I Spent 2 Years at Game Development School... Was it Worth it?

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In February 2022 I began attending a programming course at a game development school. In this video, I discuss my experience, the projects I completed, some regrets I have, and whether it's worth it if you're thinking about attending a game dev school.
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My name is Ben, and I am an indie game developer. I'm looking to make videos consistently; however, I can't promise fast uploads due to life stuffs. But for now, I hope you enjoyed!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:27 Starting the Course
2:53 C#, C++, and 2D Tank Game
3:42 Arkanoid
4:30 AI and 2D Hitman
5:16 Unity UI and Skill Tree
5:51 Cross Platform Game
6:29 First Year Final Project
7:41 Physics Engine and 3D Tank Game
8:26 Graphics Engine and Robot Painting Game
9:11 Unity Utility AI System
9:47 VR Fishing Game
10:25 Second Year Final Project
11:03 Was it Worth it?
13:15 Guide to Game Dev School
16:08 Outro

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  • @dutchyx4052
    @dutchyx40526 ай бұрын

    NEW VIDEO LETS GOOOOOOOOO

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    LETS GOOOOOOOOO CANT WAIT FOR THE NEW GROG ONE TOO!

  • @Meowzors
    @Meowzors6 ай бұрын

    You did like 4x more things that i did in 4 years at my game dev school

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    I made it a goal of mine to make proper games for most of my assessments, even if the requirements didn't ask me to. So I ended up with quite a few games I could show off 😁

  • @ReveredDead

    @ReveredDead

    3 ай бұрын

    @@benjaydev And that's how you become successful brother. I bet game companies loved to see that stuff in interviews.

  • @hamzahgamedev
    @hamzahgamedev6 ай бұрын

    I am a self taught game dev and in the industry professionally from almost a decade now.... I always thought maybe if I had gone to Game Dev school things might have been different(easy) but after watching your video I think things would have been same anyways haha. All the best for your journey and I wish you all the best mate !

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    Wow that's amazing! Thanks for watching and commenting 😁 There's likely no easy way in, just gotta put a lot of time and effort into becoming a skilled developer, like you!

  • @kaedejenkinson5268
    @kaedejenkinson52686 ай бұрын

    As an artist who currently take visual art in university, I cannot agree more 😭

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    Good luck with everything!

  • @rjmichalski7172
    @rjmichalski71726 ай бұрын

    I have heard to get a normal CS degree than get a normal job and do game dev at home.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    Absolutely, that is certainly a smart and less risky way of doing game dev. If I could go back in time, I'd likely go that route!

  • @indiecore-2022

    @indiecore-2022

    5 ай бұрын

    I got a certificate in full Stack and did gamedev at home and it's the way to go

  • @SufianDira

    @SufianDira

    5 ай бұрын

    I’m not sure I agree, I’m in my final year of a CS bachelors degree, with an interest in a game development career path. We do spend more time learning discrete math, computer architecture, data structures, algorithm design and analysis, operating systems, and many more computer science related stuff. But we graduate with one or two projects that might be related to game dev or might not. With no on hand experience developing games, from scratch, or with an engine. So, considering what kind of experience the industry is expecting, at least where I live, someone with an education like you is far more likely to get a job in game development.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    @@SufianDira I do agree that doing game dev related education will usually give you more relevant experience and projects to show off. However, from my experience, I've seen that most employers are looking for a CS degree or similar, as well as experience in game dev which makes it a bit tricky. So there's pros and cons to both roots, one leaves you with a far stronger qualifications but less relevant experience, and the other with the opposite. In the end it comes down to going above and beyond your education if you really wanna do game dev.

  • @reneticsk

    @reneticsk

    5 ай бұрын

    @@SufianDirathat’s my exact thoughts. I’ve learned more game development from random Unity projects than any college class

  • @rjmichalski7172
    @rjmichalski71726 ай бұрын

    That is great advice at the end! Totally agree with everything.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching! I appreciate it 😁

  • @roachman3225
    @roachman32254 ай бұрын

    working on my game and currently learning + making pixel art to get some assets which has been tough but I believe I am making some alright progress as I have been grinding for a month or so and having fun. I think a big part of my progress is the chinese manhuas that deals with qi and stuff like cultivation broadening my mind to see how small I am in this world. As a matter of fact, I think it helped me formed some sort of dao towards game development and see some mystical truth about it. I have been seeing some weird changes too where I enjoy writing essays for my classes and stuff. I'm not sure where I am going with this, but if anyone is lost or not sure what their dao is read some chinese manhuas or novels to form your own martial spirit and have their brain be expanded beyond the veil.

