You know it's authentic UThermal when there's no creep spread

@_Molecule

8 ай бұрын

lmao true

@InTheFogOfLondon

8 ай бұрын

He's following his build to a T.

@zeagias

8 ай бұрын

That's so funny to say

😂 that backstory behind the build is gold haha

@andrewferguson6901

8 ай бұрын

Easily Plat, I mean just look at the multitasking

@volodyanarchist

8 ай бұрын

I came here from uThermal's video.

Uthermal, Harstem and Lowko are my three favorite sc2 content creators and i just love watching Uthermal cheese Harstem then coming over to Harstems channel and watch him wreck others with the very same build he got wrecked by and have nothing but nice things to say crediting Thermy with such a broken build. I love this community!

@jacobsvensson8193

8 ай бұрын

The three-headed dutch dragon

@trassage

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, if Starcraft 1belongs to Korea, then SCII definitely has a Dutch flavor, which I love)

I love how they have so much respect for each other. Instead of being salty they compliment each other

@rumination2399

8 ай бұрын

It’s how fairly well-adjusted happy people communicate, even rivals.

@Bombay1618

8 ай бұрын

Nice guys finish first.

26:02 If only he knew that uThermal's build has only rough outline at the start and very quickly goes into improvisation and every game is different. The strength of every uThermal build is pushing the game into chaos state where no one knows how it's supposed to be played and he just wins as he has far more experience of playing in chaos.

@kindlin

8 ай бұрын

That sounds like PiG's description of Florencio, aka The Sewer Mermaid.

@thelunaticco9320

7 ай бұрын

Drag them down to your level, then beat them with experience.

"CIA probably has pretty good funding if i RECALL" Harstem officially outs himself as a CIA operative.

playing with no creep = the dutch method

@space_orphan

8 ай бұрын

When non-zerg mains try to play zerg...

The Introduction to this video made me super happy :D. As a relatively fresh huge fan of Uthermal it is with pure joy I experience any interaction between the now 2 of my favorite SC2 creators. keep up the great work! Cheers!

@0BleaK0

8 ай бұрын

Collab when? 1v1 cheesefest?

@kindlin

8 ай бұрын

If you never found Lowko, I think he kept up the SC2 scene for Thermy and Harstem and others to break out more recently (3-4 years) on KZread.

@TheNeomare

8 ай бұрын

@@kindlin I do appreciate the hard work of Lowko as well as all the others youtubers, streamers, tourney organizers, commentators its a big and wonderful community that all worked together to keep the Sc2 alive. I just prefer Thermy and Harstem. There is something really naughty about these 2 that I enjoy a lot :D and there is only so much time I have so can't watch them all but good point for sure Lowk does quality content as well. Cheers!

@kindlin

8 ай бұрын

@@TheNeomare It's all about accessibility. The fact you CAN watch Harstem/Thermy is proof you don't need the full commentary from Lowko. A bunch of years ago when I wasn't familiar with the SC2 scene at ALL, no idea the units, the strats, nothing but the basics from when the game first came out, it wasn't possible for me to watch someone PLAY SC2, they were too fast, and it was almost nauseating. But over time I started watching a lot more playing vs casting, but Lowko is still always fun.

@TheNeomare

8 ай бұрын

@@kindlin oh Alright :D. That puts a different perspective. Yea what you say makes perfect sense. For somebody who is new Harstem and Thermy might not be the best place to start. If anything quite the opposite :D. Glad you found your way trough the difficulty. It is a fun game to watch. I really do admire the level at which some people can play it. Its much better for me than watching traditional sports. I guess I take for granted for how long I am in SC2 i feel like i understand it really well. Watched a lot of GSL and many many many youtubers and streamers playing it. I never really was into investing enough time to be and good at it though... did have some fun with a friend of mine for a while when wol came out though but nothing very high level. Ah the good old times :). Cheers!

Checking the help menu while in a 1v1 is the most insane thing about this video

"Stealing fruit, that's what I'm all about" Harstem-2023

@SpencerDrager

7 ай бұрын

I was cracking up at that whole thing. Sewn? Sown? He plants the seeds, I reap them!

I imagine this video came about like this: "I found a new build order, in which series should I use it?" "From whom did you get it?" "uThermal." "In that case beating Grandmaster with stupid stuff!"

It helps understanding this build if you realize uThermal is a pro Terran player and this is basically playing your Zerg like it's a Terran instead. Hydra drops are basically like medivac dropping marines, but way stronger.

@kevinchang5082

8 ай бұрын

Its def not stronger but comparable. Marine medvac synergy is probably the best in the game:

I'm still really hoping you and Marc to team up for a bit of Co-op shenanigans

Marc builds hit different.

I watched that game from Thermys POV, it was magnificent!

@pavelfedorov2891

8 ай бұрын

Is it on youtube?

@ssvensic

8 ай бұрын

​@@pavelfedorov2891yeah, i think it's posted last week

@ssvensic

8 ай бұрын

​@@pavelfedorov2891something like "Zerg cheese to grandmaster"

@joshuadalton6063

8 ай бұрын

@@pavelfedorov2891 I don't think its uploaded yet, or it might have been on uThermal's twitch stream

@Thund3rstorm

8 ай бұрын

​@@pavelfedorov2891it is as of today

Harstem: Banter King, Uthermal: Troll Lord. Woot!

