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Really appreciating the fact you play in private lobbies and not smurfing in real ranks
@ChaoticRain1
Жыл бұрын
ah no wonder everyone is so polite and non toxic XD
@feedbuster3715
Жыл бұрын
@@ChaoticRain1 sea server is the only toxic place 😂
@Jebu911
9 ай бұрын
@@feedbuster3715 You are acting like the russian filled european server isnt toxic at all? Sounds like the good old bias that "my server is the most toxic"
@lukeskywalker6641
8 ай бұрын
Which means all he's teaching is imaginary and doesn't work in real matches.
@morrywolf2203
8 ай бұрын
@@Jebu911 russian server is less toxic than sea server. I played on both and sea is just the worse
It's funny how mid DK at 28:36 complains to the team "give me some farm!" while chad Abbadon has been farming quietly and efficiently all game (without taking his carry's farm).
@JAFrk
Жыл бұрын
also funny that DK complained about not being able to kill Storm without bkb when he didn't even bother to go blink first
Thanks for the content BSJ, this stuff is incredible! The constant proactive + calm thinking is exactly what Dota players need. I assure all you guys out there: 6k players still aren't critical thinking and you CAN get there with a slightly above average amount of skill. Best of luck everyone
@Moch117
Жыл бұрын
Love your videos man please make more
@outlawdota
Жыл бұрын
@@Moch117 Planning on it! :)
@fridaandersen8920
Жыл бұрын
Wtf we have the same profile pic😂
@emmanuelwilliamquinton9152
Жыл бұрын
Love your video too !
@MrCaturday
Жыл бұрын
Nah sorry i appreciate the motivation but thats bullshit. The average player is around 2k or so. Slightly above that would be 2,5k or so. 6k is already like the top 5% or even less.
This has been the most exciting video of the smurfing series.
This dk tried his hardest to throw that game, somehow you guys pulled through.
Very nice content! Is it possible to also briefly show gold/xp/win probability graphs at the end, although it's a private lobby?
Poor DK, getting roasted every 5 minutes xD
Great content. I’m starting to see how you win tough games like these.
@rorykaufmann1508
8 ай бұрын
Yeah very impressive / informative. I would have mentally given up at least 3 times during the game, he stays calm and plays greedy + smart.
Honestly I lost my hope in Dota community when I saw this DK being kinda salty in a fricking lobby
@threth5176
Жыл бұрын
"surely I have a team" - DK after rage buyback and goes solo into enemy jungle at 30 mins
@Meyveda
Жыл бұрын
@@threth5176 well, he made the game feel real
thanks for the content bsj we would really like more of this educational smurf games thank you
really love these educational videos. Teaches me a lot every single time.
It looked like late mid game, BSJ forgot he had meteor hammer; either that or was saving it for something specific
you could show the overall after the match, showing itens and dmg given/taken
35:55 thats a good tip. ignoring what your teammates are doing, especially when its an unnecessary play.
@xIcarus227
Жыл бұрын
It's difficult to figure out when to do it, especially since according to lower-ranked teams everything they do is important and they flame you for not joining fights. Had a guy in Legend deadass tell me to smoke with them at min 14 as a PA that was just finishing a Battlefury, and proceeded to flame me half the game because of it. It was hilarious.
@druidzown
Жыл бұрын
@@xIcarus227 yeah, I feel that. Has happened to me multiple times. I feel like people don't realize the roles of certain carries, obviously PA is a hyper late game carry who needs exorbitant amounts of farm. Good luck getting out of that MMR 🤣
@Doflaminguard
Жыл бұрын
PA without deso cant kill fast and will just feed.
@xIcarus227
Жыл бұрын
@@Doflaminguard who said anything about PA without deso? and it's not just deso that gives damage, there's also nullifier which can replace it if you need the purge.
@Doflaminguard
Жыл бұрын
@@xIcarus227 lol, I was supplementing your claim for your team wanting to team fight with PA 14 minutes.
lastly, i honestly don't know how you keep the mindset you have throughout entire game... that's probably the most mind boggling aspect of this entire video... i couldn't do this so big props to you for having this type of personality, teaching, showing, and doing all in one. without talking outright shit - just "pointing out little things" lol. man... i hope you aren't bottling it all in and one day you blow up. stay chill homeslice, never seen you before or this channel but glad i caught it cuz i needed this very, VERY laid back energy from you. even though i don't play this game since the days of wc3 RoC and a little in TFT when my 2s partner wasn't online for ladder or i couldn't find a match in 1v1 ladder. actually met one of my ex gfs through playing dota on TFT way back in 2006 and she was amazing. only downside was the distance. she was such a chill chick and it was funny as hell cuz back then, it was hard to find females that gamed cuz you already know what would happen (they'd either be swarmed by dudes vying for attention or shittalked to) or no one would believe them cuz whenever someone said they were a female, most of the time it was to get carried on the ladder. i remember in ventrilo even i talked shit saying "nah no way, i don't believe you til i hear it and even then it could be a voice changer." it was through sharing pics/phone #'s to text and eventually call and then meeting up. we went to a few shows at a big venue that no longer exists T_T RIP Tremont Music Hall
Finally another offlane vidéo. Was waiting for it for so long. Thanks so much bsj.