  • @novoca1n3
    @novoca1n36 ай бұрын

    You've come a long way and have achieved a lot over the years. Proud of the young man you've grown into

  • @ToastE-
    @ToastE-4 ай бұрын

    Amazing journey love to hear it especially since im Australian to and im looking at getting into game dev great to see a fellow Aussie in the game dev community.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks 😁Australia FTW! good luck with your future in game dev, I believe in you!

  • @backyy07
    @backyy075 ай бұрын

    Definitely can relate, Im learning game art in a game dev school in germany. and they decided to keep the online aspect. its very isolating and I dont really get to work with my peers. Although the best way to learn and have fun is by participating in game jams. I made some very deep connections during a weekend making a game. in my opinion its the best way of getting to know game devs. of course you somehow need to know the fundamentals to participate. im on my last year of game dev school so wish me luck!

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah game jams are great! Good luck with the rest of your course 😁

  • @hangyboi
    @hangyboi6 ай бұрын

    After 2 years of Mechanical Engineering, I dropped out of university, and decided to go for Game Development bachelor course. Instead of 2 years you have, I got 4 years, which includes internship/minors and diploma defence. Also we have the same designer/artist/engineer division and structure of the curriculum. So far, I love it very much. You learn a bunch of stuff yourself mostly, but good thing is that it can be graded and you get feedback. However, the only problem I am facing is lack of discipline to constantly push myself to do my assignments throughout the weeks (and not grind asaf in the last week before deadline). And your words: “Don’t do bare minimum” - they hit hard. I’m trying to become better at this, since I love to learn new stuff, but feel unmotivated, either distracted by social medias or games. I really want to get an internship, so I need a strong portfolio for it, and I have 1.5 years till that moment. I should keep reminding myself to work for it and my potential future and not for passing grade and minimum. Thank you for your video and experience, it was interesting to listen about other game dev courses around the world ❤

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching! I hope everything goes well for you, I'm sure you'll find a way to get that motivation you're looking for❤

  • @thelma4142
    @thelma41425 ай бұрын

    Wow so interesting to watch & listen to. As a Nana with very little knowledge of computers & technology just about all of it was beyond my comprehension but as your Nana I am so proud of you 🥰🥰🥰

  • @KazMaz18
    @KazMaz183 ай бұрын

    Awesome video! I am currently heading into my last year of Computer Science and the biggest thing for me was the lack of game development or even the mention of it in my classes. Seems like Colleges want graduates to become cracked Web Devs or Deep Learning Gurus. Which has it's merits, but man, making games in my free time is so much fun.

  • @snozbucket
    @snozbucket3 ай бұрын

    I think this is where studying game dev degree might be beneficial. I'm currently doing a Bachelors of Games Dev at UTS and there's a lot of core subjects that's shared with comp sci. I have met quite a few who went over to comp sci or comp sci students who chose game dev subjects. While it's not ALL about making games it does actually really provide a solid foundation for the students to go which ever way they want later on down the track. But speaking honestly I'm almost finishing up my second semester and I've just been teaching myself Unity and coding haha. I think if you truly are passionate about games dev perhaps just acquire the experience is more important than any piece of paper you'll ever get. They can only teach you so much about the process but most of it won't show itself or learnt from until you start making your own games.

  • @logstargamer6365
    @logstargamer63653 ай бұрын

    This video gives some insight to game dev school, which I respect very much! Honestly as a self-taught game developer(I am a roblox developer.) It gives some ideas on whether should I go to a game dev school. I might go or might not, since I started very early for game development(like 12 years old) though I'm a bit slow in the programming side. Thanks for the video and I'll try to check if there is a gamedev community in my country!

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm glad it helped!

  • @JuhoSprite
    @JuhoSprite5 ай бұрын

    Hey dude its Matt from history class, Im glad ur still doing your thing with youtube, I know u were always someone who was on the grind so im glad ur going strong. Pls keep being you man!!!! its all love

  • @Build_Secrets
    @Build_Secrets3 ай бұрын

    For people watching this in the future. Knowing the hiring practices of a variety of game studios from small to some of the biggest out there; they see "game school" for lack of a better term, as a negative. There are a bunch of graduates, all passing similar courses, and very few stand out at all. What they are really looking for is experience in the industry. Everything useful you learn at school/college you can learn for far less cost online, and you can get the required experience in the industry by working on successful mods for existing games, and competing in game jams to build a broader portfolio and expose yourself to new ways of thinking, and new contacts. If you are dedicated, then this is a far cheaper, faster, more effective route to employment by a development studio. If you do want to go the more traditional route, go for a computer science degree. A higher qualification, giving you more technical understanding and capability, enabling you to more easily seek work outside of the game industry too if you choose (where the pay is much higher).