"Yeah, whatever let's go" - printing the t-shirts now bruh 👊

@robertw4411

8 ай бұрын

"oh... that's right, let's go" will be on the back of the shirts

I did it on the Diamond ladder and won like 5 games in a row. Super fun build.

I "love" how the end result of this is going to be Harstem going back to the balance council calling for a bug fix that nerfs Zerg, to wit the dropperlords not being f2-able.

The dropperlord is for zerg civilian logistics and should not be put into the army category. How will our drones go on vacation without their civilian aircraft??

I think this originate from iA and silky's old build "rogafufuken" (yes, yamcha from dragon ball): two base ling flood, a fake attack on natural and a real drop into the main (back then drop can be researched by hatchery). That was a pure PvZ build which has caught so many protoss players out of guard, also resulted in the removal of hatchery droplord research :). And this evolving into a PvT (also PvZ maybe? lol) build with latest buffed hydra is a real nice touch by uthermal.

@sakesaurus

8 ай бұрын

all overlords could be dropperlords after research?

@zardecil9419

8 ай бұрын

@@sakesaurus Only needed an evolution chamber to morph dropperlords. No research necessary.

@sakesaurus

8 ай бұрын

@@zardecil9419 ah nice

Harstem is the master of knowing the algorithm disfavors videos that have viewers end early so he wraps up the ending in 3 seconds flat before anyone can click off, and another video just autoplays right after.

I just saw that short from that pirate guy too. I've never seen him till yesterday.

did he say "I think I a-cheesed something", what a phrase!!

I love this lol. Love both Marc & harstem so that story made me laugh

1:25 It just made me lose it and I laughed in the middle of the night like a maniae XDD

I think if your excited face on the thumbnail gets any more excited you're going to dislocate your jaw.

@sakesaurus

8 ай бұрын

Soyfacing

I respect you admiring you stole it, makes it less stealy👍👍

Don't play sc2 for a long time, but having so mush fun watching how uThermal or you playing this build!)

Nice tribute to mark, he is such a great player, fair play and very entertaining

bro I hate the build in the first game, I've died many times from it (as a toss), all the units are near the wall, I never think to check the main. Great to see it done first person

in this video, harstem finally realizes Zerg is broken at 15:45

I think you could've done some hot pick up micro with the hydra vs roach fight, it's not often you have both hydras and speed dropperlords!

You can do it on 1 gas btw. Instead of going into Hydras you can make a ton of drones and a 3rd while they are dealing with the drop.

"This is as braindead as it becomes." "High tier multitasking."

uthermal is a cheese-wizzard

@5ur3nh0hn

3 ай бұрын

he is THE cheese-wizzard. It's art.

"Exact timings are for losers!" ,Harstem 😆

I used to play EVE Online with the PirateSoftware guy, he was my CEO in-game, it's crazy seeing him suddenly blow up on KZread out of nowhere.

Your webcam quality is amazing!

strong against the immortal. "ya no crap" LMAO

Ya Harsten finally discovered the zerg build that plays like terran haha! Hydralisk drops instead of marine drops, just as deadly!!!!

Would it be a viable protoss build to go stargate, allow opponent to just scout void rays (use for ovie hunting, "defense") so opponent doesn't build spores, but actually be building a proxy darkshrine?

It's funny this many years into playing this game people are still making new builds and playing weird stuff effectively.

This build feels like old days SC2

dang I been rushing 16 ling drops against T & P for a while. I play low Diamond NA and most just 2 base with a wall and rush BC/Carrier so I hit em with the drop early and it crushes. Another strat I revived from olden days is the roach army with banelings hidden in droplords. Marines never see it coming.

Dont know if UThermal mentioned it but that build also seems to transition quite quick and efficiently into mutas or just a handdffull to counter colossus/tanks

This is so Dutch it's sponsored by Heinekin.

The carpenter strikes again 😅

Even if you didn't name uthermal in the title, I think a lot of us would have known who you played against!

15:50 I'm fine with that if infestors and ravens get waterballoons

Is there anyone with a link to the first game they played, where uthermal did the cheese to harstem?

I ling dropped twice on protoss and it worked very well each time (helps to get the +1 melee attack by the the time the drop happens)

@mothrahlurker788

8 ай бұрын

If you have +1 by the time your drop hits you did the build completely wrong and hit way too late.

I watched that game, Mark would say, that he plays Zerg like a Terran. Zerg version of Maru harassment drops.

@jaeyang9540

8 ай бұрын

You didn't steal his Zerg drop lol. You know Mark likes Terran but plays all races. He isn't great with Zerg, so he plays Zerg like Terran. He hates using Bannelings, lol. Wait till someone like Scarlett experiment with it

We need a series of 2v2 team play harstem and uthermal vs the world

would have loved to see a /dance on the dropperlords

For the first ling drop, would breaking 6 off to block the path to the ramp net you some more probe kills?

