humans really haven't changed at all.

I am loving the “medieval space bun” look I will totally experiment with that in my everyday hairstyles, because I’m weird I guess?

Morgan, if you needed to be able to trust the coil to hold it - take the hair coming out the end and put it between two coils near the bottom. Remembering that stone age man may not have cared if he grew his/her hair long. Just saying. Oh and you have to know - your hair is gorgeous, i love the pins and your styling!!

@AnnekeOosterink

4 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought too, the hold would be very secure that way. They might even hide the ends inside the coil. Or twist the coil around a hair loop to hide the ends, a bit like those twisty hairpins you have to turn like a screw into a bun.

@Alltheshiny.reneeowens

4 жыл бұрын

exactly. i was thinking the hair was probably folded at the end to secure the thinner bits and then the coil twisted into the loop that makes to secure it.

@brittanyk3923

4 жыл бұрын

This is what I was thinking. thread them through the actual coils to anchor the bottom bit.

@vickierayhill4637

4 жыл бұрын

I once had a hair decoration I bought at a Ren faire that was a very narrow spiral, but the coils were stretched lengthwise. The only way to get it on your hair was to wrap your tress around the coil. That was the first thing I inagined when I saw her spring/coil ornament.

@biancamitchell484

4 жыл бұрын

I came here to comment this as well, it was my first guess that you could pull the hair between the spiral to trap it. That said, I LOVE how gorgeous all the bronze looks in her hair! These kinds of fastening need to come back!

The bun is really beautiful, the hair pins and the spiral end holder gives your hair a better and elegant look than seeing some rubber and some peices of metal poking out