  • @omerahmed4066
    @omerahmed40663 ай бұрын

    im definetly gonna do game dev at home instead of pursuing it as a degree, but I still wanna go for a degree that involves me creating. Like something that gives me creative control over my university projects, and gives me a chance to develop my creative skills and development

  • @johnmerriam7844
    @johnmerriam78444 ай бұрын

    looks really cool man. awesome

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @charlesthedev
    @charlesthedev5 ай бұрын

    This is s fantastic round up ⬆️

  • @Mikania-vt5rq
    @Mikania-vt5rq6 ай бұрын

    I come from CMD (Communication and Multimedia Design) and aspire to pursue a career in the game development industry. While you learn a diverse skill set, it can also lead to being a jack of all trades, master of none, requiring one to learn most things independently. I've acquired knowledge in HTML, CSS, JavaScript, Arduino, and Processing through my CMD education, but I've had to teach myself C# and GDScript. When comparing this to a computer science degree, I see it as a stable option, but it might not prioritize the specific skills I aim to develop, similar to the situation with my current degree."

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    Yep, a lot of education can be like that. Despite learning some cool stuff at game dev school, I learnt the majority of my actual game engine relevant skills by myself

  • @ToowerVR
    @ToowerVR5 ай бұрын

    I’m here to say I was here from the beginning keep up the hard work

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the support!

  • @StaleC00kie
    @StaleC00kie5 ай бұрын

    Hi! I completed the exact same course at AIE, I'm assuming you also did it at AIE. Something that really helped me was doing GDML (Graduate Diploma of Management Learning) after getting my graduate diploma. It taught me more than I expected, a lot of it was business, but a lot of it was also a lot of soft skills. (I also took my game to PAX Melbourne in 2023, which was very cool!) I'm in Adelaide, and going to be running my own company this year with the assistance of the Incubator Program. So that's another opportunity accessible to me by doing GDML.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Hey! Yeah quite a few of my friends ended up going into that course, but I decided to take a different path. I've primarily made the choice to work in a more general job and undertake game development independently, as I find indie development and content creation super fun. Anyways, good luck with your company! Are you going to set up at Game Plus?

  • @FuGyz
    @FuGyz6 ай бұрын

    As an artist in multimedia that loves game development, I totally agree with this!

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @kozmobotgames
    @kozmobotgames5 ай бұрын

    I started my channel in June 2022 and my first tutorials for Unity engine were published in December 2022. I decided to give myself a fresh start although I had a channel for traditional and digital drawing one year earlier and was thinking of opening another channel for game design and character drawing, but I changed my mind and started game development instead. Now with almost 800 subscribers I can say that I have fulfilled my game dev dream and it was the best decision for my career.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Good job! Keep it up 😁

  • @GoeTeeks
    @GoeTeeks5 ай бұрын

    As someone who once made that same choice but chose the more general Computer Science degree instead of game dev, I have to say that it looks like the stuff you did in your course was very relevant to the work you wanted to do. Computer Science is good for teaching you fundamentals about approaching design and architecture of code, but not very good at teaching real world skills. IE: I learned about how Hash Tables and Linked Lists worked, but I didn't learn anything about how to draw a shader or move a character in game space (I learned nothing about video games at all from my courses, actually). I wasn't taught anything about what an API is or how to consume it, but I could tell you how you can convert binary into hexadecimal, or decimal, or even octal, among other base counters. Point is, you learned a lot more practical skills while computer science is more theory based.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah for sure! A lot of the concepts really helped me improve my game development