@DarkDodger

8 ай бұрын

If you right-click a worker onto a mineral field, it can move through units. If you pay attention, you can see when people use that method to control their worker movement, when they start shifting into each other instead of moving like normal units.

Doesn't thermal build and cancel two refineries so he can build extra drones before the first overlord?

I mean, what's the ultimate lategame Zerg comp? A deployable siege unit, a glass cannon high dps infantry unit, and a snipey caster. That is: Play bug Terran.

cap, the dropperlords not moving might have been if they still had poop mode toggled. iirc having that on means they aren't included in f2 and that when they stop moving they'll immediately start pooping again

So what is the actual build order? My ZvZ is my strongest matchup by far because it's the only matchup I have nailed down brain dead timings for any build (ling flood in this case). I need something to be aggressive with in the other 2 matchups.

9 marines actually beat a colossus.

I watched uThermals game and he was so happy about it, golden :)

Great acheesements right here

Plonk down 4 spines as soon as you saw he was going for roaches and I think you would have been in a perfectly playable spot?

Baboon learns starcraft build from Baboon.

Thermy is a legend

15:55 NO NO NO NO Dont you dare

next episode of IODIS, Dear Harstem, i microd and macrod perfectly like a god and I outplayed the enemy zerg all game with my fantastic use of two different control groups. then this guy with kerrigan poster on his wall presses f2 and defends his base with A move while also backdooring into my main base with 8 dropper lords. is it imba or do i suck, here is a hentai drawing of jim raynor trying to find artanises nipples with his tongue

BGMWSS IDEA! Base trade from behind! We all know Kevin likes to do BGMWSS to try and explore new ideas for his serious gameplay. While many players know how to basetrade decently, most players don't have builds designed for basetrades, nor do they usually execute basetrades effeciently. In this episode, the captain should be behind, and make a come back victory with his basetrade. It's an excellent way to practice while entertaining the masses. Cheers Captain, happy trading :)

uThermal is a menace.

That's basically my build from WoL beta.

Now can we get TLO to try this build out?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, they found the overload all army glitch

And now I found out that 4 best bizzard streamers (imho) all are Datch. How? Why? Interesting!

Don't count Droperlords as armies @Harstem, thanks !!!! Fine as it is OR add a include/exclude from all army hotkey switch to all units !!!! Would be appreciated :D

Against zerg you got to go into ultra / infestor / viper xD

If it's stupid but works, it's not stupid. As someone once said, if it's not a viable strategy they should be able to beat you.

We had Fruitdealer, now we have fruitstealer

@space_orphan

8 ай бұрын

Fruitstealer obviously sells the stolen fruit to Fruitdealer

well i just come from ladder and was like let's watch the captain and bam i see the build i just lost to xD

I think as a zerg main I will struggle with this cheese, because it does not use a-move 🤣😋🎉

This is cheesier than most of the stuff on Cheesiest Man Alive!

You and Marc sound a lot alike and not just because you have the same accent. You both share English slang words.

Why should dropperlords count as army??

this is why toss opens robo

@giuseppebonatici7169

8 ай бұрын

phoenix early kill the droperlords and you can also suply block the zerg. also more phoenix counter less hydras with good micro. robo is only good if you manage to make phoenix colossus for some reason, or zerg makes roaches. but 2 bases zerg roach vs protoss 3 base anything looses most of the time, especially after investing in droperlords. the oracle killed less than the zerglings as oracles almost never become cost efficient killing workers. it is more of a utility unit. 4 phoenix harass/scout after the 1 phoenix killed a droperlord should just win. if you scout a roach warren, a second stargate with one additional phoenix for queen kill and then void rays. this is a zerg cheese, as with almost any zerg cheese, the thing is that they are more broken than pre nerf cannon rushes, but they are beatable with a really specific response that requires tons of knowledge and preparation, which is why it feels unfair. but nobody cares because the top zergs and dark usually have to go macro against terran.

nah how nasty is this XD

lol I read the same article about the Celestial Steed making more than WoL. Feelsbadman. Great video, Captain

*Me whenever I win a Zerg game* 30:55

I think that every build that involves lower eco and more/faster use of units will work better for you or Uthermal than Standard play but i dont think is going to translate for most Zerg mains. Trying to say that build like these just fit better ppl doing off-race.

Of course it was Uthermal.

Collab, when?

The hate on Zerg between the lines is real 🐷

I wish they would bring back Wings of Liberty ladder

You need to make one of those clickbait videos: 12,000 Marines vs colossus with infinite super battery who wins?

Blizzard: buffs the Hydralisk 5 patches in a row. Zerg only players: Meh lurker eggs. Terran and protoss players: Yo this some gourmet S#!t.

Absolutely awesome soy face in the thumbnail. double thumbs up

I see Uthermals name … i click and watch the video heeh

Stealing Fruits 😆

who would you say is the most creative and cheesiest player in the history of SC2 ?

Welcome to the diamond league, captain!! ;D Hydras are kinda imba, especially when you suck as a low MMR-player.

Have you played against uThermal? Do you have a video?