@emmanuelwilliamquinton9152
Жыл бұрын
And a hard game even better
@jom_and_terry
Жыл бұрын
Offlane role is so ignored when it comes to educational dota videos. Only speeed from gameleap makes them consistenly
Im 9.4k and still watch this guy👍
Meteor hammer is the meta now
that was very good realtime thoughts and gameplay. Very educational
Notice that in the other games BSJ was very focused on just playing, and not coaching his team how to play. He would just do his role and show that if he did it well enough then he wins even if his 3k teammates are playing like 3k players etc. This game it was completely different. He kept telling his team when not to fight. He told DK what item to go for. Makes me think that in order to win these higher MMR games even BSJ needs to coach his team to play better than they normally would in order to win. At 24:30 for example he breaks his own rule by telling dawn how to play their hero which is in no relation to how BSJ is playing his hero. I say this not to flame BSJ, BSJ is awesome, just pointing out how difficult it is to not do these things!
Yeah we need more video like this
Thank you BSJ for everything.
great video. One thing I struggle with in low MMR is lanes like this where you do not want to trad with carry (ursa, slark). How do you avoid interacting but then also not just letting them free farm?I dont play a lot of offlane but this is a concept i struggle with at low mmr
@OnlyCi
Жыл бұрын
I think he doesn't mean to not letting them farm, he just let them farm. His team are weaker early game, chances are he has better late game line up with the same networth.
@oneshotki11
Жыл бұрын
Try to swap lanes when it hits a point where he no longer feels comfortable in the lane. This game he let Mirana take lane because Ursa cant really kill her, and he choose to shove mid.
@lxrd5238
Жыл бұрын
If your hero has the ability to clear waves behind tower and get out safely do it you make the lane draw instead of losing it completely
@Azzurite
Жыл бұрын
Drag the wave
@Zukuarinokushi
Жыл бұрын
Creep aggro. You see it perfectly in this video, it takes him half a wave before the lane is in front of his tower, and he keeps it there. It's really hard for ursa to try to trade with you if you can simply walk 200 range and be in your own tower range. Get rid of the mindset "not letting him free farm". If you know you're in a bad matchup, you've already concluded you can't stop him, so trying anyway is just the first step to failure.
Hi BSJ. Which item would you have gone instead of Meteor Hammer if you didnt win the lane?
@-ne0nlightning
Жыл бұрын
my guess is just focus on getting radiance so the timing isn't completely ruined by a bad start. pretty sure he was aiming to power spike with dk blink so if he went meteor from a bad lane he wouldn't have been able to
@Doflaminguard
Жыл бұрын
Boots into radiance.
now we need 10 and 11k players to play with and against bsj
4:58 how do you do this agro trick?
Should have picked a better meta hero like the DP you went in a previous game. Hard to smurf with a limited hero like Abaddon. In the end, probably doesn't matter due to the MMR difference though.
Down here in the 500 trenches, if I told my mid/carry to buy blink they would've cursed me out then grief farm the rest of the game.
how are your creep healthbars outlined??????????? i dont have those...
Nice funny.. and funny how the dk thought that he was so incredibly good all game.
great stuff would love to see some more offlane work
just wondering...why u didnt go blademail in this game ?
Watching a game with the old map is good.😊
What should the enemy have done to close this out
what does he mean by "if you get stuck playing in role queue you're probably lackluster" ?