  • @jellifygirl
    @jellifygirl14 күн бұрын

    Huh, that's like, the normal kind of game dev school then... The one I'm going to is more like a super specialised SEN school, with small classes and teaching lower level generalised things like researching other games, simple web-portfolio making, learning spriting, modelling and animating, and making small demos/POCs over a longer period of time. They didn't care I had missing qualifications (my HS didn't let me try my science exam, and you need to do speaking for English which I can't do), it's paid for by my EHCP, and if the HS landscape is anything to go by I'd have ended up dead anywhere else, so it was closer to a miracle than a choice. Getting to make games is kind of a bonus, the flexibility basically means that you can do anything as long as it displays the skills and understanding they ask you to display. I made my first game demo in Godot instead of Unreal because it was easier for me, used my own assets instead of the reccomended ones, and after asking, I was able to fuse multiple research questions into one or even skip some as long as I had demonstrated my understanding elsewhere. Any games or assets or illustrations I make in my own time still go on the same portfolio and it feels rewarding. It's nothing crazy for a neurotypical or employer's perspective, but for me it's an easygoing learning environment that gets the government off my ass about jobs for a few years, doesn't spend all its time violating my human rights and safety, and lets me have fun, talk to people, and actually LEARN for the first time since Year 7. AND they have the equipment so you can mess around with VR and PC tools/game dev if you don't have the hardware at home. Worth it. I'd go here forever if I could. (I have another year, and then, the torment shall begin once more. May I survive long enough to make a game that makes another autist as happy as Pikmin makes me.)

  • @Orioxified
    @Orioxified4 ай бұрын

    I am about to graduate with a degree in game design and production and your stuff is significantly more impressive than almost anything ive made. i got a lot of learning to do 😂😅

  • @joshuagriffis9888
    @joshuagriffis98885 ай бұрын

    I was someone that wanted to do game development, but decided on a computer science degree for giving myself more options, but i had difficulties, mainly financial that held me back and had to dropout, and i finally decided to go back to school again due to covid for game development. I graduated with honours in spring of 2023 and got thrown right into the mess that was going on in the gaming industry.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for telling your story. Sorry for the difficulties you had to face. The financial side of things can definitely be difficult, schooling is so overpriced nowadays, and covid definitely made thing very hard. Have you had much luck with the industry in 2024?

  • @joshuagriffis9888

    @joshuagriffis9888

    5 ай бұрын

    @benjaydev, I was able to get something part time for a start up studio during my final semester that i worked on weekends, right after i graduated i was let go due to budget and spent months trying to find something again. In August i was contacted by my old boss at that start up, he was able to get some funding and i was offered a full time position but below industry norms for pay. I worked like that for a solid 5 months and was let go again before Christmas due to budget again as the release had to be pushed back, he always assured me it wasn't my performance and i understand the reasons but i still felt saddened by it, been trying to get up on my feet again, had to move me and my wife back in with family while im attempting to find my footing again. I have been trying to look for remote work while trying to come up with indie game ideas that i can work on. I did enjoy being in a team more than being on my own though.

  • @joshuagriffis9888

    @joshuagriffis9888

    5 ай бұрын

    @@benjaydev, To add more during 2023, I was able to get myself a part time job during my final semester, helping out a start up company work on their game prototype, but after i graduated, i was let go due to budget. I then spent a few months trying to find something but not able to, not even jobs like McDonalds were hiring, I almost had to move out due to my money running out. Luckilly in August I was contacted by my old boss as they were able to get funding for the project and i was hired on full time, but my salary was below industry norms due to the budget, but i was happy. I worked like that until right before Christmas, when i was let go due to the budget again, i was reassured it was not because of my performance but i was still sad about it. I was not able to find anything after due to the holidays and had to resort to moving my wife and me back in with family until we could get back on our feet. I have been trying to get work or remote work ever since, been trying to come up with some indie game ideas to maybe go that route, but not doing so well.

  • @mountainace6296
    @mountainace62965 ай бұрын

    the hitman game sounds cool,I'll try to make one too

  • @Whyyoumadd822
    @Whyyoumadd8224 ай бұрын

    I went to study game development at a university I absolutely hated it I hated how the course was structured I hated how I was tested I hated it all I dropped out and now I'm doing game dev from scratch again at home and it's amazing I find myself waking up wanting to learn more, wanting to code more it's crazy

  • @benjaydev
    @benjaydev6 ай бұрын

    Are you thinking of attending game development school? or have you attended one already? Tell me your story :)

  • @kamo7329
    @kamo73295 ай бұрын

    SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH Its the guy that made Grog!!!

