Shout out to Ian McColm from Forgotten Weapons in the video.

Really appreciated the mini series on the shotgun. In jurisdictions where it is difficult to own an AR 15 or other modern sporting rifles, pump shotguns may be easier to own for the average civilian. Would love to see some pointers on how to move inside house etc with shotgun should it not be possible to stay in a safe room where police can be called from. The attraction of the shotgun for home defense is the superior payload it offers when compared to a handgun. If one is able to shoot from behind cover even a single shot shotgun will be useful.

@adamr9720

4 жыл бұрын

@Jay C I do the exact same. At a range from the middle of my bedroom to the landing or the bedroom door down the stairs, birdshot will dig a hole in someone. But if they don't stop what they are doing, I will pump it and pull the trigger again. They will surely have a rethink on life then.

Wow, that's impressive! 35 yards and still that much on target. Thanks for the video, John!

@ASPextra

4 жыл бұрын

You bet

Totally agree with Matt on standard length of pull. I much prefer a youth or SGA stock.

I always been a fan of Flight control ammo, this video reinforces my previous opinion. This video should be an advertising for Federal Ammo.

I like his method of instructing. He seems like an excellent instructor. Thanks for sharing

@ASPextra

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Nice demonstration

@ASPextra

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Love your shotgun vids... More please... 👍

The maverick 88 is a good shotgun I love mine you make me feel proud to own one

Excellent content. 👍

@ASPextra

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

This training class just seems to be one big advertisement for Federal Flight Control Buckshot... 🤔

@ASPextra

8 ай бұрын

It’s not, but FFC is the bees knees.

This is a really good demonstration about proper ammo selection... I run the 8 pellet Hornady TAP 00 buck when I am on duty, don't have a single complaint about it.

@ASPextra

4 жыл бұрын

Good stuff as well, uses a version of a FC wad to the same effect.

@bebop_557

4 жыл бұрын

@@ASPextra Mhmm. The TAP patterns better out of my gun than the FLITE CONTROL does, but I can't really say anything bad about either of those loads. One thing I do also agree with Matt as well is the shotgun stock plays a huge role. I'm transitioning to a pistol grip w/ collapsible stock for an adjustable length of pull. Pistol grip stocks don't give the best cheekweld, but you get a lot better leverage over the gun. This is important for us in the line of duty, since we have to do things like clearing rooms.

5:43 Gun Jesus!! But what in the world is that gun he is using?? That was a very interesting vid - thx

@ASPextra

4 жыл бұрын

An old school Auto 5!

@henrikchristensen6314

4 жыл бұрын

@@ASPextra Thx

@JM-yl8md

3 жыл бұрын

Active Self Protection Extra ....shocking!!!😮😮😮 Ian is using something “old school “...who would have thunk it!!lol

I love federal's flight control ammo and Hornady steel match rounds even with a short barrel and no choke on it , you'll get awesome patterns ...

@ASPextra

4 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed.

Interesting, I wonder what kind of shot Charles Askins and the boder patrol used on the Rio Grande when fighting bandits. I read that he favored the shotgun over the rifle for the margin of error- shot spread in the dark in a high speed situation. I guess he would have kept the shot in the B zone or maybe even gone to the C zone, 2 bandits per shot?

Is he using a maverick 88? Love that the gun!

@ordinary_american

4 жыл бұрын

Mossberg 500, if you zoom in on the gun you can see the tang mounted safety instead of the Maverick's cross bolt safety. The Maverick 88 is still a good gun, and is nearly identical to the Mossberg 500.

John, at 3:04 in the video, Matt says he's loading it with 8 pellets of 00 FCC, but then in at 4:42 and later for the rest of the video he refers to the patterning as 9 pellets of 00 FCC; did he switch from 8 pellet to 9 pellet in the middle or was he talking about and shooting the same one the entire time? Sorry, just curious. Thanks for posting these clips!!

@ASPextra

4 жыл бұрын

Yes he went to 9 pellet because that particular gun loves it.

@ForgottenWeapons

4 жыл бұрын

We changed from 8-pellet to 9-pellet. What he is saying is correct.

@mustangkrillin

4 жыл бұрын

Originally flight control had the standard 9 pellets but they switched to 8 because they found it patterned better. You can find both but I believe only 8 pellet is currently being produced.

@ordinary_american

4 жыл бұрын

@@mustangkrillin Thanks, both 8 and 9 pellet versions are being produced but current availability is spotty. The 12 gauge 2-3/4" #1 buckshot FCC 15 pellet has sadly been discontinued and is out of stock everywhere.

@ordinary_american

4 жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenWeapons Thanks Ian! Wow that class had some all stars in it. Love your content by the way!

Is this at cow town ranch?

@ASPextra

5 ай бұрын

No it was at Ben Avery.

@sowhatimliving

5 ай бұрын

@@ASPextra nice 💯 I want to sign up for a training with my a300. I’ve been doing tactical pistol training down the road at cow town for a few months. Any suggestions?

@ASPextra

5 ай бұрын

I do private lessons any time at C2 in Scottsdale. I can recommend some other group classes as well, but not sure who is teaching shotgun.

The instructor may have made a false claim to pattern vs velocity. It has nothing to do with deformation, the shotcup prevents that. It's because a higher velocity projectile will have traveled a greater distance and will have deviated greater in the same amount of time. So same range but greater, measurable distance between projectiles.

He says "OOh I hate long stocks on a shotgun" ???? Nonsense, it's the only reason you hit where you were aiming..

@ASPextra

4 жыл бұрын

No, most stocks on shotguns from the factory are too long.

@matthaught4707

3 жыл бұрын

@@ASPextra Exactly. My point is that the typical shotgun stock has a 13.5"-14" LOP, which is about an inch too long for most folks. Until Magpul came out with their excellent SGA stocks, the best most folks could do was a factory 'youth' stock or something like a Hogue super-short stock, or cutting down a wood stock to desired length and installing a new pad.

@LYLEWOLD

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthaught4707 hi Matt. any thoughts on a stock for a Moss 930 Tactical? I tried the Urbino, but didn't care for the for the feel on my thumb (bony part where the thumb joins to the hand).