why in the lobby we cant see their ranks? can explain this to me thanks
would be nice to see the post game overview
How would you play as Ursa in this game to win when you are ahead? Thanks for the content
@elek323
Жыл бұрын
if you're the ursa and your team doesn't stay around him. Ursa needs to build to 100% kill the target he jumps (nulli, abyss etc) and maybe BoTs to stay with his strongest teammates and not let them bleed/feed kills. When DK bought back that was a huge opening to win the game. All they needed to do was jump DK or Clinkz again. Around 32 mins there was a clear micommunication on storm/dp jump when their rubick tp'd home to deal with split. Ursa basically threw here. He was too passive and wasn't aware of how strong his team was/didn't need rubick to win the fight. If ursa was with storm on the clinkz catch, and killed DK; Radiant had no mirana or dawn ult and most likely would've badly lost that fight. Radiant had no glyph so they'd have gotten atleast rax and top t2. 34 mins: Ursa was trying to finally make a play without his team/when Storm was down = couldn't even finish off DK. 35 mins: say you're the ursa and you still fucked up that badly. Now is the time to use your teammates as bait. His team is slowly losing their advantage, he needs to kill someone asap, bait the enemies into a fight outside of their base then jump the priority target/Clinkz. Instead he shows at the top t2 giving radiant space to farm/split. He needed to be with storm and just kill whoever storm sees/jumps on. Instead you see him try to jump the aba first instead of letting storm catch = big mistake. 38 mins: Ursa tries to frontline instead of letting dp bait or storm jump. Throws the fight and gives enemy more space like a big clown. 40 min fight: Ursa is just.. not with dp or storm, another thrown fight. Ursa's team finally wins a fight when Ursa is playing with his team and doesn't go in first. tl;dr: Ursa threw, needed to not go in first/use team as a bait, jump the right targets, get pickoffs and close the game. Poor awareness and bad decisions in the late game like that is a sign they're not an amazing carry player yet or just really tilted. A good carry player would've played sooo many late game matches out similar to that by now and have a good understanding on what to have been doing that this was pretty much a snoozefest
@rastafari2k3
Жыл бұрын
@@elek323 cmon he didn't threw. it was a team effort on dire's side. they didn't cut off the waves at all on any hero. they kept tping back to base on heroes and got punished because they played vs a 9k mmr player. they also just sat in a group not doing anything, way too much
@chriscarlson8974
Жыл бұрын
@@elek323 what rank are u
@jen_esse
Жыл бұрын
like BSJ said, Dire should have an earlier Rosh pressure rather than forcing towers
Eish! the ceiling is high, man. I have like 6000 hours logged and I'm really good at the the things that I do. Yet, at this level people are doing things I've yet to attempt. Different game entirely.
watching other servers seems so polite. Had it been SEAS I was waiting for blame time and pointing out not to steal farm and all with typical "GG" by own team mates.
Ya all noted, but what do I do when my 4 picks PL?
What this average MMR actually means here? Is that four 5k players + 10k BSJ? Or is it average 5.9k players except BSJ?
Thank you Ramsey Bolton
Ever tried using camera grip?
How do you know the average mmr of each team?
How to check the team AGV MMR ?
Should have spent at least 1 point in coil just to not let rubick steal the shield, which is hard counter to all radiance heroes
31:34 see what i mean? damn took near 40min to get ONE awesome fight. that's just brutal man. idk how you've played for this long and willing to keep playing. i know dota2 brings in probably more in tournaments than any other game in terms of esports, especially since sc2 shut down an entire server and TONS of tournaments. seems the gaming career path is coming to an end. which breaks my heart cuz 1) i was too early to get into it at its peak, no support from family = not happening here. 2) now its too late in life and its falling off when its the same half dozen or so winning everything
I now understand why I have good winrate with lycan...cause I split push so hard.
Lol that fight at 24 minutes. "B"-bsj Literally everyone suicides
must've been annoying playing against this abbadon ahahha
such an intelligent game of dota
Ever since I watched fart studio get demolished in dpc I take ur advice w a grain a salt
Discord link is expired:/
I dont understand how he does the agro trick, can anyone explain?
How did it drop a trickster cloak there? 30:32 I've never seen that before.
so the difference between 6k and 9k is way smaller than the same difference between 2k and 5k, cuz a 5k player in 2k avg would solo the game
bout time we see this build getting light been on this shit
i feel greaves is way better for abba you can keep them busy fighting and gives so much space for your carry and go agha for sustain team fight
calling space after feeding mid is 6k for sure
can u analyze why speeed team lose match yesterday?
Is there a button in dota to have your manta illusions attack automatically or something?
@emmanuelwilliamquinton9152
Жыл бұрын
It's a setting, auto attack for non hero unit set as always
@kjyu
Жыл бұрын
in one of the vids he explained he uses a bind to change autoattack state depending on the state of the game, i use it to since then
This is a helpful guide for us.
that DK hurts my eyes so much.
blink on ult was so fun :))
man... you play really good. impressive. wp
The reasoning behind your hero choice was a GEM.
I opened video, skipped ahead to a random spot (7:10), watched until 8:16, read title, laughed, closed video.
How can you smurf in 6k, how many k do u have?