  • @ThatGuyfr1
    @ThatGuyfr15 ай бұрын

    Thank you for making this video. I m still in highschool and can't find a career

  • @Bananenbauer123
    @Bananenbauer1236 ай бұрын

    Incredible video! Your projects looked amazing. I started a game design course at a private university at the age of 20. And I do not recommend it. It's *way too expensive*, like, I definitely liked it, I enjoyed learning more about what I wanted to learn, but game development is honestly way too complex. You should have a couple years of experience either in programming or art, that way you can get the most out of the projects you will be making with other students. Either way, being part of the rich parents' kids club, I studied for over 4 years, failing my bachelor twice before quitting. So no bachelor degree for me. Yes, I know lots about game design now, but without a portfolio of semi decent projects where those ideas are applied, you basically have nothing to show. The projects we made were waaayy shittier than anything shown in this video. Most of us were really young, didn't know how to program or make art. The lectures taught some of the basics and starting from the 3rd semester there was a specialization for either art or programming. Me picking art we learned about illustration, traditional drawing, 3d modelling, 3d animation next to the usual game design lectures. Seriously, *don't do this!* if you consider applying for one of these schools it should be one that specializes in ONE category! The only game worthwhile presenting is something I made all by myself over the course of 4 months using Unreal and its Blueprint System. Also, turns out early 20s students are not the most reliable of people. Some won't show up, or they just won't perform the tasks (in time or at all) that you as a team agreed on... It was all a huge mess and a massive drain on motivation. Lots of people quit because they didn't like it or ran out of money. Despite all of us liking video games I had trouble connecting with most of them. Lastly, do research regarding job opportunities. In Germany there are very very few game companies and those remaining are either not hiring or insanely picky. So unless you have 5 years of experience as a game programmer or game artist it's looking pretty grim. You will also likely have to move away from family and friends. Ultimately it was a pretty depressing period of my life, facing reality after many years of chasing a dream that was way out of reach. Things took quite a turn, I'm now an apprentice in web development and spending a little time here and there learning more about game dev. I can also say that learning programming at your everyday job will be a huge boon if you are serious about this. As an artist you pretty much have to team up with a programmer really.. because learning programming on your own time is hard af yet very much mandatory to get a game working. Either way that's it for me, hope it added something to the conversation.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for telling your story! I totally understand your experience and the struggles you faced. I agree that it is way too expensive and people very much over glamorise the idea of game dev schools. Many people quit after the first year of my course as well, possibly close to half, leaving us with just 6 programmers for the second year. This meant most group projects were left with a single programmer, which increased the workload significantly. I definitely found that a few people were not reliable for sure, especially in the first year before most of them quit. To the point where I was trying to do their work for them, just to save them from failing (Which obviously didn't work). Despite all of that, I was quite lucky in my circumstances and the experience generally ended positively for me. I became friends with some really great people. I'm sorry to hear things weren't the best for you during your time there, but it's good to hear that things have turned around. I'm glad you've found a path that works for you! Anyways, thanks again for sharing!

  • @Bananenbauer123

    @Bananenbauer123

    6 ай бұрын

    @@benjaydev I appreciate it! And yes, the programmer artist ratio was 1:5 for us as well.

  • @venomtang
    @venomtang5 ай бұрын

    Yo bro cool vid, if you didn't know any coding did they teach it?

  • @DurRhyme
    @DurRhyme8 күн бұрын

    that ant game is so dope, I hope you can still work on it because it could be a winner

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    7 күн бұрын

    Yeah, it would be a really cool project to refine. I would love to work on a newer version oneday if I can get the time and the right people

  • @itsafish4600
    @itsafish46005 ай бұрын

    thanks bro

  • @buckets3628
    @buckets36285 ай бұрын

    great thx

  • @rkcoder
    @rkcoder4 ай бұрын

    I know this is kinda unrelated but how long did it take you to make this video? Game dev is already a very time consuming process so how'd you manage to make videos on top of it, I would like to know and for some advice haha

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    4 ай бұрын

    Hey so usually it takes about 1-2 days for scripting & voice recording and 2-3 days for editing. I try my best to record most footage during my development process, however sometimes I do have to go back and record some more, which adds a bit more time as well. So I'd say just under a week on average to get a video done and ready to release.

  • @zekernz1019
    @zekernz10195 ай бұрын

    hey so i have a problem. I have understood the basics of c++.I know what the basics are but how do i get to advance? Like how do i start making projects? how do i get from knowing things to making things?

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Hey so that's definitely a difficult part that a lot of people face when learning game dev/programming. Honestly, it's quite hard to say what's best for you to do, as different things work for different people. I can say that for me, I started by making small text based games that can be played in the command console, basically a text adventure or a little 2D game like tic tac toe (A website like replit.com is super useful). Then, my first experience in a game engine was Unreal Engine with blueprints and C++, where I worked on small first person games where you collect items or dodge obstacles. And finally I moved to Unity where I pretty much think of a cool game idea I want to do, and I try my best to make it. I've also done quite a bit of website development and 3D multiplayer web games. This was over the span of about 7 years so it was a lot of trial and error. The main thing is to give yourself a goal, start making chunks of it, and when you get stuck, research ways to solve the problem. Don't be discouraged if you get stuck, that moment of research and solving the problem is the best way to learn. Good luck!

  • @danielhayes3607
    @danielhayes36076 ай бұрын

    You can't teach "lightning in a bottle"

  • @TheTrolderia
    @TheTrolderia5 ай бұрын

    How did you setup the multiplayer for grog? And was it hard?

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    I used the Steamworks.NET unity package and implemented multiplayer through the Steam networking interfaces. Steam networking allows for P2P connections which means I don't have to worry about making my own servers. It usually takes a while to understand the syntax of some of the Steam systems, but once you get it, it's very powerful. I'd say if you want to do multiplayer, look into ISteamNetworkingMessages, ISteamNetworkingSockets and ISteamMatchmaking Interfaces.

  • @user-joubesgames
    @user-joubesgames5 ай бұрын

    Bruhh... I still have 2years before college(currently learning c++) just like you, and I'm interested on creating games. Do you think this is a good idea?

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    I'd say if you're absolutely deadset on becoming a game developer and willing to spend a lot of your free time making projects, game dev college could work for you, as they usually teach relevant skills. In reality, whether you chose game dev college or not, you will have to spend a lot of your own time improving your skills and making games to have a chance to enter the industry. So just make sure you are 100% sure before you commit. Hope that helps a bit!

  • @brycetaylor-ps5cx
    @brycetaylor-ps5cx5 ай бұрын

    What institute did you go to?

  • @MichaelEmbers
    @MichaelEmbers5 ай бұрын

    I left game dev school for that exact reason and got my computer science degree instead lol

  • @AfilXDev
    @AfilXDev6 ай бұрын

    Fire vídeo

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @GeenSama
    @GeenSama5 ай бұрын

    Thanks, I'll probably just study computer science and do indie game dev

  • @theupsider
    @theupsider5 ай бұрын

    Get a CS degree. The game dev you can do while studying. Some Udemy course etc. The foundations you learn in CS are invaluable later on, especially when your game scales or complex mechanics come into place. As well as for stuff like shaders or graphics programming as a whole, where mathematics are important.

  • @cheesymcnuggets
    @cheesymcnuggets5 ай бұрын

    I'm self-taught but the real problem is I have no pressure to complete anything, I'm a chronic procrastinator lol. I would do game jams but i would rather just work on my game, yk? Eventually when I have an impressive enough portfolio, i want to try and go professional, Melbourne seems to be mostly unity mobile devs, I did use Unity for my first year of gamedev before switching to Godot at the end of last year, they're quite similar and i still use C# so I should be chill on my skills. I just need to prove I can make games first, but tbh, im not even sure I can... Over a year of gamedev and I only have 2 very laughable games that anyone could remake in 2 hours, then I also have a weapon and bullet hell system i was working on before switching to Godot, but after learning Godot, I realised how bad it was, yeah they were highly configurable and bug-free but they werent really that modular, just massive scripts with a bunch of code cramped inside where 90% of it wont be needed all at once, it really bothers me, so messy and unnecessary. Now im hardly even making a game, just been writing out a world and story for the past 3 months because i suddenly decided I wanted to make an Undertale x Hyper Light Drifter game but refuse to work on the mechanics before I know how the game is gonna look and refuse to work on art before i know what it should be expressing, the art needs to reflect the story, the gameplay could be done on it's own but I did that with the weapon and bullet hell system and now i kinda just want to do some art so im working on the story first so i can work on the art asap. See what I mean? I'm so unorganised and chaotic, I need order but I have so many reasons to NOT go to uni. Instead of finishing my story, here i am watching youtube. I'm hopeless lmao. Undertale took 3 years, Hyper Light Drifter took 5 years, Im not making a game nearly as big but it's gonna take me twice as long, god damn

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah I totally get you. Don't be too hard on yourself for not getting too much done. Sometimes we forget how much stuff there is to do as a solo dev, like planning, programming, designing, making art, possibly marketing, your portfolio, and so much more. It can be quite daunting trying to make games by yourself. Just try your best to keep at it, whether slowly or fast, just try do game dev consistently. And yeah, Melbourne is definitely the center of game development in Australia, even outside of mobile. Good luck with your journey!