Honestly if you did that in pub, like how you went to mid and start taking dk’s farm, you be reported or ur mid would just grief on you
Die, Spawn, tp mid and dies again immediately. "I call that space!"
thought this was a stickon blademail game for you tbh
Fart team supporter here!
Without commentary, BSJ would be reported for griefing mid and queuing wrong role.
ok last comment for real, i doubt i'll get a reply on any of them but this is one i do prefer to have a reply: how high is 6k MMR exactly? can you or anyone who sees this give me a quick run down of the rankings/divisions/MMR brackets? so i have an understanding of what it means to be in 6k and still be "smurfing" but you say they're higher than you? typically in my day, when you smurfed, it was on a new acct with 0 "mmr" or on wc3, it was AMM then "ELL" AMM= automated match making reworked t ELL = estimated ladder level (which spawned ladder abuse and ruined ladder for legit players like myself... meaning if you won X amount of games without losing, your "ELL" was too high to match anyone else, turning into hours upon hours long que times) this is the base of where "ELO" came from and idk what ELO stands for... except rating/mmr.
Ethical smurfing FTW
what does exo mean?
its jarring how the gap of these pro players are to a common player.
why the name is all 5??
so many times not using meteor, why?
does the mmr average include bsj mmr, and if not what is bsjs mmr ?
@zanido9073
Жыл бұрын
does not, he's 10k
@Pikachu-hp2sr
Жыл бұрын
@@zanido9073 9150 yesterday
@21leowheeler
Жыл бұрын
@@zanido9073 So adjusted for mmr he should be 6700 for the game to be fair and he actually has a 3k mmr difference on these guys ?
@Azzurite
Жыл бұрын
@@21leowheeler the point of these games is to show how to play to rank up, i.e. he's acting as if he was currently 6k trying to get to 9k - "this is what you'd need to do"
are their names hidden?
why does he keep ulting at full hp
its not the same without que ing pub but he prbbly gets banned for it cuz some karen
offlane playing like safelane
bsj how many games you lose to get this one?
Why all usernames are 5?
How do you get creeps to aggro without opposing hero in range “aggro trick”?
@alpaquito
4 күн бұрын
Click another visible hero on the map on another lane.
All hail Gremlo God
pretty disappointing that even if I grind up to 6k I am still gonna get matched with headless chickens who don't read chat.
@emmanuelwilliamquinton9152
Жыл бұрын
I disagree at that point player are not headless chicken anymore. They play very coordinated, and make limited mistakes. It's not your 1/2k games.
@Shefetoful
Жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelwilliamquinton9152 then what was the game BSJ just played in? They were 5.9k average team mates.
@fealeaf1
Жыл бұрын
Go SEA.. they're all abou chat.. 😂 but if you already 6k, well, many people'll play calmly.
@RandomPerson-vd3ju
Жыл бұрын
@@fealeaf1 hmmm calmly you say? When their mmr grows their ego grows aswell
@fealeaf1
Жыл бұрын
@@RandomPerson-vd3ju well.. calmly enough to just destroy their item and stay at the fountain.. 🤣
why didn't you turn radiance off at 20:20
Can someone explain why BSJ didnt buy Halberd? I think it would be good counter for ursa
@elek323
Жыл бұрын
he built to kill / secure pickoffs. Halberd stalls/control, but doesn't enable pickoff/gank style as well as a hex did late game. Mid-game was playing to force tps/dodging enemy movements to create space for his team / open enemy up to bad fights.
@m1ke896
Жыл бұрын
It's definitely a nice item to have against ursa, but looking at the way the early-mid game went, BSJ was talking that it was gonna be impossible to fight the enemy team, so that's the reason he went for radiance+manta so he could split push and avoid teamfights and wait for an opening, and that opening was when they got the ursa at min 38 (in-game clock), 31 (in youtube video).
@Doflaminguard
Жыл бұрын
Halberd against ursa is so bad. Ulti will basically nullify it or BKB.
@m1ke896
Жыл бұрын
@@Doflaminguard Halberd's disarm can't be dispelled. And yeah, you can use BKB before going in
@Doflaminguard
Жыл бұрын
@@m1ke896 Ursa ulti will reduce Halberd duration to around 2 seconds instead of 5.
Good educational content, I suggest you unbind your voice chat hotkey to avoid accidentally using voice comms
After saying how he won the lane, got killed by ursa top, then tp mid and straight up die again hitting storm under tower ahhaahhaha big brain plays
Wish you'd carry clarities 😛
i cant join to discord
1. Picks shit hero 2. DK did not realize he is our initiator.
Bsj is the best dota content creator
Everyone try to lane like this while explaining that to camera.