  • @pilottim136
    @pilottim1365 ай бұрын

    i am learning game-dev myself for end of last year :D

  • @user-di4vc7ln5c

    @user-di4vc7ln5c

    5 ай бұрын

    mee too

  • @sicknostalgia9934
    @sicknostalgia99345 ай бұрын

    Love your chromatic shift. How did you make it less than 100 mb space

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Currently it's just about 100MB as most assets are pixel art which don't take up too much space. However, by the time the game is released, it's likely gonna be over 100MB as I have a bit more content to add. I'll have to update the steam page 😅

  • @Klusek.
    @Klusek.6 ай бұрын

    Do they learn u in this school from basics or u need to have a lot of knowledge? It's seems interesting, i wanna code, but I don't know how to learn alone

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    Yep you could enter with only basic knowledge and they will teach you most of the hard stuff, but it will be very difficult to keep up. I'd say if you want to learn, you should start with making a small project with a programming language like Python, maybe a text adventure game (replit.com is a good website for code projects). And Google the very basics of it such as print, variables, input, and if elif else statements. Whenever you get stuck, try searching for ways to solve the problem you're having. It will be very annoying sometimes trying learn things, however it can be very effective. Just be patient as it will take a while to learn, you will figure it out eventually. Good luck!

  • @Klusek.

    @Klusek.

    6 ай бұрын

    @@benjaydev Understable btw nice video

  • @Cuetip-_-
    @Cuetip-_-Ай бұрын

    i start my game dev college classes august

  • @dnsjtoh
    @dnsjtoh6 ай бұрын

    My question is what did you learn in terms of basics (math, physics, etc) which do matter for a CS degree, and therefore probably matter for game dev? So many “self taught” people gloss right over stuff like discrete math and linear algebra which is ultimately the pure fundamentals of all computer graphics.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    Yep I agree that many self taught people would miss out on some areas of maths. The stuff we learnt was primarily linear algebra as it is a major component of every game. Matrices and Vectors were pretty much taught from the day we started. However I believe even self taught game devs would have an understanding of basic linear algebra, maybe lacking some knowledge on things like dot and cross products though. As for discrete mathematics, here in Australia, we learnt the fundamentals during year 12, which was before even reaching higher education. So I'd assume most people would have a basic understanding. So yeah I'd say most self taught game devs wouldn't have an understanding of higher level linear algebra and the maths that goes into the physics systems we see in game engines. I would like to add though that despite being "taught" at game dev school, it was pretty much "Here is a concept, try make this, if you can't, here's the answer lol". So a lot of people were lazy and just tried cruising through without actually taking it all in. In the end, unless you expand your skills in your own time as well, game dev school will be useless. I suppose that applies to everything in life though 🤷

  • @dnsjtoh

    @dnsjtoh

    5 ай бұрын

    @@benjaydev Ah, thats really interesting that you guys learn discrete math in grade 12. In the US it’s usually calculus in 12th grade. I’m glad that they teach you that stuff, because it’s so useful to have a fundamental understanding of how graphics actually work, even if you don’t use the math on a day to day basis.

  • @bencourtemanche
    @bencourtemanche5 ай бұрын

    Were you also an artist? Some of the art in these games look great!

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Nah I'm not an artist sadly 😅 The group projects had dedicated artists to make everything look nice, and in some of my solo projects I used a few premade assets.

  • @bencourtemanche

    @bencourtemanche

    5 ай бұрын

    @@benjaydevah ok, that ant game looked really good reminded me of Deep Rock Galactic. My group projects don’t have dedicated art people so art is always an obstacle.

  • @thiccbeetboi
    @thiccbeetboi4 ай бұрын

    I like seeing your video from the perspective of someone who chose the safer option. I got my AAS in software development from community college and I'm almost a year into being a developer. I'm learning Unreal now on the side and I would have to say the best practices and design patterns I learned have been very important to learning any new programming language, framework , etc. How much of your program would you say was focused on best practices and the more technical aspects of writing clean code? Things like Test driven development, writing unit tests, logging, Object oriented principles, etc?

  • @YoNatrix
    @YoNatrix6 ай бұрын

    Im in my 1st year of game dev school but what did you do after school to earn a income?

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    I've personally decided to start working in jobs which aren't really related to games, but that need programming skills, and I do most game development at home

  • @Merino33

    @Merino33

    5 ай бұрын

    @@benjaydevif you wanted to could you have applied for a job at a existing development studio?

  • @Soul-vt8lq
    @Soul-vt8lq4 ай бұрын

    i am impressed

  • @Kikolek
    @Kikolek4 ай бұрын

    To be fair, despite you're not having bachelor's degree, you're far far more into game dev than most students with computer science degree. You know much more than the ppl in collegue. I myselft went for CS degree with specialization of game development, and the things that they teach you are so much worse than what you know rn. We're learning a bunch of stuff from all the places, like some Unity, some .net crossplatform apps stuff, and others. This year i'm finishing my bachelors and I feel like I just wasted a bunch of time pursuing it. I hope with Masters degree it will change, but meanwhile I've bought a course for around 500$ that so far tought me a lot more gamedev stuff than some collegue which more or less wasted about 3 years of my life for some paper lmao

  • @RoyalDog214

    @RoyalDog214

    2 ай бұрын

    $500 course? I wonder what course it was that you purchased.

  • @4F6D
    @4F6D3 ай бұрын

    My current plan is, CS Degree, after that going to a game dev university while having a job and paying for it. I think this option is the safest and best.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    3 ай бұрын

    Sounds like a good plan, good luck!

  • @4F6D

    @4F6D

    3 ай бұрын

    @@benjaydev Thanks!

  • @milantiquestudios7460
    @milantiquestudios74605 ай бұрын

    "You can guess what I decided on-" Corn. ... O uh yes. game development. Of course. Obvious answer. lol

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @Programmingwithrohit
    @ProgrammingwithrohitАй бұрын

    Is it normal get ideas from movies and series

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    Ай бұрын

    Yes of course! Inspiration can come from lots of places, including movies and TV shows. I've had heaps of ideas come from watching things 👍

  • @Jvalan
    @Jvalan4 ай бұрын

    Bro went to aie💀

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    4 ай бұрын

    💀

  • @stateflower3213
    @stateflower32134 ай бұрын

    Epic

  • @jojodelivery5916
    @jojodelivery59165 ай бұрын

    is game development school worth it if you can go for free? I'm in the military right now, i'm developing a 3rd person action rpg in Unreal Engine 5. My goal is to work in the AAA gaming industry. After I get out the Army, i'll be able to attend any school for free. Is it worth it?

  • @HTWwpzIuqaObMt
    @HTWwpzIuqaObMt5 ай бұрын

    3:06 its OOP for anyone confused

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Oops yep, didn't notice that mistake until now. Thanks!

  • @gameworkerty
    @gameworkerty5 ай бұрын

    I'm a professor at a small game school outside of Seattle in the USA, it's very interesting to see your experience and how different that school's curriculum is from mine. Zoom classes definitely sucked. I will note that at least in the USA it's illegal for you to record a zoom call of a class and to put even a sped up version on a youtube video, but privacy laws might be different in Australia.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    Don't worry, I didn't actually record any of my calls, I just found a random one on KZread. 😅

  • @gameworkerty

    @gameworkerty

    5 ай бұрын

    @@benjaydev cool, good thinking!

  • @squarerootof2
    @squarerootof26 ай бұрын

    Is it necessary to wear a woolly hat permanently to succeed in game or web development?

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    6 ай бұрын

    A woolly hat can certainly help. Though I much prefer to wear a full set of chain mail armour while wielding an iron broadsword so I can stab the screen when things don't work out. Hope that helps!

  • @IAmDefintlyMe
    @IAmDefintlyMe5 ай бұрын

    ... game dev school is a thing??!!

  • @Kohta019

    @Kohta019

    5 ай бұрын

    Well, I mean, here in UK we have College's that have courses like Game's Design. Hope that clears your mind.

  • @placeholder4289
    @placeholder42895 ай бұрын

    So you need previous XP in coding/game dev to get into game dev school? Nah not worth it at all then.

  • @pokemainiak
    @pokemainiak5 ай бұрын

    Oh shoot was this AIE? I bet this was AIE.

  • @benjaydev

    @benjaydev

    5 ай бұрын

    👀

  • @brycetaylor-ps5cx

    @brycetaylor-ps5cx

    5 ай бұрын

    @@benjaydevyep you went to aie my friend knows you aie is so shit only because expensive you’re not guaranteed anything and it’s harder to get into the industry due to the market now without a degree

  • @pokemainiak

    @pokemainiak

    5 ай бұрын

    @@brycetaylor-ps5cx That's where I'm currently at and tbh it feels like a money laundering business

  • @brycetaylor-ps5cx

    @brycetaylor-ps5cx

    5 ай бұрын

    @@pokemainiak good luck with it

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